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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2020, 10:02:31 AM »
Update:

I have now almost quit real chew. I am barely dipping at all now, the real stuff that is at least. Im down to about 20 minutes every 24 hours. In between I either dont dip or I do the fake stuff. It has been hard, but I am determined to quit (despite what all the naysayers here say, not surprised by that either). I will continue to wean myself off it until I am completely free of it. At this point in time Im at the point where half the time I go to reach for a real dip, and im just like 'nah, ill do the fake stuff', so I end up going longer the 24 hours without the real stuff.
This isn’t Facebook.
Updates are white noise and bullshit to us when you haven’t quit.

1... How dare you come on a site that is all about quitting and gaining power over this addiction, flaunting your 100% lame ass excuses for why you “can’t quit” cold turkey AND still using. Idiot.

2... Quit now or leave. It’s that simple. If you would pull your head out of your ass and take the time to read all the responses below, you would understand why we are vehemently attacking you on this point.

I, for one, do NOT give one damn about your weaning status.

It’s weak.
It’s insulting to all the guys and gals who are ACTUALLY quitting.

Quit, join a quit group, or...
Go. Away.

It’s that simple.
 
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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2020, 07:09:48 AM »
Update:

I have now almost quit real chew. I am barely dipping at all now, the real stuff that is at least. Im down to about 20 minutes every 24 hours. In between I either dont dip or I do the fake stuff. It has been hard, but I am determined to quit (despite what all the naysayers here say, not surprised by that either). I will continue to wean myself off it until I am completely free of it. At this point in time Im at the point where half the time I go to reach for a real dip, and im just like 'nah, ill do the fake stuff', so I end up going longer the 24 hours without the real stuff.

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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2020, 07:22:05 PM »
So guess Ill stick here in the introductions forum until then...

Ive known about KilltheCan ever since its inception years and years ago, but up until recently, Ive never had a strong enough desire to quit, so I didnt't fucking care, lets just be honest. Even now, I dont want to quit, but because of my health, I seriously need to. Ive been in and out of the hospital most of my life due to health issues all stemming from nicotine use, and logic be damned, but my extremely addictive personality doesnt care about what happens to my health in the end apparantly. 

However here in the last few months Ive been increasingly worried about my health and just how long Ive got left if I continue down this nicotine road. Thus I am in the process of weaning myself off of the shit. Ive quit before, a few times actually, years ago, but I always started up again. Hell lets be honest, if I quit this time, I cant guarantee that I wont pick it up again some day in the future, long after Ive quit. Maybe thats why Im subconciously really here, to not only quit, but quit for good.

Anyways, enough with the same backstory thats been told 10000x already youve all heard before...

Ive been dipping since the military 12 years ago. Its where I started using tobacco, both smoking and dip. Ive been off and on both forms, if not all forms of nicotine since them. Currently for the last 5 years or so Ive been 100% dip. Im from rural midwest, so dip is pretty common and widely accepted. You see it everywhere, and you stand out like a sore thumb if you DONT use it... thats the culture here. Hence it makes it much harder to quit when its so common. 

At the moment, Im trying to wean myself off the real chew. Ive tried quitting cold turkey before and it causes more problems then cures. Ive only ever been able to wean myself off it, its the only thing that works. 

But unlike in the past where I always half assed all my attempts, and gave myself plenty of cheat days, Im really trying to stick to it this time. On average, before this new attempt, I was dipping for at least a solid 9 hours out of every 24. Currently Ive cut back to around 3 to 5. Ive been using Smokey Mountain, a brand Ive known about for many years. Real Dip every 4 hours if I want it, for 30 minutes, then take it out immediately and toss in the fake stuff for another hour or so. Its really been helpful in tricking my mind into thinking im still chewing.   
 
My goal is to continue like this for a week or two until I am comfortable with the new tolerance levels, and then go down to like 30 mins of real dip every 6 hours if i want it, 15 every 8 hours, etc. Its the only method thats ever managed to work for me. In the past I also always had a shitty job so coughing up money for fake chew on top of real chew was not logical. Not trying to brag, just saying I have the finances now to support the attempt this time. Ive got 3 cans of SM on hand, and 10 cans from Jakes on the way, with a 30 can order from SM on the way as well.

