General Discussion - 2018

[kapdawg]

I actually dreamed about the shit last night. Dreamed I put a pinch in and savored it. Even there in my sleep I felt the shame. I can't believe it invades my sleep!

Had the same dream last night. I enjoyed it so much and then all of a sudden I realized that I broke my roll promise. I was pissed until I realized that it was only a nightmare. Not going to happen.

[XxjohnnyquidxX]

First post introducing myself and hoping to get some tips/advice to help me quit nicotine for good. I am 34 yrs old and have dipped on and off since I was about 15. Also smoked cigarettes for several years during this time period but recently quit that for good several months back and plan on always being smoke free the rest of my life. I know that I am an addict and know that it is a problem I have to face head on and quit forever. I own my own business so can basically dip whenever I choose and my wife is somewhat accepting of it at home so there is no real pressures to quit besides me having to do this for myself. It has affected my work, my health, my confidence, and is just a terrible drug that I continue to keep using day in and day out with no quitting goal in sight which is scary to me. I have primarily used dip to help me focus and concentrate when working but any benefits I might get from that are very little compared to all of the negative ways it impacts other areas of my life so I got to man up and stop forever. My wife and I are pregnant with our first child and I am not going to be a nicotine addict when I become a father.

I have gum, sugar free candies, access to nictotine free mint leaf pouches, etc if any of that might help me. I know it is just mind over matter though and my will to quit for good is the only thing that will make a difference in the end. Not ready to post on any roll calls lists yet or join any quit groups on here right away as I would just like to get a few responses from members on here with any advice/tips that might assist me along the quitting process before I set a quit date. What worked for me with the cigarettes quitting was making a promise to my wife I would never smoke again and it was easy as that. But I have actually promised her I would quit dipping and could not even follow through with that is one big reason I know I have a problem here and need to address it asap. Thanks in advance for any help.

The special sauce at KTC is accountability. It is making a promise to a band of brothers and sisters and keeping it...one day at a time. Then renewing the process the next day. And the next. When someone says they aren't ready to put their name on roll - they are telling me that they are still looking for an escape hatch. Get serious, slayer. This is not a game - this is your life.

Put your name and day count and promise on roll NOW - and let's get this quit going. You will never regret taking back your freedom. Never.

Slayer I am 9 days quit. Post roll with the July Group. I had all the concerns you had plus some. Post roll and we can talk some more!

[FLLipOut]

First post introducing myself and hoping to get some tips/advice to help me quit nicotine for good. I am 34 yrs old and have dipped on and off since I was about 15. Also smoked cigarettes for several years during this time period but recently quit that for good several months back and plan on always being smoke free the rest of my life. I know that I am an addict and know that it is a problem I have to face head on and quit forever. I own my own business so can basically dip whenever I choose and my wife is somewhat accepting of it at home so there is no real pressures to quit besides me having to do this for myself. It has affected my work, my health, my confidence, and is just a terrible drug that I continue to keep using day in and day out with no quitting goal in sight which is scary to me. I have primarily used dip to help me focus and concentrate when working but any benefits I might get from that are very little compared to all of the negative ways it impacts other areas of my life so I got to man up and stop forever. My wife and I are pregnant with our first child and I am not going to be a nicotine addict when I become a father.

I have gum, sugar free candies, access to nictotine free mint leaf pouches, etc if any of that might help me. I know it is just mind over matter though and my will to quit for good is the only thing that will make a difference in the end. Not ready to post on any roll calls lists yet or join any quit groups on here right away as I would just like to get a few responses from members on here with any advice/tips that might assist me along the quitting process before I set a quit date. What worked for me with the cigarettes quitting was making a promise to my wife I would never smoke again and it was easy as that. But I have actually promised her I would quit dipping and could not even follow through with that is one big reason I know I have a problem here and need to address it asap. Thanks in advance for any help.

The special sauce at KTC is accountability. It is making a promise to a band of brothers and sisters and keeping it...one day at a time. Then renewing the process the next day. And the next. When someone says they aren't ready to put their name on roll - they are telling me that they are still looking for an escape hatch. Get serious, slayer. This is not a game - this is your life.

Put your name and day count and promise on roll NOW - and let's get this quit going. You will never regret taking back your freedom. Never.

[Athan]

If I had to distill it down to one descriptive word, it would be distortion.

The addiction distorts the userÂ’s perception of reality; twists it into dependency.

The distortion is that nicotine enhances life experiences.

