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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2013, 01:17:00 PM »
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I caved.

I was worried about this vacation to Tennessee. A 13 hour drive was far longer than I have had to deal with so far. Before I left I got on the site and read up so I could build a solid defense. Turns out I had no trouble at all driving all the way to Chattanooga. I felt as though I had just cleared another hurdle and I was confident in my quit. Two days later (today) me and Mrs Mellow drove to Nashville for the next part of our trip. We arrived, walked around a bit, and then I got a call from home.

My brother called to inform me that Dad wasn't feeling well and was taken to the hospital. It was discovered that he has a brain tumor. Completely blindsided with the worst news I have ever heard, I could only do one thing, start driving home.

After a couple hours I decided that if I was going to make it home I would need chew. I bought some and it sat in my lap for 100 miles or so. My concern for that dip or lack of it paled in comparison for my concern for my father. Somewhere in southern Illinios I open it and put it in. I felt guilt and shame, but these emotions weren't, and still aren't much compared to the worry I have for the old man right now.

It didn't taste like I remembered. I didn't really like it, actually. For 5 minutes I didn't feel anything. Then in a sudden wave I felt sick. Hot flashes, upset stomach, dizziness. Then I started having an anxiety attack. I had a small anxiety attack once. It was nothing like this. I drove a few more miles and stopped on the off ramp. The wife asked if I was Ok, I said no. She was worried. We got out and as I tried to catch my breath I told her what happened.

In chat people talk about closing the door. How was that possible? I didn't see a way that I would ever have a strong enough quit to "close the door". I always felt like I was 10 minutes away from caving. I told my wife about this and informed her that I, too, just closed the door there on some off ramp in Illinois. My tin is still sitting there.

We started driving about 10 minutes later and I'm just now feeling better. She asked me how I felt. Well, there's a loaded question. I'm worried sick about my Dad and our family right now. I feel guilt and shame because I posted 113 this morning and didn't keep my word. But what I told her was  "relief". I'm not worried about another cave anymore. She understood and I hope you do as well. Never again for any reason.

I want to be a part of this site. I want to be quit with everyone here and I want to help others in their struggle as well. I understand that you would question my word after what happened, but there is no need to question my respect for KTC and my desire to be a part of it.

Please say a prayer for my father. He is an amazing man. He will be very happy to hear what happened tonight.

This is me closing the door. Never again for any reason
I am sorry for your father and I will keep him in my prayers. However, I have seen many others here face issues that hit them just as hard. Did you not learn anything in your time here? 1) Who did you call or text before slowly killing yourself on your drive to see your sick father? 2) You posted roll, why not just honor your word and wait until tomorrow? You just threw away a lot, get over to Feb and post your day 1.


'bang head'
Is anyone concerned about this? Joe, did your dad's tumor go away when you lied to us and poisoned yourself with a big fatty on the ride home? Does integrity and honor mean nothing to you, to any of you? Closed the door my ass, you've wedged a cast iron anvil under it.
I am sorry to hear about your father.

So, this is what I see-

You got some terrible news. You are only 113 days out and still have urges. This news allowed you to justify to yourself that you could have a dip. I mean, why not, how else would anyone deal with this kind of news? This is why we get connected on this site- we text we call we do whatever is necessary to keep our quit.

The entire time you were driving you were justifying stopping at the store and making that purchase. It was all you were focused on- not your father-not your wife- just a can of chew. I know this because I am an ADDICT TOO and I have been there too. Guess what I did?? I took the time to talk to my wife about it- my biggest quit fan- and I posted roll so there was no stopping for that day.

I hope that you can close that door- but until you learn how to reach out for help when you are weak you will always find a way to talk yourself into some nicotine- until then all you can rely on is hope...
The post-HOF is a bad one, and it gets many a stopper.

As my friend J2B said years ago, "Quitters find a way to quit.".

I pray for your family, but that does not excuse your decision. (My other friend Sco says) "One problem + nicotine = 2 problems". You can't grow by taking a piece of you (your quit) away.

Nicotine is never, ever the answer. If you think it is, it is a lie.

You can do this.

(1) What happened?
(2) Why did it happen?
(3) What are you doing differently this time?
I remember writing to you the last time you caved that you needed to be so invloved with the site that your cave would be epic if you caved again.

1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.

Nothing illistrates this equation more than this cave. Errrr.
First I am very sorry to hear about your father. I have to ask explain to me where this can of death fit into the equation to make anything better? I get it if say for some reason by you dipping your dad would be able to walk out of the hospital but that is just not the case.

