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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2016, 10:46:00 AM »
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I have been meaning to update this intro for quite some time. I am now at day 379 and am thankful to be quit with all of you. There has been a string of cavers in the last few days and it got me to reflecting on the hard times my wife and I have been going through since the fall of last year. I am not writing this to gloat. It is rather an example to show that with a little hard work, humility, patience, and trust we "addicts" CAN weather many of the shitty things life can bring our way AND STAY QUIT. Here goes.

My wife and I have been trying to have a baby since about a year after our marriage in 2011 with no success. We have been through the gauntlet of fertility testing and have learned our chances are very slim of conceiving naturally. Fertility treatments are just too expensive and IMO a crapshoot. We continue to try and month after month we try to remain patient and hopeful, but nothing yet. Late last fall, my wife went to the doctor due to chronic fatigue and some pretty bad allergy symptoms. She was sent to the ENT specialist who discovered two things. First, she was born with a bit of a deformity in her nasal cavity that would need to be surgically corrected to open her airway. Second, they found a small lump in her neck region. After an MRI followed by a biopsy, they determined it was thyroid cancer.

My thoughts at this point. Seriously? She just turned 36, has not smoked a cigarette in her life, is in great health and is very active. How can this be? She is everything to me. What are we going to do?

We remained as optimistic as possible through the weeks of testing leading up to the day of the diagnosis, but this really shook both us to the core. Next came the surgery. They removed half of her thyroid and she was on bed rest for a while. Fortunately, the surgery went off without a hitch. Next we scheduled the second surgery (to correct her nasal deformity). The week before her surgery, just before Christmas my parents gave us their old (gently used) refrigerator. I tried to save a few bucks and install it myself. Well, I missed one minor detail during the process. The water line was leaking. This leak went on for days before we found a puddle on our basement floor. Water had leaked all through our hardwood floor in the kitchen (lifting the floorboards), parts of the drywall in two other rooms, and some tile. We would be living with our house under construction for months to come. Harwood floors, cabinets, drywall, tile, all to be replaced.

Wow... Seriously? At this point, I am still trying to remain optimistic and tell my wife "there isn't much more that could possibly come our way. Things would have to begin to swing back in our favor. Right?" It wasn't easy. Did I think about dip at times? You bet your ass I did! Did I crave it and take a bit of a longer look at the Grizzly and Kodiak signs when filling up? Yep!

Next came the second surgery. It went as well as could be expected. The recovery time was a bit longer than the initial surgery. Then there were all the follow-up appointments. It turned out my wife was cancer free and her nose was healing nicely. She would soon be able to breathe much better and her massive nose was reduced in size making her that much more beautiful. About a month later, I get a call from my wife on my way home from work. She is crying and hysterical. She has just totaled her SUV on one of the major freeways in the area. She was really distraught and it scared the hell out of me. Luckily she was not seriously hurt, but the emotional roller coaster of this string of events had taken its toll and she finally broke. I could only hold her in my arms when she came home that day in one piece. Words just wouldn't do. She was inconsolable. I felt like our lives were spiraling completely out of control and there was very little we could do about it. I was holding up alright given the circumstances, but my wife just couldn't handle another thing. Thank God that incident marked the end of the 6 months of hell in Mr. and Mrs. Randall's lives.

Final tally of problems.
1.) Infertility
2.) Wife had cancer and just had surgery
3.) A second invasive surgery
4.) Severe water damage and all the ongoing problems intrinsic to the remodeling
5.) My wife's near death experience.

There is a lot to take from this. Yes, life can be a real bitch at times. Honestly though, these experiences aren't shit compared to others I have read about here and personally seen people go through (suicide, sudden death of loved ones, divorce, loss of custody of children, debilitating diseases, violence, sexual abuse, etc.) We have been lucky. More importantly, the way we leaned on each other and tried our best to stay optimistic through the surmounting number of problems thrown our way is what I am the most proud of. I think people do their best work when pushed to their absolute limit. People have the ability to dig down just a little bit deeper and find that inner strength, humility, patience, trust, etc. necessary to weather the storm. I so easily could have stopped and picked up a tin at any time. The temptation was there more than once, believe me on that. I didn't though. I value my wonderful wife, my integrity, and my relationships with my brothers and sisters here at KTC way too much to go back to that shit! Bottom line... it would not have helped in any way to cave. It would have done the exact opposite. Adding nic back to my life may have just been the straw that broke the camelÂ’s back. I don't even want to think about the consequences of that choice.

Today my wife and I continue to try to start a family, she is still cancer free, and we are working together to build her confidence in driving the freeways again. Although living in a tore up house is a major PITA, the house is going to look great when the work is done.
I hope quitters come across this post and think about how you will react when similar challenges come your way. Don't kid yourself... if these kinds of problems have not come your way yet, they will eventually. Life happens to us all. Will you give up the fight? Will you decide a dip will make it easier to weather the storm? I have read countless times on this site "one problem + nicotine = two problems". How many problems will you and your loved ones be prepared to deal with? Will you be selfish enough to add ONE MORE?