Never have I attempted this hard to quit by making a concrete effort financially to quit, so I really am hoping, almost praying Ive got the willpower this time to not let my money go to waste.
Yea, thats my story...
Hi DR89 - glad you signed up.  This is a no nicotine forum as it was stating in the terms you accepted when signing up on this forum.  Cold turkey is the only way unfortunately.  Believe me...weening is a marketing scheme implemented by big tobacco to get you to not quit and 'think' you still need nic.  It's all a big fat lie.  Nicotine isn't required for anything at all...nothing.  Don't give into the lies that weening is helping YOU...it is only helping big tobacco steal more of your money.  Quit now...get through the withdrawal now.  Weening only delays when you have true withdrawal (along with giving big tobacco your money).  Withdrawal starts when you stop using.  So it is either now or later.  If you choose later...come back then and post up your Day 1.  I would highly encourage starting now because chances of you coming back later with a 'future quit date' (as we have seen NUMEROUS times before from MANY on this site) results in a 1% chance that person actually comes back and an almost 100% chance that they fail in their quit since they have thought there was a cure.  This is an addiction - meaning it is lifelong. 

Join up and post Day 1.  The system here works if you buy into it.  Surrender yourself to the fact that you are an addict to nicotine and post up each day.

I hope you join up and choose this path.  We will all be here to support you.  In the end, only you can quit for yourself.
However, I can't quit cold turkey.

My body as I mentioned, is already severely dependent on nicotine to function.

I know that sounds 100% like bullshit...

Oh. My. Good. God.

Bullshit doesn’t even come close.

I am fully speechless. Wow.
Sounds like you've really got a handle on it this time.  So while you contine to kill yourself, we'll be over here actually giving a fuck, quitting.

@DirtRoad89 I won't speak for everyone here but most of our bodies were/are severely dependent on nicotine; certainly mine was/is. Most of us used for longer than you...some much longer.  Your body will always be dependent on nicotine...that's addiction.  You are doing yourself zero favors putting this off.  If, as you say, you are motivated to quit, cut the cord now.  Putting it off only gives you wiggle room to not commit.  YOU CAN DO THIS.  We can lead you down the path.  Post up and take the first step of the rest of your life.
This might be the biggest pile of shit I have read on KTC. However, I give you a B- for creativity.
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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2020, 07:15:10 PM »
So guess Ill stick here in the introductions forum until then...

Ive known about KilltheCan ever since its inception years and years ago, but up until recently, Ive never had a strong enough desire to quit, so I didnt't fucking care, lets just be honest. Even now, I dont want to quit, but because of my health, I seriously need to. Ive been in and out of the hospital most of my life due to health issues all stemming from nicotine use, and logic be damned, but my extremely addictive personality doesnt care about what happens to my health in the end apparantly. 

However here in the last few months Ive been increasingly worried about my health and just how long Ive got left if I continue down this nicotine road. Thus I am in the process of weaning myself off of the shit. Ive quit before, a few times actually, years ago, but I always started up again. Hell lets be honest, if I quit this time, I cant guarantee that I wont pick it up again some day in the future, long after Ive quit. Maybe thats why Im subconciously really here, to not only quit, but quit for good.

Anyways, enough with the same backstory thats been told 10000x already youve all heard before...

Ive been dipping since the military 12 years ago. Its where I started using tobacco, both smoking and dip. Ive been off and on both forms, if not all forms of nicotine since them. Currently for the last 5 years or so Ive been 100% dip. Im from rural midwest, so dip is pretty common and widely accepted. You see it everywhere, and you stand out like a sore thumb if you DONT use it... thats the culture here. Hence it makes it much harder to quit when its so common. 

At the moment, Im trying to wean myself off the real chew. Ive tried quitting cold turkey before and it causes more problems then cures. Ive only ever been able to wean myself off it, its the only thing that works. 

