I have been chewing for 20 years... It's time.

[FISHFLORIDA]

@USMC_Ham , thank God I am a member on AR15.com and already have a functional understanding of forums and tagging, haha. After I made my first post, I noticed very quickly this is a shit or get off the pot type of crowd. I like that and find it encouraging. Much like the service, there is either DO or DONT. Try is just an excuse to fail.

One question I have after reading a few other posts, is triggers. Already, I have identified several triggers I have. Beer, Shooting, Camping, and just general guy stuff. I don't overly feel like quitting drinking beer and guns are a part of my job, so there is no quitting shooting. Any recommendations on keeping trigger activities in your life while quitting the can?

So are you going to DO or DON'T?  We all have triggers and that is why we swap digits.  This is a support site and we surely will support you, but you need to make a promise to stay quit for a day and keep your promise.

Apparently, it's not time...
When you're ready to be free from that nasty ass crap, come join the thousands of people that can say they are right here on KTC.  1692 days of quitting daily.  Never looked back.  Your life is waiting for you.

[Stranger999]

@USMC_Ham , thank God I am a member on AR15.com and already have a functional understanding of forums and tagging, haha. After I made my first post, I noticed very quickly this is a shit or get off the pot type of crowd. I like that and find it encouraging. Much like the service, there is either DO or DONT. Try is just an excuse to fail.

One question I have after reading a few other posts, is triggers. Already, I have identified several triggers I have. Beer, Shooting, Camping, and just general guy stuff. I don't overly feel like quitting drinking beer and guns are a part of my job, so there is no quitting shooting. Any recommendations on keeping trigger activities in your life while quitting the can?

So are you going to DO or DON'T?  We all have triggers and that is why we swap digits.  This is a support site and we surely will support you, but you need to make a promise to stay quit for a day and keep your promise.

[USMC_Ham]

@Dakota762 We see you lurking bud. Get on over to april and post your promise.

[CTF]

@Dakota762
I read through your original post and a couple things hit me. First you should change your mindset to beat this because you don't love to chew. Get it? You don't love chew. I understand what you are saying but nicotine is an evil bitch, a taker of things, and you would never love that. You are an addict, plain and simple, like all of us here, and the sooner you recognize that the better you will be. You would never love to get cancer or love to have your jaw sawed off, right? I think you get it.

Second, you have to do this for you and only you. I also understand what you are saying but like above it is a mindset that you need to do this for you and no one else. Think of this as a fight. Your wife can't fight this for you. Your only motivation needs to come from you. Others can support you but only you can walk that mile. Only you can say no I am not chewing and only you is accountable to yourself and the group. It's you and no one else.

Third, I like how HAG posted a very thoughtful and well framed argument. I am going to be a little more blunt. We all know that tobacco kills and we also know nicotine is a hell of a bitch to quit, right? Let me ask you if you were diagnosed with oral cancer wouldn't you have wished you would have quit? You then would realize you don't love it but you are addicted to it and under nicotine's spell and only you have the power to say no.

Lastly, I am challenging you to quit. I also like how Franx positioned his argument to you on quitting. Again blunt and I will tell you I don't think you can do it. Yep you read that right you can't do this. Many fail and it isn't easy but people get it done here everyday by simply promising not to ingest nicotine for today. Then we we do it again the next day and so on. Just worry about today, tomorrow will come. I challenge you and prove me wrong and you can tell me "to go to hell CTF" on your 10th day, 100th day, 200th day, year mark etc/whatever. You make it an I will support you the whole way.

Stay Strong and get it done.

CTF

I want in on this action.  I challenge you as well.  You can tell both CTF and me to go F off.  We got your back but you gotta want it for you and you have to put in the work to get there.

@chris2alaska I re-read his posts. He won't do it. He isn't ready. His words sound soft and squishy. He doesn't sound like a quitter yet. I hope I am wrong.

[chris2alaska]

@Dakota762
I read through your original post and a couple things hit me. First you should change your mindset to beat this because you don't love to chew. Get it? You don't love chew. I understand what you are saying but nicotine is an evil bitch, a taker of things, and you would never love that. You are an addict, plain and simple, like all of us here, and the sooner you recognize that the better you will be. You would never love to get cancer or love to have your jaw sawed off, right? I think you get it.