QLF with you all today!
Wow, although I was aware of all those trials you guys went through, it's shocking to see them piled in one place. You are a class act Randy and I know that whatever is thrown at you guys, you will come out on top. I just can't help but feel that this summer and fall will have you looking back on this stuff from a whole new place. Thanks for sharing this and helping put things in perspective.
Thanks for sharing.
Sometimes its hard to see blessings in the middle of the storm.
Yours is a light house.
I quit with you today.
Rawls 493
You're awesome Rand. Thanks for that look at holding it all together
All I can say is 'wow' and congratulate you on holding yourself together through these trials and tribulations because most would buckle under the pressure.
First of all I would like to say congratulations on having such a loving relationship with your wife, that in itself is priceless. Don't give up on a baby, took my sister 11 year's. Look at it like this, really the only way to look IMO, God always knows best! What if she had gotten pregnant before the horrendous wreck and lost the baby? We sometimes don't see all the little reasons as to why things do or don't happen. You have a beautiful wife and from what I just read you see the important things in life, being thankful for what you have and not worrying about what you don't. You're a great friend and brother, stay strong but remember if it's meant to happen it will but there's also alot of little babies out there looking for such loving parents as I'm sure you two will be!
Tobacco is so addictive it took me a year after a massive heart attack, in which doctor confirmed caused from dipping to finally put a lid on the bitch! ODAAT EDD

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2016, 02:24:00 AM »
Quote from: ChickDip
Quote from: Rawls
Quote from: danojeno
Quote from: Randall
I have been meaning to update this intro for quite some time. I am now at day 379 and am thankful to be quit with all of you. There has been a string of cavers in the last few days and it got me to reflecting on the hard times my wife and I have been going through since the fall of last year. I am not writing this to gloat. It is rather an example to show that with a little hard work, humility, patience, and trust we "addicts" CAN weather many of the shitty things life can bring our way AND STAY QUIT. Here goes.

My wife and I have been trying to have a baby since about a year after our marriage in 2011 with no success. We have been through the gauntlet of fertility testing and have learned our chances are very slim of conceiving naturally. Fertility treatments are just too expensive and IMO a crapshoot. We continue to try and month after month we try to remain patient and hopeful, but nothing yet. Late last fall, my wife went to the doctor due to chronic fatigue and some pretty bad allergy symptoms. She was sent to the ENT specialist who discovered two things. First, she was born with a bit of a deformity in her nasal cavity that would need to be surgically corrected to open her airway. Second, they found a small lump in her neck region. After an MRI followed by a biopsy, they determined it was thyroid cancer.

My thoughts at this point. Seriously? She just turned 36, has not smoked a cigarette in her life, is in great health and is very active. How can this be? She is everything to me. What are we going to do?

We remained as optimistic as possible through the weeks of testing leading up to the day of the diagnosis, but this really shook both us to the core. Next came the surgery. They removed half of her thyroid and she was on bed rest for a while. Fortunately, the surgery went off without a hitch. Next we scheduled the second surgery (to correct her nasal deformity). The week before her surgery, just before Christmas my parents gave us their old (gently used) refrigerator. I tried to save a few bucks and install it myself. Well, I missed one minor detail during the process. The water line was leaking. This leak went on for days before we found a puddle on our basement floor. Water had leaked all through our hardwood floor in the kitchen (lifting the floorboards), parts of the drywall in two other rooms, and some tile. We would be living with our house under construction for months to come. Harwood floors, cabinets, drywall, tile, all to be replaced.

Wow... Seriously? At this point, I am still trying to remain optimistic and tell my wife "there isn't much more that could possibly come our way. Things would have to begin to swing back in our favor. Right?" It wasn't easy. Did I think about dip at times? You bet your ass I did! Did I crave it and take a bit of a longer look at the Grizzly and Kodiak signs when filling up? Yep!

Next came the second surgery. It went as well as could be expected. The recovery time was a bit longer than the initial surgery. Then there were all the follow-up appointments. It turned out my wife was cancer free and her nose was healing nicely. She would soon be able to breathe much better and her massive nose was reduced in size making her that much more beautiful. About a month later, I get a call from my wife on my way home from work. She is crying and hysterical. She has just totaled her SUV on one of the major freeways in the area. She was really distraught and it scared the hell out of me. Luckily she was not seriously hurt, but the emotional roller coaster of this string of events had taken its toll and she finally broke. I could only hold her in my arms when she came home that day in one piece. Words just wouldn't do. She was inconsolable. I felt like our lives were spiraling completely out of control and there was very little we could do about it. I was holding up alright given the circumstances, but my wife just couldn't handle another thing. Thank God that incident marked the end of the 6 months of hell in Mr. and Mrs. Randall's lives.

Final tally of problems.
1.) Infertility
2.) Wife had cancer and just had surgery
3.) A second invasive surgery
4.) Severe water damage and all the ongoing problems intrinsic to the remodeling
5.) My wife's near death experience.

