New here, quitting tomorrow.

[mich 34]

Glad to see you made it through the first weekend Shane, nice work man. Listen to WP - he's been there done that and is one of many quitters who put time and effort into helping new quitters make it. You have a ton of ups and downs to go - trench in and get ready to beat that tin, it's not a skirmish and done. It is a war. If you forget that and think you've "got this" that's the start of the end of a quit. Protect your quit! Nice day 5 man.

[wastepanel]

Figured I would revive this, and give yall my background, as thats what these intro threads are supposed to do, and I dont wanna start another one!

I am 23 years old, and had been dipping since I was 18. Got up to almost a can a day. Started out with Grizzly straight, then onto Grizzly wintergreen, and then onto Kodiak wintergreen for the last 4 or so years.

I grew up thinking chew was the coolest thing since sliced bread. I envied guys who chewed, I wanted that big bulge in my cheek, and to spit all the time. Oh how COOL that must be I thought! Boy was I wrong...I bought into the hype...all it did was give me an addiction and bad breath. I also thought...oh I can quit when I want, I wont do this forever.

After reading and reading and reading some more on KTC, the first few days of my quit I started to think "man, im not THAT bad" or "Some guys do 2 cans a day?! Im fine!" Then I started to think about it the right way and thought "man, im so young, ive got so much to live for, I'm going to be a way better person for stopping while im ahead"....and here I am at day 5 feeling like a million bucks...like a 23 year old should....

Ive struggled with marijuana problems in the past, was hooked quite heavily on that for a while as well as dip. I have been clean from pot for months and months now, and now I am 5 days free from nicotine. I haven't felt this good since I was 18.

I feel like someone I can actually be proud of now, It is an indescribable feeling. And its due in large part to all of you. If I hadnt found this site, and been given all the advice I have, I dont know where I would be. Im so glad everyone just told me "START NOW, FLUSH YOUR TIN". That was the start of a new life for me.

Bottom line is....I feel great. And this is day 5. I am bigger than any addiction, and am never looking back. Theres not enough money in the world that could put that shit back in my lip...

On another note, I was in New Orleans this weekend with my girlfriend and some of her friends. I drank heavily, and didnt cave or even think of caving. I was around a lot of cigarette smoke, cigars, etc and all I could think was "you poor bastards" or "GROSS!" One of her friends smokes cigarettes, and It amazed me at his way of thinking and his rationalizations. It was true addict talk. I asked him why he smoked cigarettes, (after telling him I had conquered my addiction of course 'na na') and he replied with "oh I don't, I only smoke when I drink". Yeah right. I had just watched him burn one down at 12pm on the front porch...SOBER. He said "oh I didnt need to smoke that one, I just felt like it" and then he said "I can quit whenever I want, I go 2+ days sometimes without smoking"

I tried to explain to him how ridiculous this sounded, but he wasnt hearing much of it, and I had just met him so I didnt want to push any major buttons, but HOLY CRAP, that talk is crazy!!! I used to say the same shit, but I finally wised up. Its crazy the things our minds think to justify our actions....

Sorry for the long post, and I got a little off topic. But hopefully everyone knows me a little better, and Im happy to answer any questions or comments!!

Thanks again to everyone here...I am truly grateful...

- Shane

Day 5 is awesome, but 5 days is a drop in the bucket compared to all those days that you used. Please do not get too cocky and think that you can regularly tempt fate like that. What plan did you have in case you did feel weak?

You haven't conquered anything until you die quit.

[KillinTheKodiak]

Figured I would revive this, and give yall my background, as thats what these intro threads are supposed to do, and I dont wanna start another one!

I am 23 years old, and had been dipping since I was 18. Got up to almost a can a day. Started out with Grizzly straight, then onto Grizzly wintergreen, and then onto Kodiak wintergreen for the last 4 or so years.