You better have grabbed onto the subtle messages that have been placed in your thread.

-WP used the word tripped up many a STOPPER n ScoDaddys formula.
-Dougie left the word HOPE. We know what hope buys you here on KTC.
-Sco Daddy left you his formula again and involvement.

You didn't burn the bridge and the piers when you left the bitch you left a glimmer for her (the NIC Bitch incase you don't know who I am referring to) to come get her slave.

This is what should happen for you in the future: You should have KTC on speed dial which means when you think a dip is going to solve all life's problems you reach out AKA pulling the trigger... did you call or text one brother/sister from the site? I saw no mention of it in your story. I know if I drove with a can on my lap for a 100 miles I would be spending the rest of the day trying to get it removed from my ass. I have INVOLVED (oh wait there is that word again) my girl in my quit and if she saw a can in my possession she would be there.

Aside from that if I for one minute ever thought that there was an error in Scodaddys formula the next step is reach to your phone that you have prepopulated with you quit brothers/sisters numbers and call text what have you. And if your phone is dead you have a few numbers in your wife's fone. JIC

Does this seem extreme? I say no its not, you want to live?

Now to illustrate Sco's formula one more time for the slow people in the crowd.

Here you are your dad still has a health issue. problem 1

you have admitted to a cave. problem 1
=2 problems accept you have added the second problem so instead of focusing ALL of your efforts on your father you are now fighting two battles.

You don't know me I don't know you but if you need a number PM me and my number is yours.
JoeMellow:

I am heartbroken. Never met you but your Avatar. USA Wrestling. WE are lovers of the sport and we are addicts. We have so much in common. It breaks me a little because I related to you.

I admired you and any quitter that makes it to the Hall is my hero.

Tough weekend. However, your dad was the validation but you didn't recognize the post hall of fame funk.

Still need to post every day and keep your word. I am so sorry about your dad. I don't know if it is better to have time to prepare for a dad's passing or be surprised by it.

6/6/6 At 8:30 in the morning, I got the call that my dad was killed in a roll over accident. My uncle was the driver and my dad was ejected after his head was crushed. It look like it was a terrible tragedy but my uncle was under the influence of alcohol.

With all that, I tried to be friends with alcohol. 13 days ago, I closed the door because some people can be friends with alcohol but I am not wired to get along with alcohol either.

I share this because I want you to know I feel the pains of what it must be like in that moment. You just wanted to get a little numb because the news is hard.

I also want you to deal with life on lifes terms! Freedom from vice isn't all sunshine. You will have to deal with some real shit and the nic bitch seduced you in a time that is just unbelievably selfish of her!

She is not your friend. She doesn't sympathize, empathize or care. Your brothers care and you could have called us and we could be on that drive with you and sit with you while you process. We are your friends.

I was in Nashville and picked up my son and drove all the way to SLC. 615 days and I saw a bunch of cans and my mouth watered. I was tempted to drink on my flight. I didn't and it was an awesome drive without the deception.

I feel for you. I really do. You got some news that distracted you from the understanding that you were in a post HOF funk and needed to call out for support.

Before buying a can, will you call a brother and asked them to just be with you for a minute. You will be surprised that a real friend beats any buzz nicotine can offer.

Failure is a stepping stone to success if you get back on the horse!. So what is done is done. Today is a quit day and a day to mend your fences of trust and just get through today.

Surrender and failure are different. Never surrender to nicotine. Fix the leak and right the ship. Get back on course please and redeem yourself as my hero again.
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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2013, 12:47:00 PM »
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Dougie
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Quote from: mcarmo44
Quote from: Joemellow
I caved.

I was worried about this vacation to Tennessee. A 13 hour drive was far longer than I have had to deal with so far. Before I left I got on the site and read up so I could build a solid defense. Turns out I had no trouble at all driving all the way to Chattanooga. I felt as though I had just cleared another hurdle and I was confident in my quit. Two days later (today) me and Mrs Mellow drove to Nashville for the next part of our trip. We arrived, walked around a bit, and then I got a call from home.

My brother called to inform me that Dad wasn't feeling well and was taken to the hospital. It was discovered that he has a brain tumor. Completely blindsided with the worst news I have ever heard, I could only do one thing, start driving home.

