General Discussion - 2018

[Athan]

“…And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again…”

Get a piece of paper and a pencil. Really, go ahead and get it, IÂ’ll wait.
ThereÂ’s something profound in the tangible written word. LetÂ’s play a little fill in the blankÂ….

I have been dipping for ______________ years
Post that where you can see it DAILY.

If you join us, youÂ’ll post your quit and how many days youÂ’re quit DAILY.

ThereÂ’s something profound in the tangible written wordÂ….

I hope you find a thousand reasons to quit today!

P.S. Time is not on your side

[Athan]

WeÂ’ve discussed a few times the excuses for not quitting.
Today IÂ’d like us to explore this from the angle of WHY you put one in.
Note that itÂ’s singular, not plural like excuses.
I know, you’re saying, “geez Athan, there’s a million good reasons. Like how the steak is retroactively better if I throw a chew in after it. Or how I am really in the zone putting in that last 100 feet of fence or splitting that last cord of wood, etc. etc.”
I hear you. I was there not long ago.
What you are experiencing is the addict mind and its association with the many facets of your life that nicotine has attached itself to.
The only reason you put one in is because youÂ’re an addict.
IÂ’m here to tell you that it doesnÂ’t have to be that way.
You werenÂ’t born with a chew in; you enjoyed life before it.
You can enjoy life without it again.
All it takes is a decision.

I hope you find a thousand reasons to quit today!

[Athan]

Are you enjoying good health today? Think about that for a second.
In a way, youÂ’re like a fish thatÂ’s not cognizant that itÂ’s wet. ThatÂ’s all itÂ’s ever known.
So it is for us who are born healthy; we tend to take it for granted.
To go on using with full knowledge of the risks involved is to squander the good health youÂ’ve been blessed with.
I tell you the truth, right now this very day, there is someone in your community who would trade places with you in a second simply to have your health.
IÂ’m willing to bet they wouldnÂ’t squander it on tobacco.

I hope you find a thousand reasons to quit today.

[chewie]

The FDA just moved to limit the amount of nicotine in cigarettes
http://ti.me/2pcHvMe

[Athan]

I am on day 12 and I have no intention of turning back now. It has been a long road and made my first mistake at just 16 years old. Now I am a 25 year old man who has had enough manipulation by nicotine. I grew up in a farming community where it is already a natural trend and lifestyle to begin with. Right after graduation I joined the Army and was in the Infantry for 4 years. Dipping honestly really did help in combat, we did not have many smokers because Taliban snipers were trained to aim for the cherry of the cigarette, so dip was the choice of us all for the most part. Sometimes when we were out of dip we would even rip cigarettes in half and put the dry tobacco buds in our mouth, we simply did this to stay awake. I am sure there are many other vets on here so we all know that story. I have been out since 2015 and have been in college ever since, now I am a junior and have even played D2 football for the past 3 years. Things were going great with trying to give up dipping until I walked on the football team, I guess the younger guys just made me feel "cool" again. It is coming up on almost a decade of me being manipulated by the tobacco industry and I have always had self motivation for myself. I think this time mentally I could honestly use a push. Instead of running 96 hours of recon missions at night I now find myself pushing out 10-15 page papers and a dip always helped me or was it? To top this all off cancer runs in my family and my mom is a medical professional in the oncology field. I look forward to hearing from you all.

Blessings, cheers to a addiction free life - Hendo

Good morning! I hope you find a thousand reasons to quit today.
Welcome aboard. Attack submarines 8 years, 10 mos, 26 days. The novelty wore off so I got out (in '96).
I've got some links in my signature. They're useful. As a combat veteran I expect you to know the value of knowing your enemy.
Knowledge is power, ignorance is terribly expensive.
Just sent you my digits.

