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Bobby24365

I used Copenhagen southern blend for about 6 years- few breaks in between. I am 40 yrs old now. I quit forever 3 weeks ago - cold turkey. I have strong will, not to use it again. There was some minor headache,  gone now. I have neck stiffness a bit, when i move the neck.. i would not call it pain. Has anyone experienced similar situation?

MN_Engineer

Quote from: Kodiakslave on August 24, 2020, 08:06:33 PM
30 years of chewing kodiak. Help me quit
@Kodiakslave you are in the right spot. However, none of us can quit for you. You have to accept the fact you are an addict and quit for yourself. We (the site) are here to help hold you accountable as you navigate your quit.

Start by going to the December 2020 group and posting roll. Quitting for forever is too daunting. So that's why here at KTC we quit 24 hours at a time. We post roll which is our word to not use nicotine in any form for the next 24 hours and honor that word through hell or high water. We do that daily and simply focus on the only thing we can control - TODAY.

The process is simple but certainly challenging. If you are ready, we will be here waiting to help you along the way.
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30 years of chewing kodiak. Help me quit

Rexmanning

Quote from: Bigquita on August 17, 2020, 06:00:49 PM
Man the cravings are making me sweat today. Talking to myself outloud at times I must look like a nut job. It’s like there are 2 different parts of me. The man in me telling the immature me, “you can’t have it, it’s no good for you.” I guess I just need to let the internal Immature temper tantrums run their course. I admire the shit out of all of you vets that have been able to stay strong for so long. Thanks for the support

Keep going man

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Quote from: Bigquita on August 17, 2020, 06:00:49 PM
Man the cravings are making me sweat today. Talking to myself outloud at times I must look like a nut job. It’s like there are 2 different parts of me. The man in me telling the immature me, “you can’t have it, it’s no good for you.” I guess I just need to let the internal Immature temper tantrums run their course. I admire the shit out of all of you vets that have been able to stay strong for so long. Thanks for the support
You are stronger than you know @Bigquita!! Do not give in! Hell I remember when I first quit I was breaking the days into minutes. Quitting is hard as hell but way worth it!!! Every day gets better and easier from here. Sure there will be hard times but YOU CAN DO THIS!!!

Bigquita

Man the cravings are making me sweat today. Talking to myself outloud at times I must look like a nut job. It’s like there are 2 different parts of me. The man in me telling the immature me, “you can’t have it, it’s no good for you.” I guess I just need to let the internal Immature temper tantrums run their course. I admire the shit out of all of you vets that have been able to stay strong for so long. Thanks for the support

chewie

Quote from: 69franx on August 16, 2020, 11:47:04 PM
Quote from: Zeus on August 16, 2020, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: JoeyinAL on August 16, 2020, 08:27:59 PM
Hey everyone. Wasnt sure which forum to post in so i will try here. Recently had some labwork done and its time to quit i think. Heres my story...
I have minimal heart failure, take diuretics, and dipped tobacco for 37 years.
Labs were always normal until now.
So on july 13 my labs were
Rbc 6.17
Hematocrit 57.6
Hemoblobin 19.6
Cardiologist said to follow up with my normal dr.
I thought i might be dehydrated so made sure to drink alot
On july 28 labs were
Rbc 5.99
Hematocrit 54
Hemoglobin 18.9
Iron 166
Reticulocytes 1.5%.
Reticulocyte count .0980
She referred me to a hematologist. My appt is Oct2.
Ive been having some symptoms for the past few months.  A few hours a day my feet are cold but it always goes away. Very few minor headaches. And some nervouseness. Also heavy legs and a feeling of unbalance. My symptoms are getting better and the numbers improved. I have a recheck on Aug25 and will see how numbers are then.
Any ideas, thoughts, or opinions are welcome.
Thanks
I 100% agree with you. It's time to quit. Nicotine is not going to make any of your medical issues better. Quitting will.