After a couple hours I decided that if I was going to make it home I would need chew. I bought some and it sat in my lap for 100 miles or so. My concern for that dip or lack of it paled in comparison for my concern for my father. Somewhere in southern Illinios I open it and put it in. I felt guilt and shame, but these emotions weren't, and still aren't much compared to the worry I have for the old man right now.

It didn't taste like I remembered. I didn't really like it, actually. For 5 minutes I didn't feel anything. Then in a sudden wave I felt sick. Hot flashes, upset stomach, dizziness. Then I started having an anxiety attack. I had a small anxiety attack once. It was nothing like this. I drove a few more miles and stopped on the off ramp. The wife asked if I was Ok, I said no. She was worried. We got out and as I tried to catch my breath I told her what happened.

In chat people talk about closing the door. How was that possible? I didn't see a way that I would ever have a strong enough quit to "close the door". I always felt like I was 10 minutes away from caving. I told my wife about this and informed her that I, too, just closed the door there on some off ramp in Illinois. My tin is still sitting there.

We started driving about 10 minutes later and I'm just now feeling better. She asked me how I felt. Well, there's a loaded question. I'm worried sick about my Dad and our family right now. I feel guilt and shame because I posted 113 this morning and didn't keep my word. But what I told her was  "relief". I'm not worried about another cave anymore. She understood and I hope you do as well. Never again for any reason.

I want to be a part of this site. I want to be quit with everyone here and I want to help others in their struggle as well. I understand that you would question my word after what happened, but there is no need to question my respect for KTC and my desire to be a part of it.

Please say a prayer for my father. He is an amazing man. He will be very happy to hear what happened tonight.

This is me closing the door. Never again for any reason
I am sorry for your father and I will keep him in my prayers. However, I have seen many others here face issues that hit them just as hard. Did you not learn anything in your time here? 1) Who did you call or text before slowly killing yourself on your drive to see your sick father? 2) You posted roll, why not just honor your word and wait until tomorrow? You just threw away a lot, get over to Feb and post your day 1.


'bang head'
Is anyone concerned about this? Joe, did your dad's tumor go away when you lied to us and poisoned yourself with a big fatty on the ride home? Does integrity and honor mean nothing to you, to any of you? Closed the door my ass, you've wedged a cast iron anvil under it.
I am sorry to hear about your father.

So, this is what I see-

You got some terrible news. You are only 113 days out and still have urges. This news allowed you to justify to yourself that you could have a dip. I mean, why not, how else would anyone deal with this kind of news? This is why we get connected on this site- we text we call we do whatever is necessary to keep our quit.

The entire time you were driving you were justifying stopping at the store and making that purchase. It was all you were focused on- not your father-not your wife- just a can of chew. I know this because I am an ADDICT TOO and I have been there too. Guess what I did?? I took the time to talk to my wife about it- my biggest quit fan- and I posted roll so there was no stopping for that day.

I hope that you can close that door- but until you learn how to reach out for help when you are weak you will always find a way to talk yourself into some nicotine- until then all you can rely on is hope...
The post-HOF is a bad one, and it gets many a stopper.

As my friend J2B said years ago, "Quitters find a way to quit.".

I pray for your family, but that does not excuse your decision. (My other friend Sco says) "One problem + nicotine = 2 problems". You can't grow by taking a piece of you (your quit) away.

Nicotine is never, ever the answer. If you think it is, it is a lie.

You can do this.

(1) What happened?
(2) Why did it happen?
(3) What are you doing differently this time?
I remember writing to you the last time you caved that you needed to be so invloved with the site that your cave would be epic if you caved again.

1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.

Nothing illistrates this equation more than this cave. Errrr.
First I am very sorry to hear about your father. I have to ask explain to me where this can of death fit into the equation to make anything better? I get it if say for some reason by you dipping your dad would be able to walk out of the hospital but that is just not the case.

You better have grabbed onto the subtle messages that have been placed in your thread.

-WP used the word tripped up many a STOPPER n ScoDaddys formula.
-Dougie left the word HOPE. We know what hope buys you here on KTC.
-Sco Daddy left you his formula again and involvement.

You didn't burn the bridge and the piers when you left the bitch you left a glimmer for her (the NIC Bitch incase you don't know who I am referring to) to come get her slave.

This is what should happen for you in the future: You should have KTC on speed dial which means when you think a dip is going to solve all life's problems you reach out AKA pulling the trigger... did you call or text one brother/sister from the site? I saw no mention of it in your story. I know if I drove with a can on my lap for a 100 miles I would be spending the rest of the day trying to get it removed from my ass. I have INVOLVED (oh wait there is that word again) my girl in my quit and if she saw a can in my possession she would be there.

