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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #533 on: September 03, 2015, 06:24:00 AM »
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Passing Day 1,150

Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.

But the past is the past.

There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.

We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.

As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.

So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.

Can I go back to the way things were, no.

Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.

Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!

I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.

You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.

KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.

1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.

Welcome back.
Your support and encouragement were a huge help to me also Sir Derek. Good to see you back.
1,151 solid days of quit, 1,151 solid days of being one of the many support columns here, 1,151 consecutive days of selfishly and selflessly quitting for yourself. Glad you are always there when I need you Derek.

Thank you
Derek you were one of the first guys to reach out to me 2 plus years ago, when I was still figuring out how to post. So if you're back, I welcome you back with both arms. But I, along with most of the quitters on this site, have no idea what the fuck happened amongst the powers that be...and frankly I have no interest in finding out. All I know is I wake up and post roll. How everyone could have made a mess of that simple task is beyond me. That is still the bedrock that makes this site go.
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Thank you dagranger for saying this!

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #532 on: September 03, 2015, 06:20:00 AM »
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Passing Day 1,150

Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.

But the past is the past.

There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.

We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.

As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.

So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.

Can I go back to the way things were, no.

Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.

Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!

I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.

You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.

KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.

1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.

Welcome back.
Your support and encouragement were a huge help to me also Sir Derek. Good to see you back.
1,151 solid days of quit, 1,151 solid days of being one of the many support columns here, 1,151 consecutive days of selfishly and selflessly quitting for yourself. Glad you are always there when I need you Derek.

Thank you
Derek you were one of the first guys to reach out to me 2 plus years ago, when I was still figuring out how to post. So if you're back, I welcome you back with both arms. But I, along with most of the quitters on this site, have no idea what the fuck happened amongst the powers that be...and frankly I have no interest in finding out. All I know is I wake up and post roll. How everyone could have made a mess of that simple task is beyond me. That is still the bedrock that makes this site go.

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #531 on: September 02, 2015, 09:15:00 AM »
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Passing Day 1,150

Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.

But the past is the past.

There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.

We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.

As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.

So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.

Can I go back to the way things were, no.

Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.

Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!

I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.

You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.

KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.

1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.

Welcome back.
Your support and encouragement were a huge help to me also Sir Derek. Good to see you back.
1,151 solid days of quit, 1,151 solid days of being one of the many support columns here, 1,151 consecutive days of selfishly and selflessly quitting for yourself. Glad you are always there when I need you Derek.

Thank you
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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #530 on: September 01, 2015, 11:18:00 AM »
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Quote from: SirDerek
Passing Day 1,150

Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.

But the past is the past.

There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.

We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.

As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.

So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.

Can I go back to the way things were, no.

Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.

Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!

I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.

You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.

KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.

1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.

Welcome back.
Your support and encouragement were a huge help to me also Sir Derek. Good to see you back.

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #529 on: September 01, 2015, 09:31:00 AM »
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Passing Day 1,150

Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.

But the past is the past.

There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.

We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.

As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.

So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.

Can I go back to the way things were, no.

Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.

Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!

I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.

You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.

KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.

1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.

Welcome back.

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #528 on: September 01, 2015, 08:46:00 AM »
Passing Day 1,150

Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.

But the past is the past.

There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.

We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.

As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.

So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.

Can I go back to the way things were, no.

Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.

Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!

I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #527 on: October 10, 2014, 12:02:00 PM »
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OK, for those who have stumbled in here and have read this load of BS, I will bring you up to speed on the above rant.

SD has left this site to have his own little round table. In his new place, they have a troll, who has been banned from here many times and under many names. The rants SD refers to are from that troll named Rutten/Loudmouth/Guy/Caveman, and not from any active member of this site or our moderating/admin team.

SD - If you have proof to the contrary, please provide it. Next time, check your shit before you accuse anyone of being a troll from our management team! Tool knows who wrote that crap. Ask your dear leader.
I PM'ed him and asked for a screen shot of moniker and ip addy of any offending post he thought was from someone here. If it's one of us, it will be dealt with.
No reason for more discussion here. If anyone has evidence that our people are trolling them, please send it to me privately and then post publicly if you don't hear back from me with a response. With that said, this thread is locked for the time being.

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #526 on: October 10, 2014, 12:00:00 PM »
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OK, for those who have stumbled in here and have read this load of BS, I will bring you up to speed on the above rant.

SD has left this site to have his own little round table. In his new place, they have a troll, who has been banned from here many times and under many names. The rants SD refers to are from that troll named Rutten/Loudmouth/Guy/Caveman, and not from any active member of this site or our moderating/admin team.

SD - If you have proof to the contrary, please provide it. Next time, check your shit before you accuse anyone of being a troll from our management team! Tool knows who wrote that crap. Ask your dear leader.
I PM'ed him and asked for a screen shot of moniker and ip addy of any offending post he thought was from someone here. If it's one of us, it will be dealt with.

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #525 on: October 10, 2014, 11:52:00 AM »
OK, for those who have stumbled in here and have read this load of BS, I will bring you up to speed on the above rant.

SD has left this site to have his own little round table. In his new place, they have a troll, who has been banned from here many times and under many names. The rants SD refers to are from that troll named Rutten/Loudmouth/Guy/Caveman, and not from any active member of this site or our moderating/admin team.

SD - If you have proof to the contrary, please provide it. Next time, check your shit before you accuse anyone of being a troll from our management team! Tool knows who wrote that crap. Ask your dear leader.
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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #524 on: October 09, 2014, 11:27:00 PM »
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This goes in here now as I want you all to see what your 'Men of Color' have been up to. instead of helping others quit nicotine they have been trolling other sites using names like TRAPJAW and FOULMOUTH, and posting items like the below:

"Wow....So many new quitters....Pathetic. "



"Blah, blah, blah...You are so full of shit...This is pathetic.