There is a lot to take from this. Yes, life can be a real bitch at times. Honestly though, these experiences aren't shit compared to others I have read about here and personally seen people go through (suicide, sudden death of loved ones, divorce, loss of custody of children, debilitating diseases, violence, sexual abuse, etc.) We have been lucky. More importantly, the way we leaned on each other and tried our best to stay optimistic through the surmounting number of problems thrown our way is what I am the most proud of. I think people do their best work when pushed to their absolute limit. People have the ability to dig down just a little bit deeper and find that inner strength, humility, patience, trust, etc. necessary to weather the storm. I so easily could have stopped and picked up a tin at any time. The temptation was there more than once, believe me on that. I didn't though. I value my wonderful wife, my integrity, and my relationships with my brothers and sisters here at KTC way too much to go back to that shit! Bottom line... it would not have helped in any way to cave. It would have done the exact opposite. Adding nic back to my life may have just been the straw that broke the camelÂ’s back. I don't even want to think about the consequences of that choice.

Today my wife and I continue to try to start a family, she is still cancer free, and we are working together to build her confidence in driving the freeways again. Although living in a tore up house is a major PITA, the house is going to look great when the work is done.
I hope quitters come across this post and think about how you will react when similar challenges come your way. Don't kid yourself... if these kinds of problems have not come your way yet, they will eventually. Life happens to us all. Will you give up the fight? Will you decide a dip will make it easier to weather the storm? I have read countless times on this site "one problem + nicotine = two problems". How many problems will you and your loved ones be prepared to deal with? Will you be selfish enough to add ONE MORE?

QLF with you all today!
Wow, although I was aware of all those trials you guys went through, it's shocking to see them piled in one place. You are a class act Randy and I know that whatever is thrown at you guys, you will come out on top. I just can't help but feel that this summer and fall will have you looking back on this stuff from a whole new place. Thanks for sharing this and helping put things in perspective.
Thanks for sharing.
Sometimes its hard to see blessings in the middle of the storm.
Yours is a light house.
I quit with you today.
Rawls 493
You're awesome Rand. Thanks for that look at holding it all together
All I can say is 'wow' and congratulate you on holding yourself together through these trials and tribulations because most would buckle under the pressure.

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2016, 02:01:00 AM »
Quote from: Rawls
Quote from: danojeno
Quote from: Randall
I have been meaning to update this intro for quite some time. I am now at day 379 and am thankful to be quit with all of you. There has been a string of cavers in the last few days and it got me to reflecting on the hard times my wife and I have been going through since the fall of last year. I am not writing this to gloat. It is rather an example to show that with a little hard work, humility, patience, and trust we "addicts" CAN weather many of the shitty things life can bring our way AND STAY QUIT. Here goes.

My wife and I have been trying to have a baby since about a year after our marriage in 2011 with no success. We have been through the gauntlet of fertility testing and have learned our chances are very slim of conceiving naturally. Fertility treatments are just too expensive and IMO a crapshoot. We continue to try and month after month we try to remain patient and hopeful, but nothing yet. Late last fall, my wife went to the doctor due to chronic fatigue and some pretty bad allergy symptoms. She was sent to the ENT specialist who discovered two things. First, she was born with a bit of a deformity in her nasal cavity that would need to be surgically corrected to open her airway. Second, they found a small lump in her neck region. After an MRI followed by a biopsy, they determined it was thyroid cancer.

My thoughts at this point. Seriously? She just turned 36, has not smoked a cigarette in her life, is in great health and is very active. How can this be? She is everything to me. What are we going to do?

We remained as optimistic as possible through the weeks of testing leading up to the day of the diagnosis, but this really shook both us to the core. Next came the surgery. They removed half of her thyroid and she was on bed rest for a while. Fortunately, the surgery went off without a hitch. Next we scheduled the second surgery (to correct her nasal deformity). The week before her surgery, just before Christmas my parents gave us their old (gently used) refrigerator. I tried to save a few bucks and install it myself. Well, I missed one minor detail during the process. The water line was leaking. This leak went on for days before we found a puddle on our basement floor. Water had leaked all through our hardwood floor in the kitchen (lifting the floorboards), parts of the drywall in two other rooms, and some tile. We would be living with our house under construction for months to come. Harwood floors, cabinets, drywall, tile, all to be replaced.

Wow... Seriously? At this point, I am still trying to remain optimistic and tell my wife "there isn't much more that could possibly come our way. Things would have to begin to swing back in our favor. Right?" It wasn't easy. Did I think about dip at times? You bet your ass I did! Did I crave it and take a bit of a longer look at the Grizzly and Kodiak signs when filling up? Yep!

