i need help

[JonnyLaw]

Thanks to all the support on this site i finally posted today so just wanted to say Thankyou to every one and if you have any suggestions how to get through this 1st day I am open to any suggestions or tips im about 8 hours in and the withdrawal is driving me nuts

I spent my first three days 'bang head' and 'Popcorn' like crazy. Don't cave in my man, I am on day five, and I tell you I thought everyone was full of shit when they told me it would get better... BUT IT DOES!

[nkt]

Thanks to all the support on this site i finally posted today so just wanted to say Thankyou to every one and if you have any suggestions how to get through this 1st day I am open to any suggestions or tips im about 8 hours in and the withdrawal is driving me nuts

I noticed that it was the worst when I was trying to get away from it. There's really nothing to do during the first few days but wait it out. It's difficult, but try to think about other things and find other things to do.

Mostly, you just need to accept that you're going to be uncomfortable, and be ready to live with it. It won't hurt you, and it is temporary. You can do this!

[workinprogress]

Thanks to all the support on this site i finally posted today so just wanted to say Thankyou to every one and if you have any suggestions how to get through this 1st day I am open to any suggestions or tips im about 8 hours in and the withdrawal is driving me nuts

[mule]

First....don't disrespect this site by posting with dip in your lip......

The following is the first post written by one of the admins on this site, LooT whose example and encouragement have been a major contribution to my quit over the past 746 days...he gave a shit and decided to help me and tons of other quitters here. I have met LooT and thanked him in person and am pleased to call him my friend. You should know, LooT is over 6' and honestly is the type of individual that ain't afraid of much.....the kinda guy you want on your side if the shit hits the fan....

Read this carefully, flush your can, go to April 10 and post day one....

LooT, me and a whole buncha other folks will be there to help you.


LooT's First Post


My name is JamesÂ…and IÂ’m scared. Like most of youÂ’d, IÂ’d never admit it to anyone in person, but I can freely admit it behind the anonymity of a keyboard. June 2nd Â’05 is my FIANL quit day. I had an endoscopy first thing on that Thursday morning. I have been having stomach problems for several years and the endoscopy was the latest effort to try and figure out what is wrong with me.

The last thing I told the doctor as I was laying on the table was “Check my esophagus real good. I’ve dipped a can or more of Copenhagen daily for 20 years. My uncle has half a face from dipping…my grandmother died of esophageal cancer from dipping. Look me over good…and biopsy anything that looks suspicious…please.”

I made myself a deal in the weeks prior to my procedure…”If you come out of the hospital with no signs of mouth/throat cancer, you’ll quit…forever this time and consider yourself damned lucky.” I didn’t get to talk to the doctor after the procedure, but he told my girlfriend everything looked good. He took several biopsies and I need to go back to see him in 2 weeks for those results. GERD, and a small hernia has caused my stomach problems. I also have an enflamed esophagus. The doc thinks that’s from the reflux.

So, everything seems to have worked out well. So why am I scared? One wordÂ…FAILURE. This has been the one thing in my life that I have been the worst at (and I suck at a lot of things). I lose every time. IÂ’ve used the same reasons to quit you guys have. My two beautiful sons, whom I love more than anything in this world, werenÂ’t reason enough to quit. My marriage, my family, none of it has been a good enough reason. Nothing ever works for long. Anyone else actually bite sores on the inside of your lip so you canÂ’t dip? I have and then IÂ’ve dealt with the stinging of Copenhagen on a fresh wound an hour later.

I’ve been down this road so many times. I once quit for 18 months. Yep…18 whole months and I thought I had it beaten. I had to make a 14 hour drive to Wisconsin in a Ryder truck with no radio, and I was alone. Out of boredom, I bought a can for the ride to “keep me awake”. That was one of the worst decisions I’ve ever made.

ItÂ’s been a 5 day roller coaster (on day 6)Â…but IÂ’m handling it pretty well. I know IÂ’m an addict and will be until the day I die. That has been my biggest revelation this week.

ItÂ’s time to give it up. Not for my kids, not for financial reasons, not for my girlfriendÂ…this time it will be for me because IÂ’m tired of being ruled by a damned can of CopenhagenÂ…and IÂ’m luckyÂ….very lucky. All the other things will be icing on the cake.

This time will be different. It has to be. Failure is not an option. This post has been somewhat therapeutic. Thanks for the opportunity.

My name is JamesÂ…and IÂ’m scared.

[redtrain14]

WP

We were all terrified to plan a quit day. How the hell can we ever get through life without it? Well, let me tell you that its possible and better that you can imagine. Quit worrying about a year in the future, worry about today....or the period of time between 1:05pm and 1:06pm. Stop planning, the more you think and obsess about it, the worse it will get.