But unlike in the past where I always half assed all my attempts, and gave myself plenty of cheat days, Im really trying to stick to it this time. On average, before this new attempt, I was dipping for at least a solid 9 hours out of every 24. Currently Ive cut back to around 3 to 5. Ive been using Smokey Mountain, a brand Ive known about for many years. Real Dip every 4 hours if I want it, for 30 minutes, then take it out immediately and toss in the fake stuff for another hour or so. Its really been helpful in tricking my mind into thinking im still chewing.   
 
My goal is to continue like this for a week or two until I am comfortable with the new tolerance levels, and then go down to like 30 mins of real dip every 6 hours if i want it, 15 every 8 hours, etc. Its the only method thats ever managed to work for me. In the past I also always had a shitty job so coughing up money for fake chew on top of real chew was not logical. Not trying to brag, just saying I have the finances now to support the attempt this time. Ive got 3 cans of SM on hand, and 10 cans from Jakes on the way, with a 30 can order from SM on the way as well.

Never have I attempted this hard to quit by making a concrete effort financially to quit, so I really am hoping, almost praying Ive got the willpower this time to not let my money go to waste.
Yea, thats my story...
Hi DR89 - glad you signed up.  This is a no nicotine forum as it was stating in the terms you accepted when signing up on this forum.  Cold turkey is the only way unfortunately.  Believe me...weening is a marketing scheme implemented by big tobacco to get you to not quit and 'think' you still need nic.  It's all a big fat lie.  Nicotine isn't required for anything at all...nothing.  Don't give into the lies that weening is helping YOU...it is only helping big tobacco steal more of your money.  Quit now...get through the withdrawal now.  Weening only delays when you have true withdrawal (along with giving big tobacco your money).  Withdrawal starts when you stop using.  So it is either now or later.  If you choose later...come back then and post up your Day 1.  I would highly encourage starting now because chances of you coming back later with a 'future quit date' (as we have seen NUMEROUS times before from MANY on this site) results in a 1% chance that person actually comes back and an almost 100% chance that they fail in their quit since they have thought there was a cure.  This is an addiction - meaning it is lifelong. 

Join up and post Day 1.  The system here works if you buy into it.  Surrender yourself to the fact that you are an addict to nicotine and post up each day.

I hope you join up and choose this path.  We will all be here to support you.  In the end, only you can quit for yourself.
However, I can't quit cold turkey.

My body as I mentioned, is already severely dependent on nicotine to function.

I know that sounds 100% like bullshit...

Oh. My. Good. God.

Bullshit doesn’t even come close.

I am fully speechless. Wow.
Sounds like you've really got a handle on it this time.  So while you contine to kill yourself, we'll be over here actually giving a fuck, quitting.

@DirtRoad89 I won't speak for everyone here but most of our bodies were/are severely dependent on nicotine; certainly mine was/is. Most of us used for longer than you...some much longer.  Your body will always be dependent on nicotine...that's addiction.  You are doing yourself zero favors putting this off.  If, as you say, you are motivated to quit, cut the cord now.  Putting it off only gives you wiggle room to not commit.  YOU CAN DO THIS.  We can lead you down the path.  Post up and take the first step of the rest of your life.

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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2020, 03:14:44 PM »
So guess Ill stick here in the introductions forum until then...

Ive known about KilltheCan ever since its inception years and years ago, but up until recently, Ive never had a strong enough desire to quit, so I didnt't fucking care, lets just be honest. Even now, I dont want to quit, but because of my health, I seriously need to. Ive been in and out of the hospital most of my life due to health issues all stemming from nicotine use, and logic be damned, but my extremely addictive personality doesnt care about what happens to my health in the end apparantly. 

However here in the last few months Ive been increasingly worried about my health and just how long Ive got left if I continue down this nicotine road. Thus I am in the process of weaning myself off of the shit. Ive quit before, a few times actually, years ago, but I always started up again. Hell lets be honest, if I quit this time, I cant guarantee that I wont pick it up again some day in the future, long after Ive quit. Maybe thats why Im subconciously really here, to not only quit, but quit for good.

Anyways, enough with the same backstory thats been told 10000x already youve all heard before...

