Proud to say I will be a quitter

[Pinched]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

THAT IS ENOUGH

YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?

Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.

I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.

And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).

So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.


And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.

I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.

I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.

I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.

I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.

'Popcorn'

We need a reality quit TV show.

Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.

Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.

No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.

I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.

You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!

Stay Ghey you psycho characters.

For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.

Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?

Rough day for damn sure.

[slug.go]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

THAT IS ENOUGH

YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?

Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.

I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.

And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).

So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.


And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.

I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.

I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.

I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.

I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.

'Popcorn'

We need a reality quit TV show.

Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.

Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.

No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.

I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.

You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!

Stay Ghey you psycho characters.

For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.

[Mthomas3824]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

THAT IS ENOUGH

YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?

Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.

I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.

And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).

So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.


And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.

I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.

I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.

I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.

I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.

'Popcorn'

We need a reality quit TV show.

Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.

Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.

No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.

I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.

You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!

Stay Ghey you psycho characters.

[D2maine]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

THAT IS ENOUGH

YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?

Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.

I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.

And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).

So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.


And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.

I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.

I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.

I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.

I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.

KTC lost today. Plain and simple.

I cannot find the right words so i will echo what you said slug...KTC lost today.

[Bruce]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

There is a new guy that posted an intro 51 minutes ago by the name of Mayo. when grown men are done crying, wanting to leave, getting in personal bullshit beefs, allowing other big mouths from other sites to affect us, airing out dirty laundry in public, making assumption about the fucking ban word, and letting old issues affect you then feel free to drop him a line and support his new quit.

@ sixer :wub:

'boob'

It may be the jack and coke speaking, but sixer, you're sounding pretty good over there.

[slug.go]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

THAT IS ENOUGH

YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?

Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.

I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.

And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).

So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.


And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.

I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.

I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.

I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.

I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.

KTC lost today. Plain and simple.

[THansen2413]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

THAT IS ENOUGH

YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?

Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.

I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.

And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).

So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.


And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.

I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.

I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.

I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.

I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.

[mich 34]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

Jesus man, (sorry to be posting this here Derek but it is where it is) I post roll at lnf and so do quit a few other solid quitters. who's pissed in your sand box? I post roll at ktc too. is that ok or am i not welcome if I post roll where ever the hell I want? talk about tough love and drama but then go look at who's bring the drama and who's bring love man. NOLAQ any and every member/mod/admin who has a problem with other sites. perhaps my head is just in the sand but I don't see anyone working to destroy ktc. I've not said word one to any member here about where I post because it's my business but come on. I remember seeing posts that had links to other sites, ktc used to be about quitting wherever it worked for each quitter. It's in more that one post on ktc that this isn't the be all end all, it's an option. An option that worked for most everyone who's ever going to read this post - yep. The only tool that might work? I've never seen that posted here. I don't think you need to call anyone out NOLAQ - if you don't let members dual post just say so. IF that's a rule here it's a new one. I'm not positive but would bet this may result in a reply saying that this shit needs to be left somewhere where new quitters won't see it. where would that be? and what's with keeping dissent hidden and banned all of a sudden? Any newbie reading this isn't shoving shit in their lip and that's a good thing - newbie run through 15 intros that are 3 pages long or more and you'll see a bit of drama, you'll also see some awesome posts from solid quitters i'd bet. I see a few things that riled me up - the first was your reply to Derek on his intro post the other day, you don't have to love him but how many of your posts has he shit on? I also see in the above post: "this is no witch hunt" and "they are bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by." I know this interweb can be a bitch when it comes to reading intent, inflection, sarcasm in written word but back the hell off Derek. If anyone thinks he's a pawn being controlled by the evil loot that's just retarded and you don't know Derek. He's a quitter who just wants to do anything in his power to help other people quit. What's wrong with that? Who brought drama into his intro? who's taken it to yours? Where has Derek brought any drama to KTC??? You yourself have said that behind the scenes he's had issues with you, that's where he's kept them, behind the scenes or did I miss his post in your quit group or in your intro where he brought drama? Call me the drama queen, I'm cool with it, just be set to hear a fuck off headed back at you. not because I'm a billy bad ass, not because I think you'll fear me over a few words, not because I don't know who I am but because I do and if anyone wants to question my reasons for being here or Derek's for that matter I can tell you that you are paranoid, perhaps you need to look at yourself a bit harder. - I'm backing off with my hands up real slow, no bricks in hand - don't shoot. - fuloot, fumods, fuadmin, fumich34. 'na na' see hands in the air... end rant.

[SirDerek]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

THAT IS ENOUGH

YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?

Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.

I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.

And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).

So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.


And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.

I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.

[J2b]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

There is a new guy that posted an intro 51 minutes ago by the name of Mayo. when grown men are done crying, wanting to leave, getting in personal bullshit beefs, allowing other big mouths from other sites to affect us, airing out dirty laundry in public, making assumption about the fucking ban word, and letting old issues affect you then feel free to drop him a line and support his new quit.

@ sixer :wub:

[sixercountry]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

There is a new guy that posted an intro 51 minutes ago by the name of Mayo. when grown men are done crying, wanting to leave, getting in personal bullshit beefs, allowing other big mouths from other sites to affect us, airing out dirty laundry in public, making assumption about the fucking ban word, and letting old issues affect you then feel free to drop him a line and support his new quit.

[Nolaq]

I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.

No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.

Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.

Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.

You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.

Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.

Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.