I can't believe the losers on this site have chosen to follow the loot version of Jim Jones...P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C.

Oh..Oops..The evil won version, or is it the conbud????....Whatever...

You ban me???? You declared war.....Steel yourself loot....tool...James Stewart....China Grove....Coming.... "



"How many one word post threads does this site think is necessary????


Good God.... "


So feel good about being quit and clean, but just take note as to what your leaders are up to. See if you can respect this, as I cannot anymore.

The Oct12 Round Table – A place to come together to tell of the battles, to celebrate victories and to discuss things as equals while people are side by side.

Well Merlin has foretold to me that he sees a vacancy soon at this table.

I can only say feel free to use it. Continue to celebrate when you are up as that means you are holding back your addiction for one more day. Use it as equals where we are all +1 each and every day. And do not be held a slave to anyone or anything, anymore.

To Avalon I go, Be good my friends.
Uh, ok. Is there a fact laden English version of this?

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #523 on: October 09, 2014, 11:00:00 PM »
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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #522 on: October 09, 2014, 10:52:00 PM »
Later!

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #521 on: October 09, 2014, 10:48:00 PM »
Quote from: SirDerek
This goes in here now as I want you all to see what your 'Men of Color' have been up to. instead of helping others quit nicotine they have been trolling other sites using names like TRAPJAW and FOULMOUTH, and posting items like the below:

"Wow....So many new quitters....Pathetic. "



"Blah, blah, blah...You are so full of shit...This is pathetic.

I can't believe the losers on this site have chosen to follow the loot version of Jim Jones...P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C.

Oh..Oops..The evil won version, or is it the conbud????....Whatever...

You ban me???? You declared war.....Steel yourself loot....tool...James Stewart....China Grove....Coming.... "



"How many one word post threads does this site think is necessary????


Good God.... "


So feel good about being quit and clean, but just take note as to what your leaders are up to. See if you can respect this, as I cannot anymore.

The Oct12 Round Table – A place to come together to tell of the battles, to celebrate victories and to discuss things as equals while people are side by side.

Well Merlin has foretold to me that he sees a vacancy soon at this table.

I can only say feel free to use it. Continue to celebrate when you are up as that means you are holding back your addiction for one more day. Use it as equals where we are all +1 each and every day. And do not be held a slave to anyone or anything, anymore.

To Avalon I go, Be good my friends.
I'm here to quit.

I don't really care who is sitting in a pope chair or how well the cardinals get along. I supported you Derek, but I don't like anything on the intro threads that isn't constructive to quitting. And this is anything but helpful.

Good luck at your new home. You will be missed, but I hope it brings you and ktc some peace.

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #520 on: October 09, 2014, 10:24:00 PM »
This goes in here now as I want you all to see what your 'Men of Color' have been up to. instead of helping others quit nicotine they have been trolling other sites using names like TRAPJAW and FOULMOUTH, and posting items like the below:

"Wow....So many new quitters....Pathetic. "



"Blah, blah, blah...You are so full of shit...This is pathetic.

I can't believe the losers on this site have chosen to follow the loot version of Jim Jones...P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C.

Oh..Oops..The evil won version, or is it the conbud????....Whatever...

You ban me???? You declared war.....Steel yourself loot....tool...James Stewart....China Grove....Coming.... "



"How many one word post threads does this site think is necessary????


Good God.... "


So feel good about being quit and clean, but just take note as to what your leaders are up to. See if you can respect this, as I cannot anymore.

The Oct12 Round Table – A place to come together to tell of the battles, to celebrate victories and to discuss things as equals while people are side by side.

Well Merlin has foretold to me that he sees a vacancy soon at this table.

I can only say feel free to use it. Continue to celebrate when you are up as that means you are holding back your addiction for one more day. Use it as equals where we are all +1 each and every day. And do not be held a slave to anyone or anything, anymore.

To Avalon I go, Be good my friends.

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Re: Proud to say I will be a quitter
« Reply #519 on: October 08, 2014, 01:54:00 PM »
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: SAM83
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Quote from: SirDerek
Friends and Family, gather around.

This posting comes as I think about my oldest son, who just turned 16 years old this weekend. It is one thing as parents that we try to teach to our kids (and others who have friends would tell them similarly), and that is to always watch out for those who they surround themselves with. The "don't fall in with the bad crowd" talk. I was thinking of this and found things very similar.

Now let me state, that when we used, it is not that we fell into the bad crowd. Maybe it would be better to say it was the wrong crowd. So there we were when we started, around the wrong crowd and the peer pressure and what may have you, that led us to using in the past for as long as we did.

Then it happened. We made that decision to become clean. We wanted to get rid of nicotine and live our life without it. And the way we did that is to find the 'Right' crowd to hang out with. We found those who wanted it out of their lives too, and those who had already gotten it out of their lives and it is with this crowd that we associated our self with to get to the points that we are today.

Along that way we not only gained the support we needed but we also then were able to give back, and to spread the knowledge, to spread the feeling, to make that crowd a little bit bigger. And when you get crowds that big, there will be some of whom you will make those close connections with, to where you will call one another not only friends, but family.

So, my table is always open for those who are wanting to join the right crowd when it comes to our daily decision to live clean. I bring my 827 days, my open hand, and my friendship to it each and every day.

Be good, Be clean.
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Happy 16th to lil sir.
I am the people your mother warned you about! 'oh yeah'

Hope you are doing well SD!
I'm for positive peer pressure!
I like it, I like it.
Keeping my jaw and tongue...I like them.
It's poison I tell ya, You wouldn't drink Liquid Drano, would ya?