Figured I would Introduce myself

[CoachDoc]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

Good post. Rage is good sometimes.

About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.

The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.

Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.

Shout at me if you need anything.

Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time

What's your plan?

My Quit Plan - My Crave Reflex

1. Post Roll every morning within 30 minutes. Make my promise to quit today
2. Get on KTC and READ something before work...go to live chat
3. If not near computer, pull out picture of Outdoortexan's surgery and stare for 5 minutes and reflect
4. Oral fixation...fakey, gum, seeds, dick...whatever it takes
5. If for some reason my peabrain doesn't register with the pictures, pull out contract
6. Read Tom Kern Story
7. Call Craig in Chicago, Froman, ZAM, Andy...
8. Never get past step 3.


Looking for feedback Vets....You've been where I am now...

One thing missing is numbers. You never know when calling or texting a brother is gonna help you. Get at least 3. You start feeling weak give someone a buzz. Do it well before you think you might get a tin in your hands. Need a number give me a PM, I'm happy to share.

Thanks Tarpon...I will....Numbers, see 7..covered that base

Only thing I can suggest (what I don't see addressed in your plan) is how to prevent putting yourself in harms way - what can you proactively do in order to try and prevent getting into a crave?

I think it looks like a good plan...like I said, plans should ALWAYS be evolving to match yuor quit...neither should be static

[pacertom]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

Good post. Rage is good sometimes.

About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.

The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.

Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.

Shout at me if you need anything.

Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time

What's your plan?

My Quit Plan - My Crave Reflex

1. Post Roll every morning within 30 minutes. Make my promise to quit today
2. Get on KTC and READ something before work...go to live chat
3. If not near computer, pull out picture of Outdoortexan's surgery and stare for 5 minutes and reflect
4. Oral fixation...fakey, gum, seeds, dick...whatever it takes
5. If for some reason my peabrain doesn't register with the pictures, pull out contract
6. Read Tom Kern Story
7. Call Craig in Chicago, Froman, ZAM, Andy...
8. Never get past step 3.


Looking for feedback Vets....You've been where I am now...

One thing missing is numbers. You never know when calling or texting a brother is gonna help you. Get at least 3. You start feeling weak give someone a buzz. Do it well before you think you might get a tin in your hands. Need a number give me a PM, I'm happy to share.

Thanks Tarpon...I will....Numbers, see 7..covered that base

[tarpon17]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

Good post. Rage is good sometimes.

About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.

The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.

Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.

Shout at me if you need anything.

Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time

What's your plan?

My Quit Plan - My Crave Reflex

1. Post Roll every morning within 30 minutes. Make my promise to quit today
2. Get on KTC and READ something before work...go to live chat
3. If not near computer, pull out picture of Outdoortexan's surgery and stare for 5 minutes and reflect
4. Oral fixation...fakey, gum, seeds, dick...whatever it takes
5. If for some reason my peabrain doesn't register with the pictures, pull out contract
6. Read Tom Kern Story
7. Call Craig in Chicago, Froman, ZAM, Andy...
8. Never get past step 3.


Looking for feedback Vets....You've been where I am now...

One thing missing is numbers. You never know when calling or texting a brother is gonna help you. Get at least 3. You start feeling weak give someone a buzz. Do it well before you think you might get a tin in your hands. Need a number give me a PM, I'm happy to share.

[Souliman]

OUTFUCKINGSTANDING. You are going to do this bro. You will own this shit. Good to read some proactive quitting going on. Get yourself ready. Fight.

Know there are a few thousand addicts just like you here and we just dig giving support when needed.

[pacertom]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

Good post. Rage is good sometimes.

About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.

The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.

Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.

Shout at me if you need anything.

Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time

What's your plan?

My Quit Plan - My Crave Reflex

1. Post Roll every morning within 30 minutes. Make my promise to quit today
2. Get on KTC and READ something before work...go to live chat
3. If not near computer, pull out picture of Outdoortexan's surgery and stare for 5 minutes and reflect
4. Oral fixation...fakey, gum, seeds, dick...whatever it takes
5. If for some reason my peabrain doesn't register with the pictures, pull out contract
6. Read Tom Kern Story
7. Call Craig in Chicago, Froman, ZAM, Andy...
8. Never get past step 3.


Looking for feedback Vets....You've been where I am now...

[Nolaq]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

Good post. Rage is good sometimes.

About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.

The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.

Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.

Shout at me if you need anything.

Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time

What's your plan?

[CMH17]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

Good post. Rage is good sometimes.

About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.

The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.

Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.

Shout at me if you need anything.

Now send me some BBQ. I'm hungry!!!!

[pacertom]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

Good post. Rage is good sometimes.

About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.

The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.

Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.

Shout at me if you need anything.

Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time

[CoachDoc]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

PT, you are right...completely.

It reminds me of what happened about a year or so ago. My second son is competitive....VERY COMPETITIVE. He has been on Championship baseball, football and hockey teams and medals regularly individually in wrestling. That being said, he still received trophies every year - even when the teams he was on were not champions.

Last year, while looking at all his trophies and medals, he turned to me and asked, "Did you have this many trophies when you were my age?" I said, "No, not even close. When I was a kid, you only got a trophy when you were champions...there were no trophies for participation."

Nowadays, it's all about political correctness, not wanting to crush the potential in people and being kinder and gentler. BS. I saw a perfect post the other day on Facebook...it read something like:

"For those who complain about this generation, remember who raised them."

If you want support, trust, committment, empathy, teamwork....EARN it! And if you need help, ASK FOR IT! Good post PT....I got yer back, brother!

[Nolaq]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

Good post. Rage is good sometimes.

About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.

The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.

Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.

Shout at me if you need anything.

[pacertom]

I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.

The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.

I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.

Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.

Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.

ok...better now, carry on!

[Scowick65]

Don't try to quit for the rest of your life bro. Just promise you won't use today. Every day. I quit with you today.

Find your group, post roll. Glad to have you.

I hear you...promise made.

I rolled yesterday and today, all set.

Listen to moonpie and the rest of these guys Tom. What you are up against the next few days is going to test you to the limit. You CAN do this. Reach out if you need anything.

1 day at a time. Just for today. Today only.

[UK23]

yeah tom just keep posting roll and quit everyday and you should be fine

[CMH17]

Tom, I also joined up yesterday after a 26 year habit. I'm just going to go day by day with you.

[dippshit]

Don't try to quit for the rest of your life bro. Just promise you won't use today. Every day. I quit with you today.

Find your group, post roll. Glad to have you.

I hear you...promise made.

I rolled yesterday and today, all set.

Listen to moonpie and the rest of these guys Tom. What you are up against the next few days is going to test you to the limit. You CAN do this. Reach out if you need anything.