I grew up thinking chew was the coolest thing since sliced bread. I envied guys who chewed, I wanted that big bulge in my cheek, and to spit all the time. Oh how COOL that must be I thought! Boy was I wrong...I bought into the hype...all it did was give me an addiction and bad breath. I also thought...oh I can quit when I want, I wont do this forever.

After reading and reading and reading some more on KTC, the first few days of my quit I started to think "man, im not THAT bad" or "Some guys do 2 cans a day?! Im fine!" Then I started to think about it the right way and thought "man, im so young, ive got so much to live for, I'm going to be a way better person for stopping while im ahead"....and here I am at day 5 feeling like a million bucks...like a 23 year old should....

Ive struggled with marijuana problems in the past, was hooked quite heavily on that for a while as well as dip. I have been clean from pot for months and months now, and now I am 5 days free from nicotine. I haven't felt this good since I was 18.

I feel like someone I can actually be proud of now, It is an indescribable feeling. And its due in large part to all of you. If I hadnt found this site, and been given all the advice I have, I dont know where I would be. Im so glad everyone just told me "START NOW, FLUSH YOUR TIN". That was the start of a new life for me.

Bottom line is....I feel great. And this is day 5. I am bigger than any addiction, and am never looking back. Theres not enough money in the world that could put that shit back in my lip...

On another note, I was in New Orleans this weekend with my girlfriend and some of her friends. I drank heavily, and didnt cave or even think of caving. I was around a lot of cigarette smoke, cigars, etc and all I could think was "you poor bastards" or "GROSS!" One of her friends smokes cigarettes, and It amazed me at his way of thinking and his rationalizations. It was true addict talk. I asked him why he smoked cigarettes, (after telling him I had conquered my addiction of course 'na na') and he replied with "oh I don't, I only smoke when I drink". Yeah right. I had just watched him burn one down at 12pm on the front porch...SOBER. He said "oh I didnt need to smoke that one, I just felt like it" and then he said "I can quit whenever I want, I go 2+ days sometimes without smoking"

I tried to explain to him how ridiculous this sounded, but he wasnt hearing much of it, and I had just met him so I didnt want to push any major buttons, but HOLY CRAP, that talk is crazy!!! I used to say the same shit, but I finally wised up. Its crazy the things our minds think to justify our actions....

Sorry for the long post, and I got a little off topic. But hopefully everyone knows me a little better, and Im happy to answer any questions or comments!!

Thanks again to everyone here...I am truly grateful...

- Shane

[jake frawley]

First thing I will do each morning is post roll. It is very important to me, and gets me through the day knowing that I made a PROMISE to yall that I will not use that day. It has made these first two days tolerable. I dont go back on my word, and giving it to yall each morning, actually writing it out and saying it is a powerful thing.

I see everyone here as a person, not a forum name, or an avatar. That is why I try to close my opinions with my name, because there is a person behind every keyboard.

I have the deepest respect for all of you, and excuse me if I do leave some things out or seem absent minded at the moment....I am in the midst of the fog and am told it will only get worse.

I was thinking "roll first thing" in my plan for the weekend, but I didnt type it out. There is a lot more I would have liked to type, but my mind isnt working quit right. I do have the best intentions though.

Thanks again for all of the support, I will take all of the help I can get. Everything I read here goes to heart, and I am not here just to be here. I am here because I want that support group, that brotherhood. This is a great place, and I am so happy to be here.

- Shane

P.S. Day 2 SUCKS 'Crazy'

I like this attitude! Quit on! My first few days were so bad................

[KillinTheKodiak]

First thing I will do each morning is post roll. It is very important to me, and gets me through the day knowing that I made a PROMISE to yall that I will not use that day. It has made these first two days tolerable. I dont go back on my word, and giving it to yall each morning, actually writing it out and saying it is a powerful thing.

I see everyone here as a person, not a forum name, or an avatar. That is why I try to close my opinions with my name, because there is a person behind every keyboard.

I have the deepest respect for all of you, and excuse me if I do leave some things out or seem absent minded at the moment....I am in the midst of the fog and am told it will only get worse.

