July 09 Quitters

[bearattack]

ust25yrdonor: I'm sorry that you were having a shitty day. I hope today is better.

Roy: I was lying. My MIL is tolerable only if I am in a coma. ;)

Grizz: I've never had Hooch (unless you're talking about corn-based liquor). But Smokey Mountain is OK. I was doing the natural flavor, but I bought every can that Wal-Mart had. I then had to buy every can of wintergreen they had. The wintergreen reminds me of this stuff I dipped when I was 13...Hawken. Heavy on the molasses. Kinda tasty, actually.

Try Wal-Mart. If not, I'd bet you can order some online.

Hawken w the musket on the tin...
Remember I sweet cotton candy taste...

The fake shit isn't my gig, I can just tell that will set off a monster kodiakatack...

Fuk u kodiak

[DeanTheCoot]

ust25yrdonor: I'm sorry that you were having a shitty day. I hope today is better.

Roy: I was lying. My MIL is tolerable only if I am in a coma. ;)

Grizz: I've never had Hooch (unless you're talking about corn-based liquor). But Smokey Mountain is OK. I was doing the natural flavor, but I bought every can that Wal-Mart had. I then had to buy every can of wintergreen they had. The wintergreen reminds me of this stuff I dipped when I was 13...Hawken. Heavy on the molasses. Kinda tasty, actually.

Try Wal-Mart. If not, I'd bet you can order some online.

[ust25yrdonor]

I want to share a simple observation with you guys: I've been doing the Smokey Mountain herbal chew. It's a good distraction. But more so, it has helped me realize that, except for the nicotine, it's no different than dip. Yeah, it's herbs vs. tobacco, but so what? Herbs and tobacco are both just chopped-up leafy shit.

THE difference, and the ONLY difference, is the nicotine.

You may say to yourself, "Dean you silly cunt, I KNOW nicotine is the difference." But hear me out: What is, or has ever been, appealing about nicotine?

Ask yourself why you started dipping in the first place. I don't know about the rest of you, but nicotine's effects never mattered to me...probably never even affected me at all, except to hook me. I didn't dip to get high. I dipped, at first, for stupid reasons: peer pressure, to seem older, because other fishermen did it, blah blah blah.

But even those reasons are long gone. Today, it's a habit. And what I'm saying is that, other than the nicotine, Smokey Mountain is a DIRECT replacement for the habit. It makes perfectly good spit and tastes shitty and gets stuck in my teeth and makes my breath smell like dog asshole. Success! Habit replaced....if I could just get around the nicotine.

Honestly, the drug is so, so, so strong. It gives you NOTHING. No buzz. No energy. No creativity. No nothing. And still it's strong enough for me to repeatedly think about caving; to think that dip is more important than living past age 40; to think that I'll cave today and quit again tomorrow.

But fuck that. I'm pretty sure there is only one reason I am going to quit and stay quit: I'm pissed off at the drug. I'm pissed off that it gives me nothing. Shit, at least alcohol made my mother-in-law tolerable.

I guess this is my introduction. Thanks for listening.

probably the best intro i've read in my 30 days here.

much needed on the worst day i've had since week 1.

thanks man

[RoyJester]

Shit, at least alcohol made my mother-in-law tolerable.

You lucky bastard, if I drank enough to make my MIL tolerable, my wife would be pissed at me for passing the fuck out.

[RIPgrizzly]

Hey cunt is that smokey mountain stuff any better than hooch? I don't know where to find smokey mountain.

Congrats on staying quit, you're a good man for it.

[DeanTheCoot]

I want to share a simple observation with you guys: I've been doing the Smokey Mountain herbal chew. It's a good distraction. But more so, it has helped me realize that, except for the nicotine, it's no different than dip. Yeah, it's herbs vs. tobacco, but so what? Herbs and tobacco are both just chopped-up leafy shit.

THE difference, and the ONLY difference, is the nicotine.

You may say to yourself, "Dean you silly cunt, I KNOW nicotine is the difference." But hear me out: What is, or has ever been, appealing about nicotine?

Ask yourself why you started dipping in the first place. I don't know about the rest of you, but nicotine's effects never mattered to me...probably never even affected me at all, except to hook me. I didn't dip to get high. I dipped, at first, for stupid reasons: peer pressure, to seem older, because other fishermen did it, blah blah blah.

