Quitting - Subtle Insanity

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

I'm still around. Just haven't posted roll. Might look into it later.

RE: your last post. This was as far as I got. The rest of what you wrote became completely irrelevant after reading this. Until you do this, you're not committed. This is your promise, your word that you won't use any nicotine in any form for that day.

Lets cut to the chase...this is an internet support group. We're not sitting in some legion hall or facility room in a church saying, "Hi my name is so and so and I'm a nicotine addict." Without your roll post (i.e. your promise) then your quit has nothing to stand on. Once you post roll, and do this every day, then you'll begin to understand what this site can offer you. But until you post roll, I got nothin left to offer you. I'll tell you the honest truth however, a half-ass statement like "might look into it" has failure written all over it. Prove me wrong; I'll have no shame in putting my foot in my mouth if it means someone successfully quits. For now, I'll keep my feet on the ground until you show me otherwise.

Redtail,
Listen to Steakbomb. He's right and you're wrong. Posting roll isn't something to look into later. It is the fundamental price of admission to this club. Either you're in and post roll, or you're out and stop wasting our time.
ZC.

Most of us tried everything to quit. I promised I'd quit when it stopped raining. When it wasn't so hot. When I finished this project or that one. When I run out. After I buy just 5 more cans. Maybe 10.

Dude dip has 3x more nicotine than a pack of smokes. Bad addictive - like heroin. We only know of one thing that works and that is posting roll. It works. Join us. Win. Do it for you.

Listen to these guys. With you not being on roll with us, we cannot commit to helping you. Did you come here for help?

[worktowin]

I'm still around. Just haven't posted roll. Might look into it later.

RE: your last post. This was as far as I got. The rest of what you wrote became completely irrelevant after reading this. Until you do this, you're not committed. This is your promise, your word that you won't use any nicotine in any form for that day.

Lets cut to the chase...this is an internet support group. We're not sitting in some legion hall or facility room in a church saying, "Hi my name is so and so and I'm a nicotine addict." Without your roll post (i.e. your promise) then your quit has nothing to stand on. Once you post roll, and do this every day, then you'll begin to understand what this site can offer you. But until you post roll, I got nothin left to offer you. I'll tell you the honest truth however, a half-ass statement like "might look into it" has failure written all over it. Prove me wrong; I'll have no shame in putting my foot in my mouth if it means someone successfully quits. For now, I'll keep my feet on the ground until you show me otherwise.

Redtail,
Listen to Steakbomb. He's right and you're wrong. Posting roll isn't something to look into later. It is the fundamental price of admission to this club. Either you're in and post roll, or you're out and stop wasting our time.
ZC.

Most of us tried everything to quit. I promised I'd quit when it stopped raining. When it wasn't so hot. When I finished this project or that one. When I run out. After I buy just 5 more cans. Maybe 10.

Dude dip has 3x more nicotine than a pack of smokes. Bad addictive - like heroin. We only know of one thing that works and that is posting roll. It works. Join us. Win. Do it for you.

[ZillahCowboy]

I'm still around. Just haven't posted roll. Might look into it later.

RE: your last post. This was as far as I got. The rest of what you wrote became completely irrelevant after reading this. Until you do this, you're not committed. This is your promise, your word that you won't use any nicotine in any form for that day.

Lets cut to the chase...this is an internet support group. We're not sitting in some legion hall or facility room in a church saying, "Hi my name is so and so and I'm a nicotine addict." Without your roll post (i.e. your promise) then your quit has nothing to stand on. Once you post roll, and do this every day, then you'll begin to understand what this site can offer you. But until you post roll, I got nothin left to offer you. I'll tell you the honest truth however, a half-ass statement like "might look into it" has failure written all over it. Prove me wrong; I'll have no shame in putting my foot in my mouth if it means someone successfully quits. For now, I'll keep my feet on the ground until you show me otherwise.

Redtail,
Listen to Steakbomb. He's right and you're wrong. Posting roll isn't something to look into later. It is the fundamental price of admission to this club. Either you're in and post roll, or you're out and stop wasting our time.
ZC.

[Steakbomb18]

I'm still around. Just haven't posted roll. Might look into it later.

RE: your last post. This was as far as I got. The rest of what you wrote became completely irrelevant after reading this. Until you do this, you're not committed. This is your promise, your word that you won't use any nicotine in any form for that day.