Sack up, toss your tin and post roll call. Until then, post out in the Quit Cafe, this area is for people that are quit.

Oh, and ease up on the beer a bit when you first quit.

RT 711


Also, your thread title says "i still need help", we can't help you until YOU make a decision. Ball is in your court......

[JonnyLaw]

thank you tapa theos 3 wood johhny lasw mule retrain 14 skoal monster smokeyyg nkt  SKOALMONSTER YOU ARE MAKING  THINK I CAN DO THIS
I CANT LIE TO YOU I AM NOW CHEWING AS I WORITE THIS POSTEEE TONIGHT AND FEEL HORRI BLE TO SAY THAT BUT I WONT LIE !!!! I HAVE NOT POSTED YET BUT PROMISED SKOAL MONSTER I WOULD IN MY MIND IM ALREADYY PLANNING ANOTHER CHEW AT THE CARDS IM GOING TO  BE PLAYING ON SAT AND I DID DO  GOOD TODAY FOR ME CUT OUT 2 TINS I NORMALLYY DO 3 TINS THATS AMAZ
INGG FOR ME BUT IVE GOT TO TELL YOU   IM TEERRRIFIDE TO PLAN A QUIT D
AY AND GO TO PLAY CARDS SO  I WILL SIGN OFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY HELPING ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON THIS WEBSTIE YOU ARE
AWESOME   I CANT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY NICE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ADDICTION I HAVE   LOVE YOU ALL  HOPE TO POST TOMMOROW THANKYOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOUR GREAT

Reading your message I thought I'd opened up some Nigerian spam mail.

If not for all that scam mail, two years in the Army Signal Corps, and my secret gibberish decoder ring I got from a box of Pansy Puffs I'd never have been able to decipher your message.

I think I've gotten the gist of what you are saying... you are being a tard by using tobacco while posting on this board, you are planning to use again, and you're scared of going to your card game without your tobacco.

Guess what? I see Skoal everywhere around me. I have family who use, my best friend uses, and eight outta ten of my coworkers use. I still have quit. You think the card game is going to trigger you to dip, skip a week or two until you are confident enough with your quit that you aren't going to THROW AWAY YOUR QUIT for a lousy game of cards.

If I was awake and not eating, getting laid or brushing my teeth I had Skoal in my lips. I would wake up and put dip in, watch some news, drink some coffee, fix breakfast, take the pinch out, eat, brush, put a pinch in as I showered, kiss the wife good morning, and get in the truck. At some point, either on my way to work or once I was there I would put another pinch in, and I would take one pinch out to put a fresh one in all day long, all afternoon long, and until I went to bed.

I was up to a minimum of two cans a day, sometimes I easily hit three cans. And while I may be leaning hard on this group, bitching about how the first four days of quit suck, I've still quit. YOU CAN QUIT TOO.

Going from three cans to one doesn't make you a quitter. Going from any cans to NO CANS makes you a quitter. What would be AMMMAZZZ INNG would be for you to quit.

In the end it's up to you... Make up your mind, you either quit or you don't. My wife can't quit for me; none of my buddies can quit for me; only I can quit. You are the only one who can made the decision to quit.

Rather than planning another chew, why don't you plan a day to quit?

As for you rubbing snuff while you're typing a message on this board... 'Finger' that's pretty damn disrespectful.

[ahfull]

thank you tapa theos 3 wood johhny lasw mule retrain 14 skoal monster smokeyyg nkt SKOALMONSTER YOU ARE MAKING THINK I CAN DO THIS
I CANT LIE TO YOU I AM NOW CHEWING AS I WORITE THIS POSTEEE TONIGHT AND FEEL HORRI BLE TO SAY THAT BUT I WONT LIE !!!! I HAVE NOT POSTED YET BUT PROMISED SKOAL MONSTER I WOULD IN MY MIND IM ALREADYY PLANNING ANOTHER CHEW AT THE CARDS IM GOING TO BE PLAYING ON SAT AND I DID DO GOOD TODAY FOR ME CUT OUT 2 TINS I NORMALLYY DO 3 TINS THATS AMAZ
INGG FOR ME BUT IVE GOT TO TELL YOU IM TEERRRIFIDE TO PLAN A QUIT D
AY AND GO TO PLAY CARDS SO I WILL SIGN OFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY HELPING ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON THIS WEBSTIE YOU ARE
AWESOME I CANT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY NICE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ADDICTION I HAVE LOVE YOU ALL HOPE TO POST TOMMOROW THANKYOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOUR GREAT

Please write legible sentences...god damn.