Aside from that if I for one minute ever thought that there was an error in Scodaddys formula the next step is reach to your phone that you have prepopulated with you quit brothers/sisters numbers and call text what have you. And if your phone is dead you have a few numbers in your wife's fone. JIC

Does this seem extreme? I say no its not, you want to live?

Now to illustrate Sco's formula one more time for the slow people in the crowd.

Here you are your dad still has a health issue. problem 1

you have admitted to a cave. problem 1
=2 problems accept you have added the second problem so instead of focusing ALL of your efforts on your father you are now fighting two battles.

You don't know me I don't know you but if you need a number PM me and my number is yours.
Complacency sucks, one moment of it is the difference between being a user and a quitter....OIB

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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2013, 10:56:00 AM »
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Dougie
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Quote from: mcarmo44
Quote from: Joemellow
I caved.

I was worried about this vacation to Tennessee. A 13 hour drive was far longer than I have had to deal with so far. Before I left I got on the site and read up so I could build a solid defense. Turns out I had no trouble at all driving all the way to Chattanooga. I felt as though I had just cleared another hurdle and I was confident in my quit. Two days later (today) me and Mrs Mellow drove to Nashville for the next part of our trip. We arrived, walked around a bit, and then I got a call from home.

My brother called to inform me that Dad wasn't feeling well and was taken to the hospital. It was discovered that he has a brain tumor. Completely blindsided with the worst news I have ever heard, I could only do one thing, start driving home.

After a couple hours I decided that if I was going to make it home I would need chew. I bought some and it sat in my lap for 100 miles or so. My concern for that dip or lack of it paled in comparison for my concern for my father. Somewhere in southern Illinios I open it and put it in. I felt guilt and shame, but these emotions weren't, and still aren't much compared to the worry I have for the old man right now.

It didn't taste like I remembered. I didn't really like it, actually. For 5 minutes I didn't feel anything. Then in a sudden wave I felt sick. Hot flashes, upset stomach, dizziness. Then I started having an anxiety attack. I had a small anxiety attack once. It was nothing like this. I drove a few more miles and stopped on the off ramp. The wife asked if I was Ok, I said no. She was worried. We got out and as I tried to catch my breath I told her what happened.

In chat people talk about closing the door. How was that possible? I didn't see a way that I would ever have a strong enough quit to "close the door". I always felt like I was 10 minutes away from caving. I told my wife about this and informed her that I, too, just closed the door there on some off ramp in Illinois. My tin is still sitting there.

We started driving about 10 minutes later and I'm just now feeling better. She asked me how I felt. Well, there's a loaded question. I'm worried sick about my Dad and our family right now. I feel guilt and shame because I posted 113 this morning and didn't keep my word. But what I told her was  "relief". I'm not worried about another cave anymore. She understood and I hope you do as well. Never again for any reason.

I want to be a part of this site. I want to be quit with everyone here and I want to help others in their struggle as well. I understand that you would question my word after what happened, but there is no need to question my respect for KTC and my desire to be a part of it.

Please say a prayer for my father. He is an amazing man. He will be very happy to hear what happened tonight.

This is me closing the door. Never again for any reason
I am sorry for your father and I will keep him in my prayers. However, I have seen many others here face issues that hit them just as hard. Did you not learn anything in your time here? 1) Who did you call or text before slowly killing yourself on your drive to see your sick father? 2) You posted roll, why not just honor your word and wait until tomorrow? You just threw away a lot, get over to Feb and post your day 1.


'bang head'
Is anyone concerned about this? Joe, did your dad's tumor go away when you lied to us and poisoned yourself with a big fatty on the ride home? Does integrity and honor mean nothing to you, to any of you? Closed the door my ass, you've wedged a cast iron anvil under it.
I am sorry to hear about your father.

So, this is what I see-

You got some terrible news. You are only 113 days out and still have urges. This news allowed you to justify to yourself that you could have a dip. I mean, why not, how else would anyone deal with this kind of news? This is why we get connected on this site- we text we call we do whatever is necessary to keep our quit.

The entire time you were driving you were justifying stopping at the store and making that purchase. It was all you were focused on- not your father-not your wife- just a can of chew. I know this because I am an ADDICT TOO and I have been there too. Guess what I did?? I took the time to talk to my wife about it- my biggest quit fan- and I posted roll so there was no stopping for that day.

