Roll Call 2007

[imskratty]

Good morning fellow quitters. Another fine weekend to be free from tobacco!

[Killerattorney]

Tell ya what- once you find a cure, let me know. Until then, my wife will stay on the meds unless she wants a divorce. Her "gift" nearly destroyed our marriage a couple of times(the first time was my fault because I believed similarly as you chief and had her get off the meds) and it is always there on the horizon. You got a heart of gold Chief, but deal with these issues long enough, it takes the idealism right out of it.

I agree, 030507...I suppose only those of us that have bipolar or have lived with someone who has it can truly understand what it is, just like only a dip addict can understand what another dip addict is going through.

[chewie]

THE DECISION

Quitting dip comes down to one thing... a decision to quit. I can't spell it out any simpler than that. Sure, it's much easier for me to say that today now that I've quit than it would have been on day 1 or day 10, but every day that goes by, I believe it more and more.

I'm not here to tell you that the decision is easy to make because it's certainly not. There are some days when the decision is downright nearly impossible to make. But it's a decision that needs to be made no a daily basis.

There are many things in our lives and in our quits that we have no control over. We can't control the weather, we can't control how people view us, we can't control what happens at the office, we can't control whether we are sick. In our quits, we can't control the withdrawal that we go through, we can't control WHAT symptoms we'll experience nor can we control how long those symptoms persist.

To look at it that way doesn't look good. But remember... the decision.

You can DECIDE to put a dip in.
You can DECIDE to NOT put a dip in.
You can DECIDE whether you want to continue to be a slave to the can.
You can DECIDE to LIVE your life WITHOUT dip.

I've had conversations with other quitters and cavers. I've been asked what makes me different (than someone who's struggling). The answer is simple... I made my decision. I'm not any stronger, I'm not any better and quite frankly I'm not any different. I'm an addict just like all of you... I made my decision. I made my decision this morning just like I have every morning since July 24th. I'll make a decision tomorrow as well.

When you're thinking that quitting isn't possible... when you're thinking that everything is out of your control and you NEED your dip... make a decision.

You're in a place where people can help you once you're made your decision but we can't make it for you. We're here to help.

DECIDE to let us help.
DECIDE to not dip today.
DECIDE to live life WITHOUT dip or chew.
DECIDE to live.

This thing is simple -- it's decision time my friend...

chewie

[chewie]

take the step!

[chewie]

come on in lurkers... make a change in your life today!

[chiefman31]

You see, I would look at Bipolar as a "gift" rather than a disorder.

. . . .

Just food for thought here, let me know what you all think?

As someone who lived with a manic-depressive for 8+ years, I can tell you that bipolar disorder is not a "gift". It is a debilitating condition that can disrupt families and lead to tragic outcomes. But with proper medication and counseling, it can be managed these days so that the patient can lead an otherwise perfectly normal life. Sure, some people may be misdiagnosed. And some people have varying degrees of manic-depression. Thankfully, my wife (now ex) was and is able to care for her kids and work as an aid at the local school. Her condition was not as severe as some people's is. Being diagnosed with bipolar disorder does not have to mean your life ends, but rather, if treated correctly, it can open up new horizons for the person who before could not understand why they became so moody and depressed at times, yet so outgoing and full of energy at other times.

And as long as an individual does nothing to harm society or him/her self then these "manic" phases can be used for great advancement and achievement.

Again, here comes the great debate, I feel you need to treat and console the individuals that are on the extremes. People who sit on the fringe of the extremes. The greater question should be, what effects do these prescription drugs have on an individual (both short and long term)?

This is why I'm a strong proponent of further studying and understanding of the human mind through ethical yet unbiased research.

Tell ya what- once you find a cure, let me know. Until then, my wife will stay on the meds unless she wants a divorce. Her "gift" nearly destroyed our marriage a couple of times(the first time was my fault because I believed similarly as you chief and had her get off the meds) and it is always there on the horizon. You got a heart of gold Chief, but deal with these issues long enough, it takes the idealism right out of it.

I hear your words 030507. And from hearing from people like you just strenghtens my resolve and drive to further my education through Nano-technology and Bio-electrical engineering. I really feel if these two new technologies are explored further steps can be made in the areas of human psychology.

I also have taken the drug route for almost 5 months now and I would be in a far darker place than I find myself now. I just feel that the body with the help of nonintrusive technology (i.e. non prescription drugs) can greatly benefit in understanding these "disorders/traits", whatever you wish to call them.

