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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2015, 05:04:00 AM »
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Great read!

You seem on track. Stay that way.

My only advice that I'd like to add: have a heart to heart with your wife. Tell her what a liar you were. Come clean. Tell her what you're going through now. I think she will be your biggest supporter. You seem like a good man aside from the 38 years of sneaking and lying about tobacco/nicotine.

No more. Congrats.
^^^^ Agreed. I don't know the dynamics of your marriage, but from my experience your wife can be a huge support system. Just remember to be nice to her. In the early days it can be easy to want to take out withdrawal frustration out on a spouse. Use us instead if needed. Its healthier for marriages. We wont take half of your assets.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2015, 05:00:00 AM »
Great read!

You seem on track. Stay that way.

My only advice that I'd like to add: have a heart to heart with your wife. Tell her what a liar you were. Come clean. Tell her what you're going through now. I think she will be your biggest supporter. You seem like a good man aside from the 38 years of sneaking and lying about tobacco/nicotine.

No more. Congrats.
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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2015, 08:07:00 PM »
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Diary Entry Day 2:
Symptoms: Bad headaches off and on all day. Minor fog, but mostly due to trying to overcome the cravings.
What worked:
1) Yelling "I QUIT WITH YOU" in the mirror to drowned out the internal voice telling me to go to the gas station and buy more dip.
2) Keeping busy.
3) Spent most of Day 2 on KTC. Didn't get a lot of work done, but all of my new friends (seriously, what an amazingly great bunch of people on this site offering help to strangers) helped me thru the day and to a point of no pain by 4pm. Actually had moments of feeling pretty damn good today to offset the tough periods.
4) Coffee didn't help but water and cranberry juice did. Tylenol was my friend today.
5) Heading for a workout to sweat out some toxins.

To all of you who helped me or listened to me today, thank you! I've made it 48 hours because of my commitment to quit and your commitment to me. Couldn't do it without you.

I will post tomorrow morning.
Good stuff ODNT.

Keep up the hard work and drink that water. Flush your system.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2015, 07:31:00 PM »
Diary Entry Day 2:
Symptoms: Bad headaches off and on all day. Minor fog, but mostly due to trying to overcome the cravings.
What worked:
1) Yelling "I QUIT WITH YOU" in the mirror to drowned out the internal voice telling me to go to the gas station and buy more dip.
2) Keeping busy.
3) Spent most of Day 2 on KTC. Didn't get a lot of work done, but all of my new friends (seriously, what an amazingly great bunch of people on this site offering help to strangers) helped me thru the day and to a point of no pain by 4pm. Actually had moments of feeling pretty damn good today to offset the tough periods.
4) Coffee didn't help but water and cranberry juice did. Tylenol was my friend today.
5) Heading for a workout to sweat out some toxins.

To all of you who helped me or listened to me today, thank you! I've made it 48 hours because of my commitment to quit and your commitment to me. Couldn't do it without you.

I will post tomorrow morning.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2015, 04:59:00 PM »
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Wow old dog, the out pouring of support is overwhelming. I also dipped 38 years. But I am 153 days of freedom that I've never experienced in my adult life! Think about that my friend, you are gonna experience pure delight when you realize, wow this is amazing, I don't have to have you anymore whore! It's hard but you being one of the old dogs , I know you know what it means to be a man of your word. I'm here with you, side by side my friend and I too am thankful that ktc, my brothers and sisters and the good Lord have given me some added year's on my life! Damn proud to be quit with you today my brother! Pm me for number if you want
Old dogs rock. Wow, I didn't think I'd see another 30+ year dipper on the Quit Road and now I've had at least 4 that have my back. I'm gonna do this. It's going to be harder than I think, so I appreciate your offer of help and living by example. 153 days....keep it up man.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2015, 04:17:00 PM »
Wow old dog, the out pouring of support is overwhelming. I also dipped 38 years. But I am 153 days of freedom that I've never experienced in my adult life! Think about that my friend, you are gonna experience pure delight when you realize, wow this is amazing, I don't have to have you anymore whore! It's hard but you being one of the old dogs , I know you know what it means to be a man of your word. I'm here with you, side by side my friend and I too am thankful that ktc, my brothers and sisters and the good Lord have given me some added year's on my life! Damn proud to be quit with you today my brother! Pm me for number if you want
Tobacco is so addictive it took me a year after a massive heart attack, in which doctor confirmed caused from dipping to finally put a lid on the bitch! ODAAT EDD

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2015, 12:42:00 PM »
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You can do anything for a day my friend. Anything. Focus only on today. And when your mind starts telling you that you can't do this and thing won't get better and all other kinds of bullshit - click on ANY HOF speech. Keep looking until you find one that isn't positive about it getting better.

