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[willmichaelson]

We all know what you CAN do.

It's what you ARE doing that is concerning.

Look man. You come across as a nice kid. You're polite, and you're not fighting against the shit thrown at you (too much).

However, you just don't get it.

You fucking "posted roll" only in 2010 and caved within 2 months. You've waltzed back in here, and within the first couple weeks of stopping you have missed a roll and posted late. I do not see a plan here even though you were asked for one, and I really don't see a good enough answer to the three questions asked of all returning members (What happened? Why did it happen? What are you doing differently this time?).

You really need to wake the fuck up and own this quit because we can't do it for you. Quitting is your top priority from this moment on. No fucking excuses.

How many numbers you got?

What is your last line of defense when the nic bitch comes calling here again and this initial quit adrenaline has run out? It's easy to stop now, but it's harder to always remember.

Addict.

Thanks, Waste. I don't want to hurt a group by being lazy, and it essentially falls on me and only me. I didn't post on Saturday, and I let the thread know that last night, simply because I went brain dead on posting.

I have been lucky enough to receive #s from Grizzly25, Wt57 and SABRESTRIKE99. I haven't 'had' to use them yet, but I like knowing I have them in my phone to text when possible.

Maybe I'm going at it the wrong way, but I can't keep backtracking, because all that does is make people angry and I don't want to keep apologizing. The easy answer from you could very well be 'Then stop fucking being an idiot'. The thing is, I AM an idiot about this. I'm still in the dark about a quit plan, I asked about best tips for building a quit plan, and have gotten a couple tips that I use (post roll, get numbers, keep a log of your quit,etc.)

Last line of defense are these numbers. When I'm shaking and driving to the gas station, these numbers WILL be called/texted.
I have had cravings, I'm not having a perfect quit. I have been really fucking moody and have flamed all of my roommates during this time, but I have handled my usual triggers well, at least in the start. I haven't cracked at the gas station, which I visit often to pick up seeds/coffee/gas; I have played video games at length without worrying about when my next chew goes in; I turned down a chew that may as well have been put on a pedestal from my longtime friend.

You may be saying, 'big fuckin' deal, you're still in the early stages of quit.'
Early or not, like everyone on these threads have said, it's one day at a time, and as for the past 11 days, it's been good. Today has been good.

If my not posting Saturday is grounds for suspension of my account (and if my posting is annoying to you all, at the very least), let me know. I value your input here, but i don't want to jeopardize anyone's quit for the sake of me posting.

This is not me being nice. This is me being frustrated with myself and with the process.

[wastepanel]

We all know what you CAN do.

It's what you ARE doing that is concerning.

Look man. You come across as a nice kid. You're polite, and you're not fighting against the shit thrown at you (too much).

However, you just don't get it.

You fucking "posted roll" only in 2010 and caved within 2 months. You've waltzed back in here, and within the first couple weeks of stopping you have missed a roll and posted late. I do not see a plan here even though you were asked for one, and I really don't see a good enough answer to the three questions asked of all returning members (What happened? Why did it happen? What are you doing differently this time?).

You really need to wake the fuck up and own this quit because we can't do it for you. Quitting is your top priority from this moment on. No fucking excuses.

How many numbers you got?

What is your last line of defense when the nic bitch comes calling here again and this initial quit adrenaline has run out? It's easy to stop now, but it's harder to always remember.

Addict.

[willmichaelson]

Well well well...willmichaelson.  I remember you from July 2010.  Appears you didn't ever pop back in and announce your return.  Funny how that works.  You serious about this, come home to July 2010 and give us your story.  Then start posting everyday with us and make it to the hof finally.  What say you, cuz?

Oh you want me posting on the July 2010 one from now one? I can do that.

Post with your new group and come home and post with us. Double the accountability never hurts. I'll pm you later with my digits.

Sounds good! I just posted my story on July 2010. I'll post both places.

Thanks Instigator for this.

[Instigator]

Well well well...willmichaelson.  I remember you from July 2010.  Appears you didn't ever pop back in and announce your return.  Funny how that works.  You serious about this, come home to July 2010 and give us your story.  Then start posting everyday with us and make it to the hof finally.  What say you, cuz?

Oh you want me posting on the July 2010 one from now one? I can do that.

Post with your new group and come home and post with us. Double the accountability never hurts. I'll pm you later with my digits.

[willmichaelson]

Well well well...willmichaelson. I remember you from July 2010. Appears you didn't ever pop back in and announce your return. Funny how that works. You serious about this, come home to July 2010 and give us your story. Then start posting everyday with us and make it to the hof finally. What say you, cuz?

Oh you want me posting on the July 2010 one from now one? I can do that.

[willmichaelson]

Day 11 - Post weekend...

I didn't post on Saturday, and I posted very late last night, but I didn't cave. In fact, I think I got just a little stronger in my fight.
I went out shooting with my friends this weekend, and to me, that always meant stopping and grabbing a couple tins for the day. I was burning through my bbq seeds on the drive there, but I was feeling fine. The friends I met out there, though, had already gotten plenty of chew.
As the day went on, I didn't feel all that bad. No cravings that my bag o' seeds couldn't satisfy. No sweat.
These guys knew I quit. I laid it out for them that I was no longer chewing, and I hoped they'd understand. Then one friend offered me one. The lid was off the tin and everything, all I had to do was grab a pinch.