The next forum you should post in is this one:
https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=15852.0
Zeus nailed it here ^^^, get in there and post roll. Then spend as much time as possible reading through this site to better understand  your addiction.

Bingo. This place can be your lifeline early in your quit and the relationships that you make... well, those can last a lifetime.
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69franx

Quote from: Zeus on August 16, 2020, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: JoeyinAL on August 16, 2020, 08:27:59 PM
Hey everyone. Wasnt sure which forum to post in so i will try here. Recently had some labwork done and its time to quit i think. Heres my story...
I have minimal heart failure, take diuretics, and dipped tobacco for 37 years.
Labs were always normal until now.
So on july 13 my labs were
Rbc 6.17
Hematocrit 57.6
Hemoblobin 19.6
Cardiologist said to follow up with my normal dr.
I thought i might be dehydrated so made sure to drink alot
On july 28 labs were
Rbc 5.99
Hematocrit 54
Hemoglobin 18.9
Iron 166
Reticulocytes 1.5%.
Reticulocyte count .0980
She referred me to a hematologist. My appt is Oct2.
Ive been having some symptoms for the past few months.  A few hours a day my feet are cold but it always goes away. Very few minor headaches. And some nervouseness. Also heavy legs and a feeling of unbalance. My symptoms are getting better and the numbers improved. I have a recheck on Aug25 and will see how numbers are then.
Any ideas, thoughts, or opinions are welcome.
Thanks
I 100% agree with you. It's time to quit. Nicotine is not going to make any of your medical issues better. Quitting will.

The next forum you should post in is this one:
https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=15852.0
Zeus nailed it here ^^^, get in there and post roll. Then spend as much time as possible reading through this site to better understand  your addiction.
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Zeus

Quote from: JoeyinAL on August 16, 2020, 08:27:59 PM
Hey everyone. Wasnt sure which forum to post in so i will try here. Recently had some labwork done and its time to quit i think. Heres my story...
I have minimal heart failure, take diuretics, and dipped tobacco for 37 years.
Labs were always normal until now.
So on july 13 my labs were
Rbc 6.17
Hematocrit 57.6
Hemoblobin 19.6
Cardiologist said to follow up with my normal dr.
I thought i might be dehydrated so made sure to drink alot
On july 28 labs were
Rbc 5.99
Hematocrit 54
Hemoglobin 18.9
Iron 166
Reticulocytes 1.5%.
Reticulocyte count .0980
She referred me to a hematologist. My appt is Oct2.
Ive been having some symptoms for the past few months.  A few hours a day my feet are cold but it always goes away. Very few minor headaches. And some nervouseness. Also heavy legs and a feeling of unbalance. My symptoms are getting better and the numbers improved. I have a recheck on Aug25 and will see how numbers are then.
Any ideas, thoughts, or opinions are welcome.
Thanks
I 100% agree with you. It's time to quit. Nicotine is not going to make any of your medical issues better. Quitting will.

The next forum you should post in is this one:
https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=15852.0
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JoeyinAL

Hey everyone. Wasnt sure which forum to post in so i will try here. Recently had some labwork done and its time to quit i think. Heres my story...
I have minimal heart failure, take diuretics, and dipped tobacco for 37 years.
Labs were always normal until now.
So on july 13 my labs were
Rbc 6.17
Hematocrit 57.6
Hemoblobin 19.6
Cardiologist said to follow up with my normal dr.
I thought i might be dehydrated so made sure to drink alot
On july 28 labs were
Rbc 5.99
Hematocrit 54
Hemoglobin 18.9
Iron 166
Reticulocytes 1.5%.
Reticulocyte count .0980
She referred me to a hematologist. My appt is Oct2.
Ive been having some symptoms for the past few months.  A few hours a day my feet are cold but it always goes away. Very few minor headaches. And some nervouseness. Also heavy legs and a feeling of unbalance. My symptoms are getting better and the numbers improved. I have a recheck on Aug25 and will see how numbers are then.
Any ideas, thoughts, or opinions are welcome.
Thanks

