General Discussion - 2012

[mfkuss]

Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time. But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.

Mike,

Where you from in TN? I just booked a business trip to TN for next week Mon-Wed...

Anyone else from TN? I am going to be in the Smyrna, TN area for a couple nights if anyone wants to grab dinner or a beer.

~Kuss

[Mike_Land]

How can we get some meet and greets initiated? I would love to meet some of the guys in my area and especially guys who are in my quit group.

[Mike_Land]

Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time. But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.

[Mike_Land]

I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!

Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.

You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.

Welcome to the site.

You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.

chewie

Herbie ya got some heavy hitters offering you a helping hand...My advice: Grab hold and hold on like your life depends upon it...because it does!

Ask yourself a question: Do you want to Be Quit or do you want to talk about quitting...someday?

MOA

Herbie, there is a shit ton of Quit right here, right now, offering you the lifeline you're looking for.

But its right here.

Right.

Now.

Herbie, Do IT NOW!! No time like the present to quit. There is no good, bad or best time to quit.. There is only now. It's going to suck no matter when you do it so you might as well embrace the suck and get to it.

Another thing. Someone corrected me recently on my use of the word "Habit". This is not a habit we have. A habit is saying "you know" and "So" after every phrase you say. Habit is scratching your nuts and adjusting your sack all the time. Or it could be a serious medical condition and you better go get your nuts checked! :wacko:

What we have here with the Nic Bitch is a full blown "ADDICTION" It's no different than someone hooked on crack, or meth, or heroine or any other drug. Again, this is not a habit, it is an addiction. Get used to that word. you will hear it alot.

You have a bunch of brothers here who will help you through all the tough spots with your quit if you will let them. PM me. I'll support you all that I can. I'm a 36 year user and i'm on my 12th day of my quit. I know how tough it is. So stop the date setting crap. Start NOW!!

[Nolaq]

I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!

Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.

You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.

Welcome to the site.

You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.

chewie

Herbie ya got some heavy hitters offering you a helping hand...My advice: Grab hold and hold on like your life depends upon it...because it does!

Ask yourself a question: Do you want to Be Quit or do you want to talk about quitting...someday?

MOA

Herbie, there is a shit ton of Quit right here, right now, offering you the lifeline you're looking for.

But its right here.

Right.

Now.

[grizzlysnuffer]

I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!

Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.

You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.

Welcome to the site.

You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.

chewie

Herbie ya got some heavy hitters offering you a helping hand...My advice: Grab hold and hold on like your life depends upon it...because it does!

Ask yourself a question: Do you want to Be Quit or do you want to talk about quitting...someday?

MOA

Herbie, best decision I made was just to quit. Think of it this way. When was the best time to plant a tree. 20 years ago. The second best time is right now. Take your life back. I quit with you today!

[minuteofangle]

I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!

Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.

You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.

Welcome to the site.

You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.

chewie

Herbie ya got some heavy hitters offering you a helping hand...My advice: Grab hold and hold on like your life depends upon it...because it does!

Ask yourself a question: Do you want to Be Quit or do you want to talk about quitting...someday?

MOA

[chewie]

I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!

Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.

You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.

Welcome to the site.

You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.

chewie

[loot]

I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!

Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.

You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.

Welcome to the site.

[herbie1234]

I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!

[loot]

For no apparent reason I just seem to be pissed.  I am pissed at myself for getting hooked on this shit to begin with.  I'm pissed at my parents because they did not forbid me to use chewing tobacco.  i'm pissed that I spent so much money on a stupid habit.  I'm pissed that I swallowed the whole "Just a pinch between your cheek and gum" spill hook line and sinker.  Can you believe I really believed that using skoal made me cool? 

i'm pissed because there is no reward at the end.  This is a forever deal.  I will always be quitting.  There will not be a day at the end when it will be ok for me to take a log of RedSeal fine cut wintergreen to the lake and use up the whole log while fishing the day away.  There will never be a day when I can have "just one" and it be ok.  No, that would be disaster and we would start at day one with "the suck"  again.  Then I would really be pissed!

I am trying to tell me wife I love her and she just needs to bear with me through all this bullshit.  Even she pisses me off sometimes. 

I didn't say any of it made sense.  It's just the way I feel at the moment.  A very large cloud os pissiness! 

I know!  This too shall pass.

Thanks for providing a place where I can come and just vent.  No matter how much or how little sense it might make.

Rant on brother.

Know this. Freedom is the reward... here's something from my intro:

Day 57

Life just keeps getting better. I took my daughter to church last night, I was happy to take her. I'm ashamed to admit that was not always the case: drive time used to be my time to feed my addiction,  passengers were not welcome.

I paused yesterday to think about how my family always got to see me at my worst, they always got to see me in withdrawal, when I couldn't wait to sneak away and feed the need. The nic-be-otch and I always met in secret.  I'm not her prisoner any more....