I was thinking "roll first thing" in my plan for the weekend, but I didnt type it out. There is a lot more I would have liked to type, but my mind isnt working quit right. I do have the best intentions though.

Thanks again for all of the support, I will take all of the help I can get. Everything I read here goes to heart, and I am not here just to be here. I am here because I want that support group, that brotherhood. This is a great place, and I am so happy to be here.

- Shane

P.S. Day 2 SUCKS 'Crazy'

[Its_Got2Happen]

My plan this weekend is to keep occupied, and just enjoy being free from the nic bitch with my girlfriend. She never liked me dipping, but she tolerated it. I know she is really happy and supportive of my decision.

That being said, we are going to Bourbon street this weekend with a group of her friends. I know there will be triggers and temptations, but I will stay strong. Im not sure how umm "fun" I'm going to be, as I know the fog will set in pretty heavy this weekend.....I will overcome that as well though.

As for those who say to stay off the booze...well I had a few beers last night, and I think it actually helped me a little. I know that was day 1.....but it eased my mind and seemed to help me cope with craving.  I by no means intend to get trashed, as I do not know what the heck will happen then, even with my mindset.

I am determined to do this. I WILL stay quit no matter what. Cannot wait for this fog to lift...but for now...its here....im having trouble concentrating on what to pack for the weekend...holy shit.

You're a grown up. Just post roll first thing in the morning and then keep your word.

Damn lionheartedgirl catches on quick. Remember it really is that simple. Easy no, simple yes. Just be prepared KTK, you gotta be 100% committed to this. 99% leaves the door open for a cave. Lowering your inhibitions with drinking just makes this so much more difficult. Not saying it cant be done, just saying this shit is hard enough. Be careful.

I agree, no where in your plan does it mention post roll call first thing. That is the most important part of any plan.

Great point MikeA, I remember a post I made at 60 something days and it seemed fitting to share here. At day 150 I still feel the way about roll.

Here's my take. In the beginning I was like, "yeah whatever". Had no plans to do it. I played along for a few days, then I decided to just keep doing it even if I really didnÂ’t agree or didn't think I needed to. After all, some of these bastards dipped a decade longer than me and somehow they were quit for good. Some of them for YEARS. Maybe they knew a little something about quitting that I didn't. Over time here are a few things I realized about roll posting.

1. Making an affirmation and a promise each morning is very powerful. Can the promise be made just to yourself. Sure it can, but is it as powerful? In my opinion it most certainly IS NOT.

2. Post rolling = accountability. I am assuming that you have accepted that fact that you are an addict.

FACT: An addict WITHOUT accountability is (or will become) A USER.

3. Are we making a promise to strangers or random avatars? HELL NO! ThatÂ’s what I thought 61 days ago. Now I realize that these are people, just like you and I. They are people that you and I have alot in common with. We really understand each other and the impact that addiction has on our lives. I have gotten to know many of these people and they have played an enormous role in my quit. I never would have guessed it, but that's the truth.

4. KTC is a great informational website. But if that is all you are using it for you are not taking full advantage of it. In fact you are missing out on the greatest and most powerful part. THE BROTHERHOOD!!!!!!! Posting roll is a promise not to use for that day. You make a promise, and your brothers help you keep it. If you don't make a promise, how the hell can anyone help you keep it. Perhaps you don't need the help??

Final point. If you don't need help, more power to you man. But for me, this is my life, and I will take all the help I can get. The method is tried and true, why mess around. Personally I have tried to quit 100 times, and ALWAYS failed. Something was always missing. I came here and found out what it was, THE BROTHERHOOD.

[jake frawley]

I didn't mean for that to sound like I was bashing your input, although it kind of reads like that. All support and comments are accepted with open arms!

Just wanted to give my two cents about alcohol and my quit. I never liked to drink and dip. When I dipped, I dipped...when I drank...it was just alcohol. I could gut chew spit, but I like my beer to much to alter the taste with that shit! lol!