Call it my next purpose in life.

[030507]

You see, I would look at Bipolar as a "gift" rather than a disorder.

. . . .

Just food for thought here, let me know what you all think?

As someone who lived with a manic-depressive for 8+ years, I can tell you that bipolar disorder is not a "gift". It is a debilitating condition that can disrupt families and lead to tragic outcomes. But with proper medication and counseling, it can be managed these days so that the patient can lead an otherwise perfectly normal life. Sure, some people may be misdiagnosed. And some people have varying degrees of manic-depression. Thankfully, my wife (now ex) was and is able to care for her kids and work as an aid at the local school. Her condition was not as severe as some people's is. Being diagnosed with bipolar disorder does not have to mean your life ends, but rather, if treated correctly, it can open up new horizons for the person who before could not understand why they became so moody and depressed at times, yet so outgoing and full of energy at other times.

And as long as an individual does nothing to harm society or him/her self then these "manic" phases can be used for great advancement and achievement.

Again, here comes the great debate, I feel you need to treat and console the individuals that are on the extremes. People who sit on the fringe of the extremes. The greater question should be, what effects do these prescription drugs have on an individual (both short and long term)?

This is why I'm a strong proponent of further studying and understanding of the human mind through ethical yet unbiased research.

Tell ya what- once you find a cure, let me know. Until then, my wife will stay on the meds unless she wants a divorce. Her "gift" nearly destroyed our marriage a couple of times(the first time was my fault because I believed similarly as you chief and had her get off the meds) and it is always there on the horizon. You got a heart of gold Chief, but deal with these issues long enough, it takes the idealism right out of it.

[chewie]

chewie's tip of the day


Don't quit quitting until you quit.

[chewie]

happy friday quitters! if you're not quit yet, there's no time like RIGHT NOW!

[QuittinTime]

Good morning all you quitters. :D
MLS, if you find out what "normal" is let me know. _

[Killerattorney]

Good morning, mls and odt and the rest of you quitters!

[mylilsecret]

Good Morning Quitters!






chief - right now, To me I feel like it's messy up my life maybe after the right therapy or meds I won't feel so out of control, yanno? But I like the question - who's to say what is normal?

[outdoortexan]

Great Friday morning quitters !!

[chiefman31]

You see, I would look at Bipolar as a "gift" rather than a disorder.

. . . .

Just food for thought here, let me know what you all think?

As someone who lived with a manic-depressive for 8+ years, I can tell you that bipolar disorder is not a "gift". It is a debilitating condition that can disrupt families and lead to tragic outcomes. But with proper medication and counseling, it can be managed these days so that the patient can lead an otherwise perfectly normal life. Sure, some people may be misdiagnosed. And some people have varying degrees of manic-depression. Thankfully, my wife (now ex) was and is able to care for her kids and work as an aid at the local school. Her condition was not as severe as some people's is. Being diagnosed with bipolar disorder does not have to mean your life ends, but rather, if treated correctly, it can open up new horizons for the person who before could not understand why they became so moody and depressed at times, yet so outgoing and full of energy at other times.

And as long as an individual does nothing to harm society or him/her self then these "manic" phases can be used for great advancement and achievement.

Again, here comes the great debate, I feel you need to treat and console the individuals that are on the extremes. People who sit on the fringe of the extremes. The greater question should be, what effects do these prescription drugs have on an individual (both short and long term)?

This is why I'm a strong proponent of further studying and understanding of the human mind through ethical yet unbiased research.

[Killerattorney]

You see, I would look at Bipolar as a "gift" rather than a disorder.

. . . .

Just food for thought here, let me know what you all think?

As someone who lived with a manic-depressive for 8+ years, I can tell you that bipolar disorder is not a "gift". It is a debilitating condition that can disrupt families and lead to tragic outcomes. But with proper medication and counseling, it can be managed these days so that the patient can lead an otherwise perfectly normal life. Sure, some people may be misdiagnosed. And some people have varying degrees of manic-depression. Thankfully, my wife (now ex) was and is able to care for her kids and work as an aid at the local school. Her condition was not as severe as some people's is. Being diagnosed with bipolar disorder does not have to mean your life ends, but rather, if treated correctly, it can open up new horizons for the person who before could not understand why they became so moody and depressed at times, yet so outgoing and full of energy at other times.