Lets cut to the chase...this is an internet support group. We're not sitting in some legion hall or facility room in a church saying, "Hi my name is so and so and I'm a nicotine addict." Without your roll post (i.e. your promise) then your quit has nothing to stand on. Once you post roll, and do this every day, then you'll begin to understand what this site can offer you. But until you post roll, I got nothin left to offer you. I'll tell you the honest truth however, a half-ass statement like "might look into it" has failure written all over it. Prove me wrong; I'll have no shame in putting my foot in my mouth if it means someone successfully quits. For now, I'll keep my feet on the ground until you show me otherwise.

[jabr]

I'm still around. Just haven't posted roll. Might look into it later. The last few days hasn't been too bad compared to other times I've quit, but today for some reason the jones is starting in on me a little more than normal. Sleeping has been terrible. Usually it's taken about a week for that to come back to some normalcy so see what happens this time.

I do exercise typically fairly regularly. I do need to get to the gym here soon, like today. Holidays and wisdom teeth yanking have thrown things off. Exercise does seem to help take the edge off and clear the thinking.

I've also been considering making a list of reasons why staying quit is a good thing as reminders when I might need them. Putting some notes in my phone when I think of them.

Been busy the last couple days with different stuff, but need to get my head back into the game. It's sneaky shit that will come back around again if I let it. Always does.

Thanks guys for the comments and help.

I was on day 25 when I found KTC. I was really out of steam at that point. Posting roll really energized it for me. As did reading all the content here.

The things you've listed are positive. They're good components of a strong quit. Joining the group and posting roll adds accountability to it. By posting roll, you're promising 20K+ people that you will NOT dip today. No matter what. You've got 20K+ virtual brothers and sisters that need you to keep your promise as badly as you need them to keep their's.

[RedTail8]

I'm still around. Just haven't posted roll. Might look into it later. The last few days hasn't been too bad compared to other times I've quit, but today for some reason the jones is starting in on me a little more than normal. Sleeping has been terrible. Usually it's taken about a week for that to come back to some normalcy so see what happens this time.

I do exercise typically fairly regularly. I do need to get to the gym here soon, like today. Holidays and wisdom teeth yanking have thrown things off. Exercise does seem to help take the edge off and clear the thinking.

I've also been considering making a list of reasons why staying quit is a good thing as reminders when I might need them. Putting some notes in my phone when I think of them.

Been busy the last couple days with different stuff, but need to get my head back into the game. It's sneaky shit that will come back around again if I let it. Always does.

Thanks guys for the comments and help.

[jabr]

I see RedTail wasn't ready.

[Thumblewort]

Are you gonna post roll or be a one and done? Quitters post roll daily here.

[Stat]

Welcome. My signature block should have links to videos demonstrating how to post roll. Posting roll every day is the first step to being part of the quit community here.

I am curious: do you exercise? You may need to get into exercising, or exercise more, in order to get periods of clarity. When I was in my early days of my quit, I noticed that I felt pretty good for a few hours after a good exercise session.

[Its_Got2Happen]

Welcome Marc

If you want to quit, you have come to the right place. Withdrawal is a bitch. But it will not kill you AND it is only temporary.

You can do this, we can help. Seize the moment. The desire to quit can be fleeting. A couple days go by, gums heal up, and before you know it you are back to the grind. Wake up and your 47. Don't wait until you get the cancer diagnosis. 2 cans/day? Grizzly wintergreen? Yep, I know that well. That was me, 723 days ago.

Read all that you can on the site. Homework for the day...... find out what it means to post roll, and do it. It will save your life.

[jabr]

Hi All - my name is Marc and I'm addicted to nicotine. Always have been. Smoked from 13 to 23 then dipped from 27 until now almost 37. Don't do much half way and know I've probably already damaged my body in ways I can never fix. Haven't found anything yet, and hope to god I don't. But know if I keep going the way I'm going I'm going to die early. Not really any other way to say it. And I don't want to. I'm enjoying lift too much too check-out young.

I took my last dip just over a day ago now. I didn't plan it much as my 'last dip'. I got my wisdom teeth out yesterday morning and had my last dip about 4am just before I went to bed. I woke up around 9am and didn't think I should dip because it could cause problems with the anethesia they were going to do for me. Now I'm not supposed to chew for 5-7 days after getting my teeth pulled too. They said I can chew nicotine gum, but I would like to quit and detox off nicotine. I've played with gum quitting before and had some limited success up to 4 months. I've always quit for at least a few months here and there cold turkey. Then other shorter periods too.

I really would just like to be done with it. I chew in my office and would rather not. I don't see it as very professional having a big old dip in, and a spitter cup sitting on my desk. I chew about 2 tins a days Grizzly Wide Cut Wintergreen or Long Cutt Wintergreen.

