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Offline markr

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2010, 08:10:00 AM »
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This is the stupidest shit in the history of stupid shit. 4th night in a row I literally can not sleep more than an hour and 15 minutes in row for a total of 3 or 4 hours a night. Why in the fuck did I voluntarily do shit to myself for 20+ fucking years that do this to me when I try to undo it?! Fucking moronic. Sleep deprived. Not happy about it.

I am NOT going through this shit again! Commencing stupid ass day 4.0.
Hang in there Teamgreen It will get better. My first week I was so sick on top of no sleep. You can do this!!! Don't let the Nic Bitch win!! I ended up sleeping in my chair while watching TV any sleep will work. At day 4 the nicotine is almost out of your system so things will be real intense right now.

Hang tough
Thanks, man. I know, this too shall pass. Just stamping a description of how much this sucks to myself. I don't want to do this shit again.

Caving is not an option.
You are learning. You have learned you never want to go through this again and that will make your quit stronger!!!Hang tough and have agreat weekend.

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2010, 07:37:00 AM »
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This is the stupidest shit in the history of stupid shit. 4th night in a row I literally can not sleep more than an hour and 15 minutes in row for a total of 3 or 4 hours a night. Why in the fuck did I voluntarily do shit to myself for 20+ fucking years that do this to me when I try to undo it?! Fucking moronic. Sleep deprived. Not happy about it.

I am NOT going through this shit again! Commencing stupid ass day 4.0.
Hang in there Teamgreen It will get better. My first week I was so sick on top of no sleep. You can do this!!! Don't let the Nic Bitch win!! I ended up sleeping in my chair while watching TV any sleep will work. At day 4 the nicotine is almost out of your system so things will be real intense right now.

Hang tough
Thanks, man. I know, this too shall pass. Just stamping a description of how much this sucks to myself. I don't want to do this shit again.

Caving is not an option.

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2010, 06:34:00 AM »
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This is the stupidest shit in the history of stupid shit. 4th night in a row I literally can not sleep more than an hour and 15 minutes in row for a total of 3 or 4 hours a night. Why in the fuck did I voluntarily do shit to myself for 20+ fucking years that do this to me when I try to undo it?! Fucking moronic. Sleep deprived. Not happy about it.

I am NOT going through this shit again! Commencing stupid ass day 4.0.
Hang in there Teamgreen It will get better. My first week I was so sick on top of no sleep. You can do this!!! Don't let the Nic Bitch win!! I ended up sleeping in my chair while watching TV any sleep will work. At day 4 the nicotine is almost out of your system so things will be real intense right now.

Hang tough

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2010, 03:49:00 AM »
This is the stupidest shit in the history of stupid shit. 4th night in a row I literally can not sleep more than an hour and 15 minutes in row for a total of 3 or 4 hours a night. Why in the fuck did I voluntarily do shit to myself for 20+ fucking years that do this to me when I try to undo it?! Fucking moronic. Sleep deprived. Not happy about it.

I am NOT going through this shit again! Commencing stupid ass day 4.0.

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2010, 04:59:00 PM »
Spot on about the door tg. You're job is to hold it shut one moment at a time, thats all any of us do. I have to agree with Ready every second of pain or fog or bullshit involved in your quit will be worth it, you'll be able to see it soon enough, just keep holding for now.

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2010, 11:09:00 AM »
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Also, any veterans here teeth grinders in their sleep? That ever go away?
I used to grind my teeth in my sleep and it drove my wife nuts.

Now that you mention it, I don't think I've been grinding my teeth in my sleep at all since I quit. I think it may have gone away right around when I quit, but I just didn't notice that it had stopped.
Bout outta teeth, dentist keeps trying to get me to wear a mouth guard.
I coulda bit thru rebar in my sleep. since I've quit I stopped grinding my teeth totally. I wore a mouth guard for years too and always blamed stress. Typical, couldn't have been the two cans of skoal every day, nooooooooo. 'bang head' 'bang head'
Funny, I grind my teeth as well and wear a mouth guard. (Wife works for a dentist) I have not noticed that anymore. Maybe I ditch the guard next week on the cruise. I hate the thing anyway.
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Re: Day 1
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2010, 11:06:00 AM »
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Can't sleep anyway and I had this thought to add to my early days log. I was reading a vet's comments on "closing the door." I can't recall who or the exact context (I've read so much, and my attention span is so hammered right now...sorry to the quiter I'm failing to properly acknowledge. I'll try to figure it out later).

At any rate, the discussion revolved around arriving at some point when you really feel that you've closed the door on the nicotine chapter of your life, like it's really something that is (more or less) behind you. It'll always be there since we're all addicts here, but I get the sentiment, a warmish feeling that nicotine is something from the past, so long as you maintain a certain level of vigilance learned through the journey.

I'm just battling away right now and clearly feel nowhere near that point. I did have a thought, though, that may or may not be worth thinking about later.