Next came the second surgery. It went as well as could be expected. The recovery time was a bit longer than the initial surgery. Then there were all the follow-up appointments. It turned out my wife was cancer free and her nose was healing nicely. She would soon be able to breathe much better and her massive nose was reduced in size making her that much more beautiful. About a month later, I get a call from my wife on my way home from work. She is crying and hysterical. She has just totaled her SUV on one of the major freeways in the area. She was really distraught and it scared the hell out of me. Luckily she was not seriously hurt, but the emotional roller coaster of this string of events had taken its toll and she finally broke. I could only hold her in my arms when she came home that day in one piece. Words just wouldn't do. She was inconsolable. I felt like our lives were spiraling completely out of control and there was very little we could do about it. I was holding up alright given the circumstances, but my wife just couldn't handle another thing. Thank God that incident marked the end of the 6 months of hell in Mr. and Mrs. Randall's lives.

Final tally of problems.
1.) Infertility
2.) Wife had cancer and just had surgery
3.) A second invasive surgery
4.) Severe water damage and all the ongoing problems intrinsic to the remodeling
5.) My wife's near death experience.

There is a lot to take from this. Yes, life can be a real bitch at times. Honestly though, these experiences aren't shit compared to others I have read about here and personally seen people go through (suicide, sudden death of loved ones, divorce, loss of custody of children, debilitating diseases, violence, sexual abuse, etc.) We have been lucky. More importantly, the way we leaned on each other and tried our best to stay optimistic through the surmounting number of problems thrown our way is what I am the most proud of. I think people do their best work when pushed to their absolute limit. People have the ability to dig down just a little bit deeper and find that inner strength, humility, patience, trust, etc. necessary to weather the storm. I so easily could have stopped and picked up a tin at any time. The temptation was there more than once, believe me on that. I didn't though. I value my wonderful wife, my integrity, and my relationships with my brothers and sisters here at KTC way too much to go back to that shit! Bottom line... it would not have helped in any way to cave. It would have done the exact opposite. Adding nic back to my life may have just been the straw that broke the camelÂ’s back. I don't even want to think about the consequences of that choice.

Today my wife and I continue to try to start a family, she is still cancer free, and we are working together to build her confidence in driving the freeways again. Although living in a tore up house is a major PITA, the house is going to look great when the work is done.
I hope quitters come across this post and think about how you will react when similar challenges come your way. Don't kid yourself... if these kinds of problems have not come your way yet, they will eventually. Life happens to us all. Will you give up the fight? Will you decide a dip will make it easier to weather the storm? I have read countless times on this site "one problem + nicotine = two problems". How many problems will you and your loved ones be prepared to deal with? Will you be selfish enough to add ONE MORE?

QLF with you all today!
Wow, although I was aware of all those trials you guys went through, it's shocking to see them piled in one place. You are a class act Randy and I know that whatever is thrown at you guys, you will come out on top. I just can't help but feel that this summer and fall will have you looking back on this stuff from a whole new place. Thanks for sharing this and helping put things in perspective.
Thanks for sharing.
Sometimes its hard to see blessings in the middle of the storm.
Yours is a light house.
I quit with you today.
Rawls 493
You're awesome Rand. Thanks for that look at holding it all together
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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2016, 02:00:00 AM »
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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2016, 12:57:00 AM »
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Quote from: Randall
I have been meaning to update this intro for quite some time. I am now at day 379 and am thankful to be quit with all of you. There has been a string of cavers in the last few days and it got me to reflecting on the hard times my wife and I have been going through since the fall of last year. I am not writing this to gloat. It is rather an example to show that with a little hard work, humility, patience, and trust we "addicts" CAN weather many of the shitty things life can bring our way AND STAY QUIT. Here goes.

My wife and I have been trying to have a baby since about a year after our marriage in 2011 with no success. We have been through the gauntlet of fertility testing and have learned our chances are very slim of conceiving naturally. Fertility treatments are just too expensive and IMO a crapshoot. We continue to try and month after month we try to remain patient and hopeful, but nothing yet. Late last fall, my wife went to the doctor due to chronic fatigue and some pretty bad allergy symptoms. She was sent to the ENT specialist who discovered two things. First, she was born with a bit of a deformity in her nasal cavity that would need to be surgically corrected to open her airway. Second, they found a small lump in her neck region. After an MRI followed by a biopsy, they determined it was thyroid cancer.

My thoughts at this point. Seriously? She just turned 36, has not smoked a cigarette in her life, is in great health and is very active. How can this be? She is everything to me. What are we going to do?

We remained as optimistic as possible through the weeks of testing leading up to the day of the diagnosis, but this really shook both us to the core. Next came the surgery. They removed half of her thyroid and she was on bed rest for a while. Fortunately, the surgery went off without a hitch. Next we scheduled the second surgery (to correct her nasal deformity). The week before her surgery, just before Christmas my parents gave us their old (gently used) refrigerator. I tried to save a few bucks and install it myself. Well, I missed one minor detail during the process. The water line was leaking. This leak went on for days before we found a puddle on our basement floor. Water had leaked all through our hardwood floor in the kitchen (lifting the floorboards), parts of the drywall in two other rooms, and some tile. We would be living with our house under construction for months to come. Harwood floors, cabinets, drywall, tile, all to be replaced.