Ive been dipping since the military 12 years ago. Its where I started using tobacco, both smoking and dip. Ive been off and on both forms, if not all forms of nicotine since them. Currently for the last 5 years or so Ive been 100% dip. Im from rural midwest, so dip is pretty common and widely accepted. You see it everywhere, and you stand out like a sore thumb if you DONT use it... thats the culture here. Hence it makes it much harder to quit when its so common. 

At the moment, Im trying to wean myself off the real chew. Ive tried quitting cold turkey before and it causes more problems then cures. Ive only ever been able to wean myself off it, its the only thing that works. 

But unlike in the past where I always half assed all my attempts, and gave myself plenty of cheat days, Im really trying to stick to it this time. On average, before this new attempt, I was dipping for at least a solid 9 hours out of every 24. Currently Ive cut back to around 3 to 5. Ive been using Smokey Mountain, a brand Ive known about for many years. Real Dip every 4 hours if I want it, for 30 minutes, then take it out immediately and toss in the fake stuff for another hour or so. Its really been helpful in tricking my mind into thinking im still chewing.   
 
My goal is to continue like this for a week or two until I am comfortable with the new tolerance levels, and then go down to like 30 mins of real dip every 6 hours if i want it, 15 every 8 hours, etc. Its the only method thats ever managed to work for me. In the past I also always had a shitty job so coughing up money for fake chew on top of real chew was not logical. Not trying to brag, just saying I have the finances now to support the attempt this time. Ive got 3 cans of SM on hand, and 10 cans from Jakes on the way, with a 30 can order from SM on the way as well.

Never have I attempted this hard to quit by making a concrete effort financially to quit, so I really am hoping, almost praying Ive got the willpower this time to not let my money go to waste.
Yea, thats my story...
Hi DR89 - glad you signed up.  This is a no nicotine forum as it was stating in the terms you accepted when signing up on this forum.  Cold turkey is the only way unfortunately.  Believe me...weening is a marketing scheme implemented by big tobacco to get you to not quit and 'think' you still need nic.  It's all a big fat lie.  Nicotine isn't required for anything at all...nothing.  Don't give into the lies that weening is helping YOU...it is only helping big tobacco steal more of your money.  Quit now...get through the withdrawal now.  Weening only delays when you have true withdrawal (along with giving big tobacco your money).  Withdrawal starts when you stop using.  So it is either now or later.  If you choose later...come back then and post up your Day 1.  I would highly encourage starting now because chances of you coming back later with a 'future quit date' (as we have seen NUMEROUS times before from MANY on this site) results in a 1% chance that person actually comes back and an almost 100% chance that they fail in their quit since they have thought there was a cure.  This is an addiction - meaning it is lifelong. 

Join up and post Day 1.  The system here works if you buy into it.  Surrender yourself to the fact that you are an addict to nicotine and post up each day.

I hope you join up and choose this path.  We will all be here to support you.  In the end, only you can quit for yourself.
However, I can't quit cold turkey.

My body as I mentioned, is already severely dependent on nicotine to function.

I know that sounds 100% like bullshit...

Oh. My. Good. God.

Bullshit doesn’t even come close.

I am fully speechless. Wow.
Sounds like you've really got a handle on it this time.  So while you contine to kill yourself, we'll be over here actually giving a fuck, quitting.

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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2020, 02:17:24 PM »
So guess Ill stick here in the introductions forum until then...

Ive known about KilltheCan ever since its inception years and years ago, but up until recently, Ive never had a strong enough desire to quit, so I didnt't fucking care, lets just be honest. Even now, I dont want to quit, but because of my health, I seriously need to. Ive been in and out of the hospital most of my life due to health issues all stemming from nicotine use, and logic be damned, but my extremely addictive personality doesnt care about what happens to my health in the end apparantly. 

However here in the last few months Ive been increasingly worried about my health and just how long Ive got left if I continue down this nicotine road. Thus I am in the process of weaning myself off of the shit. Ive quit before, a few times actually, years ago, but I always started up again. Hell lets be honest, if I quit this time, I cant guarantee that I wont pick it up again some day in the future, long after Ive quit. Maybe thats why Im subconciously really here, to not only quit, but quit for good.