I am really committed to this thing. I am quit, not trying. In that sense, I have already closed the door. The problem is that the grizzly (literally and figuratively) is still right outside like Jack Nicholson with an ax and a smile, and he's swingin' away. What's more, my door is flimsy as hell, and I can't leave it for a second. There's no latch, no lock. I have to stand here and lean into with everything I've got, because if I relax even one of my muscles for a second, the doors gonna crumble and the grizzly is gonna run right over me. I kind of want to devote a little of my energy to something else right now, be it work or play, but I know I can't. This weak ass door just won't hold if I'm not leaning into with ALL my energy.

But that's why I'm here. No one can hold the door closed for me, but everybody is reminding me that I CAN hold it if I don't give up. I'm being reminded why I closed the door in the first place and why I'm not just letting the grizzly back in. I've got people who know a little something about this situation. They're telling me how to adjust my stance so my strength will hold on a little better, a little longer. They keep asking me to promise I'll keep all my weight into the door, and they keep promising me they'll do the same with their own.

So that's where I'm at. Yeah, my door's closed, but it's a stupid ass corregated cardboard flap. What I'm hoping is that down the line, through this process, I'll learn how to reinforce my door a little bit, maybe build some kind of latch or something. Maybe someday it'll be strong enough I won't have to lean on it all day. Maybe I'll be able to take a couple steps back. Maybe take a load off with a glass of iced tea and shotgun across my lap just in case. Maybe that's what having the door closed means. For now, I guess I'll just lower my shoulder check my footing and grit my teeth.
You get it.

It will get better. The door will become stronger. It will be worth the sacrifice.
Agreed, good post though. The door will eventually become steel but it does have a lock and only you hold the key.
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Re: Day 1
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2010, 11:00:00 AM »
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Can't sleep anyway and I had this thought to add to my early days log. I was reading a vet's comments on "closing the door." I can't recall who or the exact context (I've read so much, and my attention span is so hammered right now...sorry to the quiter I'm failing to properly acknowledge. I'll try to figure it out later).

At any rate, the discussion revolved around arriving at some point when you really feel that you've closed the door on the nicotine chapter of your life, like it's really something that is (more or less) behind you. It'll always be there since we're all addicts here, but I get the sentiment, a warmish feeling that nicotine is something from the past, so long as you maintain a certain level of vigilance learned through the journey.

I'm just battling away right now and clearly feel nowhere near that point. I did have a thought, though, that may or may not be worth thinking about later.

I am really committed to this thing. I am quit, not trying. In that sense, I have already closed the door. The problem is that the grizzly (literally and figuratively) is still right outside like Jack Nicholson with an ax and a smile, and he's swingin' away. What's more, my door is flimsy as hell, and I can't leave it for a second. There's no latch, no lock. I have to stand here and lean into with everything I've got, because if I relax even one of my muscles for a second, the doors gonna crumble and the grizzly is gonna run right over me. I kind of want to devote a little of my energy to something else right now, be it work or play, but I know I can't. This weak ass door just won't hold if I'm not leaning into with ALL my energy.

But that's why I'm here. No one can hold the door closed for me, but everybody is reminding me that I CAN hold it if I don't give up. I'm being reminded why I closed the door in the first place and why I'm not just letting the grizzly back in. I've got people who know a little something about this situation. They're telling me how to adjust my stance so my strength will hold on a little better, a little longer. They keep asking me to promise I'll keep all my weight into the door, and they keep promising me they'll do the same with their own.

So that's where I'm at. Yeah, my door's closed, but it's a stupid ass corregated cardboard flap. What I'm hoping is that down the line, through this process, I'll learn how to reinforce my door a little bit, maybe build some kind of latch or something. Maybe someday it'll be strong enough I won't have to lean on it all day. Maybe I'll be able to take a couple steps back. Maybe take a load off with a glass of iced tea and shotgun across my lap just in case. Maybe that's what having the door closed means. For now, I guess I'll just lower my shoulder check my footing and grit my teeth.
You get it.

It will get better. The door will become stronger. It will be worth the sacrifice.

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2010, 05:06:00 AM »
Can't sleep anyway and I had this thought to add to my early days log. I was reading a vet's comments on "closing the door." I can't recall who or the exact context (I've read so much, and my attention span is so hammered right now...sorry to the quiter I'm failing to properly acknowledge. I'll try to figure it out later).

At any rate, the discussion revolved around arriving at some point when you really feel that you've closed the door on the nicotine chapter of your life, like it's really something that is (more or less) behind you. It'll always be there since we're all addicts here, but I get the sentiment, a warmish feeling that nicotine is something from the past, so long as you maintain a certain level of vigilance learned through the journey.

I'm just battling away right now and clearly feel nowhere near that point. I did have a thought, though, that may or may not be worth thinking about later.