I hope that you can close that door- but until you learn how to reach out for help when you are weak you will always find a way to talk yourself into some nicotine- until then all you can rely on is hope...
The post-HOF is a bad one, and it gets many a stopper.

As my friend J2B said years ago, "Quitters find a way to quit.".

I pray for your family, but that does not excuse your decision. (My other friend Sco says) "One problem + nicotine = 2 problems". You can't grow by taking a piece of you (your quit) away.

Nicotine is never, ever the answer. If you think it is, it is a lie.

You can do this.

(1) What happened?
(2) Why did it happen?
(3) What are you doing differently this time?
I remember writing to you the last time you caved that you needed to be so invloved with the site that your cave would be epic if you caved again.

1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.

Nothing illistrates this equation more than this cave. Errrr.

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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2013, 10:18:00 AM »
Quote from: Dougie
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Quote from: mcarmo44
Quote from: Joemellow
I caved.

I was worried about this vacation to Tennessee. A 13 hour drive was far longer than I have had to deal with so far. Before I left I got on the site and read up so I could build a solid defense. Turns out I had no trouble at all driving all the way to Chattanooga. I felt as though I had just cleared another hurdle and I was confident in my quit. Two days later (today) me and Mrs Mellow drove to Nashville for the next part of our trip. We arrived, walked around a bit, and then I got a call from home.

My brother called to inform me that Dad wasn't feeling well and was taken to the hospital. It was discovered that he has a brain tumor. Completely blindsided with the worst news I have ever heard, I could only do one thing, start driving home.

After a couple hours I decided that if I was going to make it home I would need chew. I bought some and it sat in my lap for 100 miles or so. My concern for that dip or lack of it paled in comparison for my concern for my father. Somewhere in southern Illinios I open it and put it in. I felt guilt and shame, but these emotions weren't, and still aren't much compared to the worry I have for the old man right now.

It didn't taste like I remembered. I didn't really like it, actually. For 5 minutes I didn't feel anything. Then in a sudden wave I felt sick. Hot flashes, upset stomach, dizziness. Then I started having an anxiety attack. I had a small anxiety attack once. It was nothing like this. I drove a few more miles and stopped on the off ramp. The wife asked if I was Ok, I said no. She was worried. We got out and as I tried to catch my breath I told her what happened.

In chat people talk about closing the door. How was that possible? I didn't see a way that I would ever have a strong enough quit to "close the door". I always felt like I was 10 minutes away from caving. I told my wife about this and informed her that I, too, just closed the door there on some off ramp in Illinois. My tin is still sitting there.

We started driving about 10 minutes later and I'm just now feeling better. She asked me how I felt. Well, there's a loaded question. I'm worried sick about my Dad and our family right now. I feel guilt and shame because I posted 113 this morning and didn't keep my word. But what I told her was  "relief". I'm not worried about another cave anymore. She understood and I hope you do as well. Never again for any reason.

I want to be a part of this site. I want to be quit with everyone here and I want to help others in their struggle as well. I understand that you would question my word after what happened, but there is no need to question my respect for KTC and my desire to be a part of it.

Please say a prayer for my father. He is an amazing man. He will be very happy to hear what happened tonight.

This is me closing the door. Never again for any reason
I am sorry for your father and I will keep him in my prayers. However, I have seen many others here face issues that hit them just as hard. Did you not learn anything in your time here? 1) Who did you call or text before slowly killing yourself on your drive to see your sick father? 2) You posted roll, why not just honor your word and wait until tomorrow? You just threw away a lot, get over to Feb and post your day 1.


'bang head'
Is anyone concerned about this? Joe, did your dad's tumor go away when you lied to us and poisoned yourself with a big fatty on the ride home? Does integrity and honor mean nothing to you, to any of you? Closed the door my ass, you've wedged a cast iron anvil under it.
I am sorry to hear about your father.

So, this is what I see-

You got some terrible news. You are only 113 days out and still have urges. This news allowed you to justify to yourself that you could have a dip. I mean, why not, how else would anyone deal with this kind of news? This is why we get connected on this site- we text we call we do whatever is necessary to keep our quit.

The entire time you were driving you were justifying stopping at the store and making that purchase. It was all you were focused on- not your father-not your wife- just a can of chew. I know this because I am an ADDICT TOO and I have been there too. Guess what I did?? I took the time to talk to my wife about it- my biggest quit fan- and I posted roll so there was no stopping for that day.

