Absolute Torture

[Ace121x]

Thanks mogul. It's tough, but I'm kicking nic's ass. Just can't wait to get past this feeling like I'm going to puke 24/7. All I know is that after 34 years of the poison, I ain't going through this crap again...one day at a time, for good!

Hang in there Ken, alot of good people here to help you make it through. I am right here with ya (Day 4) and understand what you are going through as well. Lets beat this bitch together for good.

[Mthomas3824]

Triggers and rewire. Making it to the HOF, you will experience everything and know the drill from that point on.

To make it 100 days, you can only get there by focusing on quitting and fighting today. Tomorrow will be here soon enough but who gives a shit about tomorrow....until you have your quit victory today!

Addiction becomes extremely hard if you think you can't feel this way for one more day or if you think you will cave someday so why suffer today. That is all too much mental mastrubation from the addictive brain.

Trick that addiction back. Fuck you addiction! I haven't quit forever, I am only quit today and will not use today. I can cave when its Tomorrow...If I need to. Funny but after you win your match and you wake...It will be "Today". Yesterday battle is over, Tomorrow's battled doesn't even matter until you win todays battle.

So you post roll every time its "today". Repeat, Repeat and Repeat.

It is good to be prepared. You will have some really, really bad days after detox. (Triggers) You will also have really really great days. Read what you can expect and talk to your brothers about it. They feel or have felt the same. Then a newbie quitter comes in and you will relate to what they feel because you've been there and can shed some light on the trail to freedom! Fight today and stay quit today. Then post when tomorrow becomes today......

[Bean]

Bigsky...congrats on a great choice. But what is with all the complaining? You're like a recently released prison pining for the confines of his cement cell. YOU'RE FREE NOW!!! There is no going back.

Your attitude will determine your success. Start noticing all the victories...daily victories, post-meal victories, etc. YOU GOT THIS, BROTHER!!! You know what REALLY DOES SUCK? Feeding tubes, disfiguring surgery, life with out a bottom jaw, looking like a monster to all who love you the most, torturing loved ones over your loss for something that YOU did to yourself. Get your head straight and start to realize that NOTHING about being quit sucks. That is just the Nic talking. Ignore that bitch.

YOU GOT THIS, BROTHER!!!

[ParadigmDawg]

Sure, nicotine takes about 72 hours to leave you body but guess what....your body is use to living on nicotine so it is about to fight you and fight you hard.

I am not trying to scare you or make things sound too hard to do, I just want you to be geared up and prepared.

The next 50-100 days are going to be difficult and you will have many bad days and a few good days. Use those good days to recharge your batteries and prepare for the next round of the fight. Quit one hour at a time, if that's too difficult, quit for one minute at a time.

When you think about it 100 days isn't very long but it can seem like forever when you are in the middle of it. You can do this and I will stand right beside you while you do it.

I need you to be successful so I know that I can stay successful in my quit.

[brettlees]

Hi Ken- hang in there, the stomach stuff does go away! that was one of the most uncomfortable things about every time i ever stopped for a few days. Sometimes it came as gas pains that literally doubled me over and made it so I couldn't sleep. BUT... once you wait it out, however long it lingers, it will never come back again as long as you stay quit. And this site's plan will help you stay quit if you follow it.

[bigskyken]

Thanks mogul. It's tough, but I'm kicking nic's ass. Just can't wait to get past this feeling like I'm going to puke 24/7. All I know is that after 34 years of the poison, I ain't going through this crap again...one day at a time, for good!

[Mogul]

Ken, my stomach was the problem too. Fog and stomach. Actually I kinda enjoyed the Fog. but then again I am a freak. However, I was very nauseated and sick to my stomach. the shitter was where I lived for the better part of 5 days. Weird ones too. OK, gross I know but we might as well tell the truth.

Stay quit man, it's worth every second.

Mogul

[bigskyken]

Friggin' miserable all day, but Day 3 is in the bag. Hope'n my stomach gets back to normal soon.

[srans]

Shit Ken, you sound like me in a number of ways. I also slept with the bitch and hardly ever had a time there wasn't poison in my mouth. Fuck if I knew I was going to be in a situation where several hours I wouldn't be able to have a pinch in I'd swallow a few pinches of Copenhagen and let my gut meter poison to my system. I'm also a 40+ year addict. I've been nicotine free for 587 days and I knew day one that this was a different experience than any of my past pauses. If your serious why leave a backup plan of a can and half just steps away? Don't you think all of us have it available? Just last weekend I had a battle in a convenience store with the bitch and my fucked up addict mind. Don't tempt fate.

Yeah Wt57, looks like we have a similar history. I dumped my Copenhagen at the gas stAtion this morning. Painful, but glad it's gone. [/QUOTE]
Congratulations and welcome. Glad to hear you trashed your stash ken. I had some real battles in the beginning. One thing I can tell you for sure!! I would have caved on several occasions if I had the poison readily available. I can understand your thinking, but realize your addicted mind doesn't know how to handle quitting. It will try and talk you in to all sorts of things and all of them will involve nicotine.

I had a real rough time at the beginning with friends and co workers that used, but after time I began feeling sorry for them. I learned everything I could about nicotine and addiction. This gave me the hate for it that I needed to make this quit final. My recommendation is read everything you can on this site. Learn your enemy brother.!.! Find out the truths to the lies you believe.

If you haven't go to the top left. Read every thing in the welcome center. Learn how and why we post roll. Pay particular attention to why. Posting roll is the cornerstone of what we do here. It's why 1,000's are successfully quitting on this site. You can keep your word for a day right?? Post roll daily, exchange phone numbers and get involved. Stay a while,, make some friends. This site will help more than you can imagine. Need a number let me know. Glad to be quit with you.