But even those reasons are long gone. Today, it's a habit. And what I'm saying is that, other than the nicotine, Smokey Mountain is a DIRECT replacement for the habit. It makes perfectly good spit and tastes shitty and gets stuck in my teeth and makes my breath smell like dog asshole. Success! Habit replaced....if I could just get around the nicotine.

Honestly, the drug is so, so, so strong. It gives you NOTHING. No buzz. No energy. No creativity. No nothing. And still it's strong enough for me to repeatedly think about caving; to think that dip is more important than living past age 40; to think that I'll cave today and quit again tomorrow.

But fuck that. I'm pretty sure there is only one reason I am going to quit and stay quit: I'm pissed off at the drug. I'm pissed off that it gives me nothing. Shit, at least alcohol made my mother-in-law tolerable.

I guess this is my introduction. Thanks for listening.

[ScooterScum]

I figure "Introductions" is as good a place as any for this message....since us July 09ers are all getting introduced.

If any of you brothers want to stay the course and nail this fucking addiction, I'm around. I need to figure out how to stay quit...this site and you guys might be the difference. I hope that's true.

SixSix210
RIP Grizzly
etc
etc

Let's use each other. And I won't even get all mad about it and call you in the middle of the night and accuse you of being a player and of fucking my friends and shit. But I would, you know? I would fuck your friends, I guess.

I am withdrawing B.A.D. Color Me BADD. Color Me TWEAKED in the brains.

Nevermind. I'm done. Hope to hear from you guys.

That's great but this needs to be posted over in your quit group, not in introductions.

[DeanTheCoot]

I figure "Introductions" is as good a place as any for this message....since us July 09ers are all getting introduced.

If any of you brothers want to stay the course and nail this fucking addiction, I'm around. I need to figure out how to stay quit...this site and you guys might be the difference. I hope that's true.

SixSix210
RIP Grizzly
etc
etc

Let's use each other. And I won't even get all mad about it and call you in the middle of the night and accuse you of being a player and of fucking my friends and shit. But I would, you know? I would fuck your friends, I guess.

I am withdrawing B.A.D. Color Me BADD. Color Me TWEAKED in the brains.

Nevermind. I'm done. Hope to hear from you guys.

[mgski]

For those of us who have been on the can for 15+ years, I suppose it does come down to quitting or dying. I don't feel like dying, so quitting is my only option.

A long time ago, I told myself that it would suck to be in my 30s, still dipping, dying of cancer. Well, now I'm in my 30s. I don't have cancer, and I am not dying. That's good. I owe it to whoever or whatever to stop pushing my fucking luck. I need to get ahead of this before it kills me.

And you know what I try to keep in mind? As depressing as it is to think of a world without tobacco (and by God...the sense of loss I get when trying to quit is vicious), it's much more depressing to think about saying goodbye to my one-year-old.

Anyway, I run the risk of blabbing because this is the first time I have tried to quit in more than three years, and this is day three for me. (I spent day one on the patch, but I went pure nicotine-free yesterday.) Needless to say, I barely know where I am right now. I am plowed with withdrawal. I could very easily verbally assault and bring to tears anyone who comes near me, and afterward demolish this office building with my bare hands and teeth. I think I WOULD like to do that, actually.

Yeah that says it all- you got it right Dean. Feels like i lost a friend- although I know it wasnt really a friend.

Keep thinking- losing nothing!

Was in a quicky store today SKLLCM staring at me- 2 for 5.77- damn good deal

But, i walked away. WHO IS YOUR DADDY BITCH?

That felt good.

[nkt]

Very friendly and helpful. I appreciate it. And I'll figure out roll-call soon.

This is only day two for me? It's a nicotine-free measurement? Not that it matters, but I have to say: patch or no patch, a day without dip should count for something. For sure. Like, maybe a quarter-day? Or fifteen minutes?

Yes. It is settled. I am on day two plus seven minutes.

This is something that comes up quite often...

Here's my opinion (for what it's worth).

If you're using NRT as prescribed then feel free to post roll.

If you're using NRT as a crave killer then you're still hooked and you should post a day 1.