By effecting the release of dopamine in the brain, it becomes the central experience; the lens through which life is viewed, the context upon which other experiences are weighed.
And because this occurs in the brain; it is intrinsic to the mind. It is for this reason I tell you that what you are dealing with is NOT mind over matter but LIFE over ADDICTION.

This is why accountability groups are so successful; an objective third party to counterbalance the addicts own brain when struggling with desire for the next fix.

Yes, it's true, a real man can quit on his own, but only a fool does it needlessly.

More often than not, the fool fails.

[Athan]

I know it is just mind over matter though and my will to quit for good is the only thing that will make a difference in the end.

It's mind over matter when breaking a bad habit like biting your nails.
We're dealing with addiction here. You will be battling your own mind, your own thoughts and desires.
There are some helpful links in my signature. Educate yourself, be a student of your quit. Knowledge is power.
Ignorance is terribly expensive.

Any fool can quit on his own.....for a time. It's staying quit that counts.

I strongly encourage you to jump into a month (July would be yours) and start posting roll. A lot to the site. Take what you need, leave the rest.
Sent you my digits.

[slayer9988]

First post introducing myself and hoping to get some tips/advice to help me quit nicotine for good. I am 34 yrs old and have dipped on and off since I was about 15. Also smoked cigarettes for several years during this time period but recently quit that for good several months back and plan on always being smoke free the rest of my life. I know that I am an addict and know that it is a problem I have to face head on and quit forever. I own my own business so can basically dip whenever I choose and my wife is somewhat accepting of it at home so there is no real pressures to quit besides me having to do this for myself. It has affected my work, my health, my confidence, and is just a terrible drug that I continue to keep using day in and day out with no quitting goal in sight which is scary to me. I have primarily used dip to help me focus and concentrate when working but any benefits I might get from that are very little compared to all of the negative ways it impacts other areas of my life so I got to man up and stop forever. My wife and I are pregnant with our first child and I am not going to be a nicotine addict when I become a father.

I have gum, sugar free candies, access to nictotine free mint leaf pouches, etc if any of that might help me. I know it is just mind over matter though and my will to quit for good is the only thing that will make a difference in the end. Not ready to post on any roll calls lists yet or join any quit groups on here right away as I would just like to get a few responses from members on here with any advice/tips that might assist me along the quitting process before I set a quit date. What worked for me with the cigarettes quitting was making a promise to my wife I would never smoke again and it was easy as that. But I have actually promised her I would quit dipping and could not even follow through with that is one big reason I know I have a problem here and need to address it asap. Thanks in advance for any help.

[chewie]

Back again :( This shit is so hard and I just let my guard down for one.... 5 years down the drain

Um... what? Not something to smile about.

[acomfort2008]

Back again :( This shit is so hard and I just let my guard down for one.... 5 years down the drain

[acomfort2008]

Back again :(  This shit is so hard and I just let my guard down for one....

[Athan]

Accountability.
It can be painful in the short term.
Lack of it will destroy a man in the long haul.
You will exercise it here, that and your honor and your integrity.
You will forge them in the fire of your quit and you will emerge a better man for it.

[Athan]

Funny how two people can witness the same thing yet perceive different realities.
You see a habit youÂ’re in control of
I see an addict controlled by a substance
You see a can
I see yet another iteration in an endless line
You see $5
I see thousands of dollars
You see tobacco
I see over 30 chemicals, some of them radioactive, among which is nicotine, guaranteed to keep you coming back
You see pleasure
I see pain
You see the individual experience
I see a father imparting death upon his son
You see reasons
I see excuses
The fact is you canÂ’t see because youÂ’re blinded by addiction.
You have to give up the can to see clearly.
You have to kill the can.

[BrianG]

Ive been quit for 60 days today, still having multiple side effects, TMJ.... is this normal???

yep. 100% normal.

https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/sy ... -dip-chew/

congrats on 60 days quit. That is awesome. Why not come quit with us and post roll. This shit is hard, no need to do it alone. I think 60 days ago would put you in the May 2018 Pre HOF month. Hope to see you there. 440 days quit today for me...

[chewie]

Ive been quit for 60 days today, still having multiple side effects, TMJ.... is this normal???

yep. 100% normal.

https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/sy ... -dip-chew/

[Sboatright]

Ive been quit for 60 days today, still having multiple side effects, TMJ.... is this normal???

[Athan]

We are addicts.
WeÂ’re in the business of quitting here ladies and gentlemen.
We donÂ’t do excuses.
Why?
Because with the addict any excuse will do.
Who will be the arbiter of excuses if we go down that road? You? Me? The man who fell?
No. That door would never close.
We donÂ’t do excuses.
WeÂ’re in the business of quitting here.