Second, you have to do this for you and only you. I also understand what you are saying but like above it is a mindset that you need to do this for you and no one else. Think of this as a fight. Your wife can't fight this for you. Your only motivation needs to come from you. Others can support you but only you can walk that mile. Only you can say no I am not chewing and only you is accountable to yourself and the group. It's you and no one else.

Third, I like how HAG posted a very thoughtful and well framed argument. I am going to be a little more blunt. We all know that tobacco kills and we also know nicotine is a hell of a bitch to quit, right? Let me ask you if you were diagnosed with oral cancer wouldn't you have wished you would have quit? You then would realize you don't love it but you are addicted to it and under nicotine's spell and only you have the power to say no.

Lastly, I am challenging you to quit. I also like how Franx positioned his argument to you on quitting. Again blunt and I will tell you I don't think you can do it. Yep you read that right you can't do this. Many fail and it isn't easy but people get it done here everyday by simply promising not to ingest nicotine for today. Then we we do it again the next day and so on. Just worry about today, tomorrow will come. I challenge you and prove me wrong and you can tell me "to go to hell CTF" on your 10th day, 100th day, 200th day, year mark etc/whatever. You make it an I will support you the whole way.

Stay Strong and get it done.

CTF

I want in on this action.  I challenge you as well.  You can tell both CTF and me to go F off.  We got your back but you gotta want it for you and you have to put in the work to get there. 

[nick-Otine Free]

@Dakota762  Man you want to quit or ya dont. we would love to have you in the april 2021 group. we would love to help save your life . this site is for you if your a dedicated , we dont want none of that weak shit and bullshit excuse of i do but i dont. How about you dont and never will because you want to have a furture life with your family and still have a face. again if your down to promise yourself and me and the rest of your soon to be april brothers that your a quiter and a hard quieter that will do anything to stay quit come on down and post roll. love to have ya

[CTF]

@Dakota762
I read through your original post and a couple things hit me. First you should change your mindset to beat this because you don't love to chew. Get it? You don't love chew. I understand what you are saying but nicotine is an evil bitch, a taker of things, and you would never love that. You are an addict, plain and simple, like all of us here, and the sooner you recognize that the better you will be. You would never love to get cancer or love to have your jaw sawed off, right? I think you get it.

Second, you have to do this for you and only you. I also understand what you are saying but like above it is a mindset that you need to do this for you and no one else. Think of this as a fight. Your wife can't fight this for you. Your only motivation needs to come from you. Others can support you but only you can walk that mile. Only you can say no I am not chewing and only you is accountable to yourself and the group. It's you and no one else.

Third, I like how HAG posted a very thoughtful and well framed argument. I am going to be a little more blunt. We all know that tobacco kills and we also know nicotine is a hell of a bitch to quit, right? Let me ask you if you were diagnosed with oral cancer wouldn't you have wished you would have quit? You then would realize you don't love it but you are addicted to it and under nicotine's spell and only you have the power to say no.

Lastly, I am challenging you to quit. I also like how Franx positioned his argument to you on quitting. Again blunt and I will tell you I don't think you can do it. Yep you read that right you can't do this. Many fail and it isn't easy but people get it done here everyday by simply promising not to ingest nicotine for today. Then we we do it again the next day and so on. Just worry about today, tomorrow will come. I challenge you and prove me wrong and you can tell me "to go to hell CTF" on your 10th day, 100th day, 200th day, year mark etc/whatever. You make it an I will support you the whole way.

Stay Strong and get it done.

CTF
 

[EXBEARHAG]

@Dakota762

For what it's worth, here's the train of thought that helped me take the leap to make my first promise here at KTC:

If you were diagnosed with a dip related illness, would you try to quit or would you continue using?
Do you believe that continued use will eventually result in a diagnosis?
If you would quit under the unfortunate circumstance of a diagnosis and believe that a diagnosis is inevitable if you continue to use, doesn't it make the most sense to just stop now?  Before a diagnosis?  Before that uncomfortable conversation with your family?  Your wife?  Your children?