VERY few people can drink while starting a quit! I drink a couple every night, but only when I'm home with my wife. Drinking is only a trigger for me when I'm with the boys. But be VERY careful. Alcohol can weaken your resolve! I Have to be conscious of what I am doing. So do you! It's a dangerous game. That's the advice your getting. Don't lose the battle because of a drink. It's not worth it. A few days ago I drank too much and felt a strong urge to chew. I dumped out the beer I was drinking and called a quit brother. If you don't have to walk that line, though don't do it.

Hof is something to look forward to, but we are all 5 min away from the corner store. 5 dollars and it don't matter what day your on. Lets just quit today my friend,, I don't like thinking to far ahead. It gives me a head ache.

True words of wisdom!

[MikeA]

My plan this weekend is to keep occupied, and just enjoy being free from the nic bitch with my girlfriend. She never liked me dipping, but she tolerated it. I know she is really happy and supportive of my decision.

That being said, we are going to Bourbon street this weekend with a group of her friends. I know there will be triggers and temptations, but I will stay strong. Im not sure how umm "fun" I'm going to be, as I know the fog will set in pretty heavy this weekend.....I will overcome that as well though.

As for those who say to stay off the booze...well I had a few beers last night, and I think it actually helped me a little. I know that was day 1.....but it eased my mind and seemed to help me cope with craving.  I by no means intend to get trashed, as I do not know what the heck will happen then, even with my mindset.

I am determined to do this. I WILL stay quit no matter what. Cannot wait for this fog to lift...but for now...its here....im having trouble concentrating on what to pack for the weekend...holy shit.

You're a grown up. Just post roll first thing in the morning and then keep your word.

Damn lionheartedgirl catches on quick. Remember it really is that simple. Easy no, simple yes. Just be prepared KTK, you gotta be 100% committed to this. 99% leaves the door open for a cave. Lowering your inhibitions with drinking just makes this so much more difficult. Not saying it cant be done, just saying this shit is hard enough. Be careful.

I agree, no where in your plan does it mention post roll call first thing. That is the most important part of any plan.

[srans]

I didn't mean for that to sound like I was bashing your input, although it kind of reads like that. All support and comments are accepted with open arms!

Just wanted to give my two cents about alcohol and my quit. I never liked to drink and dip. When I dipped, I dipped...when I drank...it was just alcohol. I could gut chew spit, but I like my beer to much to alter the taste with that shit! lol!

VERY few people can drink while starting a quit! I drink a couple every night, but only when I'm home with my wife. Drinking is only a trigger for me when I'm with the boys. But be VERY careful. Alcohol can weaken your resolve! I Have to be conscious of what I am doing. So do you! It's a dangerous game. That's the advice your getting. Don't lose the battle because of a drink. It's not worth it. A few days ago I drank too much and felt a strong urge to chew. I dumped out the beer I was drinking and called a quit brother. If you don't have to walk that line, though don't do it.

Hof is something to look forward to, but we are all 5 min away from the corner store. 5 dollars and it don't matter what day your on. Lets just quit today my friend,, I don't like thinking to far ahead. It gives me a head ache.

[jake frawley]

I didn't mean for that to sound like I was bashing your input, although it kind of reads like that. All support and comments are accepted with open arms!

Just wanted to give my two cents about alcohol and my quit. I never liked to drink and dip. When I dipped, I dipped...when I drank...it was just alcohol. I could gut chew spit, but I like my beer to much to alter the taste with that shit! lol!

VERY few people can drink while starting a quit! I drink a couple every night, but only when I'm home with my wife. Drinking is only a trigger for me when I'm with the boys. But be VERY careful. Alcohol can weaken your resolve! I Have to be conscious of what I am doing. So do you! It's a dangerous game. That's the advice your getting. Don't lose the battle because of a drink. It's not worth it. A few days ago I drank too much and felt a strong urge to chew. I dumped out the beer I was drinking and called a quit brother. If you don't have to walk that line, though don't do it.