I hope that you can close that door- but until you learn how to reach out for help when you are weak you will always find a way to talk yourself into some nicotine- until then all you can rely on is hope...
The post-HOF is a bad one, and it gets many a stopper.

As my friend J2B said years ago, "Quitters find a way to quit.".

I pray for your family, but that does not excuse your decision. (My other friend Sco says) "One problem + nicotine = 2 problems". You can't grow by taking a piece of you (your quit) away.

Nicotine is never, ever the answer. If you think it is, it is a lie.

You can do this.

(1) What happened?
(2) Why did it happen?
(3) What are you doing differently this time?
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 10:13:00 AM »
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Quote from: mcarmo44
Quote from: Joemellow
I caved.

I was worried about this vacation to Tennessee. A 13 hour drive was far longer than I have had to deal with so far. Before I left I got on the site and read up so I could build a solid defense. Turns out I had no trouble at all driving all the way to Chattanooga. I felt as though I had just cleared another hurdle and I was confident in my quit. Two days later (today) me and Mrs Mellow drove to Nashville for the next part of our trip. We arrived, walked around a bit, and then I got a call from home.

My brother called to inform me that Dad wasn't feeling well and was taken to the hospital. It was discovered that he has a brain tumor. Completely blindsided with the worst news I have ever heard, I could only do one thing, start driving home.

After a couple hours I decided that if I was going to make it home I would need chew. I bought some and it sat in my lap for 100 miles or so. My concern for that dip or lack of it paled in comparison for my concern for my father. Somewhere in southern Illinios I open it and put it in. I felt guilt and shame, but these emotions weren't, and still aren't much compared to the worry I have for the old man right now.

It didn't taste like I remembered. I didn't really like it, actually. For 5 minutes I didn't feel anything. Then in a sudden wave I felt sick. Hot flashes, upset stomach, dizziness. Then I started having an anxiety attack. I had a small anxiety attack once. It was nothing like this. I drove a few more miles and stopped on the off ramp. The wife asked if I was Ok, I said no. She was worried. We got out and as I tried to catch my breath I told her what happened.

In chat people talk about closing the door. How was that possible? I didn't see a way that I would ever have a strong enough quit to "close the door". I always felt like I was 10 minutes away from caving. I told my wife about this and informed her that I, too, just closed the door there on some off ramp in Illinois. My tin is still sitting there.

We started driving about 10 minutes later and I'm just now feeling better. She asked me how I felt. Well, there's a loaded question. I'm worried sick about my Dad and our family right now. I feel guilt and shame because I posted 113 this morning and didn't keep my word. But what I told her was  "relief". I'm not worried about another cave anymore. She understood and I hope you do as well. Never again for any reason.

I want to be a part of this site. I want to be quit with everyone here and I want to help others in their struggle as well. I understand that you would question my word after what happened, but there is no need to question my respect for KTC and my desire to be a part of it.

Please say a prayer for my father. He is an amazing man. He will be very happy to hear what happened tonight.

This is me closing the door. Never again for any reason
I am sorry for your father and I will keep him in my prayers. However, I have seen many others here face issues that hit them just as hard. Did you not learn anything in your time here? 1) Who did you call or text before slowly killing yourself on your drive to see your sick father? 2) You posted roll, why not just honor your word and wait until tomorrow? You just threw away a lot, get over to Feb and post your day 1.


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Is anyone concerned about this? Joe, did your dad's tumor go away when you lied to us and poisoned yourself with a big fatty on the ride home? Does integrity and honor mean nothing to you, to any of you? Closed the door my ass, you've wedged a cast iron anvil under it.
I am sorry to hear about your father.

So, this is what I see-

You got some terrible news. You are only 113 days out and still have urges. This news allowed you to justify to yourself that you could have a dip. I mean, why not, how else would anyone deal with this kind of news? This is why we get connected on this site- we text we call we do whatever is necessary to keep our quit.

The entire time you were driving you were justifying stopping at the store and making that purchase. It was all you were focused on- not your father-not your wife- just a can of chew. I know this because I am an ADDICT TOO and I have been there too. Guess what I did?? I took the time to talk to my wife about it- my biggest quit fan- and I posted roll so there was no stopping for that day.

I hope that you can close that door- but until you learn how to reach out for help when you are weak you will always find a way to talk yourself into some nicotine- until then all you can rely on is hope...

