The tin of sin....

[30isEnuff]

Those were some powerful words there Andy. Did the tin smell like baseball scrotum and were you instantly addicted to that? You didn't hesitate at all? That's "weird".

Oh, the discussion with your daughter was good too.

Welcome aboard. Document all of the bullshit you are going through: the sweats, craves, constipation(?), mind games. Tomorrow when the feelings come, look back on what you already conquered and ask yourself if you want to go through all of that again. Each day gets better and easier.

Get involed in your June group, other forums, and Chat if possible. Get to know these guys on a personal level. Get numbers so that you can call or text for support when you need it (not if you need it, we all do).

Quitting is possible if you want it bad enough. All the tools are here. PM if you need anything.

What our quit brothers said X 100!!! 'bang head'

Welcome to Hell. Get through each day knowing you ARE quit for now. We live in the NOW. Don't worry about tomorrow, it isn't real. We don't do history either...we just Quit one a.m. at a time!
I quit after 30 years of 1-2 can per day 24/7 putting the poison in like a big fucking doofus!!!!!
if I can do it...You can too....It ain't easy, it's hard work and well worth it. I wouldn't trade my quit for anything and I mean anything on this side of heaven!!!
Good to see another slave wanting his freedom!
Think about it a sec. Were we born with this shit in our system???
Learn to hate the cancer causing poison and you'll be a big help to others!

Cheers brother, You got this!
'zombie'

[Evil_Won]

Those were some powerful words there Andy. Did the tin smell like baseball scrotum and were you instantly addicted to that? You didn't hesitate at all? That's "weird".

Oh, the discussion with your daughter was good too.

Welcome aboard. Document all of the bullshit you are going through: the sweats, craves, constipation(?), mind games. Tomorrow when the feelings come, look back on what you already conquered and ask yourself if you want to go through all of that again. Each day gets better and easier.

Get involed in your June group, other forums, and Chat if possible. Get to know these guys on a personal level. Get numbers so that you can call or text for support when you need it (not if you need it, we all do).

Quitting is possible if you want it bad enough. All the tools are here. PM if you need anything.

[Radman]

Welcome, brother.

The guys posting before me have brought the gospel, but you and I have a LOT of similarities, so I thought I'd comment as well.

I have a relatively boring day job, but I'm also a firefighter and training officer for the 100% volunteer county where I live. Seems like nicotine addiction is rampant in the fire service everywhere. Quitting in that environment is tough, but I'm proof that it can be done.

My 20th reunion will be this year. I started dipping/chewing when I was 15 or 16. It controlled me for somewhere around 20 years.

I am a father before all else. On Sept 15, 2010, one of my 2-year-old twins walked up to where my wife and I were sitting. He spit on the grass and said "Like daddy!" with a huge smile. He was very proud of himself. I was flooded with emotion and fell apart. I felt like a COMPLETE failure. This child was expecting approval from me and all I could do was sit there. I couldn't look at him. I couldn't face my wife. No words would come. I spit out that dip and I have been quit every day since then. Today will be no different. I gave my word this morning.

My attitude has changed. Firefighters are occassionally viewed as tough guys. I say quitters are even tougher. I take that attitude the station every time I go. At this point, I actually feel pity for the guys still using because they are not strong enough to conquer it. You and I are no longer in that category.

Check your inbox.

[kidb]

Welcome to the site KFD. Listen to what Kdip says as he speaks the truth. We all have very good reasons for being here and many of us (myself included) include wanting to be the men and women that our kids will look up to and be proud of. However, I believe the reason why this site will make a difference for you in a way that "trying" to quit has never done for you before is that this site cuts through all of the bullshit.

We do not "try" here. We accept as a given that we are ALL weakminded NIC addicts. The reason why everyone here gets so down on members who use words like try is that you are already setting yourself up for failure. "Try" implies that you recognize that you may fail and that you are already forgiving yourself if you do fail. Given our addiction, that will inevitably become a self-fulfilling prophecy and result in failure.

