Sick of the B.S

[Mikey]

That guy is an idiot. He thinks that the government has a cure to cancer and they are keeping it secret because of money. He has obviously never had to deal with cancer in his family. There is a cure to some cancers. Stop using tobacco! Stop putting stuff into your body that causes it. His answers to his own claim are in his own words. The cure to cancer is to stop actively participating in lifestyles that cause it. What a dumbass.

I do not believe there will ever be a "cure" for cancer. Looking under a microscope, seeing the variations of one type of cancer, seeing the growing patterns that they have.

I see and hear it too many times, I look at the facts and my own work in the medical field. Cancer is not the same between two people, it does not effect them all the same, it does not grow the same in each person. There are similarities, but the differences are great. Oral cancer is not colon cancer, it cannot become breast cancer, it cannot become prostate cancer, it cannot become skin cancer. True some cancers can metastasize, at the same time there are many that cannot.

Their will not be a cure that will cover all cancers. There are many ways to battle specific cancers, there are cures for specific cancers, but there is not one treatment that can cover them all. If it was truly that simple, too many physicians would be risking their careers to save lives.

[cdforecheck]

That guy is an idiot. He thinks that the government has a cure to cancer and they are keeping it secret because of money. He has obviously never had to deal with cancer in his family. There is a cure to some cancers. Stop using tobacco! Stop putting stuff into your body that causes it. His answers to his own claim are in his own words. The cure to cancer is to stop actively participating in lifestyles that cause it. What a dumbass.

not only the cure for cancer is a money grab....tell my mother-in-law that as she fights ovarian cancer...and if it is such an easy habit to stop, i'd love to challenge him to video log the first 10 days of cold turkey ... he wouldn't do it he enjoys it too much (addicted and afraid he'll fail)

persimmonpal way to get this out there...

[sigma1570]

That guy is an idiot. He thinks that the government has a cure to cancer and they are keeping it secret because of money. He has obviously never had to deal with cancer in his family. There is a cure to some cancers. Stop using tobacco! Stop putting stuff into your body that causes it. His answers to his own claim are in his own words. The cure to cancer is to stop actively participating in lifestyles that cause it. What a dumbass.

[persimmonpal]

Man its nice to see some sane replies.. How can anyone, whether or not they are a dipper, not be outraged by this... Totally irresponsible on the part of Golf Digest..
I am glad I can vent in this forum, and actually get someone who knows what I am saying reply.. not the bozos on golfwrs.. I mean WTF is up with the delusional responses over there? 'bang head'

[Skoal Monster]

I can see the same addict rationalizations in that guy's response as I used to make. I guess G.D. has the right to show it, but why use the company slogan " a pinch is all it takes" Fuck UST, fuck golf and cancer digest, and fuck that dipping idiot. I hope he never has to rely on a health care professional to administer chemo to try to save him from cancer.

[Show]

I love the "it's a decision people make" angle. As though this decision is somehow made in a vacuum without UST and, apparently Golf Digest trying to glorify it - or at least downplay it as though it's no more harmful than chewing gum. Afterall, you could choke on that and die too.

Further, to insinuate, as he does, that the individuals decision has no impact on the lives of others is laughable. Let's ignore for a moment the effect on the immediate family, I wonder how many of the people who have had the misfortune of chewing related ailments have not had health insurance, or have had a diminished productivity at work. Both of these are social costs that everyone pays for. not just the guy "who made a choice".

[persimmonpal]

Man I cant believe that Golf Digest would publish something so irresponsible.. I am a regular poster on the site this link comes from, and I cant believe the response I got to my post from rookieblue7.. check it out..
Man I am pissed with Boo and Golf Digest


http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php ... try2140943

[persimmonpal]

Thanks for the positive thoughts everyone!

[Rkymtnman]

Amazing how many of the stories on here are dead similar.

I found this place almost a year ago now. KTC IS without a doubt, the reason I have been successful and if you let it - really get involved and understand how this place works - you'll have absolutely NO excuses and you will stay quit through ANYTHING life throws at you.

Congrats on a great decision. Get involved, stay close and post roll like it is your JOB.