I am really committed to this thing. I am quit, not trying. In that sense, I have already closed the door. The problem is that the grizzly (literally and figuratively) is still right outside like Jack Nicholson with an ax and a smile, and he's swingin' away. What's more, my door is flimsy as hell, and I can't leave it for a second. There's no latch, no lock. I have to stand here and lean into with everything I've got, because if I relax even one of my muscles for a second, the doors gonna crumble and the grizzly is gonna run right over me. I kind of want to devote a little of my energy to something else right now, be it work or play, but I know I can't. This weak ass door just won't hold if I'm not leaning into with ALL my energy.

But that's why I'm here. No one can hold the door closed for me, but everybody is reminding me that I CAN hold it if I don't give up. I'm being reminded why I closed the door in the first place and why I'm not just letting the grizzly back in. I've got people who know a little something about this situation. They're telling me how to adjust my stance so my strength will hold on a little better, a little longer. They keep asking me to promise I'll keep all my weight into the door, and they keep promising me they'll do the same with their own.

So that's where I'm at. Yeah, my door's closed, but it's a stupid ass corregated cardboard flap. What I'm hoping is that down the line, through this process, I'll learn how to reinforce my door a little bit, maybe build some kind of latch or something. Maybe someday it'll be strong enough I won't have to lean on it all day. Maybe I'll be able to take a couple steps back. Maybe take a load off with a glass of iced tea and shotgun across my lap just in case. Maybe that's what having the door closed means. For now, I guess I'll just lower my shoulder check my footing and grit my teeth.

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2010, 11:39:00 PM »
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Also, any veterans here teeth grinders in their sleep? That ever go away?
I used to grind my teeth in my sleep and it drove my wife nuts.

Now that you mention it, I don't think I've been grinding my teeth in my sleep at all since I quit. I think it may have gone away right around when I quit, but I just didn't notice that it had stopped.
Bout outta teeth, dentist keeps trying to get me to wear a mouth guard.
I coulda bit thru rebar in my sleep. since I've quit I stopped grinding my teeth totally. I wore a mouth guard for years too and always blamed stress. Typical, couldn't have been the two cans of skoal every day, nooooooooo. 'bang head' 'bang head'
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Re: Day 1
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2010, 07:48:00 PM »
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Also, any veterans here teeth grinders in their sleep? That ever go away?
I used to grind my teeth in my sleep and it drove my wife nuts.

Now that you mention it, I don't think I've been grinding my teeth in my sleep at all since I quit. I think it may have gone away right around when I quit, but I just didn't notice that it had stopped.
Bout outta teeth, dentist keeps trying to get me to wear a mouth guard.
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Re: Day 1
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2010, 02:25:00 PM »
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Also, any veterans here teeth grinders in their sleep? That ever go away?
I used to grind my teeth in my sleep and it drove my wife nuts.

Now that you mention it, I don't think I've been grinding my teeth in my sleep at all since I quit. I think it may have gone away right around when I quit, but I just didn't notice that it had stopped.

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2010, 12:53:00 PM »
Thanks, NKT, Mike and Divarty. All good info/advice.

One other note to self. I was looking through some drawers this morning (looking for some tooth whitening strips I bought about two years ago when I thought about quitting and didn't...). I found them, but I also found old nicotine gum from the same "thinking about quitting episode," and the piece du resistance (don't know how to spell that in frenchy, but oh well), a can of Grizz with one big ol' fatty left in it.

The cool thing, not that it didn't look REALLY good, was that I didn't even consider the griz or the gum. I went straight to the sink with the griz and then straight to the garbage with the gum. Got the right mindset now for sure...just got keep reminding myself to keep reminding myself to keep it...

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2010, 12:37:00 PM »
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Note to self, on 2nd nic free night, I apparently can't sleiep more than an hour at a time. I keep waking up expecting it to be morning and 30 minutes have passed. Then 15 minutes to ponder it, then another 43 minutes of fitful sleep. Man, I'm gonna be pissed off AND exhausted tomorrow. And I thought I was a giant raging richard today...bring the pain (and try to spare as much collateral damage as possible)
Cut back on the coffe and soda, nic helps your body proccess caffiene a lot faster so you drank more because you could get away with it. Now that you don't have the nic helping you caffiene is kicking your ass and helping to keep you up :) Drink lots o water and hang tough. If you need a number PM Me and it's yours.

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Re: Day 1
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2010, 12:01:00 PM »
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Cool. I will look forward to it.

Yeah, on the sleep thing, I'm notoriously a pretty deep sleeper. I've known a couple friends that have admitted to waking up to take a dip in the middle of the night. I really never had much problem with that until the last few months. My sleep habits have been all over the map and I'm sure some has to do with chew. Either I can't get to sleep at night, or I'll be exhausted really early and then wake up at 3am (at which point I take a big dip and just start my day a few hours early).

There is not way in hell that I can imagine NOT sleeping better once I get a ways into this. I'm sure I'll have some insomnia issues, but it can't be that bad, once the situation stabilizes a bit.

Also, any veterans here teeth grinders in their sleep? That ever go away?
Melatonin is what I have used for sleep.