Anyways, enough with the same backstory thats been told 10000x already youve all heard before...

Ive been dipping since the military 12 years ago. Its where I started using tobacco, both smoking and dip. Ive been off and on both forms, if not all forms of nicotine since them. Currently for the last 5 years or so Ive been 100% dip. Im from rural midwest, so dip is pretty common and widely accepted. You see it everywhere, and you stand out like a sore thumb if you DONT use it... thats the culture here. Hence it makes it much harder to quit when its so common. 

At the moment, Im trying to wean myself off the real chew. Ive tried quitting cold turkey before and it causes more problems then cures. Ive only ever been able to wean myself off it, its the only thing that works. 

But unlike in the past where I always half assed all my attempts, and gave myself plenty of cheat days, Im really trying to stick to it this time. On average, before this new attempt, I was dipping for at least a solid 9 hours out of every 24. Currently Ive cut back to around 3 to 5. Ive been using Smokey Mountain, a brand Ive known about for many years. Real Dip every 4 hours if I want it, for 30 minutes, then take it out immediately and toss in the fake stuff for another hour or so. Its really been helpful in tricking my mind into thinking im still chewing.   
 
My goal is to continue like this for a week or two until I am comfortable with the new tolerance levels, and then go down to like 30 mins of real dip every 6 hours if i want it, 15 every 8 hours, etc. Its the only method thats ever managed to work for me. In the past I also always had a shitty job so coughing up money for fake chew on top of real chew was not logical. Not trying to brag, just saying I have the finances now to support the attempt this time. Ive got 3 cans of SM on hand, and 10 cans from Jakes on the way, with a 30 can order from SM on the way as well.

Never have I attempted this hard to quit by making a concrete effort financially to quit, so I really am hoping, almost praying Ive got the willpower this time to not let my money go to waste.
Yea, thats my story...
Hi DR89 - glad you signed up.  This is a no nicotine forum as it was stating in the terms you accepted when signing up on this forum.  Cold turkey is the only way unfortunately.  Believe me...weening is a marketing scheme implemented by big tobacco to get you to not quit and 'think' you still need nic.  It's all a big fat lie.  Nicotine isn't required for anything at all...nothing.  Don't give into the lies that weening is helping YOU...it is only helping big tobacco steal more of your money.  Quit now...get through the withdrawal now.  Weening only delays when you have true withdrawal (along with giving big tobacco your money).  Withdrawal starts when you stop using.  So it is either now or later.  If you choose later...come back then and post up your Day 1.  I would highly encourage starting now because chances of you coming back later with a 'future quit date' (as we have seen NUMEROUS times before from MANY on this site) results in a 1% chance that person actually comes back and an almost 100% chance that they fail in their quit since they have thought there was a cure.  This is an addiction - meaning it is lifelong. 

Join up and post Day 1.  The system here works if you buy into it.  Surrender yourself to the fact that you are an addict to nicotine and post up each day.

I hope you join up and choose this path.  We will all be here to support you.  In the end, only you can quit for yourself.
However, I can't quit cold turkey.

My body as I mentioned, is already severely dependent on nicotine to function.

I know that sounds 100% like bullshit...

Oh. My. Good. God.

Bullshit doesn’t even come close.

I am fully speechless. Wow.
Well, it’s one louder, isn’t it? It’s not ten.

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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2020, 06:12:37 PM »
So guess Ill stick here in the introductions forum until then...

Ive known about KilltheCan ever since its inception years and years ago, but up until recently, Ive never had a strong enough desire to quit, so I didnt't fucking care, lets just be honest. Even now, I dont want to quit, but because of my health, I seriously need to. Ive been in and out of the hospital most of my life due to health issues all stemming from nicotine use, and logic be damned, but my extremely addictive personality doesnt care about what happens to my health in the end apparantly. 