[KillinTheKodiak]

Got2Happen, I am 200% committed to my quit. No if's, and's or butt's.

There is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING that is going to get that shit back in my mouth. EVER.

Even though I am in the fog...I feel good about myself. Good about my quit, about sticking to it. I already feel like a better man. I cannot wait for how I will feel when I reach my HOF day.

[KillinTheKodiak]

I didn't mean for that to sound like I was bashing your input, although it kind of reads like that. All support and comments are accepted with open arms!

Just wanted to give my two cents about alcohol and my quit. I never liked to drink and dip. When I dipped, I dipped...when I drank...it was just alcohol. I could gut chew spit, but I like my beer to much to alter the taste with that shit! lol!

[Its_Got2Happen]

My plan this weekend is to keep occupied, and just enjoy being free from the nic bitch with my girlfriend. She never liked me dipping, but she tolerated it. I know she is really happy and supportive of my decision.

That being said, we are going to Bourbon street this weekend with a group of her friends. I know there will be triggers and temptations, but I will stay strong. Im not sure how umm "fun" I'm going to be, as I know the fog will set in pretty heavy this weekend.....I will overcome that as well though.

As for those who say to stay off the booze...well I had a few beers last night, and I think it actually helped me a little. I know that was day 1.....but it eased my mind and seemed to help me cope with craving.  I by no means intend to get trashed, as I do not know what the heck will happen then, even with my mindset.

I am determined to do this. I WILL stay quit no matter what. Cannot wait for this fog to lift...but for now...its here....im having trouble concentrating on what to pack for the weekend...holy shit.

You're a grown up. Just post roll first thing in the morning and then keep your word.

Damn lionheartedgirl catches on quick. Remember it really is that simple. Easy no, simple yes. Just be prepared KTK, you gotta be 100% committed to this. 99% leaves the door open for a cave. Lowering your inhibitions with drinking just makes this so much more difficult. Not saying it cant be done, just saying this shit is hard enough. Be careful.

[LionHeartedGirl]

My plan this weekend is to keep occupied, and just enjoy being free from the nic bitch with my girlfriend. She never liked me dipping, but she tolerated it. I know she is really happy and supportive of my decision.

That being said, we are going to Bourbon street this weekend with a group of her friends. I know there will be triggers and temptations, but I will stay strong. Im not sure how umm "fun" I'm going to be, as I know the fog will set in pretty heavy this weekend.....I will overcome that as well though.

As for those who say to stay off the booze...well I had a few beers last night, and I think it actually helped me a little. I know that was day 1.....but it eased my mind and seemed to help me cope with craving. I by no means intend to get trashed, as I do not know what the heck will happen then, even with my mindset.

I am determined to do this. I WILL stay quit no matter what. Cannot wait for this fog to lift...but for now...its here....im having trouble concentrating on what to pack for the weekend...holy shit.

You're a grown up. Just post roll first thing in the morning and then keep your word.

[KillinTheKodiak]

My plan this weekend is to keep occupied, and just enjoy being free from the nic bitch with my girlfriend. She never liked me dipping, but she tolerated it. I know she is really happy and supportive of my decision.

That being said, we are going to Bourbon street this weekend with a group of her friends. I know there will be triggers and temptations, but I will stay strong. Im not sure how umm "fun" I'm going to be, as I know the fog will set in pretty heavy this weekend.....I will overcome that as well though.

As for those who say to stay off the booze...well I had a few beers last night, and I think it actually helped me a little. I know that was day 1.....but it eased my mind and seemed to help me cope with craving. I by no means intend to get trashed, as I do not know what the heck will happen then, even with my mindset.

I am determined to do this. I WILL stay quit no matter what. Cannot wait for this fog to lift...but for now...its here....im having trouble concentrating on what to pack for the weekend...holy shit.