I used a little longer than you did but I got to the point where a diagnosis would not have surprised me.  I almost expected it.  That scared the shit out of me!!

Tackle this like you've tackled everything else in your life to this point.  You can't half ass this and I think you know it.  Those 3 daily dips will turn into 4, then 5, etc.  Life will happen and justifications will be made.  We've all been there.

This place works!  You can muscle through just about anything for 24 hrs.  Wake, piss, post your promise and repeat.  There are dedicated people here who are willing to help for a number of reasons including the fact that it reinforces our resolve in our own quit.  The path is broken and beaten down and folks here can lead the way.

First step is to post roll in the new April group here: https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16868.0

Press the quote button and post your name, day count, and promise not to use nicotine with your new group mates.  KEEP YOUR PROMISE. Read info on the site (there's lots).  Make connections with your group mates and vets on the site.  Quit a day at a time.

Please reach out if I can help at all

~HAG

[69franx]

USMC has given you some good info. I have a question for you that may help straighten some of this out for you. You're a military guy. A man's man. I assume a man of your word, correct? We make a promise first thing everyday to not ingest nicotine in any form for 24 hours. Then we man up and keep our word for those 24 hours. The intention is to do the same again tomorrow, but today is the main focus, these 24 hours. Can you make a promise and keep it for 24 hours no matter what? The dog dies, no chew. Fired from job, no chew. A child, grandparent, best friend, or spouse dies: no chew. Life happens: no chew. That is what it means to be quit. That is what we mean when we say we quit for today and our word is our bond.
Wake
Up
Piss
Post/Promise  (WUUP)
Do whatever it takes to keep your word.
I know you can do that because I can.
Do you know it?
Are you willing to do it?
Like you said, there is no try,  no hope, no wishing, just quitting.
If you wind up with chew in your mouth again, that is a decision you made to break a promise and you don't sound like that type of man.
Just quit, make it happen!

[USMC_Ham]

@USMC_Ham , thank God I am a member on AR15.com and already have a functional understanding of forums and tagging, haha. After I made my first post, I noticed very quickly this is a shit or get off the pot type of crowd. I like that and find it encouraging. Much like the service, there is either DO or DONT. Try is just an excuse to fail.

One question I have after reading a few other posts, is triggers. Already, I have identified several triggers I have. Beer, Shooting, Camping, and just general guy stuff. I don't overly feel like quitting drinking beer and guns are a part of my job, so there is no quitting shooting. Any recommendations on keeping trigger activities in your life while quitting the can?

@Dakota762
They make a ton of fake chews out there that help a bunch in the beginning. Smokey Mountain is a tobacco nicotine free dip you can find at some Walmart. I substitute monsters for 2 of my biggest triggers. 1st thing and after lunch and that helps a ton.

It kind of boils down to we all have activities that we enjoyed to dip during bro. It is going to take a lot of will power to get through it. Avoid triggers early in your quit if you can and if you can't do everything in your power to quite for one Damn day. Promise the group first thing in the morning to not use nicotine and fucking keep it.

[Dakota762]

@USMC_Ham , thank God I am a member on AR15.com and already have a functional understanding of forums and tagging, haha. After I made my first post, I noticed very quickly this is a shit or get off the pot type of crowd. I like that and find it encouraging. Much like the service, there is either DO or DONT. Try is just an excuse to fail.

One question I have after reading a few other posts, is triggers. Already, I have identified several triggers I have. Beer, Shooting, Camping, and just general guy stuff. I don't overly feel like quitting drinking beer and guns are a part of my job, so there is no quitting shooting. Any recommendations on keeping trigger activities in your life while quitting the can?