Wow... Seriously? At this point, I am still trying to remain optimistic and tell my wife "there isn't much more that could possibly come our way. Things would have to begin to swing back in our favor. Right?" It wasn't easy. Did I think about dip at times? You bet your ass I did! Did I crave it and take a bit of a longer look at the Grizzly and Kodiak signs when filling up? Yep!

Next came the second surgery. It went as well as could be expected. The recovery time was a bit longer than the initial surgery. Then there were all the follow-up appointments. It turned out my wife was cancer free and her nose was healing nicely. She would soon be able to breathe much better and her massive nose was reduced in size making her that much more beautiful. About a month later, I get a call from my wife on my way home from work. She is crying and hysterical. She has just totaled her SUV on one of the major freeways in the area. She was really distraught and it scared the hell out of me. Luckily she was not seriously hurt, but the emotional roller coaster of this string of events had taken its toll and she finally broke. I could only hold her in my arms when she came home that day in one piece. Words just wouldn't do. She was inconsolable. I felt like our lives were spiraling completely out of control and there was very little we could do about it. I was holding up alright given the circumstances, but my wife just couldn't handle another thing. Thank God that incident marked the end of the 6 months of hell in Mr. and Mrs. Randall's lives.

Final tally of problems.
1.) Infertility
2.) Wife had cancer and just had surgery
3.) A second invasive surgery
4.) Severe water damage and all the ongoing problems intrinsic to the remodeling
5.) My wife's near death experience.

There is a lot to take from this. Yes, life can be a real bitch at times. Honestly though, these experiences aren't shit compared to others I have read about here and personally seen people go through (suicide, sudden death of loved ones, divorce, loss of custody of children, debilitating diseases, violence, sexual abuse, etc.) We have been lucky. More importantly, the way we leaned on each other and tried our best to stay optimistic through the surmounting number of problems thrown our way is what I am the most proud of. I think people do their best work when pushed to their absolute limit. People have the ability to dig down just a little bit deeper and find that inner strength, humility, patience, trust, etc. necessary to weather the storm. I so easily could have stopped and picked up a tin at any time. The temptation was there more than once, believe me on that. I didn't though. I value my wonderful wife, my integrity, and my relationships with my brothers and sisters here at KTC way too much to go back to that shit! Bottom line... it would not have helped in any way to cave. It would have done the exact opposite. Adding nic back to my life may have just been the straw that broke the camelÂ’s back. I don't even want to think about the consequences of that choice.

Today my wife and I continue to try to start a family, she is still cancer free, and we are working together to build her confidence in driving the freeways again. Although living in a tore up house is a major PITA, the house is going to look great when the work is done.
I hope quitters come across this post and think about how you will react when similar challenges come your way. Don't kid yourself... if these kinds of problems have not come your way yet, they will eventually. Life happens to us all. Will you give up the fight? Will you decide a dip will make it easier to weather the storm? I have read countless times on this site "one problem + nicotine = two problems". How many problems will you and your loved ones be prepared to deal with? Will you be selfish enough to add ONE MORE?

QLF with you all today!
Wow, although I was aware of all those trials you guys went through, it's shocking to see them piled in one place. You are a class act Randy and I know that whatever is thrown at you guys, you will come out on top. I just can't help but feel that this summer and fall will have you looking back on this stuff from a whole new place. Thanks for sharing this and helping put things in perspective.
Thanks for sharing.
Sometimes its hard to see blessings in the middle of the storm.
Yours is a light house.
I quit with you today.
Rawls 493
I believe.....

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2016, 11:49:00 PM »
Quote from: Randall
I have been meaning to update this intro for quite some time. I am now at day 379 and am thankful to be quit with all of you. There has been a string of cavers in the last few days and it got me to reflecting on the hard times my wife and I have been going through since the fall of last year. I am not writing this to gloat. It is rather an example to show that with a little hard work, humility, patience, and trust we "addicts" CAN weather many of the shitty things life can bring our way AND STAY QUIT. Here goes.

My wife and I have been trying to have a baby since about a year after our marriage in 2011 with no success. We have been through the gauntlet of fertility testing and have learned our chances are very slim of conceiving naturally. Fertility treatments are just too expensive and IMO a crapshoot. We continue to try and month after month we try to remain patient and hopeful, but nothing yet. Late last fall, my wife went to the doctor due to chronic fatigue and some pretty bad allergy symptoms. She was sent to the ENT specialist who discovered two things. First, she was born with a bit of a deformity in her nasal cavity that would need to be surgically corrected to open her airway. Second, they found a small lump in her neck region. After an MRI followed by a biopsy, they determined it was thyroid cancer.

My thoughts at this point. Seriously? She just turned 36, has not smoked a cigarette in her life, is in great health and is very active. How can this be? She is everything to me. What are we going to do?