NOPE!

I politely declined, and instead threw a crapload of seeds in my mouth. That was hard as fuck to do, but I'm glad I turned it down. Boom!

I posted Day 11 last night in the pre-HOF thread for August, but I realized this morning that I can't do math for shit late at night. Today is my day 11, and I couldn't be happier that I got through this weekend without that nasty habit I'd developed over the years! Fuck you chew!

Good stuff!

I have some friends that have never really embraced the fact that I am quit, probably cause they have been down this road with me before and I had failed in the past!

Great job getting past a first stressful hurdle!

Get some fake stuff to help get past those times like you described, the seeds help greatly but the extra amount of salt is going to give you some sore in your mouth, FYI!

Great job and keep up the good work!

Thanks, Griz. I've been pounding water down a ton, but I haven't seen too much damage in my lips from it. The Giants BBQ seeds are hot as shit, though. It's got a serious zing.

1) Post roll call everyday. No excuses. Call or text a buddy if you can't do it yourself. No excuses.

2) Did your friend know you are quit and offered anyway? If so, you should've slapped that open can back into his face. Maybe kick 'em in the nuts too. Then nobody will offer you chew again.

3) This isn't a fucking habit, it is an addiction. Understanding this is critical - you are a drug addict!

4) Congrats on staying quit through a tough trial!

1. I should have done that, but didn't, plain and simple. I don't have an excuse other than I just got caught up in shit this weekend and went brain-dead on posting.

2. As much as I did, he has always been the type of guy to enable people. I knew this going into the day with him, but he knocked it off after I denied it. He knows not to push the envelope with me.

3. I goofed on that, and you are correct sir. Addiction, NOT habit.

4.Thanks a ton!

[willmichaelson]

Well well well...willmichaelson. I remember you from July 2010. Appears you didn't ever pop back in and announce your return. Funny how that works. You serious about this, come home to July 2010 and give us your story. Then start posting everyday with us and make it to the hof finally. What say you, cuz?

Hey Instigator! I can do that now.

[Notdeadyet]

Day 11 - Post weekend...

I didn't post on Saturday, and I posted very late last night, but I didn't cave. In fact, I think I got just a little stronger in my fight.
I went out shooting with my friends this weekend, and to me, that always meant stopping and grabbing a couple tins for the day. I was burning through my bbq seeds on the drive there, but I was feeling fine. The friends I met out there, though, had already gotten plenty of chew.
As the day went on, I didn't feel all that bad. No cravings that my bag o' seeds couldn't satisfy. No sweat.
These guys knew I quit. I laid it out for them that I was no longer chewing, and I hoped they'd understand. Then one friend offered me one. The lid was off the tin and everything, all I had to do was grab a pinch.

NOPE!

I politely declined, and instead threw a crapload of seeds in my mouth. That was hard as fuck to do, but I'm glad I turned it down. Boom!

I posted Day 11 last night in the pre-HOF thread for August, but I realized this morning that I can't do math for shit late at night. Today is my day 11, and I couldn't be happier that I got through this weekend without that nasty habit I'd developed over the years! Fuck you chew!

Good stuff!

I have some friends that have never really embraced the fact that I am quit, probably cause they have been down this road with me before and I had failed in the past!

Great job getting past a first stressful hurdle!

Get some fake stuff to help get past those times like you described, the seeds help greatly but the extra amount of salt is going to give you some sore in your mouth, FYI!

Great job and keep up the good work!

Thanks, Griz. I've been pounding water down a ton, but I haven't seen too much damage in my lips from it. The Giants BBQ seeds are hot as shit, though. It's got a serious zing.

1) Post roll call everyday. No excuses. Call or text a buddy if you can't do it yourself. No excuses.

2) Did your friend know you are quit and offered anyway? If so, you should've slapped that open can back into his face. Maybe kick 'em in the nuts too. Then nobody will offer you chew again.

3) This isn't a fucking habit, it is an addiction. Understanding this is critical - you are a drug addict!

4) Congrats on staying quit through a tough trial!

[Instigator]

Well well well...willmichaelson. I remember you from July 2010. Appears you didn't ever pop back in and announce your return. Funny how that works. You serious about this, come home to July 2010 and give us your story. Then start posting everyday with us and make it to the hof finally. What say you, cuz?

[willmichaelson]

Day 11 - Post weekend...

I didn't post on Saturday, and I posted very late last night, but I didn't cave. In fact, I think I got just a little stronger in my fight.
I went out shooting with my friends this weekend, and to me, that always meant stopping and grabbing a couple tins for the day. I was burning through my bbq seeds on the drive there, but I was feeling fine. The friends I met out there, though, had already gotten plenty of chew.
As the day went on, I didn't feel all that bad. No cravings that my bag o' seeds couldn't satisfy. No sweat.
These guys knew I quit. I laid it out for them that I was no longer chewing, and I hoped they'd understand. Then one friend offered me one. The lid was off the tin and everything, all I had to do was grab a pinch.

