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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #207 on: February 12, 2018, 10:51:00 AM »
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #206 on: February 12, 2018, 10:42:00 AM »
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For me, I always had a can in my back left pocket not that it was hidden there by any stretch of the imagination but it was almost turning into a “security blanket” for me and now feels so odd without it. However for “emergencies” I always kept a can in my bottom left desk drawer at home, and at work I kept a spare in my locker semi hidden from plain sight if I happened to leave it open by accident.
So you four days into it now yes? OUTSTANDING! You are now part of a group bent on self determination, who have recognized they have choices in their lives with consequences far beyond self.
Like the butterfly effect, what you do today really does echo in eternity.
Proud to be quit with you today!
Thanks! Starting off strong today with Day 5!!!
Good deal FF! Welcome. Make sure you flush out and flush all those emergency cans. 5 days is awesome. I will be thinking about you today. we are here for you - 29,000 strong
I fergot to axe you, are you posting roll in a group yet? I cannot overstate how important that is to success, statistically and your own.
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #205 on: February 12, 2018, 10:20:00 AM »
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #204 on: February 12, 2018, 10:00:00 AM »
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For me, I always had a can in my back left pocket not that it was hidden there by any stretch of the imagination but it was almost turning into a “security blanket” for me and now feels so odd without it. However for “emergencies” I always kept a can in my bottom left desk drawer at home, and at work I kept a spare in my locker semi hidden from plain sight if I happened to leave it open by accident.
So you four days into it now yes? OUTSTANDING! You are now part of a group bent on self determination, who have recognized they have choices in their lives with consequences far beyond self.
Like the butterfly effect, what you do today really does echo in eternity.
Proud to be quit with you today!
Thanks! Starting off strong today with Day 5!!!
Good deal FF! Welcome. Make sure you flush out and flush all those emergency cans. 5 days is awesome. I will be thinking about you today. we are here for you - 29,000 strong
I fergot to axe you, are you posting roll in a group yet? I cannot overstate how important that is to success, statistically and your own.
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #203 on: February 12, 2018, 09:38:00 AM »
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For me, I always had a can in my back left pocket not that it was hidden there by any stretch of the imagination but it was almost turning into a “security blanket” for me and now feels so odd without it. However for “emergencies” I always kept a can in my bottom left desk drawer at home, and at work I kept a spare in my locker semi hidden from plain sight if I happened to leave it open by accident.
So you four days into it now yes? OUTSTANDING! You are now part of a group bent on self determination, who have recognized they have choices in their lives with consequences far beyond self.
Like the butterfly effect, what you do today really does echo in eternity.
Proud to be quit with you today!
Thanks! Starting off strong today with Day 5!!!
Good deal FF! Welcome. Make sure you flush out and flush all those emergency cans. 5 days is awesome. I will be thinking about you today. we are here for you - 29,000 strong

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #202 on: February 12, 2018, 09:23:00 AM »
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For me, I always had a can in my back left pocket not that it was hidden there by any stretch of the imagination but it was almost turning into a “security blanket” for me and now feels so odd without it. However for “emergencies” I always kept a can in my bottom left desk drawer at home, and at work I kept a spare in my locker semi hidden from plain sight if I happened to leave it open by accident.
So you four days into it now yes? OUTSTANDING! You are now part of a group bent on self determination, who have recognized they have choices in their lives with consequences far beyond self.
Like the butterfly effect, what you do today really does echo in eternity.
Proud to be quit with you today!
Thanks! Starting off strong today with Day 5!!!
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #201 on: February 12, 2018, 05:45:00 AM »
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For me, I always had a can in my back left pocket not that it was hidden there by any stretch of the imagination but it was almost turning into a “security blanket” for me and now feels so odd without it. However for “emergencies” I always kept a can in my bottom left desk drawer at home, and at work I kept a spare in my locker semi hidden from plain sight if I happened to leave it open by accident.
So you four days into it now yes? OUTSTANDING! You are now part of a group bent on self determination, who have recognized they have choices in their lives with consequences far beyond self.
Like the butterfly effect, what you do today really does echo in eternity.
Proud to be quit with you today!
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #200 on: February 11, 2018, 09:04:00 PM »
For me, I always had a can in my back left pocket not that it was hidden there by any stretch of the imagination but it was almost turning into a “security blanket” for me and now feels so odd without it. However for “emergencies” I always kept a can in my bottom left desk drawer at home, and at work I kept a spare in my locker semi hidden from plain sight if I happened to leave it open by accident.
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #199 on: February 11, 2018, 09:07:00 AM »
....then there was the time we pulled into Halifax Nova Scotia. I was prolly 2 days into quit #4,173 when I chose to cave. Problem was, I was in the boonies in Canada. Wouldn'tcha know those good people of the U.S. Smokeless Tobacco Co saw to it that a hole in the wall convenience store way up yonder would have the cure to what ailed me for the low low price of just $11.95. And that was back in '93. And I was happy to pay it. Thought myself a fortunate son.
What I wouldn't give to have all the $$$$ back. I'd have me a huge 4x4 with double whip antenae....
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #198 on: February 10, 2018, 12:25:00 PM »
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Just above the kitchen sink, on your left as you look up is one of those little shelves for knick-knacks. On it sits this little wooden box containing recipes with a picture of my little Rachel when she was in the 4th grade. Just behind the box, out of plain view was where it sat. The can. I needed a convenient, readily accessible spot and thatÂ’s where I put it. It wasnÂ’t hidden by any stretch of the imagination; my wife and my three girls all knew it was there. I couldnÂ’t have it just sitting out on a coffee table or my desk. Leaving it in the truck was too inconvenient. No, I needed it close by but not obvious. I suppose out of respect or love for me the children didnÂ’t ask about it or mention it. I would go outside or into the laundry room to put one in; shame forbade being blatant and open about it. I never spit so there was no spitter to be ashamed of but there was no hiding the big fat bulge in my lip; the addiction prohibited acknowledging something so obvious as that. Oh it was hidden in plain view as they say.