We remained as optimistic as possible through the weeks of testing leading up to the day of the diagnosis, but this really shook both us to the core. Next came the surgery. They removed half of her thyroid and she was on bed rest for a while. Fortunately, the surgery went off without a hitch. Next we scheduled the second surgery (to correct her nasal deformity). The week before her surgery, just before Christmas my parents gave us their old (gently used) refrigerator. I tried to save a few bucks and install it myself. Well, I missed one minor detail during the process. The water line was leaking. This leak went on for days before we found a puddle on our basement floor. Water had leaked all through our hardwood floor in the kitchen (lifting the floorboards), parts of the drywall in two other rooms, and some tile. We would be living with our house under construction for months to come. Harwood floors, cabinets, drywall, tile, all to be replaced.

Wow... Seriously? At this point, I am still trying to remain optimistic and tell my wife "there isn't much more that could possibly come our way. Things would have to begin to swing back in our favor. Right?" It wasn't easy. Did I think about dip at times? You bet your ass I did! Did I crave it and take a bit of a longer look at the Grizzly and Kodiak signs when filling up? Yep!

Next came the second surgery. It went as well as could be expected. The recovery time was a bit longer than the initial surgery. Then there were all the follow-up appointments. It turned out my wife was cancer free and her nose was healing nicely. She would soon be able to breathe much better and her massive nose was reduced in size making her that much more beautiful. About a month later, I get a call from my wife on my way home from work. She is crying and hysterical. She has just totaled her SUV on one of the major freeways in the area. She was really distraught and it scared the hell out of me. Luckily she was not seriously hurt, but the emotional roller coaster of this string of events had taken its toll and she finally broke. I could only hold her in my arms when she came home that day in one piece. Words just wouldn't do. She was inconsolable. I felt like our lives were spiraling completely out of control and there was very little we could do about it. I was holding up alright given the circumstances, but my wife just couldn't handle another thing. Thank God that incident marked the end of the 6 months of hell in Mr. and Mrs. Randall's lives.

Final tally of problems.
1.) Infertility
2.) Wife had cancer and just had surgery
3.) A second invasive surgery
4.) Severe water damage and all the ongoing problems intrinsic to the remodeling
5.) My wife's near death experience.

There is a lot to take from this. Yes, life can be a real bitch at times. Honestly though, these experiences aren't shit compared to others I have read about here and personally seen people go through (suicide, sudden death of loved ones, divorce, loss of custody of children, debilitating diseases, violence, sexual abuse, etc.) We have been lucky. More importantly, the way we leaned on each other and tried our best to stay optimistic through the surmounting number of problems thrown our way is what I am the most proud of. I think people do their best work when pushed to their absolute limit. People have the ability to dig down just a little bit deeper and find that inner strength, humility, patience, trust, etc. necessary to weather the storm. I so easily could have stopped and picked up a tin at any time. The temptation was there more than once, believe me on that. I didn't though. I value my wonderful wife, my integrity, and my relationships with my brothers and sisters here at KTC way too much to go back to that shit! Bottom line... it would not have helped in any way to cave. It would have done the exact opposite. Adding nic back to my life may have just been the straw that broke the camelÂ’s back. I don't even want to think about the consequences of that choice.

Today my wife and I continue to try to start a family, she is still cancer free, and we are working together to build her confidence in driving the freeways again. Although living in a tore up house is a major PITA, the house is going to look great when the work is done.
I hope quitters come across this post and think about how you will react when similar challenges come your way. Don't kid yourself... if these kinds of problems have not come your way yet, they will eventually. Life happens to us all. Will you give up the fight? Will you decide a dip will make it easier to weather the storm? I have read countless times on this site "one problem + nicotine = two problems". How many problems will you and your loved ones be prepared to deal with? Will you be selfish enough to add ONE MORE?

QLF with you all today!
Wow, although I was aware of all those trials you guys went through, it's shocking to see them piled in one place. You are a class act Randy and I know that whatever is thrown at you guys, you will come out on top. I just can't help but feel that this summer and fall will have you looking back on this stuff from a whole new place. Thanks for sharing this and helping put things in perspective.

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2016, 11:38:00 PM »
I have been meaning to update this intro for quite some time. I am now at day 379 and am thankful to be quit with all of you. There has been a string of cavers in the last few days and it got me to reflecting on the hard times my wife and I have been going through since the fall of last year. I am not writing this to gloat. It is rather an example to show that with a little hard work, humility, patience, and trust we "addicts" CAN weather many of the shitty things life can bring our way AND STAY QUIT. Here goes.

My wife and I have been trying to have a baby since about a year after our marriage in 2011 with no success. We have been through the gauntlet of fertility testing and have learned our chances are very slim of conceiving naturally. Fertility treatments are just too expensive and IMO a crapshoot. We continue to try and month after month we try to remain patient and hopeful, but nothing yet. Late last fall, my wife went to the doctor due to chronic fatigue and some pretty bad allergy symptoms. She was sent to the ENT specialist who discovered two things. First, she was born with a bit of a deformity in her nasal cavity that would need to be surgically corrected to open her airway. Second, they found a small lump in her neck region. After an MRI followed by a biopsy, they determined it was thyroid cancer.