[bigskyken]

Shit Ken, you sound like me in a number of ways. I also slept with the bitch and hardly ever had a time there wasn't poison in my mouth. Fuck if I knew I was going to be in a situation where several hours I wouldn't be able to have a pinch in I'd swallow a few pinches of Copenhagen and let my gut meter poison to my system. I'm also a 40+ year addict. I've been nicotine free for 587 days and I knew day one that this was a different experience than any of my past pauses. If your serious why leave a backup plan of a can and half just steps away? Don't you think all of us have it available? Just last weekend I had a battle in a convenience store with the bitch and my fucked up addict mind. Don't tempt fate.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Wt57, looks like we have a similar history. I dumped my Copenhagen at the gas stAtion this morning. Painful, but glad it's gone.

[Wt57]

I've been chewing for roughly 40 years. Quit in '94 for seven years, but the temptation of the "new" Copenhagen Long Cut became too much to resist. So have been back at it straight again since 2001. Problem is I just love the stuff...when I'm driving, after dinner, before bed, just about all the time. My day would start by spitting out last night's chew, brushing my teeth, taking another dip and having a cup of coffee...only got worse the rest of the day.

So I am 50 hours into this, and going nuts on the inside. Toothpicks are my placebo, but not quite cutting it. Got a full can and a partial in the truck, right outside my window. I know that seems like a stupid way to quit, but I work with lots of people who chew, so if I can't quit with it always available, it ain't going to happen. And I hate bumming off other people!

I looked at a couple of the documents on this site, and they are spot-on. That damn can has had a firm grip on me for too long, so I am determined beat it for good this time. Wish me luck...I will let you know how I make it through the week.

Ken

Shit Ken, you sound like me in a number of ways. I also slept with the bitch and hardly ever had a time there wasn't poison in my mouth. Fuck if I knew I was going to be in a situation where several hours I wouldn't be able to have a pinch in I'd swallow a few pinches of Copenhagen and let my gut meter poison to my system. I'm also a 40+ year addict. I've been nicotine free for 587 days and I knew day one that this was a different experience than any of my past pauses. If your serious why leave a backup plan of a can and half just steps away? Don't you think all of us have it available? Just last weekend I had a battle in a convenience store with the bitch and my fucked up addict mind. Don't tempt fate.

[Mogul]

Ken, for the very addicted there is always the tequila technique. Read my intro called "Mogul Intro" and puke your way out. OK, it may be extreme but I needed extreme. Now, all I have to do is think about the smell and I puke on the spot. I am never going back. and,,,, the benefit,,, I can puke on command. Think about it....

Mogul

[bigskyken]

Of course you guys are right, I am an addict without doubt. I've tried to tell myself all sorts of bullshit stories over the years, like "I can control it" or "If I can quit for a day, then I'm not addicted." But basically, if I don't have a chew in my mouth, all I'm thinking about is getting my next dip. I hate being held hostage to anything, especially something that can kill me. So, I am resolved to kick its ass, but it is still damn miserable in the meanwhile! Thanks for the encouragement...I will keep you posted.

[Jlud007]

I've been chewing for roughly 40 years.  Quit in '94 for seven years, but the temptation of the "new" Copenhagen Long Cut became too much to resist.  So have been back at it straight again since 2001.  Problem is I just love the stuff...when I'm driving, after dinner, before bed, just about all the time.  My day would start by spitting out last night's chew, brushing my teeth, taking another dip and having a cup of coffee...only got worse the rest of the day.

So I am 50 hours into this, and going nuts on the inside.  Toothpicks are my placebo, but not quite cutting it.  Got a full can and a partial in the truck, right outside my window. I know that seems like a stupid way to quit, but I work with lots of people who chew, so if I can't quit with it always available, it ain't going to happen. And I hate bumming off other people!

I looked at a couple of the documents on this site, and they are spot-on.  That damn can has had a firm grip on me for too long, so I am determined beat it for good this time.  Wish me luck...I will let you know how I make it through the week.

Ken

First let me welcome you to the site Ken, you've found a great resource in the battle against your addiction to nicotine. Reading your intro that may be the first thing you need to know, your an addict like the rest of us here. The monster can creep back into your life at any time, which you already know having "stopped" chewing for a number of years. I thought I would miss my buddy the Kodiak bear, hell read my intro..... seems kinda sad now. Would I miss my jaw and tongue more? Would my kids miss their Dad more? Read the story of Tom and Jenny Kern's Story

Someone that loves being addicted to a poisonous weed doesn't go looking for a way to quit..... do they?

I would advise you check out the Welcome Center

Then I would dump your stash, don't plan to fail before you've even begun.

Then find your way over to the February '14 pre HOF group and post roll.

We don't hope, try or wish you luck here. We quit, we make a daily promise to one another and we keep it. Simple as that.

[Mthomas3824]

Ken,

I don't doubt that you think you love the stuff. I thought I did too.

You don't and I didn't! That is addiction. You don't love it, you are an addict.

Go 100 days with exactness, post everyday and follow this plan without objection. Then read this post again.

I love my life more tobacco free.

Your "love" for nic is so one sided. Financially, add up how much she cost you to love her. Not just price per can. What about any dental work. What about times you left special moment in your life to suck on a weed? What about the emotional worry invested in thinking you might have mouth cancer?

You paid a great price and for what? A nicotine buzz? What other value or love did US tobacco give you?

Clear, nicotine free minds start to see that love and price is one sided with addiction. Quit today, do without and follow this plan. After 100 days, you should recover enough to think more about what you require to love and what you get for loving.

I hate that bitch!