[HEND0]

I am on day 12 and I have no intention of turning back now. It has been a long road and made my first mistake at just 16 years old. Now I am a 25 year old man who has had enough manipulation by nicotine. I grew up in a farming community where it is already a natural trend and lifestyle to begin with. Right after graduation I joined the Army and was in the Infantry for 4 years. Dipping honestly really did help in combat, we did not have many smokers because Taliban snipers were trained to aim for the cherry of the cigarette, so dip was the choice of us all for the most part. Sometimes when we were out of dip we would even rip cigarettes in half and put the dry tobacco buds in our mouth, we simply did this to stay awake. I am sure there are many other vets on here so we all know that story. I have been out since 2015 and have been in college ever since, now I am a junior and have even played D2 football for the past 3 years. Things were going great with trying to give up dipping until I walked on the football team, I guess the younger guys just made me feel "cool" again. It is coming up on almost a decade of me being manipulated by the tobacco industry and I have always had self motivation for myself. I think this time mentally I could honestly use a push. Instead of running 96 hours of recon missions at night I now find myself pushing out 10-15 page papers and a dip always helped me or was it? To top this all off cancer runs in my family and my mom is a medical professional in the oncology field. I look forward to hearing from you all.

Blessings, cheers to a addiction free life - Hendo

[Athan]

Good morning, may you find a thousand reasons to quit today!

Is your lip shredded, does it hurt?
Mine doesnÂ’t
Does it stick out like the big lipped dogs of the Serengeti?
Mine doesnÂ’t
You still chasing the empty promise of the can?
IÂ’m not
You planning when the next fix will be?
IÂ’m not
You want to be free from dependency?
I AM.

[Athan]

May you find a 1000 reasons to quit!

That's my new greeting.
Good morning, may you find a thousand reasons to quit today!

[Rawls]

I'm concerned how my wife feels at my funeral.
I have buried a friend and my father in law has had his tongue replaced with a muscle in his forearm. Eats three times a day though a tube in his stomach..... Marine tough. Will die soon.
I tried using "if I dip again. .. I'll die... Also!
Kept doing it.
Then I was in hospital for nine days with major lung issues and realized I could die.
Dieing Will wake you up.
Thinking of dieing may not.
Guess every person has different motivations to quit.
Mine were coming face to face with understanding the truth of life and death.
Appreciate your words.
May you find a 1000 reasons to quit!
You helped my quit today.
I quit with you.
Rawls out... 1213

[swimdad]

Quit 10 days ago. Have no idea how to use this site. It's so frustrating. This is literally the only place I can find to type. bs

[Athan]

"....The problem with only quitting cause it'll kill you, is you already knew that every time you buy the can..."

That's the insanity of addiction. Too true brother. I'm so with you. You're quit is my quit.

[Gromo]

Just an extra reason why to hate that nic bitch
The thing that still gets me is the negative effect of dip on my marriage.

How many times I've chosen dip over fucking my wife.
How many times I wasn't able to kiss my wife more intimately than a peck on the lips because of having a dip in
How, and this is a long one, my wife must have felt when I caved. I think on how I would feel if a brother here caves that I have only known for 2 months. Shit lets make it more intense lets say a brother here that I talk to frequently, daily, hourly...How betrayed I would feel, how pissed off I'd be. Over people I've never met face to face. Fuckin how pissed we all were at Danny for Lying about caving on roll for two days. Now putting myself in my wife's shoes. Thinking how she must have felt when I told her I'd quit, how I wasn't going to use anymore! and then a few months down the line my breath starts to stink a little bit like ass covered with toothpaste. and then seeing a couple of little flakes on my shirt, noticing my fingers are a little stained. Ask me about it "Oh no babe, I swear I'm still not dipping" Blatantly lying! watching me not even hide the cigarettes at the bars anymore, and one day coming home early to me with a dip in. And then hearing "It was just one! I swear i had a long day at work, here I'll throw out the can!" Another blatant lie and maybe she calls me on it so we have an argument that ends up with me yelling that she's taking this shit to seriously calm the fuck down it was just one!!! Then she finds a spitter in my truck cause I forgot we had to go to the grocery store after work and at this point I'm already to a dip on the drive home. Then another argument filled with lie after lie. And then I don't care anymore, truth comes out, she finds out I've been dipping behind her back and its a relief for me because now I don't have to hide it! But I don't pay attention to her face because all I care about is putting in a fatty. That runs through my head a lot lately. How many times I've done that to her. And how I would feel if skol caved. How I would feel if I found out Athan lied about caving by his admission. How I would feel if I could see them lying to me but couldn't call them on it. And I've known them for time measuring in days that haven't even hit triple digits yet.
How she must have hated my fucking guts.