My thoughts at this point. Seriously? She just turned 36, has not smoked a cigarette in her life, is in great health and is very active. How can this be? She is everything to me. What are we going to do?

We remained as optimistic as possible through the weeks of testing leading up to the day of the diagnosis, but this really shook both us to the core. Next came the surgery. They removed half of her thyroid and she was on bed rest for a while. Fortunately, the surgery went off without a hitch. Next we scheduled the second surgery (to correct her nasal deformity). The week before her surgery, just before Christmas my parents gave us their old (gently used) refrigerator. I tried to save a few bucks and install it myself. Well, I missed one minor detail during the process. The water line was leaking. This leak went on for days before we found a puddle on our basement floor. Water had leaked all through our hardwood floor in the kitchen (lifting the floorboards), parts of the drywall in two other rooms, and some tile. We would be living with our house under construction for months to come. Harwood floors, cabinets, drywall, tile, all to be replaced.

Wow... Seriously? At this point, I am still trying to remain optimistic and tell my wife "there isn't much more that could possibly come our way. Things would have to begin to swing back in our favor. Right?" It wasn't easy. Did I think about dip at times? You bet your ass I did! Did I crave it and take a bit of a longer look at the Grizzly and Kodiak signs when filling up? Yep!

Next came the second surgery. It went as well as could be expected. The recovery time was a bit longer than the initial surgery. Then there were all the follow-up appointments. It turned out my wife was cancer free and her nose was healing nicely. She would soon be able to breathe much better and her massive nose was reduced in size making her that much more beautiful. About a month later, I get a call from my wife on my way home from work. She is crying and hysterical. She has just totaled her SUV on one of the major freeways in the area. She was really distraught and it scared the hell out of me. Luckily she was not seriously hurt, but the emotional roller coaster of this string of events had taken its toll and she finally broke. I could only hold her in my arms when she came home that day in one piece. Words just wouldn't do. She was inconsolable. I felt like our lives were spiraling completely out of control and there was very little we could do about it. I was holding up alright given the circumstances, but my wife just couldn't handle another thing. Thank God that incident marked the end of the 6 months of hell in Mr. and Mrs. Randall's lives.

Final tally of problems.
1.) Infertility
2.) Wife had cancer and just had surgery
3.) A second invasive surgery
4.) Severe water damage and all the ongoing problems intrinsic to the remodeling
5.) My wife's near death experience.

There is a lot to take from this. Yes, life can be a real bitch at times. Honestly though, these experiences aren't shit compared to others I have read about here and personally seen people go through (suicide, sudden death of loved ones, divorce, loss of custody of children, debilitating diseases, violence, sexual abuse, etc.) We have been lucky. More importantly, the way we leaned on each other and tried our best to stay optimistic through the surmounting number of problems thrown our way is what I am the most proud of. I think people do their best work when pushed to their absolute limit. People have the ability to dig down just a little bit deeper and find that inner strength, humility, patience, trust, etc. necessary to weather the storm. I so easily could have stopped and picked up a tin at any time. The temptation was there more than once, believe me on that. I didn't though. I value my wonderful wife, my integrity, and my relationships with my brothers and sisters here at KTC way too much to go back to that shit! Bottom line... it would not have helped in any way to cave. It would have done the exact opposite. Adding nic back to my life may have just been the straw that broke the camelÂ’s back. I don't even want to think about the consequences of that choice.

Today my wife and I continue to try to start a family, she is still cancer free, and we are working together to build her confidence in driving the freeways again. Although living in a tore up house is a major PITA, the house is going to look great when the work is done.
I hope quitters come across this post and think about how you will react when similar challenges come your way. Don't kid yourself... if these kinds of problems have not come your way yet, they will eventually. Life happens to us all. Will you give up the fight? Will you decide a dip will make it easier to weather the storm? I have read countless times on this site "one problem + nicotine = two problems". How many problems will you and your loved ones be prepared to deal with? Will you be selfish enough to add ONE MORE?

QLF with you all today!

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2016, 07:42:00 AM »
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Rand, one of the best people on here, glad I met you and glad I wondered into live chat almost a year ago.

You are one badass quitter dude/goon.

Thanks for everything. It is appreciated.

Way to rock 1 year!

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2016, 12:43:00 AM »
Rand, one of the best people on here, glad I met you and glad I wondered into live chat almost a year ago.

You are one badass quitter dude/goon.

Thanks for everything. It is appreciated.

Way to rock 1 year!

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2016, 10:35:00 PM »
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Congratulations on 300!
Congratulations! You're one fine ass quitter! I wanna be just like you when I grow up! It's a pleasure having you in my quit corner! Quit on!
Proud to be quit with you EDD, Randall!!