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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 09:36:00 PM »
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We roll out of Ohio and head over to pick up our next quitter in Gilbertville, Iowa, Joemellow. He is married with two little ones, 2 years and 11 months. Joe started dipping at 20 years old and he is a Firefighter/Paramedic. He plans to celebrate his 100 days with a steak and some Amber Bock. Joe enjoys lots of outdoor activities including Triathlons, rock climbing, snowboarding and yard work. Joe will be signing up 200 days and says "When staying quit seems too hard, just remember that someone out there is suffering through a more intense crave than you and he is still quit." When asked who inspired and helped him he said "There's been plenty of people help me along the way. Just a few would be Hjhlrool, dabean, suds, Scowick, Jhaenel, Detpack. They've all helped in some way."
Joe, I'm happy to have you in my group and I'm proud that you made it as a 100% poster. Way to lead by example. Thanks for being there for me.
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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 11:14:00 AM »
I like your style and quit with you today. Your Avatar kicks ass. My son just joined USA wrestling and made varsity his freshman year.

Congrats on making it to the HOF today. That is huge in your victory over vice!

You can only quit because you want to and you have demonstrated that YOU want to. Your wrestling team should be a motivator. I am sure those kids look at their coach and want to be like him. If they see a dip in your mouth, you are UST greatest sponsor! They don't even pay you, you pay them, and the kids that look up to you pay the price.

I hope that isn't too much of a lecture. I just love and respect my son's coach because he is a great example to my son. I am sure parents of your kids feel the same and appreciate you and quitting is another reason why they would have mad respect for you.

Quit on.
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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 10:28:00 AM »
Nice job brudda!
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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 09:12:00 AM »
We roll out of Ohio and head over to pick up our next quitter in Gilbertville, Iowa, Joemellow. He is married with two little ones, 2 years and 11 months. Joe started dipping at 20 years old and he is a Firefighter/Paramedic. He plans to celebrate his 100 days with a steak and some Amber Bock. Joe enjoys lots of outdoor activities including Triathlons, rock climbing, snowboarding and yard work. Joe will be signing up 200 days and says "When staying quit seems too hard, just remember that someone out there is suffering through a more intense crave than you and he is still quit." When asked who inspired and helped him he said "There's been plenty of people help me along the way. Just a few would be Hjhlrool, dabean, suds, Scowick, Jhaenel, Detpack. They've all helped in some way."
"If you want to quit then stop talking and just QUIT. If you want to kill yourself a bullet is cheaper and faster than a tin, plus it eliminates my hearing you whine and cry like a bitch."

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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2012, 06:13:00 PM »
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Quote from: Buddy
Quote from: Joemellow
I am quit.  I chewed for about 11 years. The longest quit I had was in boot camp = 2 months but didnt have a choice.  other than that = 13 days.  Number of attempts = who knows? triple digits I'm sure.

I live in Iowa, work for the Waterloo Fire Dept. 29 years old.  I hate that I tell those who I work with that I'm quitting only to have them catch me with chew a week later.  Married for 5 years. I hate that i tell my wife I quit only to get caught a week later.  I have a huge family. Same story.

I have goals. Lofty ones.  I work for them every day. I want to climb El Capitan. I want to complete an Iron Man. I want the wrestling team I coach to have more State Titles than any team in Iowa.  These are great goals that keep me moving, but they are not the most important.  MOST IMPORTANLY is my goal to quit the nic.

Along with this goal is quitting caffeine and anything else that ends in -ine. This includes methemphetamine. But since I've never seen it and have no idea where to buy it I dont think this will be a problem.

Day 1 - I am quit.
Great intro man. Good to have you. Get to know your September Quit brothers, they may save your life one day.. Great choice to live nic free
Welcome to the site. Everyday for me is like a new match. Using the KTC program, I am undefeated with my quit. 78 - 0 !

It feels good to be quit. Don't worry about your match tomorrow, only focus on today. It is a crazy journey but well worth being free. Each match you win and each day that goes by, you are more resolved to keep winning.

It is painful at times but the victories are sweet!
I second all of that! I'm also undefeated 60 - 0. Thought today would be a challenge but it turned into a huge victory for me. One step closer to a state title with you!

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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2012, 05:28:00 PM »
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Quote from: Joemellow
I am quit.  I chewed for about 11 years. The longest quit I had was in boot camp = 2 months but didnt have a choice.  other than that = 13 days.  Number of attempts = who knows? triple digits I'm sure.