The chains are falling away....

30

There is a reward. There are lots of them. You just can't see them thru the fog of a new quit. Here is just a small list of rewards LOOT has gained:
- 2 kids that will never, ever know their daddy is an addict, even tho he knows it all too well.
- can kiss Mrs. LOOT anytime, anyplace, anywhere and not have to worry
- can go anyplace, anytime, and anywhere ol LOOT wants and not have to make sure there is enough Copenhagen to last or there is a place to get it.
- no hidden cans. no hidden spit bottles.
- Momma LOOT is proud...damned proud of her son. And 7.5+ years later, she still lets him know.

LOOT's got it made bro. No craves. No hidden triggers to deal with. Nothing...at all, ever.

You'd walk thru fire to live in these shoes for 1 single day...and the fuct up part of it is...you will before it's over with. It's the nature of the beast. It's the way it's gotta be. And LOOT wouldn't want it any other way for you. It comes with a price for a reason. But, you know this don't you?

[30yraddict]

For no apparent reason I just seem to be pissed. I am pissed at myself for getting hooked on this shit to begin with. I'm pissed at my parents because they did not forbid me to use chewing tobacco. i'm pissed that I spent so much money on a stupid habit. I'm pissed that I swallowed the whole "Just a pinch between your cheek and gum" spill hook line and sinker. Can you believe I really believed that using skoal made me cool?

i'm pissed because there is no reward at the end. This is a forever deal. I will always be quitting. There will not be a day at the end when it will be ok for me to take a log of RedSeal fine cut wintergreen to the lake and use up the whole log while fishing the day away. There will never be a day when I can have "just one" and it be ok. No, that would be disaster and we would start at day one with "the suck" again. Then I would really be pissed!

I am trying to tell me wife I love her and she just needs to bear with me through all this bullshit. Even she pisses me off sometimes.

I didn't say any of it made sense. It's just the way I feel at the moment. A very large cloud os pissiness!

I know! This too shall pass.

Thanks for providing a place where I can come and just vent. No matter how much or how little sense it might make.

Rant on brother.

Know this. Freedom is the reward... here's something from my intro:

Day 57

Life just keeps getting better. I took my daughter to church last night, I was happy to take her. I'm ashamed to admit that was not always the case: drive time used to be my time to feed my addiction,  passengers were not welcome.

I paused yesterday to think about how my family always got to see me at my worst, they always got to see me in withdrawal, when I couldn't wait to sneak away and feed the need. The nic-be-otch and I always met in secret.  I'm not her prisoner any more....

The chains are falling away....

30

[Mike_Land]

For no apparent reason I just seem to be pissed. I am pissed at myself for getting hooked on this shit to begin with. I'm pissed at my parents because they did not forbid me to use chewing tobacco. i'm pissed that I spent so much money on a stupid habit. I'm pissed that I swallowed the whole "Just a pinch between your cheek and gum" spill hook line and sinker. Can you believe I really believed that using skoal made me cool?

i'm pissed because there is no reward at the end. This is a forever deal. I will always be quitting. There will not be a day at the end when it will be ok for me to take a log of RedSeal fine cut wintergreen to the lake and use up the whole log while fishing the day away. There will never be a day when I can have "just one" and it be ok. No, that would be disaster and we would start at day one with "the suck" again. Then I would really be pissed!

I am trying to tell me wife I love her and she just needs to bear with me through all this bullshit. Even she pisses me off sometimes.

I didn't say any of it made sense. It's just the way I feel at the moment. A very large cloud os pissiness!

I know! This too shall pass.

Thanks for providing a place where I can come and just vent. No matter how much or how little sense it might make.

[Kubiak]

Alright guys day 20 and I keep getting grouchier. I'm snapping at small things like when people don't get to the pint when they're talking to me. My work crew and I had a great relationship but now they're stand offish. Which I understand. My quit is staying strong and I'm not urging I just want any advice on dealing with the rage. It comes from nowhere and blindsides me 'bang head'

You're starting to enter the first major funk, this will pass. As far as the rage goes, dump it on us, come in chat and scream all you want! Let it all hang out here so you can be better there. Quit with you today.

Dude I hear ya, that was the worst, "JUST GET TO THE FUCKING POINT ALREADY!!!" or when people used pronouns I'd say "WHO'S THEY!!!!!"

Roam's right, it does get better, this isn't permanent.

[Roamcountry]

Alright guys day 20 and I keep getting grouchier. I'm snapping at small things like when people don't get to the pint when they're talking to me. My work crew and I had a great relationship but now they're stand offish. Which I understand. My quit is staying strong and I'm not urging I just want any advice on dealing with the rage. It comes from nowhere and blindsides me 'bang head'

You're starting to enter the first major funk, this will pass. As far as the rage goes, dump it on us, come in chat and scream all you want! Let it all hang out here so you can be better there. Quit with you today.