There is no try here. Either committ to your quit, and committ to quitting 1 day at a time for the rest of your life or you may as well go back to your daughter and tell her that you care more about shoving tobacco in your face than her.

I have been addicted to Skoal for over 13 years and was a 2 can a day ninja dipper up until 133 days ago. For the first time in years, I feel good about myself again but also know I will never be free of my addiction. Still, I wake up, I post roll and I embrace my quit. Not for my wife, my 2 kids or anyone else (although they are beyond important to me) but for myself. You have to want it for yourself more than anything or it won't work.

I promise if you do that and you committ to this site and take it one day at a time, you will get over the hardest weeks of your life.

Proud to be quit with you.

[Kdip]

I am quit with you today KFD!!! One thing here though is we don't "TRY" to do the right thing!!!! We DO the RIGHT THING and quit for TODAY!!!! That's all you have to do... post your promise for today and today only. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here!!!! Welcome to the Suck!!! Get on over the live chat if you some help and encouragement!! You can DO this!!!! Quitting sucks in the beginning but is DAMN WELL WORTH it!!!!

[kkljinc]

Welcome Andy, touching story, and you can quit. I am day 15, and I would not have made it this far without this group. I encourage you to jump in with everything you got. Don't just dip your toe in the water. JUMP! Post roll everyday. Collect names and numbers from others. You can beat this shit, I QUIT with you today!!!!!!! Now hit the welcome center, post roll and read up!

[KFD222]

There have been alot of changes recently in my life,

a new shift at work
I have moved my family 3 times in the last year
I have lost loved ones and more losses are on the way
I have built a new home for my family.
I have not put tobacco in my body for 4 days

That last one by far was the one I never expected to hear with everything else going on.

My name is Andy, I am a firefighter/paramedic in a small suburb of Kansas City. I have chewed since high school, and our 20 year reunion is next year........(SHIT that is a long time. It tells you how much denial is around when that round tin of sin is in your back pocket.)

I still remember the moment it happened, I'm standing in R field shagging BP my freshman year of HS. A guy named TIM, who I thought was cool comes over and offers me a dip. I say "sure". I must have thought he was SUPER FUCKING BAD ASS because it did not phase me in the least when he contorted his body, shoved his hand down his spandex sliding shorts, and pulls out his fine cut wintergreen SKOAL that has been neighbor to his Jack Johnson for at least the last hour.

That was the moment that would change my life forever.

I'm sure most or ALL of you have similar stories to tell, but this one is mine.....there are alot of memories between the one above and the next one that will be forever associated with the tin of sin, but I am trying to associate some new ones now without it. And I'm sure Ill need some help.

This past Sunday, the 10th of March, was the last day I had a dip in my mouth. It was the ending of a normal, busy day. I had just picked up my oldest daughter from volleyball practice and we're headed home. It's after dinner so I of course have a cheekfull.

Me: How was practice?
Her: Oh, it was OK.......
Me: What do you mean......OK?
Her: Practice was fine, I'm just sad
Me: About volleyball??
Her: About what I've been sad about lately.

This is where my brain starts to shut off naturally, due to the fog of tobacco clouding my judgement. I know what is coming next. And I've fought against hearing it for so long it's second nature. But for some reason, I left my guard down for just long enough for it to get through. Maybe it was was how quickly it turned to tears, tears and almost sobbing from my strong, determined and fiesty 11 y/o girl.

Her: I don't want you die!!!!!
Me: (silence.....I don't want to lie anymore)

The rest of the short ride home was spent in silence, her wanting me to quit right there, me fighting with myself on how much I have hurt her and the rest of my family.

That night, after putting the chaw I had in my mouth in the trash, I told her I would "try" to quit and I "meant" it. I didn't throw the can away immediately, I knew one of the biggest triggers would be the next morning, after breakfast sitting around the table at the firehouse.

The next day I knew I could still cave...........but I didn't. The can flew from my hands into the trash bin with relative ease.

So here I am......day 4, trying to do the right thing.......