As I was cooking up the sausage this morning (right after posting roll), my glance fell on that empty spot behind that little box on the shelf over the sink. It gave me a quiet pleasure that it was empty; a solemn pride in spite of a small craving to have beaten it. Today. I hope thereÂ’s little reminders such as that from time to time to let me know that life without it is so much more valuable than life with it.

Think about that for a bit. Where was your can parked? Look at that empty spot and commend yourself - you donÂ’t have to lie about an empty spot or pretend itÂ’s not there; it can and should be acknowledged.

I quit with you today!
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It is amazing what becomes normal and everyday. But looking back on it now it just seems crazy and selfish. I would have my good friend buy all of my chew in his state just so I wouldn't pay the prices in mine. Then mail it to me. And he is a none tobacco user. This amazes me now that I would ask him to do that. What you wrote is spot on. If I put the same amount of effort into my businesses that I did in chewing I would have retired years ago. Thanks for what you wrote today it really made me think.
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God I was always loud and proud with mine. One always in my back pocket. Hey it was cool in HS to have a skoal ring in your jeans so why not keep that up. So my spot is always evident to me. I still feel weird when I sit down and dont feel it. Almost like I'm lopsided now. But the other spot, freezer door. Its kind of nice to have that space open, used to have a minimum of 2 sometimes up to 6 logs in there. There was no shame in my household. Well..not then at least, now there is when I think about all the times my wife had to clean up all my spitters. How many times my niece went and grabbed me a can from the freezer...How I would have my employees literally run to the Liquor store and grab me a can because I didn't realize I was down to one dip left in the one in my pocket

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #197 on: February 10, 2018, 10:33:00 AM »
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Just above the kitchen sink, on your left as you look up is one of those little shelves for knick-knacks. On it sits this little wooden box containing recipes with a picture of my little Rachel when she was in the 4th grade. Just behind the box, out of plain view was where it sat. The can. I needed a convenient, readily accessible spot and thatÂ’s where I put it. It wasnÂ’t hidden by any stretch of the imagination; my wife and my three girls all knew it was there. I couldnÂ’t have it just sitting out on a coffee table or my desk. Leaving it in the truck was too inconvenient. No, I needed it close by but not obvious. I suppose out of respect or love for me the children didnÂ’t ask about it or mention it. I would go outside or into the laundry room to put one in; shame forbade being blatant and open about it. I never spit so there was no spitter to be ashamed of but there was no hiding the big fat bulge in my lip; the addiction prohibited acknowledging something so obvious as that. Oh it was hidden in plain view as they say.

As I was cooking up the sausage this morning (right after posting roll), my glance fell on that empty spot behind that little box on the shelf over the sink. It gave me a quiet pleasure that it was empty; a solemn pride in spite of a small craving to have beaten it. Today. I hope thereÂ’s little reminders such as that from time to time to let me know that life without it is so much more valuable than life with it.

Think about that for a bit. Where was your can parked? Look at that empty spot and commend yourself - you donÂ’t have to lie about an empty spot or pretend itÂ’s not there; it can and should be acknowledged.

I quit with you today!
http://b3.ifrm.com/static/emo/7.png
It is amazing what becomes normal and everyday. But looking back on it now it just seems crazy and selfish. I would have my good friend buy all of my chew in his state just so I wouldn't pay the prices in mine. Then mail it to me. And he is a none tobacco user. This amazes me now that I would ask him to do that. What you wrote is spot on. If I put the same amount of effort into my businesses that I did in chewing I would have retired years ago. Thanks for what you wrote today it really made me think.
Winning!!

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #196 on: February 10, 2018, 09:46:00 AM »
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Just above the kitchen sink, on your left as you look up is one of those little shelves for knick-knacks. On it sits this little wooden box containing recipes with a picture of my little Rachel when she was in the 4th grade. Just behind the box, out of plain view was where it sat. The can. I needed a convenient, readily accessible spot and thatÂ’s where I put it. It wasnÂ’t hidden by any stretch of the imagination; my wife and my three girls all knew it was there. I couldnÂ’t have it just sitting out on a coffee table or my desk. Leaving it in the truck was too inconvenient. No, I needed it close by but not obvious. I suppose out of respect or love for me the children didnÂ’t ask about it or mention it. I would go outside or into the laundry room to put one in; shame forbade being blatant and open about it. I never spit so there was no spitter to be ashamed of but there was no hiding the big fat bulge in my lip; the addiction prohibited acknowledging something so obvious as that. Oh it was hidden in plain view as they say.