[Bvurn]

Hey everybody.. my story is not a new one.. just turned 39 yesterday, been dipping since I was 13. Tried to quit many times, and really told myself I was going to be successful, but looking back I realize that I was doomed to fail because I dont think I ever really believed I would.. Like I was just taking a break or something.. sooner or later (usually sooner) I would tell myself that I could have just one after work, because I had been good.. then it was one before work and one after work, etc etc etc.. same old bullshit lies.
I feel so different now.. I truly am done with this bullshit.. I read a quote on here somewhere which was something "I am more afraid failing my quit than I am of dipping".. that pretty much sums it up.. I am not going back no way no how.
I work as a respiratory therapist, and have seen many patients with esophageal cancer, and patients with throat cancer, with trachs, ventilator dependent.. believe me fellas.. not where we want to be.. Well...
I tried to quit so many times, and am really thankful that I found this site.. I am about 3 weeks clean right now, and getting easier to deal with everyday.
Looking back on my 25+ years of dippin, I cant believe the lies I told myself, and the lame ass justifications I had to do another dip.. I would dip when my day was going shitty, because I told myself I was entitled, but I would also give myself a dip if my day was going great, to "celebrate"! How effed up is that? Dip in the morning, all day, dip at night.. One time recently my wife woke up at 3am and reached for the glass of water on the shelf above the bed, only she ended up with my spit glass.. man there's just no way I could apologize to her for that, as she was kneeling over the toilet and throwing up for 1/2 hour..
Here is the best little lie I told myself, which I can remember saying at least 5 years ago, and ever since.. When I was particularly worried about cancer, and being paranoid, I still talked myself into a dip with this doosy: "This dip isnt going to give you cancer, and if you already happen to have it, doing this dip wont matter anyway, so go ahead".. man thats messed up!
Anyway, I ordered some Smokey Mountain chew, and Hooch, and have been hitting them pretty hard.. My two favorites are the Hooch Spitfire , and the Smokey Mountain straight. Overall I like the Smokey Mountain a bit more, its closer to long cut than the Hooch. I highly recommend them.. after the nicotine addiction lessens, you still gotta deal with the situational jones, and the oral fixation. While these arent dip, they are pretty close, and will help you through a patch where you may want to run down to the store for a tin..
Anyway guys, like I said.. I am glad I found my way here.. I cant wait to make it to 100 days, then 200, 300 etc. I feel like I owe it to everybody in my quit group to stay strong and not cave, and I know they feel that responsibility towards me. I wont let myself, my family, or my quit brothers down.

Great Post "persimmonpal". I love how this site works. Just reading the post you wrote motivates me to stay quit even more. I can relate to every last single word of your post.

[bman50317]

Welcome and Congrats on a great decision!

[persimmonpal]

Hey everybody.. my story is not a new one.. just turned 39 yesterday, been dipping since I was 13. Tried to quit many times, and really told myself I was going to be successful, but looking back I realize that I was doomed to fail because I dont think I ever really believed I would.. Like I was just taking a break or something.. sooner or later (usually sooner) I would tell myself that I could have just one after work, because I had been good.. then it was one before work and one after work, etc etc etc.. same old bullshit lies.
I feel so different now.. I truly am done with this bullshit.. I read a quote on here somewhere which was something "I am more afraid failing my quit than I am of dipping".. that pretty much sums it up.. I am not going back no way no how.
I work as a respiratory therapist, and have seen many patients with esophageal cancer, and patients with throat cancer, with trachs, ventilator dependent.. believe me fellas.. not where we want to be.. Well...
I tried to quit so many times, and am really thankful that I found this site.. I am about 3 weeks clean right now, and getting easier to deal with everyday.
Looking back on my 25+ years of dippin, I cant believe the lies I told myself, and the lame ass justifications I had to do another dip.. I would dip when my day was going shitty, because I told myself I was entitled, but I would also give myself a dip if my day was going great, to "celebrate"! How effed up is that? Dip in the morning, all day, dip at night.. One time recently my wife woke up at 3am and reached for the glass of water on the shelf above the bed, only she ended up with my spit glass.. man there's just no way I could apologize to her for that, as she was kneeling over the toilet and throwing up for 1/2 hour..
Here is the best little lie I told myself, which I can remember saying at least 5 years ago, and ever since.. When I was particularly worried about cancer, and being paranoid, I still talked myself into a dip with this doosy: "This dip isnt going to give you cancer, and if you already happen to have it, doing this dip wont matter anyway, so go ahead".. man thats messed up!
Anyway, I ordered some Smokey Mountain chew, and Hooch, and have been hitting them pretty hard.. My two favorites are the Hooch Spitfire , and the Smokey Mountain straight. Overall I like the Smokey Mountain a bit more, its closer to long cut than the Hooch. I highly recommend them.. after the nicotine addiction lessens, you still gotta deal with the situational jones, and the oral fixation. While these arent dip, they are pretty close, and will help you through a patch where you may want to run down to the store for a tin..
Anyway guys, like I said.. I am glad I found my way here.. I cant wait to make it to 100 days, then 200, 300 etc. I feel like I owe it to everybody in my quit group to stay strong and not cave, and I know they feel that responsibility towards me. I wont let myself, my family, or my quit brothers down.