This has to happen

[chewie]

I'm a HUGE proponent of the fake stuff. I chewed it all day every day for a good 220+ days into my quit. Then one day... I just didn't.

There are some that will tell you to get rid of everything including the fake as soon as possible to get you away from the habit of your addiction. Personally, I look a the fake as a very powerful tool in your quit arsenal.

I've said it often and I'll repeat it here...

I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life than to ever have another dip of Kodiak.

Keep up the great work my man!

~ Chewie

[B-loMatt]

Great quit going on here! The nicotine is the addiction, and nic free fake dip is not addictive. IMO anything nic free is fine to stuff in your gob. The distraction is often all you need to take the edge of a craving and move on. You will eventually loose the oral fixation, but right now just worry about staying nic free. I used the fake dip hard for the first month or so then mostly sunflower seeds. Now I just chew gum, but I still keep the fake dip around should I ever need it. Keep fighting! You are closer than you think to a better place.

[Thumblewort]

Laxdog, I'm at Day 43, and had a rough go yesterday, especially at work, but I am able to hit this site, and it kept me quit, just like you did. Based on my quit, I seem to have 4 good days, 2 bad days, and 1 GREAT day a week, which is awesome compared to weeks 1  2. Damn proud to be quit with you today and using this awesome resource called the KTC with you today.

[srans]

I have been chewing Smokey Mountain Wintergreen like a banshee since it arrived this afternoon. All my triggers are being fulfilled. I hit the live chatroom and a great guy (Cbird I think) said don't sweat it. It just seems to much like the real deal that I can easily see myself falling into the same habit with the fake stuff. Do any of you old timers continue to chew the fake stuff. I would like to know that weaning of this stuff will be easy, as I want to get rid of spit cups from my life.

Personal opinion,, worry about staying quit for a while. Whatever it takes! I used the fake until the 40s. Tossed it and maybe picked it up one more time in the 70s i think. The first 2 to 3 weeks is really difficult, at least it was for me. Hang in there. If worrying about fake is keeping you quit, so be it. Quit with you today.

[laxdog]

I have been chewing Smokey Mountain Wintergreen like a banshee since it arrived this afternoon. All my triggers are being fulfilled. I hit the live chatroom and a great guy (Cbird I think) said don't sweat it. It just seems to much like the real deal that I can easily see myself falling into the same habit with the fake stuff. Do any of you old timers continue to chew the fake stuff. I would like to know that weaning of this stuff will be easy, as I want to get rid of spit cups from my life.

[Reeseb]

I'm the same age as you and also started dipping in college. Also was successful and now retired until I can figure something else out to do. I'm at day 71 and my advice to you is to not look ahead to 'better days' and don't worry about whether you are 'over the hump'. You aren't quitting to make yourself feel good! You are quitting to save your life! It's just that simple. At 71 days, I don't feel good at all. I still crave the stuff several times a day. Quitting doesn't feel good and I don't know how long it will take for either of us to get over the cravings. Just keep posting roll and take it one day at a time.

I'm with you on this.

[srans]

Man this afternoon has been tough. Quitting sounds so goof on paper, but I am having a tough time with the concept of forever. I know its the fucking nic talking, but the concept of never chewing again is depressing. It really is beginning to piss me off that my level of happiness is directly tied to that stupid green can, but that is how it feels. Just 5 more hours until the 72 hour mark, which supposedly marks the end of the physical addiction part.

Thanks for the encouragement guys. I have read your HOF speech Doc and we do sound a lot alike. I just have to trust you guys that there is gold at the end of the rainbow. I just want to sleep, which is not like me at all. My daughters complain that I never sit down.

You got a lot to learn, but the good news is you're learning. The hard way...which is the only way. A few things for you to think about

1)stop thinking about forever and think only about today. I'm just over 5 months in and I only think about today. Ask the guy who is 2000 days in,...he thinks only about today. When we post roll, we post roll every day for that day...making that promise, that pledge, that oath not to use nicotine for that day.

2) Quit for you. It's not about how happy your wife or kids are about this; its about you. You've probably "tried" to quit before for all those who want you to quit...and I bet you ended up at square one, every time. Hence you're here. You quit for you.

3) Being quit, talking about being quit, posting roll, quitting with an online support group - used to sound corny, now it is your bread and butter. We are the cool people and we want you to hang out with us; the losers try to quit on their own and usually fail (I was one of those). I now have friends; those I talk to weekly; through this site...because it's F'in cool.

Lastly, re-read your intro in a few days. Look at the stuff you're saying. "Love dipping" "Happinesss directly tied to the can" "quitting sounds goof on paper" ...etc. When the fog lifts and the quitter before you is revealed in the mirror; you will be a different person, still an addict, just different. When you realize your freedom, you won't recognize the slave.

Great words ^^^^^^!

Quitting sounds so goof on paper,

You know whats really goof? You suckling with the poison day in and day out. Giving your hard earned money for something that does absolutely nothing for you but take. Loving a dirty, disgusting stinky poison more than yourself, wife, kids and family.

Quitting sounds damn right cool my friend. Give yourself a high five my man. Your one cool mutha!

[brettlees]

All Nic cans are out of the house. My first shipment of the herbal stuff came today. I had not planned on using it because it still involves all the nastiness of the habit, but after today, I had to pop one in. It feels and tastes like the real thing. I really thought I was over the hump,but today at work was the worst I have felt. Just plain down in the dumps and felling lousy. Held strong, but not feeling too good about myself right now.

Head up soldier you're kicking the Nic bitch's ass. You're past the physical withdrawal portion it's all mental games at this point. Be proud and stay tough. You are winning.

