Hey man, hope you mean it. I just recently quit myself. Six days ago. Was on the patch for two days. Stumbled upon this site and was happy I found it. I put my story out there, much shorter than yours, but my..... How fast everyone was to pounce on my head. I had mentioned I was using the patch to quit. So in a moment of f u guys I'll show you I took the pussy patch off. Lmfao. Yea that's when I found out how big of a pussy I am. Been totally clean now for 4 days. Just now feel my brain again. I was in what the vets call the suck. It is hell, pure unadulterated god damn hell. Now while on the patch I thought this isn't so bad, sure I missed the dip but i feel ok, yea well these guys saved me yet another failed attempt. Had I not gone thru this 4 day ball crushing, brain twisting, emotional roller coaster mind fuck, well I might go back to dip thinking I'll quit another day. Not so likely now! I never want to go thru that again, never never never ever! Just now getting better in fact. So while you say you need this and not that, trust me these guys know what we need, they did it, we are trying it. Hope to see you on roll with us bad mfr's in August tomorrow.