One more thing... Mindset is a big part of this process. I've done ok in life too, but every damn day for 25 years I lost at something. Something big. It was a tangled web of lies and horrible daily choices that were woven into an otherwise happy and successful life. How fucked is it that we work so damn hard to win at so many things, but choose to lose at something so important - something that determines our future health and compromises our integrity?

Today, from a craves/withdrawal standpoint isn't going to be a cakewalk. But today you are working to win at everything you do, and not choosing to lose. This little mindset change can help a lot...

Welcome aboard!
"...How fucked is it that we work so damn hard to win at so many things, but choose to lose at something so important - something that determines our future health and compromises our integrity?"

Hey Worktowin, you captured it. I know I'm being repetitive (but saying it over and over helps me quit), this damn dip makes you STUPID. 53 years on the path of life, conscientiously trying to make more right decisions instead of wrong ones, EXCEPT when it comes to dip. I'm still totally befuddled that I could be so blind and stupid for all these years. Even writing this now is helping me underscore the epiphany that I was a total dumb-ass when it came to my long-term health.

IMPORTANT PS: I was just suffering with cravings a few minutes ago as Day 2 progresses, but then I read your post, straightened up my spine at the computer and said out loud "I'm Quitting with you" and pointed my finger at the screen defiantly. Remember the old Uncle Sam wants you picture? Well that was me pointing at my screen and yelling it. LOL, it was quite a scene and pretty melodramatic but it worked! I even laughed afterward and the cravings disappeared. They'll be back, but I'm ready for them.
And I am quitting with you, sir.

887 days ago I was in your shoes. I remember every moment of those first few days. I wanted them to be seared into my memory, so that I wouldn't fall into the trap of failure. Failure is not an option. I post here every day, and I spend time on the intros every day, so that I can remember what those shoes feel like. Because the ones I am wearing today feel pretty damn fine.

You'll be wearing these shoes soon.

Check your inbox. My number is there.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2015, 11:53:00 AM »
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I quit with you today!
GADAWG. Thanks! You wanna know how strong my commitment is on Day 2... with all the f*cking cravings, headaches and fog?... Well, I'll tell you. My wife comes from a very old Georgia family tree. They even named the Georgia Alberta Peach after one of her relatives. The last 2 generations are all GA TECH fans. But I quit with you GA DAWG. Forget those dang yellow jackets. You and me man. Bulldogs all the way to day 100. LOL
Haha. Converting from a pesky yellow jacket to a damn good dawg could very well be the 2nd most important thing you do on this site lol. Quit on and go dawgs!!
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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2015, 11:48:00 AM »
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Congratulations Old Dog! Best decision of your life. There is no going back, embrace the battle, it's the only way. Time to regain integrity. Use this website and the community - it wouldn't have worked for me without KTC
Thanks. I can see already that KTC is going to make the difference. Just being able to post or chat with someone else about this, and knowing the support is there, is huge. I'm going to be a better person thanks to my commitment and this community.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2015, 11:42:00 AM »
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You can do anything for a day my friend. Anything. Focus only on today. And when your mind starts telling you that you can't do this and thing won't get better and all other kinds of bullshit - click on ANY HOF speech. Keep looking until you find one that isn't positive about it getting better.

One more thing... Mindset is a big part of this process. I've done ok in life too, but every damn day for 25 years I lost at something. Something big. It was a tangled web of lies and horrible daily choices that were woven into an otherwise happy and successful life. How fucked is it that we work so damn hard to win at so many things, but choose to lose at something so important - something that determines our future health and compromises our integrity?

Today, from a craves/withdrawal standpoint isn't going to be a cakewalk. But today you are working to win at everything you do, and not choosing to lose. This little mindset change can help a lot...

Welcome aboard!
"...How fucked is it that we work so damn hard to win at so many things, but choose to lose at something so important - something that determines our future health and compromises our integrity?"