However here in the last few months Ive been increasingly worried about my health and just how long Ive got left if I continue down this nicotine road. Thus I am in the process of weaning myself off of the shit. Ive quit before, a few times actually, years ago, but I always started up again. Hell lets be honest, if I quit this time, I cant guarantee that I wont pick it up again some day in the future, long after Ive quit. Maybe thats why Im subconciously really here, to not only quit, but quit for good.

Anyways, enough with the same backstory thats been told 10000x already youve all heard before...

Ive been dipping since the military 12 years ago. Its where I started using tobacco, both smoking and dip. Ive been off and on both forms, if not all forms of nicotine since them. Currently for the last 5 years or so Ive been 100% dip. Im from rural midwest, so dip is pretty common and widely accepted. You see it everywhere, and you stand out like a sore thumb if you DONT use it... thats the culture here. Hence it makes it much harder to quit when its so common. 

At the moment, Im trying to wean myself off the real chew. Ive tried quitting cold turkey before and it causes more problems then cures. Ive only ever been able to wean myself off it, its the only thing that works. 

But unlike in the past where I always half assed all my attempts, and gave myself plenty of cheat days, Im really trying to stick to it this time. On average, before this new attempt, I was dipping for at least a solid 9 hours out of every 24. Currently Ive cut back to around 3 to 5. Ive been using Smokey Mountain, a brand Ive known about for many years. Real Dip every 4 hours if I want it, for 30 minutes, then take it out immediately and toss in the fake stuff for another hour or so. Its really been helpful in tricking my mind into thinking im still chewing.   
 
My goal is to continue like this for a week or two until I am comfortable with the new tolerance levels, and then go down to like 30 mins of real dip every 6 hours if i want it, 15 every 8 hours, etc. Its the only method thats ever managed to work for me. In the past I also always had a shitty job so coughing up money for fake chew on top of real chew was not logical. Not trying to brag, just saying I have the finances now to support the attempt this time. Ive got 3 cans of SM on hand, and 10 cans from Jakes on the way, with a 30 can order from SM on the way as well.

Never have I attempted this hard to quit by making a concrete effort financially to quit, so I really am hoping, almost praying Ive got the willpower this time to not let my money go to waste.
Yea, thats my story...
Hi DR89 - glad you signed up.  This is a no nicotine forum as it was stating in the terms you accepted when signing up on this forum.  Cold turkey is the only way unfortunately.  Believe me...weening is a marketing scheme implemented by big tobacco to get you to not quit and 'think' you still need nic.  It's all a big fat lie.  Nicotine isn't required for anything at all...nothing.  Don't give into the lies that weening is helping YOU...it is only helping big tobacco steal more of your money.  Quit now...get through the withdrawal now.  Weening only delays when you have true withdrawal (along with giving big tobacco your money).  Withdrawal starts when you stop using.  So it is either now or later.  If you choose later...come back then and post up your Day 1.  I would highly encourage starting now because chances of you coming back later with a 'future quit date' (as we have seen NUMEROUS times before from MANY on this site) results in a 1% chance that person actually comes back and an almost 100% chance that they fail in their quit since they have thought there was a cure.  This is an addiction - meaning it is lifelong. 

Join up and post Day 1.  The system here works if you buy into it.  Surrender yourself to the fact that you are an addict to nicotine and post up each day.

I hope you join up and choose this path.  We will all be here to support you.  In the end, only you can quit for yourself.

hey thanks for the encouragement. Oh trust me, I know first and foremost that I am an addict. I am acutely aware that I am addicted to nicotine. I used to abuse pills years ago till I nearly overdosed and ive been clean now for nearly 9 years. I wont even take presciption meds or even OTC pills. Thats a promise I made to myself. I refuse to break it. 

But yes, you are 100% right that I am an addict. However, I can't quit cold turkey. Last two times I tried that shit I wound up in the ER in intensive care. My body as I mentioned, is already severely dependent on nicotine to function. I know that its all mental, but in my case, some of it is actually very physical, as 10 years of hospital records would show.   

I would love to quit cold turkey, but thats a very dangerous game for me to play. Even my ex, who urged me to quit cold turkey, saw how irresponsible of an option that was for me first hand, and we both agreed back then that if I were to ever quit, I were to quit by weaning myself off. Its the only safe way I can do it. 