As I was cooking up the sausage this morning (right after posting roll), my glance fell on that empty spot behind that little box on the shelf over the sink. It gave me a quiet pleasure that it was empty; a solemn pride in spite of a small craving to have beaten it. Today. I hope thereÂ’s little reminders such as that from time to time to let me know that life without it is so much more valuable than life with it.

Think about that for a bit. Where was your can parked? Look at that empty spot and commend yourself - you donÂ’t have to lie about an empty spot or pretend itÂ’s not there; it can and should be acknowledged.

I quit with you today!
http://b3.ifrm.com/static/emo/7.png
It is amazing what becomes normal and everyday. But looking back on it now it just seems crazy and selfish. I would have my good friend buy all of my chew in his state just so I wouldn't pay the prices in mine. Then mail it to me. And he is a none tobacco user. This amazes me now that I would ask him to do that. What you wrote is spot on. If I put the same amount of effort into my businesses that I did in chewing I would have retired years ago. Thanks for what you wrote today it really made me think.

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #195 on: February 10, 2018, 08:13:00 AM »
Just above the kitchen sink, on your left as you look up is one of those little shelves for knick-knacks. On it sits this little wooden box containing recipes with a picture of my little Rachel when she was in the 4th grade. Just behind the box, out of plain view was where it sat. The can. I needed a convenient, readily accessible spot and thatÂ’s where I put it. It wasnÂ’t hidden by any stretch of the imagination; my wife and my three girls all knew it was there. I couldnÂ’t have it just sitting out on a coffee table or my desk. Leaving it in the truck was too inconvenient. No, I needed it close by but not obvious. I suppose out of respect or love for me the children didnÂ’t ask about it or mention it. I would go outside or into the laundry room to put one in; shame forbade being blatant and open about it. I never spit so there was no spitter to be ashamed of but there was no hiding the big fat bulge in my lip; the addiction prohibited acknowledging something so obvious as that. Oh it was hidden in plain view as they say.

As I was cooking up the sausage this morning (right after posting roll), my glance fell on that empty spot behind that little box on the shelf over the sink. It gave me a quiet pleasure that it was empty; a solemn pride in spite of a small craving to have beaten it. Today. I hope thereÂ’s little reminders such as that from time to time to let me know that life without it is so much more valuable than life with it.

Think about that for a bit. Where was your can parked? Look at that empty spot and commend yourself - you donÂ’t have to lie about an empty spot or pretend itÂ’s not there; it can and should be acknowledged.

I quit with you today!
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #194 on: February 10, 2018, 02:49:00 AM »
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Hi guys itÂ’s been 31 days since my last dip, I quit cold turkey (this is hard) I gone to 2 dentist appointments they all say tissue and gums look great and gone to 3 doctor appointments they say im good, but i keep thinking I have cancer of the mouth, every night I look in the mirror with a flash light and see something new or feel something new, IÂ’m going crazy, and to make things worst I keep reading things online that are negative, like you will get oral cancer because you dipped. Is this common or am I just crazy? I use to be so energetic and now im just off. I have 2 young kids and wife that I love and I feel like an asshole for dipping this long (10 years). I donÂ’t know what to do and im only 33 years old. This is hard but I wont go back
Stay strong there for you ain't alone. I think you are just worried. If 3 doctors already checked you out, then there's nothing to worry. If you are still unsure, try to get a 4th opinion.

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #193 on: February 09, 2018, 05:33:00 AM »
Some say TGIF. But Fridays are the some of the hardest for me. The routine was a case of beer on the way home and two cans (I deluded myself that I only chewed two cans a week - I would buy at least one more before the next Friday)
Then there's Tuesdays, the relief of making it through another Monday calls out for a dip.
Thursdays usually saw me grab a case of beer if I had one of those rare Fridays off as the weekend started early, or maybe I was just out of beer. And hey, while I'm there, I might as well grab a can or two to go; wouldn't want to be inefficient with gas at $2+/gallon
Wednesdays weren't too bad but nothing like a fatty to settle in after dinner at church (course I had to hide it there, gotta gut it cause you can't spit and I'm sure no one noticed the bulge in my lip)
Saturdays and Sundays were always balls out weekend chew like there's no tomorrow and I usually went through both of Friday's cans. My lip was so raw and painful the love hate relationship was renewed in full every Sunday evening as I put that last painful wad in place even though I didn't enjoy it.
So Monday found me hating the weed and usually making it several hours before I succumbed to it's sweet lies, "hey this'll make you feel better".

Of course, all of that's by the wayside now. History, water under the bridge, yesterdays news, flushed away, etc.

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