When I've quit before feeling better physically was fantastic. Just overall felt better. I've struggled with depression quitting before though. Pretty severe. I've been on Wellbutrin SR for about a year now. First to help with the cravings, but mostly to help with the side affects of quitting. I might have always medicated depression with nicotine. But I need to find another way now. I have to. Otherwise depression will kill me with nicotine/chew if I don't quit.

We all go when we go, but I don't want nicotine dictating if I'm going to go early.

So far it's been a little over 1 day dip free. My mind always conjures a way to say "it's okay". I've been at my parents house for the last day so they could watch me after my tooth extraction. I'm a little worried about going home with chew there. I think I need to throw it out, down the toilet, when I get there.

I'm taking it day by day. One day at a time. Asking the Big Guy for help often. The subtle power of nicotine is just amazing though how frequently it wants to pull me right back to it. It is so powerful. I'm fucking tired of it though. It's time. It's long past time. No more nicotine.

Your guys help and support would be appreciated. I'll post roll if that helps me be accountable too. I've read some of the stuff off the site, and will read more. Some of the stories have been good, and may go back to re-read those in moments of weakness. Might also save some pics to my phone background as a frequent reminder that could happen to me.

Any help, tough love, etc., is always welcome and appreciated. I want to frickin quit and be done with it. Enough is enough.

You've got ample reasons to begin a quit. But, ultimately, you can't do it unless you want it. Bad. You started dipping. You have to quit dipping.

This site will get you there if you use it and embrace the tools available. The program is pretty simple: Post roll everyday promising your quit group and the rest of the members you won't dip. Then don't dip.

You'll be in the April '15 quit group. Read the info at the Welcome Center, go post roll, and get started with the rest of your life.

There's a great topic called "Anxiety and Deoression" in the "Getting my Act Together" section. A lot of guys have had issues with side effects like you described. Good information on the issue there.

[RedTail8]

Hi All - my name is Marc and I'm addicted to nicotine. Always have been. Smoked from 13 to 23 then dipped from 27 until now almost 37. Don't do much half way and know I've probably already damaged my body in ways I can never fix. Haven't found anything yet, and hope to god I don't. But know if I keep going the way I'm going I'm going to die early. Not really any other way to say it. And I don't want to. I'm enjoying lift too much too check-out young.

I took my last dip just over a day ago now. I didn't plan it much as my 'last dip'. I got my wisdom teeth out yesterday morning and had my last dip about 4am just before I went to bed. I woke up around 9am and didn't think I should dip because it could cause problems with the anethesia they were going to do for me. Now I'm not supposed to chew for 5-7 days after getting my teeth pulled too. They said I can chew nicotine gum, but I would like to quit and detox off nicotine. I've played with gum quitting before and had some limited success up to 4 months. I've always quit for at least a few months here and there cold turkey. Then other shorter periods too.

I really would just like to be done with it. I chew in my office and would rather not. I don't see it as very professional having a big old dip in, and a spitter cup sitting on my desk. I chew about 2 tins a days Grizzly Wide Cut Wintergreen or Long Cutt Wintergreen.

When I've quit before feeling better physically was fantastic. Just overall felt better. I've struggled with depression quitting before though. Pretty severe. I've been on Wellbutrin SR for about a year now. First to help with the cravings, but mostly to help with the side affects of quitting. I might have always medicated depression with nicotine. But I need to find another way now. I have to. Otherwise depression will kill me with nicotine/chew if I don't quit.

We all go when we go, but I don't want nicotine dictating if I'm going to go early.

So far it's been a little over 1 day dip free. My mind always conjures a way to say "it's okay". I've been at my parents house for the last day so they could watch me after my tooth extraction. I'm a little worried about going home with chew there. I think I need to throw it out, down the toilet, when I get there.

I'm taking it day by day. One day at a time. Asking the Big Guy for help often. The subtle power of nicotine is just amazing though how frequently it wants to pull me right back to it. It is so powerful. I'm fucking tired of it though. It's time. It's long past time. No more nicotine.

Your guys help and support would be appreciated. I'll post roll if that helps me be accountable too. I've read some of the stuff off the site, and will read more. Some of the stories have been good, and may go back to re-read those in moments of weakness. Might also save some pics to my phone background as a frequent reminder that could happen to me.

Any help, tough love, etc., is always welcome and appreciated. I want to frickin quit and be done with it. Enough is enough.