[Diesel2112]

I want to take a minute to point out to any and all Mods/Admins on KTC that comments are being made and things are being done to drive away yet another solid quitter from KTC. Whomever is the point on this has remained nameless as Derek is a good man, and he will not divulge information. This BULLSHIT of the Good Old Boys network needs to stop. We are all here to qui and in my 403 days here I have done that because of people like Derek who have been a daily contributor to my and many other quitters. If Derek is banned or discussed being banned then you might as well ban my ass too.

I came here to quit and along the way a have meet a few good men and women, why the fuck are people driving them away?

Derek, you have and will always be a friend in my life and I thank you for everything you have done and said for me. Everyone else, quit showing your ass and learn how to get along.

So we see in the above strings that SD is not banned... Great!!! But something has happened to create that possibility and it came from some unnamed Mods/Admins. It created enough of a stir to get one of the most solid quitters and supporters of quitters disenchanted with how things are being handled and a hell of a lot of his close quit brothers pissed off.

So, SDerek isn't banned.. fine..

I have one question...

WHEN IS THE BULLSHIT BULLYING BY THE MODS/ADMINS GONNA QUIT? To anyone. Not just SD, but to anyone. Sick of some of you punks sitting behind your computer screen acting all tough like you own the place with too much fucking time on your hands so you decide to pick on solid quitters and supporters of this site. The same kind of guys that make this site what it is. Keep it up Mods/Admins and you will be butt fucking each other and kicking each other off the site since there won't be anyone left to do it to.

Yep, I'm not the most active on here. I post, I take a quick look, and I run... Mainly because I work 12 to 14 hours a day, have a family to take care of and a quit to nurture. Been doing that for 724 days.

For those of you eating cheetos and fapping all day behind your computer trying to create drama on the site... STOP. Lest we lose more solid Knights of Quit.

Wait... I have another question for these unnamed Mods/Admins... Have you ever met Sir Derek?? Well, I have. He's from PA and I'm from TX and we met in GA. Common thread? Our quit. We all have to protect our quit and sometimes we need help in doing so. Picking on or singling out the guys that make this site work isn't the way to do it.

So. You can take your Mod/Admin stick.... and shove it up your ass.

LCWB96

Do you know what this was all about?

[worktowin]

What the hell would he be BANNED for?

Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?

If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?

Slug, you need to learn how to read...

I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.

been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.

So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.

No.

Please read above...

Negative. Should be crystal clear.

if someone is fucking with Derek this place is really going down hill. 'finger point'

Read....

There is no ban..

Yeah, it should be crystal clear. This weirdness is making me think someone wants to leave, but they want to do it with a side of drama. What is going on here, guys? Feel free to PM me so that this isn't in SirD's intro.

Repeat there is NO ban and no one that I am aware of behind the scenes is encouraging him to leave. If a ban vote was held today I feel safe to say it would fail. In fact I asked him not to leave.

Understood. TY

Derek, I hope you stay. I need you to stay. You helped me and you've helped a lot of people.

This is a difficult horse to ride... quitting is hard. It is probably almost impossible to ride 2 horses.

I've selected the horse I'm riding, and her name is KillTheCan. You've trained your KTC horse damn well my friend. I've done some investigating behind the scenes and the answers that I've gotten satisfied me... I don't think ill will was intended toward you... I really don't. Don't let some words get in the way of 800+ days of pure bad ass help... it isn't worth it.

Please stick with us. We need people like you... people like you are why KTC is what it is.

Your friend and fellow horse-rider,

worktowin

[lcwb96]

I want to take a minute to point out to any and all Mods/Admins on KTC that comments are being made and things are being done to drive away yet another solid quitter from KTC. Whomever is the point on this has remained nameless as Derek is a good man, and he will not divulge information. This BULLSHIT of the Good Old Boys network needs to stop. We are all here to qui and in my 403 days here I have done that because of people like Derek who have been a daily contributor to my and many other quitters. If Derek is banned or discussed being banned then you might as well ban my ass too.

I came here to quit and along the way a have meet a few good men and women, why the fuck are people driving them away?

Derek, you have and will always be a friend in my life and I thank you for everything you have done and said for me. Everyone else, quit showing your ass and learn how to get along.

So we see in the above strings that SD is not banned... Great!!! But something has happened to create that possibility and it came from some unnamed Mods/Admins. It created enough of a stir to get one of the most solid quitters and supporters of quitters disenchanted with how things are being handled and a hell of a lot of his close quit brothers pissed off.

So, SDerek isn't banned.. fine..

I have one question...

WHEN IS THE BULLSHIT BULLYING BY THE MODS/ADMINS GONNA QUIT? To anyone. Not just SD, but to anyone. Sick of some of you punks sitting behind your computer screen acting all tough like you own the place with too much fucking time on your hands so you decide to pick on solid quitters and supporters of this site. The same kind of guys that make this site what it is. Keep it up Mods/Admins and you will be butt fucking each other and kicking each other off the site since there won't be anyone left to do it to.

Yep, I'm not the most active on here. I post, I take a quick look, and I run... Mainly because I work 12 to 14 hours a day, have a family to take care of and a quit to nurture. Been doing that for 724 days.

For those of you eating cheetos and fapping all day behind your computer trying to create drama on the site... STOP. Lest we lose more solid Knights of Quit.

Wait... I have another question for these unnamed Mods/Admins... Have you ever met Sir Derek?? Well, I have. He's from PA and I'm from TX and we met in GA. Common thread? Our quit. We all have to protect our quit and sometimes we need help in doing so. Picking on or singling out the guys that make this site work isn't the way to do it.

So. You can take your Mod/Admin stick.... and shove it up your ass.

LCWB96