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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2015, 10:04:00 PM »
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Day 4. Feeling really good today. Have more energy than I normally would when dipping all day.

PS: My wife is getting jealous that I spend so much time with my KTC friends! LOL

PPS: But she's damn happy I'm not chewing.
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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2015, 02:41:00 PM »
Day 4. Feeling really good today. Have more energy than I normally would when dipping all day.

PS: My wife is getting jealous that I spend so much time with my KTC friends! LOL

PPS: But she's damn happy I'm not chewing.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2015, 11:54:00 AM »
Shout out to all you Old Dogs and other HOFers who have graced my Intro page. You guys are seriously impressive human beings. I know how busy you all are... family, kids, work, life, etc, etc, and you still find time to reach out and support a fellow quitter. And not just a "Good luck" post, but intensely thoughtful and provocative posts that require some thinking and time.

All of your effort and commitment to me makes my Quit as rock solid and permanent! I'm not blowing smoke up your kilts, I'm dead serious. I'm really impressed at your humanity. Kudos to each and everyone of you, not only for your Quit (which is Bad Ass in itself) but also for your continued support of others. You all deserve a medal.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2015, 11:49:00 AM »
Diary - Day 3:

BAS Randall and ChickDip group texted with me, barefootAdam and Mgav for our first weekend of suck. For any new quitters out there, I can't tell you how great it was to help and be helped thru the weekend via text. Sometimes we just shot the shit (Randall had me in stitches with this whittles...you'll have to ask him yourself about that) and Adam was a BAMFQ this weekend with more passionate texts than a Viking warlord.

Symptoms:
1. More cravings (about 8) but less than the day before (12) - worked thru them by using Adam's technique: Stop, say "Time out, I'm having a craving but I will not crave.", then hold out your hands straight and slowly count backwards from 10 while breathing fully and slowly. Felt like a meditating buddha, but it works wonders.

2. Kept busy all day...that was the key to keep my mind off quitting. Cleaned the garage, worked out, went to a ball game... All in all a fantastic day without nicotine.

3. Sleeping was okay but not great. Woke up 5 times at night, dehydrated and cotton-mouthed. But no other issues, so the actual sleeping in between was good.

4. BEST PART OF THE DAY - I had one of those moments where I realized I was really quitting and would never ever chew again or buy another can. That was an epiphany worth documenting!

Feeling great on the morning of Day 4.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2015, 11:25:00 AM »
Good on ya man! Your story is inspiring and I wish you success in your journey towards a nicotine life.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2015, 09:33:00 AM »
OD,

Like you and my brother Rawls, I'm older than the average quitter..... was a Copenhagen abuser longer than most of these folks been alive. I'm glad to see you're in September of 15 (the Samurais!). Like Old Enough Snuff and me (September Sultans, '14), we believe the young guns need some adult supervision to keep them on the straight and narrow. From what I've seen so far, you are just that person to provide that guidance. Old dudes rock! Proud to be quit with you today!!

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2015, 07:34:00 PM »
Keep up the good work ODNT! You can do this and we are behind you.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2015, 01:12:00 PM »
46 years old and a 17 years user brother, if I can do this, so can you! Be strong in these early days, because you'll be stunned how good you will feel in a couple of days! PM me for a number if you'd like. I quit with you today!
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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2015, 12:49:00 PM »
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Day 3. Starting off pretty well. Last night's cravings had me worried I would fold and go buy a can but I made it through and had a good sleep. Woke up this morning and could smell tobacco on me. All the toxins are coming out in my sweat. Nasty. Today is going to be a good (but tough) day.
You got this champ - don't even think about it.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2015, 11:35:00 AM »
Day 3. Starting off pretty well. Last night's cravings had me worried I would fold and go buy a can but I made it through and had a good sleep. Woke up this morning and could smell tobacco on me. All the toxins are coming out in my sweat. Nasty. Today is going to be a good (but tough) day.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2015, 11:14:00 AM »
Enough Snuff. Dude I am so proud of you. 1 year! And you're right I am seriously overwhelmed and incredibly impressed with the level of support, not only from my Quit Group teammates, but from long time Hall of Famers. The fact that the people on this thread took the time to visit me and offer their help and digits makes my quit all that more strong! I've embraced KTC way more than I thought I would, and I'm glad I did.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2015, 11:04:00 AM »
You have some great quitters lining up behind you to beat this addiction Old Dog. I'm a 34 year old user who in another 20 days is going to be nic free for 1 friggin year. I never thought it was possible, and without this site, I would've been just another caver. Good old Worktowin in his above statement says it best...stay focused! It took until my 3 year old grandson kept asking "what's in your mouth Gramps" to make me realize how foolish I was. I keep a picture of him in my wallet and anytime I get a crave, out it comes and reminds me again as to why I needed to quit using. There will be many days where you will question your quit, but with that proper mindset, you will beat the bitch. I got your back and quit with you Old Dog. PM away if needed.
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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2015, 10:57:00 AM »
Thanks pab1964. It sucked, but it was the right thing to do. And appreciate the offer. I will definitely text or call you if I nose dive or start turning into a total jackass. LOL, I don't know any other friends of mine (other than on KTC) who affirmatively want me to call them when I'm being an asshole. :) This IS a great community.

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2015, 10:41:00 AM »
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Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Great read!

You seem on track. Stay that way.

My only advice that I'd like to add: have a heart to heart with your wife. Tell her what a liar you were. Come clean. Tell her what you're going through now. I think she will be your biggest supporter. You seem like a good man aside from the 38 years of sneaking and lying about tobacco/nicotine.