NOPE!

I politely declined, and instead threw a crapload of seeds in my mouth. That was hard as fuck to do, but I'm glad I turned it down. Boom!

I posted Day 11 last night in the pre-HOF thread for August, but I realized this morning that I can't do math for shit late at night. Today is my day 11, and I couldn't be happier that I got through this weekend without that nasty habit I'd developed over the years! Fuck you chew!

Good stuff!

I have some friends that have never really embraced the fact that I am quit, probably cause they have been down this road with me before and I had failed in the past!

Great job getting past a first stressful hurdle!

Get some fake stuff to help get past those times like you described, the seeds help greatly but the extra amount of salt is going to give you some sore in your mouth, FYI!

Great job and keep up the good work!

Thanks, Griz. I've been pounding water down a ton, but I haven't seen too much damage in my lips from it. The Giants BBQ seeds are hot as shit, though. It's got a serious zing.

[willmichaelson]

I didn't post on Saturday, and I posted very late last night, but I didn't cave.

You still don't get it.

So I should just leave then? If I miss a day, am I banished from posting?

[Grizzly25]

Day 11 - Post weekend...

I didn't post on Saturday, and I posted very late last night, but I didn't cave. In fact, I think I got just a little stronger in my fight.
I went out shooting with my friends this weekend, and to me, that always meant stopping and grabbing a couple tins for the day. I was burning through my bbq seeds on the drive there, but I was feeling fine. The friends I met out there, though, had already gotten plenty of chew.
As the day went on, I didn't feel all that bad. No cravings that my bag o' seeds couldn't satisfy. No sweat.
These guys knew I quit. I laid it out for them that I was no longer chewing, and I hoped they'd understand. Then one friend offered me one. The lid was off the tin and everything, all I had to do was grab a pinch.

NOPE!

I politely declined, and instead threw a crapload of seeds in my mouth. That was hard as fuck to do, but I'm glad I turned it down. Boom!

I posted Day 11 last night in the pre-HOF thread for August, but I realized this morning that I can't do math for shit late at night. Today is my day 11, and I couldn't be happier that I got through this weekend without that nasty habit I'd developed over the years! Fuck you chew!

Good stuff!

I have some friends that have never really embraced the fact that I am quit, probably cause they have been down this road with me before and I had failed in the past!

Great job getting past a first stressful hurdle!

Get some fake stuff to help get past those times like you described, the seeds help greatly but the extra amount of salt is going to give you some sore in your mouth, FYI!

Great job and keep up the good work!

[DeanTheCoot]

I didn't post on Saturday, and I posted very late last night, but I didn't cave.

You still don't get it.

[willmichaelson]

Day 11 - Post weekend...

I didn't post on Saturday, and I posted very late last night, but I didn't cave. In fact, I think I got just a little stronger in my fight.
I went out shooting with my friends this weekend, and to me, that always meant stopping and grabbing a couple tins for the day. I was burning through my bbq seeds on the drive there, but I was feeling fine. The friends I met out there, though, had already gotten plenty of chew.
As the day went on, I didn't feel all that bad. No cravings that my bag o' seeds couldn't satisfy. No sweat.
These guys knew I quit. I laid it out for them that I was no longer chewing, and I hoped they'd understand. Then one friend offered me one. The lid was off the tin and everything, all I had to do was grab a pinch.

NOPE!

I politely declined, and instead threw a crapload of seeds in my mouth. That was hard as fuck to do, but I'm glad I turned it down. Boom!

I posted Day 11 last night in the pre-HOF thread for August, but I realized this morning that I can't do math for shit late at night. Today is my day 11, and I couldn't be happier that I got through this weekend without that nasty habit I'd developed over the years! Fuck you chew!

[willmichaelson]

Thanks, Griz! And by the way, HUGE congrats for hitting the 100-day mark! Thanks for messaging me day 1 last week, I got a very necessary ass-kicking from the boards, but you also helped in encouraging me. I can't wait to hit the 100-day mark myself, and message you how great it feels. Thanks bro!

WT: HAHAHA! That's too awesome. Screw Verizon, and I would have loved to see that unfold live. I'll definitely keep tabs with you as well. I'm glad to have at least a couple of people to call on when I'm feeling the shit rage inside me!


Also, to anyone in the MN metro: If anyone knows of a couple places I can snag some fake chew, I'd be ever grateful. We're having a little sporting clays tournament amongst friends this weekend, and, while I'm going to stay quit, I know it's gonna be a huge bitch.
I'd like to try a tin today and see how it feels, rather than get a pallet online and end up hating it.

Thanks for the congrats!

I would tell you to goto the nearest Wal-mart they usually have the fake stuff, I use Smokey Mountain Wintergreen and it really does seem to help!

Quit on Quiter!

Thanks bro, I'll look for it!