The idea here is to be nicotine free cause that's the bitch that we're fighting against. That said, I have no problem with day 2 + 7 minutes ;)

I did one day of NRC, simply because I know that 500 days of NRC doesn't make day one of no nicotine any goddamn better. So why put it off?

Actually, I keep trying to write all sorts of things, but they keep getting twisted. So, I might as well just stop trying to make sense.

Good decision Dean! My wife bought me a box of nic gum when I announced I was going to quit. After reading about it, I realized it was the nicotene that I needed to quit and by doing gum it was just going to prolong my quit. I nver used the stuff and survived, you can do it too!!!!

I went through 12 days on the patch before stopping completely and posting day-1. Looking back on it, I think the NRT made it worse. Those 12 days were just as bad as the first four days off of nicotine; I had withdrawal symptoms the whole time.

[ScooterScum]

Very friendly and helpful. I appreciate it. And I'll figure out roll-call soon.

This is only day two for me? It's a nicotine-free measurement? Not that it matters, but I have to say: patch or no patch, a day without dip should count for something. For sure. Like, maybe a quarter-day? Or fifteen minutes?

Yes. It is settled. I am on day two plus seven minutes.

This is something that comes up quite often...

Here's my opinion (for what it's worth).

If you're using NRT as prescribed then feel free to post roll.

If you're using NRT as a crave killer then you're still hooked and you should post a day 1.

The idea here is to be nicotine free cause that's the bitch that we're fighting against. That said, I have no problem with day 2 + 7 minutes ;)

I did one day of NRC, simply because I know that 500 days of NRC doesn't make day one of no nicotine any goddamn better. So why put it off?

Actually, I keep trying to write all sorts of things, but they keep getting twisted. So, I might as well just stop trying to make sense.

Good decision Dean! My wife bought me a box of nic gum when I announced I was going to quit. After reading about it, I realized it was the nicotene that I needed to quit and by doing gum it was just going to prolong my quit. I nver used the stuff and survived, you can do it too!!!!

[DeanTheCoot]

Very friendly and helpful. I appreciate it. And I'll figure out roll-call soon.

This is only day two for me? It's a nicotine-free measurement? Not that it matters, but I have to say: patch or no patch, a day without dip should count for something. For sure. Like, maybe a quarter-day? Or fifteen minutes?

Yes. It is settled. I am on day two plus seven minutes.

This is something that comes up quite often...

Here's my opinion (for what it's worth).

If you're using NRT as prescribed then feel free to post roll.

If you're using NRT as a crave killer then you're still hooked and you should post a day 1.

The idea here is to be nicotine free cause that's the bitch that we're fighting against. That said, I have no problem with day 2 + 7 minutes ;)

I did one day of NRC, simply because I know that 500 days of NRC doesn't make day one of no nicotine any goddamn better. So why put it off?

Actually, I keep trying to write all sorts of things, but they keep getting twisted. So, I might as well just stop trying to make sense.

[chewie]

Very friendly and helpful. I appreciate it. And I'll figure out roll-call soon.

This is only day two for me? It's a nicotine-free measurement? Not that it matters, but I have to say: patch or no patch, a day without dip should count for something. For sure. Like, maybe a quarter-day? Or fifteen minutes?

Yes. It is settled. I am on day two plus seven minutes.

This is something that comes up quite often...

Here's my opinion (for what it's worth).

If you're using NRT as prescribed then feel free to post roll.

If you're using NRT as a crave killer then you're still hooked and you should post a day 1.

The idea here is to be nicotine free cause that's the bitch that we're fighting against. That said, I have no problem with day 2 + 7 minutes ;)

[DeanTheCoot]

For those of us who have been on the can for 15+ years, I suppose it does come down to quitting or dying. I don't feel like dying, so quitting is my only option.

A long time ago, I told myself that it would suck to be in my 30s, still dipping, dying of cancer. Well, now I'm in my 30s. I don't have cancer, and I am not dying. That's good. I owe it to whoever or whatever to stop pushing my fucking luck. I need to get ahead of this before it kills me.

And you know what I try to keep in mind? As depressing as it is to think of a world without tobacco (and by God...the sense of loss I get when trying to quit is vicious), it's much more depressing to think about saying goodbye to my one-year-old.