Hey Worktowin, you captured it. I know I'm being repetitive (but saying it over and over helps me quit), this damn dip makes you STUPID. 53 years on the path of life, conscientiously trying to make more right decisions instead of wrong ones, EXCEPT when it comes to dip. I'm still totally befuddled that I could be so blind and stupid for all these years. Even writing this now is helping me underscore the epiphany that I was a total dumb-ass when it came to my long-term health.

IMPORTANT PS: I was just suffering with cravings a few minutes ago as Day 2 progresses, but then I read your post, straightened up my spine at the computer and said out loud "I'm Quitting with you" and pointed my finger at the screen defiantly. Remember the old Uncle Sam wants you picture? Well that was me pointing at my screen and yelling it. LOL, it was quite a scene and pretty melodramatic but it worked! I even laughed afterward and the cravings disappeared. They'll be back, but I'm ready for them.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2015, 11:40:00 AM »
Congratulations Old Dog! Best decision of your life. There is no going back, embrace the battle, it's the only way. Time to regain integrity. Use this website and the community - it wouldn't have worked for me without KTC
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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2015, 11:28:00 AM »
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I quit with you today!
GADAWG. Thanks! You wanna know how strong my commitment is on Day 2... with all the f*cking cravings, headaches and fog?... Well, I'll tell you. My wife comes from a very old Georgia family tree. They even named the Georgia Alberta Peach after one of her relatives. The last 2 generations are all GA TECH fans. But I quit with you GA DAWG. Forget those dang yellow jackets. You and me man. Bulldogs all the way to day 100. LOL

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2015, 11:24:00 AM »
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Old Dog, I quit with you. No more of this crap
MWBest, you me and the rest of the September Assassins. I quit with all you Samurais! Not one more chew. Never again.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2015, 11:22:00 AM »
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I like the way you write, sir. And I'm sure you're just as proficient a reader, so you already know this stuff, but let me tell you again so I can get in the practice.

We post our promise first thing in the morning here. Some lollygaggers think it's ok to go about their day and grace us all with a status update before bed. Well what good does a promise to abstain from tobacco do you for the last couple hours of the day?

The thing I struggled with on day one was embracing becoming a man of integrity and a man of my word. I'd lied to my family and to myself for so long that I twisted it around so as to be a point of pride! How amazing and fun it was to fool everyone! I must be so clever! Only after a week or two into my quit did I appreciate what a burden the lying and sneaking had been! And life is so much more simple now. My marriage has never been stronger now that it's rid of this cancer (pun intended).

So it's simple around here:
1) Post your promise
2) Keep your promise
3) Repeat.

I'm really excited for you! The next few days especially are going to be a trial, but it only gets better after that. I'm only at day 41 and I can truly say that quitting tobacco has enriched my life immensely.

PM me as well if you need anything at all, or just want to chat.
I quit with you today, just today, one day at a time.
"...what a burden the lying and sneaking had been!" Thanks for sharing that Robb. That was exactly why I decided to quit. My daughter caught me dipping late one night when I thought everyone had gone to bed. I hid it as quickly as I could and then proceeded to lie to her face repeatedly when she questioned why I smelled like Wintergreen. I'm embarrassed to even admit it. Here was my wonderful child that I had devoted a large part of my life to ensure she got off to a great start...someone that I trust implicitly and would never lie to...and here I was undermining the relationship I had built over years and lying to her face.

For what?!? So she wouldn't see me chewing tobacco? So that I could keep killing myself without her knowing? WTF was this stuff doing to me? I realized if I kept it up, I wouldn't be around to see her grow up anyway.

And what message was I sending to my daughter? "It's okay to lie. It's okay to chew. It's okay to do something stupid as long as it makes you feel good today." When I think about the book my daughter will write in the future about "Papa's Favorite Sayings", those are not the lessons I want to be remembered for.

Ya, that was the breaking point. It makes you STUPID, plain and simple. I quit with you bro. Thank you.

PS: One of my own requirements before I joined KTC was that I had to come clean with my family first. No more lying. That was tough. I have no credibility with them now. I have to earn it back. But before I can do that, I need to stop chewing. The great news is that after all the lying, they are still behind me and encourage me to post every day. I can do this.

I posted my promise this morning. Day 2

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2015, 10:35:00 AM »
Old Dog, I quit with you. No more of this crap