Maybe its just me, but how much of a negative effect has my addiction had on the person I'm supposed to care the most about. How little have I cared about that until I've been put in her shoes. I dunno maybe you guys have a different relationship with your wives and have never put them through what I have put my wife through. Good for you guys. I dunno just wanted to re-post this here because it weighs on me. And I think that many of you guys that have done this to your wives should probably have this weigh on you as well. Also I'm probably hoping that some of you come clean and admit that they've put their wife through the same, because honestly I feel like a real cunt after typing that out.

I will never cave again. This site and my brothers will help me but after being on the other side of it in a minor way, can't even imagine the anger and betrayal I would feel if someone close to me caved. I will never do that to her again.

And the "truth comes out".....
Like looking in a mirror.
It's not just about the people we care about.
If my wife enjoyed.... that I dipped,
And she brought home a log of Copenhagen with a smile.
I'm Flushing it.
Truth is...... Tobacco will kill you.
Let the truth set you Free.
You don't NEED any OTHER guilty thoughts.
Stay quit.
Help others stay quit ODAAT.
I quit with you today JGrome.
Rawls 1212

My problem is I've used that before "If I dip again I'll die" I caved. I need as many reasons to stay quit as I can come up with. Brothers here, the way my wife must have felt when I betrayed her, that I promised people I wouldn't today, that I'd probably get a severe ass beating if I did, etc etc etc.

The problem with only quitting cause it'll kill you, is you already knew that every time you buy the can. You knew its gonna kill you, you did it anyway. And one cave was Because it would eventually kill me that I bought the can. Nobody goes into dipping because they think its healthy.

Some people that might be enough, but I'm not one. I need backup reasons, if one reason fails me I've always got another. I'll take as many gut punches as I can handle to hate that shit more and more.

I quit with you today brother.
JGromo day 58

[Rawls]

Just an extra reason why to hate that nic bitch
The thing that still gets me is the negative effect of dip on my marriage.

How many times I've chosen dip over fucking my wife.
How many times I wasn't able to kiss my wife more intimately than a peck on the lips because of having a dip in
How, and this is a long one, my wife must have felt when I caved. I think on how I would feel if a brother here caves that I have only known for 2 months. Shit lets make it more intense lets say a brother here that I talk to frequently, daily, hourly...How betrayed I would feel, how pissed off I'd be. Over people I've never met face to face. Fuckin how pissed we all were at Danny for Lying about caving on roll for two days. Now putting myself in my wife's shoes. Thinking how she must have felt when I told her I'd quit, how I wasn't going to use anymore! and then a few months down the line my breath starts to stink a little bit like ass covered with toothpaste. and then seeing a couple of little flakes on my shirt, noticing my fingers are a little stained. Ask me about it "Oh no babe, I swear I'm still not dipping" Blatantly lying! watching me not even hide the cigarettes at the bars anymore, and one day coming home early to me with a dip in. And then hearing "It was just one! I swear i had a long day at work, here I'll throw out the can!" Another blatant lie and maybe she calls me on it so we have an argument that ends up with me yelling that she's taking this shit to seriously calm the fuck down it was just one!!! Then she finds a spitter in my truck cause I forgot we had to go to the grocery store after work and at this point I'm already to a dip on the drive home. Then another argument filled with lie after lie. And then I don't care anymore, truth comes out, she finds out I've been dipping behind her back and its a relief for me because now I don't have to hide it! But I don't pay attention to her face because all I care about is putting in a fatty. That runs through my head a lot lately. How many times I've done that to her. And how I would feel if skol caved. How I would feel if I found out Athan lied about caving by his admission. How I would feel if I could see them lying to me but couldn't call them on it. And I've known them for time measuring in days that haven't even hit triple digits yet.
How she must have hated my fucking guts.

