General Discussion - 2010

[chewie]

It's been awhile since I've traveled here. And on many levels I have missed helping, talking and at times even laughing with most of you. As some of you know back in January I had a slip and fall and hurt my back. The Dr. that I went to see prescribed me Oxycontin. At first I couldn't take it since it made me very sleepy so he changed it to Lortab but yet this still didn't help with my back pain. He asked if I want to go back to the Oxycontin and I said yes. Then my son was admitted to the hospital with kidney problems and I stayed there the whole time, doing everything for him since they had to put IV's in each of his arms. I was stressed and my pain had increased since I wasn't able to baby my back like I had been since Jan. I increased my medication. Doing this sent my body out of control and left me feeling different when I returned home and didn't need to take as much since I was able to rest and not be up and down. I cut myself off and went through the worst withdraws. I was cold then hot, sweaty, nausea, throwing up and on and on. At the time, I believe I had some kind of flu though but when I was still feeling this way after 48 grueling hours I felt it was something else. I decided to get a second opinion with a Dr. who had done my neck surgury after my accident. He couldn't believe I was on 30 mg and that I was popping two at a time. He said I was lucky that it didn't kill me. I gave him the rest of my meds and he prescribed me something lower yet I still can't come to take anything though my back hurts. I guess I'm scared. I don't want to ever have to feel that way again. The Dr. hadn't told me about how addictive this drug can be. Today is the first actual day I've felt like myself. I just wanted to let you all know I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park. Thanks for taking the time to read this. If I can stay quit so can you.

Nickie

I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park.

PHENOMENAL!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for stopping by Nick! Keep on keeping on lady - you're a continued inspiration...

[ChoosingIntegrity]

It's been awhile since I've traveled here. And on many levels I have missed helping, talking and at times even laughing with most of you. As some of you know back in January I had a slip and fall and hurt my back. The Dr. that I went to see prescribed me Oxycontin. At first I couldn't take it since it made me very sleepy so he changed it to Lortab but yet this still didn't help with my back pain. He asked if I want to go back to the Oxycontin and I said yes. Then my son was admitted to the hospital with kidney problems and I stayed there the whole time, doing everything for him since they had to put IV's in each of his arms. I was stressed and my pain had increased since I wasn't able to baby my back like I had been since Jan. I increased my medication. Doing this sent my body out of control and left me feeling different when I returned home and didn't need to take as much since I was able to rest and not be up and down. I cut myself off and went through the worst withdraws. I was cold then hot, sweaty, nausea, throwing up and on and on. At the time, I believe I had some kind of flu though but when I was still feeling this way after 48 grueling hours I felt it was something else. I decided to get a second opinion with a Dr. who had done my neck surgury after my accident. He couldn't believe I was on 30 mg and that I was popping two at a time. He said I was lucky that it didn't kill me. I gave him the rest of my meds and he prescribed me something lower yet I still can't come to take anything though my back hurts. I guess I'm scared. I don't want to ever have to feel that way again. The Dr. hadn't told me about how addictive this drug can be. Today is the first actual day I've felt like myself. I just wanted to let you all know I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park. Thanks for taking the time to read this. If I can stay quit so can you.

Nickie

I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park.

PHENOMENAL!!!!!!!!!!!

[PieRat]

It's been awhile since I've traveled here. And on many levels I have missed helping, talking and at times even laughing with most of you. As some of you know back in January I had a slip and fall and hurt my back. The Dr. that I went to see prescribed me Oxycontin. At first I couldn't take it since it made me very sleepy so he changed it to Lortab but yet this still didn't help with my back pain. He asked if I want to go back to the Oxycontin and I said yes. Then my son was admitted to the hospital with kidney problems and I stayed there the whole time, doing everything for him since they had to put IV's in each of his arms. I was stressed and my pain had increased since I wasn't able to baby my back like I had been since Jan. I increased my medication. Doing this sent my body out of control and left me feeling different when I returned home and didn't need to take as much since I was able to rest and not be up and down. I cut myself off and went through the worst withdraws. I was cold then hot, sweaty, nausea, throwing up and on and on. At the time, I believe I had some kind of flu though but when I was still feeling this way after 48 grueling hours I felt it was something else. I decided to get a second opinion with a Dr. who had done my neck surgury after my accident. He couldn't believe I was on 30 mg and that I was popping two at a time. He said I was lucky that it didn't kill me. I gave him the rest of my meds and he prescribed me something lower yet I still can't come to take anything though my back hurts. I guess I'm scared. I don't want to ever have to feel that way again. The Dr. hadn't told me about how addictive this drug can be. Today is the first actual day I've felt like myself. I just wanted to let you all know I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park. Thanks for taking the time to read this. If I can stay quit so can you.

Nickie

Wow,

Really puts a lot of things into perspective for me to read that.

Mad props to for dealing with all that you have on your plate!

Prayers for you as well.

If you can be strong going thru all of that then I know I can stick with my quit!