chewie

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Quote from: Xiipher on August 03, 2020, 08:31:26 PM
What's up fellas. I have an odd type of question and am looking for someone who may have experienced this before. Been dipping for 15+ years. I recently stopped drinking, but just about every time I put a dip in I get terrible anxiety, shaking, extremely sweaty hands. Not to mention my bp goes up much farther than before, to around 140+/95 or 100. This has been consistent for months now. Body still craves dip, but once I pack one in I get those terrible symptoms. Don't get me wrong, my goal is to quit, but I'm hoping there's someone out there who has experienced this and might have some extra insight.
@Xiipher was it also your goal to "quit" back in September of 2017 when you quit stopped for about a week before going radio silent?

Are you just trying to explain your symptoms? Or do you actually want to be quit? Sounds like most of your problems would go away if you stopped poisoning yourself with nicotine. Just think, you could be almost 3 years quit right now and not dealing with any of this shit (or at least not to such a degree).

So what say you? You going to sack up and quit this time? Let's start by posting roll early, every damn day and focus on keeping that promise 24 hours at a time.  There is an army of people here ready to help you out but you have to take the first step and do this for yourself. We can't quit for you but we can help you along the way. Please start by answering the three questions: 1.) What happened? 2.) Why did it happen? 3.) What are you going to do differently this time?

(Also, you need to send me a PM so we can get you back on your original account. Multiple accounts are never allowed here at KTC since honesty, transparency and accountability are foundational aspects of the site.)
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Xiipher

What's up fellas. I have an odd type of question and am looking for someone who may have experienced this before. Been dipping for 15+ years. I recently stopped drinking, but just about every time I put a dip in I get terrible anxiety, shaking, extremely sweaty hands. Not to mention my bp goes up much farther than before, to around 140+/95 or 100. This has been consistent for months now. Body still craves dip, but once I pack one in I get those terrible symptoms. Don't get me wrong, my goal is to quit, but I'm hoping there's someone out there who has experienced this and might have some extra insight.

chewie

Quote from: Shutupanfish on August 01, 2020, 11:57:15 AM
Quote from: Ellery on July 28, 2020, 05:39:46 PM
How does everybody get threw the sick ness feeling and brain fog

SHUTUPANFISH. Day 7 here so im probaly not much help but i drink a lot of coffee and just try to keep calm and distracted. It helps to have someone who understands what your going through. I have a co-worker an freind who lets me bitch an rant an listens but he also tells me when im being a dumbass.
Its hard though, i keep telling myself "this really sucks and isnt worth it"  but then i think the only thing worse would be to have to go through it all again if i cave now. Good luck brother, im rooting for you!

Hey @Ellery you've got some good advice here from @Shutupanfish - having someone you can vent to is one of the BEST things you can do... and you're in the best place to do it. There are THOUSANDS of quitters here that 'get it' and we'll tell it to you straight.

Chatting on the forums, or on live chat, the main site, our social channels, etc. is a GREAT distraction from the day to day early quit craves.

Take it one day, one hour, one minute at at time if necessary... those +1's will begin to add up to a PILE of quit before you know it.

Hang in there.

Chewie ~ 5,124
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Shutupanfish

Quote from: Ellery on July 28, 2020, 05:39:46 PM
How does everybody get threw the sick ness feeling and brain fog

SHUTUPANFISH. Day 7 here so im probaly not much help but i drink a lot of coffee and just try to keep calm and distracted. It helps to have someone who understands what your going through. I have a co-worker an freind who lets me bitch an rant an listens but he also tells me when im being a dumbass.
Its hard though, i keep telling myself "this really sucks and isnt worth it"  but then i think the only thing worse would be to have to go through it all again if i cave now. Good luck brother, im rooting for you!