[USMC_Ham]

Hey All,

    My boss referred me to this site. I'm 34 years old. Been chewing since I was 14. Was in high school wrestling and seen that the best wrestlers on the team chewed and had tattoos. Well, I was too young to get away with a tattoo, so I asked those older better wrestlers to buy me a can. That's how it all started. Chewed all through high school. Joined the Navy and chewed there too. Should have taken advantage of the seven week cold turkey advantage that boot camp gave me, but nope. Right back into it after boot camp. I remember going on deployments prepared with a wall locker full of cans of Grizzly straight. Got out of the Navy in 2010 and kept chewing. Chewed in college, chewed all the time. Chew was just my thing. Love to chew doing outdoor activities. I am a gun guy, so loved to throw a wad in while at the range, hunting, camping. Loved to throw a chew in while working on the truck, mowing the lawn, or doing any manly outdoor activity. Oh, and don't get me started on beer. Nothing goes better with an ice cold brew than a big ole' wad in my lip.

   I am a husband and a daddy now. There are two big problems there. #1, My wife desperately wants me to quit. I have hidden it from her in the past and pretended to quit, only to hurt her more with the dishonesty. #2, I want to quit for my kids. I don't want them to see that daddy has this weakness that he is beholden to. I am up front and honest with my wife now about the chew. She knows I chew. She hates it and doesn't hide it, but she is at least getting to be more positive about it and supportive. I have been tapering myself off for weeks. Down to two to three chews a day. Morning, with coffee. After lunch, and after dinner. This drives my wife nuts because she has never had an addiction and doesn't get the whole "craving after a meal or with coffee" thing. She never will understand, and thank the Lord for that. Wouldn't wish this shitty addiction on my worst enemy.

   Do I want to quit? Yes I do, but honestly. Sometimes I don't. I just really like that morning chew with the coffee. I like throwing a wad in at the range and slingin' some lead. I really HATE the weakness that comes with chew though and for that, I do want to quit. Looking forward to getting more plugged into this forum and gaining some wisdom from ya'll. Cheers.

Dakota762

@Dakota762

Why wait? Get on in here and post your promise to the group

https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16868.0

I told myself in the Marines it was something to do. 10 years later here we are. We do things 1 day at a time around here. There is a ton of quit knowledge in here if you are willing to make a promise and keep it. 

[Dakota762]

Hey All,

    My boss referred me to this site. I'm 34 years old. Been chewing since I was 14. Was in high school wrestling and seen that the best wrestlers on the team chewed and had tattoos. Well, I was too young to get away with a tattoo, so I asked those older better wrestlers to buy me a can. That's how it all started. Chewed all through high school. Joined the Navy and chewed there too. Should have taken advantage of the seven week cold turkey advantage that boot camp gave me, but nope. Right back into it after boot camp. I remember going on deployments prepared with a wall locker full of cans of Grizzly straight. Got out of the Navy in 2010 and kept chewing. Chewed in college, chewed all the time. Chew was just my thing. Love to chew doing outdoor activities. I am a gun guy, so loved to throw a wad in while at the range, hunting, camping. Loved to throw a chew in while working on the truck, mowing the lawn, or doing any manly outdoor activity. Oh, and don't get me started on beer. Nothing goes better with an ice cold brew than a big ole' wad in my lip.

   I am a husband and a daddy now. There are two big problems there. #1, My wife desperately wants me to quit. I have hidden it from her in the past and pretended to quit, only to hurt her more with the dishonesty. #2, I want to quit for my kids. I don't want them to see that daddy has this weakness that he is beholden to. I am up front and honest with my wife now about the chew. She knows I chew. She hates it and doesn't hide it, but she is at least getting to be more positive about it and supportive. I have been tapering myself off for weeks. Down to two to three chews a day. Morning, with coffee. After lunch, and after dinner. This drives my wife nuts because she has never had an addiction and doesn't get the whole "craving after a meal or with coffee" thing. She never will understand, and thank the Lord for that. Wouldn't wish this shitty addiction on my worst enemy.

   Do I want to quit? Yes I do, but honestly. Sometimes I don't. I just really like that morning chew with the coffee. I like throwing a wad in at the range and slingin' some lead. I really HATE the weakness that comes with chew though and for that, I do want to quit. Looking forward to getting more plugged into this forum and gaining some wisdom from ya'll. Cheers.

Dakota762