[mylilsecret]

It's been awhile since I've traveled here. And on many levels I have missed helping, talking and at times even laughing with most of you. As some of you know back in January I had a slip and fall and hurt my back. The Dr. that I went to see prescribed me Oxycontin. At first I couldn't take it since it made me very sleepy so he changed it to Lortab but yet this still didn't help with my back pain. He asked if I want to go back to the Oxycontin and I said yes. Then my son was admitted to the hospital with kidney problems and I stayed there the whole time, doing everything for him since they had to put IV's in each of his arms. I was stressed and my pain had increased since I wasn't able to baby my back like I had been since Jan. I increased my medication. Doing this sent my body out of control and left me feeling different when I returned home and didn't need to take as much since I was able to rest and not be up and down. I cut myself off and went through the worst withdraws. I was cold then hot, sweaty, nausea, throwing up and on and on. At the time, I believe I had some kind of flu though but when I was still feeling this way after 48 grueling hours I felt it was something else. I decided to get a second opinion with a Dr. who had done my neck surgury after my accident. He couldn't believe I was on 30 mg and that I was popping two at a time. He said I was lucky that it didn't kill me. I gave him the rest of my meds and he prescribed me something lower yet I still can't come to take anything though my back hurts. I guess I'm scared. I don't want to ever have to feel that way again. The Dr. hadn't told me about how addictive this drug can be. Today is the first actual day I've felt like myself. I just wanted to let you all know I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park. Thanks for taking the time to read this. If I can stay quit so can you.

Nickie

[PieRat]

I want to scream today! If I do it will be in the face of the Nic bitch!

[Death2Dip]

Yeah, NRT is the biggest crock-o-shit out there. Every time I have tried to quit 2-3 times, I used the lozenges..lasted about 7 days each time. Prior to all that BS i did just up and quit cold turkey for 4 months. I don't recall why I restarted but I'm sure it was a retarted reason.

I'm just now ending day 3 coming out of the heavy fog. I felt good today actually but am about out of fake snuff and wont leave work until Saturday morning. Time will tell how I handle that shit.

Cold fucking turkey is the only way to go. I went cold and had seeds and a shit TON of water. Its either your time or its not.

Stay sharp and keep the nic bitch at bay!!

[TortillaJesus]

Yeah, NRT is the biggest crock-o-shit out there. Every time I have tried to quit 2-3 times, I used the lozenges..lasted about 7 days each time. Prior to all that BS i did just up and quit cold turkey for 4 months. I don't recall why I restarted but I'm sure it was a retarted reason.

I'm just now ending day 3 coming out of the heavy fog. I felt good today actually but am about out of fake snuff and wont leave work until Saturday morning. Time will tell how I handle that shit.

[cdeloac]

Do not post roll if you are using NRT....  !!!!

I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..

Simple, spit out the gum and post day 1. It really IS that easy.

Dean, you are right. The gum is not the same as snuff, and that's kind of the point. I've tried it before and it doesn't work/makes quitting harder.

The way I look at it, the discomfort you feel from the gum is about a 3 or 5 or something since you've reduced the amount of nicotine you are ingesting. Cold Turkey is about (exactly) a 10. The bad news? It doesn't matter how long you withstand the 3 level, when you finally kick the gum, and all other nicotine, guess what level of discomfort that is? Yep, a 10. Your body can't really start healing itself and untangling the wires in your nervous system until you completely stop feeding it the drug.

NRT's were basically just another form of denial for me. On the bright side, I was really stimulating the medical industry economy with all the money I wasted on gum for a minute there. These guys probably aren't quite as bad as US Tobacco, but they might be just as full of shit.

Either way, you can't post roll until you are nic free, so toss the gum, post day one, embrace the suck, and let the healing begin.

My company offers a cessation program for smokers and dippers. I called them when I decided to quit and they sent me four boxes of the gum for free. I think I chewed maybe 10 pieces before I said screw this and quit the right way. The gum was WAY to much work for me. Chew until you feel the tingle and park it in your upper lip for one minute and repeat.

[teamgreen]

Do not post roll if you are using NRT....  !!!!

I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..

Simple, spit out the gum and post day 1. It really IS that easy.

Dean, you are right. The gum is not the same as snuff, and that's kind of the point. I've tried it before and it doesn't work/makes quitting harder.

The way I look at it, the discomfort you feel from the gum is about a 3 or 5 or something since you've reduced the amount of nicotine you are ingesting. Cold Turkey is about (exactly) a 10. The bad news? It doesn't matter how long you withstand the 3 level, when you finally kick the gum, and all other nicotine, guess what level of discomfort that is? Yep, a 10. Your body can't really start healing itself and untangling the wires in your nervous system until you completely stop feeding it the drug.

NRT's were basically just another form of denial for me. On the bright side, I was really stimulating the medical industry economy with all the money I wasted on gum for a minute there. These guys probably aren't quite as bad as US Tobacco, but they might be just as full of shit.

Either way, you can't post roll until you are nic free, so toss the gum, post day one, embrace the suck, and let the healing begin.

[MikeA]

Do not post roll if you are using NRT....  !!!!

I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..

Simple, spit out the gum and post day 1. It really IS that easy.

[Deancraig]

Do not post roll if you are using NRT.... !!!!

I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..

[Greg5280]

Do not post roll if you are using NRT.... !!!!

[Pelican]

I have to definitely agree with Mike here. When I was quitting the odd time the argument would arise about the gum, with some guys saying that "it's not tobacco!", even one guy who thought it was okay to have a few smokes. We had to get off the nicotine, bottom line. Then again, that's just what I think (well and Mike, but don't get me started on EVERYTHING that he thinks :D).

[MikeA]

New blog post: Does It Ever Get Easier?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=420

Does anyone use the nicotine gum??

If you are, you better not be posting roll call with a bunch of guys who are cold turkey.
Nic gum and patches will only pro long the withdraw period. Why would you want to do that?

[Deancraig]

New blog post: Does It Ever Get Easier?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=420

Does anyone use the nicotine gum??