No more. Congrats.
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^^^^ Agreed. I don't know the dynamics of your marriage, but from my experience your wife can be a huge support system. Just remember to be nice to her. In the early days it can be easy to want to take out withdrawal frustration out on a spouse. Use us instead if needed. Its healthier for marriages. We wont take half of your assets.
Grizzlyhasclaws and I'm Done With Chew. Morning guys. Thanks for the thoughtful advice. You both were dead-on accurate and I'd like to believe that great minds think alike.

One of my own prerequisites to quitting was that I first do exactly as you both suggested, but not only with my wife but also with both my children (both in their teens). Couple of things I learned during my first (and hopefully last) heart to heart with people you've hurt:

1. The people you care about will be your greatest and most ardent supporters, but don't expect any forgiveness or support until you initially prove you're serious about quitting.

2. When you've been lying to someone for a long time, and then all of a sudden say "I'm sorry, that was my last lie", you can't expect that you'll have any credibility whatsoever until you earn it back.

3. Talking honestly and openly about drugs, addiction and your own weaknesses and lack of will power is not only cathartic but instructive. You are teaching your kids to live by example with both humility and determination.

4. You're heart-to-heart is much more meaningful if they see you doing something about it. Watching me embrace KTC and my new life without nicotine, makes them happy.

5. You might think these types of discussions are about you coming clean. Wrong. This is about you taking the punishment you so rightfully deserve (but avoided for years because you were lying) by letting your victims vent. As much as you need to heal by apologizing, they need to heal their wounds by letting you know how you have hurt them and how angry they are with you, and how you better change or else. If you don't have a 2-way discussion where the people you hurt can hurt you back (verbally of course), then it wasn't a successful discussion. And it's your responsibility to keep the discussion cool headed and suck it up by not letting it escalate. YOU caused this. No one else. So take your medicine, earn their trust back and get busy getting quit.

6. Lastly, I promise you, that in a few days (it took 1.5 days for me and my family), after the dust has settled and the cold-shoulders and cooling-off periods have run their course, the people who care about you will be your strongest supporters. And to top it all off, you will have the stress-free feeling that comes with honesty.

Bottom line, you guys both couldn't have given better advice. Re-establishing my integrity with my family is one of my biggest drivers to Quitting success.
Great job olé buddy! Remember you're gonna be an asshole! I promise you! You have my number, call me I'll put you on speaker phone and listen while you vent. Seriously, come on here or in your group and rage,scream,hollar,whatever you need to do but avoid confrontations with the family. Man up, walk off and get on here we can and will help! Great start, pay it forward, Damn proud to be quit with you today my friend! We will always be addicts but I don't care as long as I'm dip free!
Tobacco is so addictive it took me a year after a massive heart attack, in which doctor confirmed caused from dipping to finally put a lid on the bitch! ODAAT EDD

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Re: Old Dog New Tricks
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2015, 10:30:00 AM »
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Great read!

You seem on track. Stay that way.

My only advice that I'd like to add: have a heart to heart with your wife. Tell her what a liar you were. Come clean. Tell her what you're going through now. I think she will be your biggest supporter. You seem like a good man aside from the 38 years of sneaking and lying about tobacco/nicotine.

No more. Congrats.
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^^^^ Agreed. I don't know the dynamics of your marriage, but from my experience your wife can be a huge support system. Just remember to be nice to her. In the early days it can be easy to want to take out withdrawal frustration out on a spouse. Use us instead if needed. Its healthier for marriages. We wont take half of your assets.
Grizzlyhasclaws and I'm Done With Chew. Morning guys. Thanks for the thoughtful advice. You both were dead-on accurate and I'd like to believe that great minds think alike.

One of my own prerequisites to quitting was that I first do exactly as you both suggested, but not only with my wife but also with both my children (both in their teens). Couple of things I learned during my first (and hopefully last) heart to heart with people you've hurt:

1. The people you care about will be your greatest and most ardent supporters, but don't expect any forgiveness or support until you initially prove you're serious about quitting.

2. When you've been lying to someone for a long time, and then all of a sudden say "I'm sorry, that was my last lie", you can't expect that you'll have any credibility whatsoever until you earn it back.

3. Talking honestly and openly about drugs, addiction and your own weaknesses and lack of will power is not only cathartic but instructive. You are teaching your kids to live by example with both humility and determination.

4. You're heart-to-heart is much more meaningful if they see you doing something about it. Watching me embrace KTC and my new life without nicotine, makes them happy.

5. You might think these types of discussions are about you coming clean. Wrong. This is about you taking the punishment you so rightfully deserve (but avoided for years because you were lying) by letting your victims vent. As much as you need to heal by apologizing, they need to heal their wounds by letting you know how you have hurt them and how angry they are with you, and how you better change or else. If you don't have a 2-way discussion where the people you hurt can hurt you back (verbally of course), then it wasn't a successful discussion. And it's your responsibility to keep the discussion cool headed and suck it up by not letting it escalate. YOU caused this. No one else. So take your medicine, earn their trust back and get busy getting quit.

6. Lastly, I promise you, that in a few days (it took 1.5 days for me and my family), after the dust has settled and the cold-shoulders and cooling-off periods have run their course, the people who care about you will be your strongest supporters. And to top it all off, you will have the stress-free feeling that comes with honesty.

Bottom line, you guys both couldn't have given better advice. Re-establishing my integrity with my family is one of my biggest drivers to Quitting success.