Anyway, I run the risk of blabbing because this is the first time I have tried to quit in more than three years, and this is day three for me. (I spent day one on the patch, but I went pure nicotine-free yesterday.) Needless to say, I barely know where I am right now. I am plowed with withdrawal. I could very easily verbally assault and bring to tears anyone who comes near me, and afterward demolish this office building with my bare hands and teeth. I think I WOULD like to do that, actually.

Yep. That's pretty much it. Quit or die.

I'm day 4. Welcome to hell. Of course you already know that.

Don't worry about blabbing. Blab all you fucking want. These guys don't care. Go to the chat room too. Blab there. Curse, scream, yell. Hell I threatened to burn down an orphanage this morning for a fucking chew.

My brother sent me this email this morning when I told him I had survived another day:

It would suck for you to give up now...
Want me to call you a pansy ass for the rest of your life? Or would you rather be able to annoy the hell out of me by saying shit like, "you know you really should quit that, look at what I did"....

Yeah. I think I'll choose to annoy the shit out of my brother (who smokes like a train).

My father died from prostate cancer when he was 57.

My mother died from breast cancer when she was 62.

I'm 44 and I been chewing for over 20 years. You do the math...

Welcome Dean!!!!


Here are some links that may help...

Your quit group is July 09... here ....

index.php?showtopic=2251

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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.

index.php?showtopic=120

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A how to get started by Remy:

index.php?showtopic=1360

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How to post roll.

index.php?showtopic=50

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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, pat yourself on the back, and have a beer cause you will not be dipping today.

If you need anything else, give me a shout

Very friendly and helpful. I appreciate it. And I'll figure out roll-call soon.

This is only day two for me? It's a nicotine-free measurement? Not that it matters, but I have to say: patch or no patch, a day without dip should count for something. For sure. Like, maybe a quarter-day? Or fifteen minutes?

Yes. It is settled. I am on day two plus seven minutes.

[ScooterScum]

For those of us who have been on the can for 15+ years, I suppose it does come down to quitting or dying. I don't feel like dying, so quitting is my only option.

A long time ago, I told myself that it would suck to be in my 30s, still dipping, dying of cancer. Well, now I'm in my 30s. I don't have cancer, and I am not dying. That's good. I owe it to whoever or whatever to stop pushing my fucking luck. I need to get ahead of this before it kills me.

And you know what I try to keep in mind? As depressing as it is to think of a world without tobacco (and by God...the sense of loss I get when trying to quit is vicious), it's much more depressing to think about saying goodbye to my one-year-old.

Anyway, I run the risk of blabbing because this is the first time I have tried to quit in more than three years, and this is day three for me. (I spent day one on the patch, but I went pure nicotine-free yesterday.) Needless to say, I barely know where I am right now. I am plowed with withdrawal. I could very easily verbally assault and bring to tears anyone who comes near me, and afterward demolish this office building with my bare hands and teeth. I think I WOULD like to do that, actually.

Yep. That's pretty much it. Quit or die.

I'm day 4. Welcome to hell. Of course you already know that.

Don't worry about blabbing. Blab all you fucking want. These guys don't care. Go to the chat room too. Blab there. Curse, scream, yell. Hell I threatened to burn down an orphanage this morning for a fucking chew.

My brother sent me this email this morning when I told him I had survived another day:

It would suck for you to give up now...
Want me to call you a pansy ass for the rest of your life? Or would you rather be able to annoy the hell out of me by saying shit like, "you know you really should quit that, look at what I did"....

Yeah. I think I'll choose to annoy the shit out of my brother (who smokes like a train).

My father died from prostate cancer when he was 57.

My mother died from breast cancer when she was 62.

I'm 44 and I been chewing for over 20 years. You do the math...

Welcome Dean!!!!


Here are some links that may help...

Your quit group is July 09... here ....

index.php?showtopic=2251

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.

index.php?showtopic=120

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

A how to get started by Remy:

index.php?showtopic=1360

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=+

How to post roll.

index.php?showtopic=50

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, pat yourself on the back, and have a beer cause you will not be dipping today.

If you need anything else, give me a shout