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2016, 05:21:00 PM »
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Congratulations on 300!
Congratulations! You're one fine ass quitter! I wanna be just like you when I grow up! It's a pleasure having you in my quit corner! Quit on!
Tobacco is so addictive it took me a year after a massive heart attack, in which doctor confirmed caused from dipping to finally put a lid on the bitch! ODAAT EDD

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2016, 06:52:00 AM »
Congratulations on 300!

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2015, 08:34:00 PM »
Rand, what can I say? I can say you have always been there for me since my day 1.
I was a mess that day and many after that, but thanks to all the live chat boys, I have made it this far.

Congrat s on your day 100 and to every +1 after that.

Peace to one of my linkage bros!
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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 10:33:00 PM »
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Randall's Update:

Raider asked that I be sure to mention the bad parts of the quit in these updates as well. Here goes.

I am now 43 days quit and two weeks more successful than I have ever been in choking the nic bitch. I would like to say it has been getting progressively easier since my last update(around day 20), but truth be told, I had a nearly catastrophic setback around day 30ish. I won't single anyone out, but I had a really hard time accepting a couple quitters coming into our June group and riding us all weekend over some stuff that they knew next to nothing about within our group. I got pretty worked up and defensive when they wouldnt leave. I became pretty disenfranchised when I realized it is acceptable and even encouraged on KTC for quitters with more days under their belt to harass relatively new quitters still struggling in their quits pretty bad I viewed these antics as messing with some guys quits which could leave to caves. I did not see the benefit in it for myself and others in my group. I did understand how the harassment benefitted the few guys who were bored with their quit and needed some entertainment. However, the principle of possibly losing several active, newer devoted quitters, for the sake of a couple guys entertaining themselves and releasing their boredom prior to reaching the HOF was not something I could wrap my head around.

Thanks to extra effort of a couple of my Goon brothers and several vets genuinely invested the best for KTC, quit groups, and individual quitters I was refocused on the big picture and the reason we are all here. We are here for the quit. The promise and accountability which together = success. Disagreement with a couple individuals and even a principle of the site was was no reason to try it on my own and leave my June brothers with one less guy there in the trenches with them day in and day out. I swallowed my pride and walked back in with tail tucked between legs. While my hiatus in contemplating leaving was not even 48 hours, that time seemed like an eternity and was not easy. I learned the importance of using the tools that are useful for me (which there a plenty of), and to leave the rest.

I want to personally thank Raider, Cando, and Haws for their extra efforts in getting my head straight and reminding me what is most important. Without these guys I would be gone and possibly romanticizing with Nicci. Also, thanks to Dano and Deerhunter for checking in during my hiatus.
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Well done Randy.....Keep Quitting
Glad you're here Rand... been a definite help for me.
Quit with you, Randall. You are a part of my quit day EDD!

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Re: Randall's Quit
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2015, 06:41:00 PM »
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Randall's Update:

Raider asked that I be sure to mention the bad parts of the quit in these updates as well. Here goes.

I am now 43 days quit and two weeks more successful than I have ever been in choking the nic bitch. I would like to say it has been getting progressively easier since my last update(around day 20), but truth be told, I had a nearly catastrophic setback around day 30ish. I won't single anyone out, but I had a really hard time accepting a couple quitters coming into our June group and riding us all weekend over some stuff that they knew next to nothing about within our group. I got pretty worked up and defensive when they wouldnt leave. I became pretty disenfranchised when I realized it is acceptable and even encouraged on KTC for quitters with more days under their belt to harass relatively new quitters still struggling in their quits pretty bad I viewed these antics as messing with some guys quits which could leave to caves. I did not see the benefit in it for myself and others in my group. I did understand how the harassment benefitted the few guys who were bored with their quit and needed some entertainment. However, the principle of possibly losing several active, newer devoted quitters, for the sake of a couple guys entertaining themselves and releasing their boredom prior to reaching the HOF was not something I could wrap my head around.

Thanks to extra effort of a couple of my Goon brothers and several vets genuinely invested the best for KTC, quit groups, and individual quitters I was refocused on the big picture and the reason we are all here. We are here for the quit. The promise and accountability which together = success. Disagreement with a couple individuals and even a principle of the site was was no reason to try it on my own and leave my June brothers with one less guy there in the trenches with them day in and day out. I swallowed my pride and walked back in with tail tucked between legs. While my hiatus in contemplating leaving was not even 48 hours, that time seemed like an eternity and was not easy. I learned the importance of using the tools that are useful for me (which there a plenty of), and to leave the rest.

I want to personally thank Raider, Cando, and Haws for their extra efforts in getting my head straight and reminding me what is most important. Without these guys I would be gone and possibly romanticizing with Nicci. Also, thanks to Dano and Deerhunter for checking in during my hiatus.
:Winner:
Proud of YOU Today.
ODAAT and NAFAR
Well done Randy.....Keep Quitting
Glad you're here Rand... been a definite help for me.
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Try to believe that you are worth more than you think, and others are worth more than you think.
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