I know that sounds 100% like bullshit, even I think its bullshit, but Ive been diagnosed with a rare disease and suffer from it daily, that is literally caused by an allergic reaction to nicotine and tobacco. The allergies are gone, but the effects are permanent and lifelong. Fucking messed up if you ask me that Im able to be addicted to it still, and knowing put that shit in my mouth knowing hours later Ill be suffering physically because of what it does to my body health wise. But If I quit suddenly, I risk seizures and instant death. Im so used to the fact I could drop dead immediately, that Ive had many many years of accepting that simple fact. Im more afraid of leaving people I love behind, then dying instantly. Ive already been in that boat once before, so the fear of cancer and the like dont really scare me, its more the suddenly dropping out without any warning and not being able to say goodbye, that scares me. 

However, Yes, I am an addict, I know I make excuses, and I know youve all heard it before. Im not promising to you or anyone else that Ill be back, Idk if I will, but I do know that the steps and amount Ive cut back on, are drastic and unheard of for me, especially people who know me personally. I can not guarantee at all that Ill be able to wean myself off completely, but god dammit Im gonna try.

I will say, I have 4 cans of real chew left, and I havent bought any. Thats insanity for me. Normally If I buy a can of fake chew, I buy 2 cans of real chew. Its crazy to me that Im over here buying fake chew and not buying any real chew too.

Anyways, thanks for the encouragement and advice.

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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2020, 05:56:30 PM »
So guess Ill stick here in the introductions forum until then...

Ive known about KilltheCan ever since its inception years and years ago, but up until recently, Ive never had a strong enough desire to quit, so I didnt't fucking care, lets just be honest. Even now, I dont want to quit, but because of my health, I seriously need to. Ive been in and out of the hospital most of my life due to health issues all stemming from nicotine use, and logic be damned, but my extremely addictive personality doesnt care about what happens to my health in the end apparantly. 

However here in the last few months Ive been increasingly worried about my health and just how long Ive got left if I continue down this nicotine road. Thus I am in the process of weaning myself off of the shit. Ive quit before, a few times actually, years ago, but I always started up again. Hell lets be honest, if I quit this time, I cant guarantee that I wont pick it up again some day in the future, long after Ive quit. Maybe thats why Im subconciously really here, to not only quit, but quit for good.

Anyways, enough with the same backstory thats been told 10000x already youve all heard before...

Ive been dipping since the military 12 years ago. Its where I started using tobacco, both smoking and dip. Ive been off and on both forms, if not all forms of nicotine since them. Currently for the last 5 years or so Ive been 100% dip. Im from rural midwest, so dip is pretty common and widely accepted. You see it everywhere, and you stand out like a sore thumb if you DONT use it... thats the culture here. Hence it makes it much harder to quit when its so common. 

At the moment, Im trying to wean myself off the real chew. Ive tried quitting cold turkey before and it causes more problems then cures. Ive only ever been able to wean myself off it, its the only thing that works. 

But unlike in the past where I always half assed all my attempts, and gave myself plenty of cheat days, Im really trying to stick to it this time. On average, before this new attempt, I was dipping for at least a solid 9 hours out of every 24. Currently Ive cut back to around 3 to 5. Ive been using Smokey Mountain, a brand Ive known about for many years. Real Dip every 4 hours if I want it, for 30 minutes, then take it out immediately and toss in the fake stuff for another hour or so. Its really been helpful in tricking my mind into thinking im still chewing.   
 
My goal is to continue like this for a week or two until I am comfortable with the new tolerance levels, and then go down to like 30 mins of real dip every 6 hours if i want it, 15 every 8 hours, etc. Its the only method thats ever managed to work for me. In the past I also always had a shitty job so coughing up money for fake chew on top of real chew was not logical. Not trying to brag, just saying I have the finances now to support the attempt this time. Ive got 3 cans of SM on hand, and 10 cans from Jakes on the way, with a 30 can order from SM on the way as well.