Maybe its just me, but how much of a negative effect has my addiction had on the person I'm supposed to care the most about. How little have I cared about that until I've been put in her shoes. I dunno maybe you guys have a different relationship with your wives and have never put them through what I have put my wife through. Good for you guys. I dunno just wanted to re-post this here because it weighs on me. And I think that many of you guys that have done this to your wives should probably have this weigh on you as well. Also I'm probably hoping that some of you come clean and admit that they've put their wife through the same, because honestly I feel like a real cunt after typing that out.

I will never cave again. This site and my brothers will help me but after being on the other side of it in a minor way, can't even imagine the anger and betrayal I would feel if someone close to me caved. I will never do that to her again.

And the "truth comes out".....
Like looking in a mirror.
It's not just about the people we care about.
If my wife enjoyed.... that I dipped,
And she brought home a log of Copenhagen with a smile.
I'm Flushing it.
Truth is...... Tobacco will kill you.
Let the truth set you Free.
You don't NEED any OTHER guilty thoughts.
Stay quit.
Help others stay quit ODAAT.
I quit with you today JGrome.
Rawls 1212

[Gromo]

Just an extra reason why to hate that nic bitch
The thing that still gets me is the negative effect of dip on my marriage.

How many times I've chosen dip over fucking my wife.
How many times I wasn't able to kiss my wife more intimately than a peck on the lips because of having a dip in
How, and this is a long one, my wife must have felt when I caved. I think on how I would feel if a brother here caves that I have only known for 2 months. Shit lets make it more intense lets say a brother here that I talk to frequently, daily, hourly...How betrayed I would feel, how pissed off I'd be. Over people I've never met face to face. Fuckin how pissed we all were at Danny for Lying about caving on roll for two days. Now putting myself in my wife's shoes. Thinking how she must have felt when I told her I'd quit, how I wasn't going to use anymore! and then a few months down the line my breath starts to stink a little bit like ass covered with toothpaste. and then seeing a couple of little flakes on my shirt, noticing my fingers are a little stained. Ask me about it "Oh no babe, I swear I'm still not dipping" Blatantly lying! watching me not even hide the cigarettes at the bars anymore, and one day coming home early to me with a dip in. And then hearing "It was just one! I swear i had a long day at work, here I'll throw out the can!" Another blatant lie and maybe she calls me on it so we have an argument that ends up with me yelling that she's taking this shit to seriously calm the fuck down it was just one!!! Then she finds a spitter in my truck cause I forgot we had to go to the grocery store after work and at this point I'm already to a dip on the drive home. Then another argument filled with lie after lie. And then I don't care anymore, truth comes out, she finds out I've been dipping behind her back and its a relief for me because now I don't have to hide it! But I don't pay attention to her face because all I care about is putting in a fatty. That runs through my head a lot lately. How many times I've done that to her. And how I would feel if skol caved. How I would feel if I found out Athan lied about caving by his admission. How I would feel if I could see them lying to me but couldn't call them on it. And I've known them for time measuring in days that haven't even hit triple digits yet.
How she must have hated my fucking guts.

Maybe its just me, but how much of a negative effect has my addiction had on the person I'm supposed to care the most about. How little have I cared about that until I've been put in her shoes. I dunno maybe you guys have a different relationship with your wives and have never put them through what I have put my wife through. Good for you guys. I dunno just wanted to re-post this here because it weighs on me. And I think that many of you guys that have done this to your wives should probably have this weigh on you as well. Also I'm probably hoping that some of you come clean and admit that they've put their wife through the same, because honestly I feel like a real cunt after typing that out.

I will never cave again. This site and my brothers will help me but after being on the other side of it in a minor way, can't even imagine the anger and betrayal I would feel if someone close to me caved. I will never do that to her again.

[Athan]

Comedian Ron White summed up a lot of us when he quipped, “…I had the right to remain silent, but I didn’t have the ability”
ItÂ’s funny because most if not all of us can relate to that directly or indirectly.
It generally conjures up a scene of someone not satisfied with just one foot in their mouth, theyÂ’re going for both legs up to the knee.
The gist of it though is the inability of someone who, although they recognize they are on a bad course, is either unwilling or unable to change direction. And thatÂ’s not funny. ThereÂ’s nothing funny about nicotine addiction.
IÂ’ve included some links in my signature from a friend on the site for your reading.
Prepare to have your eyes opened.
I hope you have the ability.