I live in Iowa, work for the Waterloo Fire Dept. 29 years old.  I hate that I tell those who I work with that I'm quitting only to have them catch me with chew a week later.  Married for 5 years. I hate that i tell my wife I quit only to get caught a week later.  I have a huge family. Same story.

I have goals. Lofty ones.  I work for them every day. I want to climb El Capitan. I want to complete an Iron Man. I want the wrestling team I coach to have more State Titles than any team in Iowa.  These are great goals that keep me moving, but they are not the most important.  MOST IMPORTANLY is my goal to quit the nic.

Along with this goal is quitting caffeine and anything else that ends in -ine. This includes methemphetamine. But since I've never seen it and have no idea where to buy it I dont think this will be a problem.

Day 1 - I am quit.
Great intro man. Good to have you. Get to know your September Quit brothers, they may save your life one day.. Great choice to live nic free
Welcome to the site. Everyday for me is like a new match. Using the KTC program, I am undefeated with my quit. 78 - 0 !

It feels good to be quit. Don't worry about your match tomorrow, only focus on today. It is a crazy journey but well worth being free. Each match you win and each day that goes by, you are more resolved to keep winning.

It is painful at times but the victories are sweet!
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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2012, 04:05:00 PM »
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I am quit. I chewed for about 11 years. The longest quit I had was in boot camp = 2 months but didnt have a choice. other than that = 13 days. Number of attempts = who knows? triple digits I'm sure.

I live in Iowa, work for the Waterloo Fire Dept. 29 years old. I hate that I tell those who I work with that I'm quitting only to have them catch me with chew a week later. Married for 5 years. I hate that i tell my wife I quit only to get caught a week later. I have a huge family. Same story.

I have goals. Lofty ones. I work for them every day. I want to climb El Capitan. I want to complete an Iron Man. I want the wrestling team I coach to have more State Titles than any team in Iowa. These are great goals that keep me moving, but they are not the most important. MOST IMPORTANLY is my goal to quit the nic.

Along with this goal is quitting caffeine and anything else that ends in -ine. This includes methemphetamine. But since I've never seen it and have no idea where to buy it I dont think this will be a problem.

Day 1 - I am quit.
Great intro man. Good to have you. Get to know your September Quit brothers, they may save your life one day.. Great choice to live nic free
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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 02:52:00 PM »
Great choice to be here and this will be the toughest mountain to climb so far!

I will say you have the right outlook to quit but I do fear that your going to try to quit nic and caffeine at the same time may not have the desired effect......

Stick to quiting the nic and then once you get some good quit strength built up and the craving have subsided a little then I would say quit the caffeine.

Either way brother I would like to say I am quit with you and also if you need some help with any of this PM me and I will help you!

Now make sure to read thru the welcome center information and I would also recomend reading as much information on this site as you can, when you can!

Stay Strong, Focused and Quit!
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QUIT LIKE FUCK MY BITCHES!!!

PATIENCE LIKE FUCK MY BITCHES!!!

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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 02:49:00 PM »
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I am quit.  I chewed for about 11 years. The longest quit I had was in boot camp = 2 months but didnt have a choice.  other than that = 13 days.  Number of attempts = who knows? triple digits I'm sure.

I live in Iowa, work for the Waterloo Fire Dept. 29 years old.  I hate that I tell those who I work with that I'm quitting only to have them catch me with chew a week later.  Married for 5 years. I hate that i tell my wife I quit only to get caught a week later.  I have a huge family. Same story.

I have goals. Lofty ones.  I work for them every day. I want to climb El Capitan. I want to complete an Iron Man. I want the wrestling team I coach to have more State Titles than any team in Iowa.  These are great goals that keep me moving, but they are not the most important.  MOST IMPORTANLY is my goal to quit the nic.

Along with this goal is quitting caffeine and anything else that ends in -ine. This includes methemphetamine. But since I've never seen it and have no idea where to buy it I dont think this will be a problem.

Day 1 - I am quit.
Congrats on the best decision you have ever made. It's not going to be easy, but it will be worth it. I am on day 4 of my quit. As they say around here, Embrace the Suck, becuase it's coming. Feel free to pm anytime if you need help or just want to chat.

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Re: Most importantly
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2012, 02:44:00 PM »
Congrats on the next chapter of your life, it will get better, I promise.
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