Never have I attempted this hard to quit by making a concrete effort financially to quit, so I really am hoping, almost praying Ive got the willpower this time to not let my money go to waste.
Yea, thats my story...
Hi DR89 - glad you signed up.  This is a no nicotine forum as it was stating in the terms you accepted when signing up on this forum.  Cold turkey is the only way unfortunately.  Believe me...weening is a marketing scheme implemented by big tobacco to get you to not quit and 'think' you still need nic.  It's all a big fat lie.  Nicotine isn't required for anything at all...nothing.  Don't give into the lies that weening is helping YOU...it is only helping big tobacco steal more of your money.  Quit now...get through the withdrawal now.  Weening only delays when you have true withdrawal (along with giving big tobacco your money).  Withdrawal starts when you stop using.  So it is either now or later.  If you choose later...come back then and post up your Day 1.  I would highly encourage starting now because chances of you coming back later with a 'future quit date' (as we have seen NUMEROUS times before from MANY on this site) results in a 1% chance that person actually comes back and an almost 100% chance that they fail in their quit since they have thought there was a cure.  This is an addiction - meaning it is lifelong. 

Join up and post Day 1.  The system here works if you buy into it.  Surrender yourself to the fact that you are an addict to nicotine and post up each day.

I hope you join up and choose this path.  We will all be here to support you.  In the end, only you can quit for yourself.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2020, 05:59:45 PM by Palpatine »
Good...good, let the quit flow through you!  -chewie

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Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« on: April 20, 2020, 05:19:34 PM »
So guess Ill stick here in the introductions forum until then...

Ive known about KilltheCan ever since its inception years and years ago, but up until recently, Ive never had a strong enough desire to quit, so I didnt't fucking care, lets just be honest. Even now, I dont want to quit, but because of my health, I seriously need to. Ive been in and out of the hospital most of my life due to health issues all stemming from nicotine use, and logic be damned, but my extremely addictive personality doesnt care about what happens to my health in the end apparantly. 

However here in the last few months Ive been increasingly worried about my health and just how long Ive got left if I continue down this nicotine road. Thus I am in the process of weaning myself off of the shit. Ive quit before, a few times actually, years ago, but I always started up again. Hell lets be honest, if I quit this time, I cant guarantee that I wont pick it up again some day in the future, long after Ive quit. Maybe thats why Im subconciously really here, to not only quit, but quit for good.

Anyways, enough with the same backstory thats been told 10000x already youve all heard before...

Ive been dipping since the military 12 years ago. Its where I started using tobacco, both smoking and dip. Ive been off and on both forms, if not all forms of nicotine since them. Currently for the last 5 years or so Ive been 100% dip. Im from rural midwest, so dip is pretty common and widely accepted. You see it everywhere, and you stand out like a sore thumb if you DONT use it... thats the culture here. Hence it makes it much harder to quit when its so common. 

At the moment, Im trying to wean myself off the real chew. Ive tried quitting cold turkey before and it causes more problems then cures. Ive only ever been able to wean myself off it, its the only thing that works. 

But unlike in the past where I always half assed all my attempts, and gave myself plenty of cheat days, Im really trying to stick to it this time. On average, before this new attempt, I was dipping for at least a solid 9 hours out of every 24. Currently Ive cut back to around 3 to 5. Ive been using Smokey Mountain, a brand Ive known about for many years. Real Dip every 4 hours if I want it, for 30 minutes, then take it out immediately and toss in the fake stuff for another hour or so. Its really been helpful in tricking my mind into thinking im still chewing.   
 
My goal is to continue like this for a week or two until I am comfortable with the new tolerance levels, and then go down to like 30 mins of real dip every 6 hours if i want it, 15 every 8 hours, etc. Its the only method thats ever managed to work for me. In the past I also always had a shitty job so coughing up money for fake chew on top of real chew was not logical. Not trying to brag, just saying I have the finances now to support the attempt this time. Ive got 3 cans of SM on hand, and 10 cans from Jakes on the way, with a 30 can order from SM on the way as well.

Never have I attempted this hard to quit by making a concrete effort financially to quit, so I really am hoping, almost praying Ive got the willpower this time to not let my money go to waste.
Yea, thats my story...