Tired and done. Quitting, Day 1.

[kybo]

Koba dug up a study on smoking cessation and relapse (caving) rates, and posted about it in the context of a new quitter leaving after 20 days.

I'll quote his comment here...

It takes a lot of quit for your brain to get its shit together. This study surveyed people who had quit smoking, and reinterviewed them a year or two later to see how they were doing. For people who had been quit less than 3 months at the time of the first interview, only ~18% were still quit (without having caved in the meantime). Once they looked at people who had been quit for 3-6 months (note that 3 months is pretty damn close to 100 days, i.e., HOF here), the chances of them not having caved went up to 50%. It's not until you get to the people that had already been quit for 3+ years that the chances of staying nic-free until the next interview passed 90%. So if you think you don't need this place anymore after 20 days, or 100 days, or 365 days, well... the science disagrees.

I read that same study (along with a few others) about a month ago. The whole brain chemistry part of the addiction is really fascinating to me. One of the other studies I read had similar results to this one but took it a few steps further when it came to tracking the participants. That study indicated that the long term success rate increased dramatically for smokers that had managed to quit for at least 4 months. There wasn't much of a statistical difference between 4 months and 6 months and then there was a small increase in long term success rates for those that made it to a year. That study also indicated that 3 years was a magical number. The one thing I took out of all of those studies that I read is that the long term success rate for beating the nicotine addiction is pretty low, especially on your first attempt.

[Samrs]

Koba dug up a study on smoking cessation and relapse (caving) rates, and posted about it in the context of a new quitter leaving after 20 days.

I'll quote his comment here...

It takes a lot of quit for your brain to get its shit together. This study surveyed people who had quit smoking, and reinterviewed them a year or two later to see how they were doing. For people who had been quit less than 3 months at the time of the first interview, only ~18% were still quit (without having caved in the meantime). Once they looked at people who had been quit for 3-6 months (note that 3 months is pretty damn close to 100 days, i.e., HOF here), the chances of them not having caved went up to 50%. It's not until you get to the people that had already been quit for 3+ years that the chances of staying nic-free until the next interview passed 90%. So if you think you don't need this place anymore after 20 days, or 100 days, or 365 days, well... the science disagrees.

[Samrs]

From March '18... Lies.

[Samrs]

[From August '18...]

Hey guys. Just a quick word here for you, since some people miss things...
1. The way KTC works is that we make our promise first thing at the start of our day.

Wake up, piss, post.

Do not post late in the day.


2. The way KTC works is that we make make our promise each day.

Every damn day.

Do not miss days.


3. The way that KTC works is that we hold each other accountable.

If you are not on roll for some reason, we will track you down.

Don't get pissy about it.

You came here, you asked for it.


4. The way that KTC works is that we support each other.

If you can't post roll for yourself, it's acceptable to get a pickup.

Text, call, or message a brother your day count and promise, and ask them to post for you.

Whatever it takes, get your promise up there, first thing, every day.

That's how we quit, and stay quit.
Finally - if you think that you're different... well, you may be.

Maybe you can quit without posting first thing in the day, without posting every day, without any accountability, without any support.

If that's the case, then you can probably crap rainbows, too. Go ahead and post whenever you feel like it, you special unicorn butterfly, you!

Otherwise?

You're not that busy. You're not that forgetful. You're not that special.

Follow the program.

[Samrs]

[From August '17...]

Mike,

See you lurking down there. What in tarnation are you doing back online so soon after your surgery? Figured you'd still be all loopy on pain meds. 'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'Crazy'

Wait....that might be an improvement...let's see some 'under the influence' posting from you!!

I sure could use some of those pain meds in order to improve my KTC posting.

ItÃ,’s a good thing you canÃ,’t post pictures on here.

Hey guys. Yeah surgery went well. I'm in an incredible amount of pain. I've got a blood drain in my back that regularly fills a blood bag. Can't roll over onto one side over another. Miss my boy like crazy, but my folks are watching him. Amy's the best thing about this procedure so far. Tough as nails. She keeps my ass moving down the hallway. And before you know it, I'll be back to work. Thanks for your thoughts, prayers, and support.

I am going to take this message, have it cast it bronze, framed, and lit up 24/7.

Just so I can point to it when some !@*#%$ pussy-ass quitter tells me their life is too busy to post roll.

"Oh, life's hard? Tell me - is your blood actually draining from your body? IS IT?!?! NO? THEN POST ROLL, YA LAZY WANKER!"

You're a freaking bad-ass, Mike! Here's to your speedy recovery!

[scottludwig]

4th Floor samrs. Life gets real good up here brother.

[Clemte]

400!!!

Another great milestone for one of the truly great quitters on KTC!!! Congratulations and thanks for all you do here, Sam!

'worship' 'party2'

Legit quit brother!
Vibrates on 400 samrs!
It's all the buzz

Nice 400 dude!

Congrats on 400 Samrs!

[Thumblewort]

400!!!

Another great milestone for one of the truly great quitters on KTC!!! Congratulations and thanks for all you do here, Sam!

'worship' 'party2'

Legit quit brother!
Vibrates on 400 samrs!
It's all the buzz

Nice 400 dude!

[ChickDip]

400!!!

Another great milestone for one of the truly great quitters on KTC!!! Congratulations and thanks for all you do here, Sam!

'worship' 'party2'

Legit quit brother!
Vibrates on 400 samrs!
It's all the buzz

[FLLipOut]

400!!!

Another great milestone for one of the truly great quitters on KTC!!! Congratulations and thanks for all you do here, Sam!

'worship' 'party2'

[Batdad]

Hey Samrs... You are doing awesome helping others stay quit One Day At a Time!!!

[ChickDip]

I hate that I even had to write this, but... SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW WE DO THINGS HERE.

Holy cow, outstanding!!!

'clap'

'clap'

[FLLipOut]

I hate that I even had to write this, but... SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW WE DO THINGS HERE.

Holy cow, outstanding!!!

'clap'

[Samrs]

I hate that I even had to write this, but... SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW WE DO THINGS HERE.

[Samrs]

This belong here.

You just keep being you, man.

This place needs those who can encourage and forgive.

It needs hard-asses.

It needs people who are dead serious.

It needs a whole passel of clowns.

It needs saints and sinners and everything in between.

(And sometimes, the same guy will be all that and more in the space of an hour...)

Be who you are; but keep in mind that a lot of people here are - for the first time ever - finding out who they really are.

Love ^^^ this.

Aw, geez - thanks, guys.