The heck with any conception of being over the hump, and with any feeling bad about yourself! You promised to quit today, and you are doing that. Just worry about that. Get through the day. Thats the whole focus. You're doing it-- feel good about that! whatver it takes to not put the poison in, that's what you do. If you do that, you get a victory for the day. If you keep doing that, you will feel great as time passes by. It gets so much better you won't believe it-- just be kind to yourself as you fight the early battles, all you have to do is win, it doesn't matter how. The nic bitch doesn't hold back trying to trick you, so there is no set of rules for you in fighting her either- just win.

VERY Glad to see you doing this and to quit with you!

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

All Nic cans are out of the house. My first shipment of the herbal stuff came today. I had not planned on using it because it still involves all the nastiness of the habit, but after today, I had to pop one in. It feels and tastes like the real thing. I really thought I was over the hump,but today at work was the worst I have felt. Just plain down in the dumps and felling lousy. Held strong, but not feeling too good about myself right now.

Head up soldier you're kicking the Nic bitch's ass. You're past the physical withdrawal portion it's all mental games at this point. Be proud and stay tough. You are winning.

[laxdog]

All Nic cans are out of the house. My first shipment of the herbal stuff came today. I had not planned on using it because it still involves all the nastiness of the habit, but after today, I had to pop one in. It feels and tastes like the real thing. I really thought I was over the hump,but today at work was the worst I have felt. Just plain down in the dumps and felling lousy. Held strong, but not feeling too good about myself right now.

[derv88]

Hopefully your cans are empty or gone. I kept my last can after flushing the contents as a trophy and have physically removed all reminders of that life from my environment.

[laxdog]

I am starting to see why this site works. Today was much easier. The fog has lifted and there were times when I even felt a bit euphoric. I quickly caught myself in a trap where my brain was saying "that was so easy, go ahead and pop one in and then you can easily go back to the quit". Did not let the bitch get me though..Never again for any reason.

Work was fine,but I never dip then anyway. After work I immediately jumped on the boat and went fishing. It was dead slack tide, so I kicked back to some tunes. That's when a major crave hit me. Luckily I was in the middle of bay with no skoal. I need to get it through my head that dip is not a solution to boredom. When I got back to the dock, I immediately jumped on KTC and read the encouraging posts and can honestly say they helped. and yes..It was a great dump.

[Braves360]

Small triumph. I had a very important client meeting today. I was presenting to the full board, which is always stressful. The real stress for me was the hour plus drive into DC, without a skoal. The traffic was horrendous and I was cutting it close. I could feel myself getting more and more irritated and "the fog" was thick. The meeting went fine, but on the way home, when I stopped for gas, I was literally shaking as I approached the counter. Right behind the clerk was my golden ticket, buy somehow I overcame one hell of a craving and drove the hour home in misery. I have a headache, the shakes, and irritable bowel syndrome. I guess all of this is normal.

laxdog, thank you for posting this. This post has made my quit stronger by reading it. Damn proud to be quit with a bad ass like yourself!

Just think, with that irritable bowel you'll be shitting without spitting on your dick.

Reason number 176 to quit dip....no more splattering the frank n beans when taking a dump. We've all done it and here is to never doing it again!


Man you are rocking the hell out of this quit. You have made it this far you can make it through today. Remember you are not worried about making it through tomorrow or this week or next week, your main focus is today. I was where you were 30 odd days ago and I'm nowhere near as experienced as some of these badass quitters, but now, on day 40, I can promise you that it gets a hell of a lot better. If you haven't yet, make sure you print out the contract to quit and put it in your wallet right next to your credit/debit card so that the next time you are in the gas station and you are tempted to buy the bitch you see that contract and will be instantly reminded of the consequences of caving. It will NEVER be worth letting that bitch win. Trust me, it does get better and you will be amazed and how quickly the body starts to heal itself and how the mind will start to make new pathways to happiness.

[Doc Chewfree]

Small triumph. I had a very important client meeting today. I was presenting to the full board, which is always stressful. The real stress for me was the hour plus drive into DC, without a skoal. The traffic was horrendous and I was cutting it close. I could feel myself getting more and more irritated and "the fog" was thick. The meeting went fine, but on the way home, when I stopped for gas, I was literally shaking as I approached the counter. Right behind the clerk was my golden ticket, buy somehow I overcame one hell of a craving and drove the hour home in misery. I have a headache, the shakes, and irritable bowel syndrome. I guess all of this is normal.

laxdog, thank you for posting this. This post has made my quit stronger by reading it. Damn proud to be quit with a bad ass like yourself!

Just think, with that irritable bowel you'll be shitting without spitting on your dick.

Reason number 176 to quit dip....no more splattering the frank n beans when taking a dump. We've all done it and here is to never doing it again!

I'm not sure if Ginet has done it or not, but 224 probably has :D

[E&C's Dad]

Small triumph. I had a very important client meeting today. I was presenting to the full board, which is always stressful. The real stress for me was the hour plus drive into DC, without a skoal. The traffic was horrendous and I was cutting it close. I could feel myself getting more and more irritated and "the fog" was thick. The meeting went fine, but on the way home, when I stopped for gas, I was literally shaking as I approached the counter. Right behind the clerk was my golden ticket, buy somehow I overcame one hell of a craving and drove the hour home in misery. I have a headache, the shakes, and irritable bowel syndrome. I guess all of this is normal.

laxdog, thank you for posting this. This post has made my quit stronger by reading it. Damn proud to be quit with a bad ass like yourself!

Just think, with that irritable bowel you'll be shitting without spitting on your dick.

Reason number 176 to quit dip....no more splattering the frank n beans when taking a dump. We've all done it and here is to never doing it again!