[luv2ski]

thank you tapa theos 3 wood johhny lasw mule retrain 14 skoal monster smokeyyg nkt SKOALMONSTER YOU ARE MAKING THINK I CAN DO THIS
I CANT LIE TO YOU I AM NOW CHEWING AS I WORITE THIS POSTEEE TONIGHT AND FEEL HORRI BLE TO SAY THAT BUT I WONT LIE !!!! I HAVE NOT POSTED YET BUT PROMISED SKOAL MONSTER I WOULD IN MY MIND IM ALREADYY PLANNING ANOTHER CHEW AT THE CARDS IM GOING TO BE PLAYING ON SAT AND I DID DO GOOD TODAY FOR ME CUT OUT 2 TINS I NORMALLYY DO 3 TINS THATS AMAZ
INGG FOR ME BUT IVE GOT TO TELL YOU IM TEERRRIFIDE TO PLAN A QUIT D
AY AND GO TO PLAY CARDS SO I WILL SIGN OFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY HELPING ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON THIS WEBSTIE YOU ARE
AWESOME I CANT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY NICE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ADDICTION I HAVE LOVE YOU ALL HOPE TO POST TOMMOROW THANKYOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOUR GREAT

Or try this - be a pussy and die - don't quit your choice.

[ChoosingIntegrity]

thank you tapa theos 3 wood johhny lasw mule retrain 14 skoal monster smokeyyg nkt  SKOALMONSTER YOU ARE MAKING  THINK I CAN DO THIS
I CANT LIE TO YOU I AM NOW CHEWING AS I WORITE THIS POSTEEE TONIGHT AND FEEL HORRI BLE TO SAY THAT BUT I WONT LIE !!!! I HAVE NOT POSTED YET BUT PROMISED SKOAL MONSTER I WOULD IN MY MIND IM ALREADYY PLANNING ANOTHER CHEW AT THE CARDS IM GOING TO  BE PLAYING ON SAT AND I DID DO  GOOD TODAY FOR ME CUT OUT 2 TINS I NORMALLYY DO 3 TINS THATS AMAZ
INGG FOR ME BUT IVE GOT TO TELL YOU   IM TEERRRIFIDE TO PLAN A QUIT D
AY AND GO TO PLAY CARDS SO  I WILL SIGN OFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY HELPING ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON THIS WEBSTIE YOU ARE
AWESOME   I CANT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY NICE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ADDICTION I HAVE   LOVE YOU ALL  HOPE TO POST TOMMOROW THANKYOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOUR GREAT

See you when you're quit. Otherwise, post up in the cafe where the testicularly challenged hang out.

Or go to chat. Introduce yourself as a quitter next time you start a thread.

just because you sucked one dick instead of three doesn't mean your straight.

I dont need to hear about you planning your next dose , nor do I appreciate you shitting on my doorstep by dipping while you post anything in here. Thats disrespectful at the very least.

Hmmmmmnnn= cards or cancer ? tough call

Your not different, your not a bigger addict, your not some special case. YOu don't have it any worse than any of us here.

The only difference between you and a heroin addict is your choice of drugs.

Don't be a spineless jellytard get it done or go die somewhere else.

Skoal Monster ( Im not so great) but I still hope you quit

Here's a thought --

Skip a card game and Start a QUIT

If you won't do it for your life, take a minute and think about how the mathematics make sense

I don't know where you are, but in New York I was paying upwards of $6/can
Let's say you're paying $5/can
That's $15/day on your 3 can/day habit
If you don't go play cards this week, and invest in your quit instead, by next week you'll have 7 X 15 = $105 to put towards your ante

And... dig this:
If you invest in your quit starting today, but skip cards next week also, you'll have 2 weeks of savings wrapped up ....... 14 Days X $15/day = $210

What if you quit a 3 can/day habit for one month. I see $440 in your near future.

What if you quit for one year? $440/month X 12 months = $5,280

Now, I'm a newbie (merely 43 Days) but I feel pretty safe in saying that I can guarantee you there are greater rewards to THE QUIT than keeping track of monies saved, but... looking at $440/month ain't such a bad place to start.

P.S. -- If your card buddies aren't man enough to support your quit, whether they're quitting with you or not, then you might consider asking yourself what the definition of friendship is and whether those folks have any place in it anymore.

[Skoal Monster]

thank you tapa theos 3 wood johhny lasw mule retrain 14 skoal monster smokeyyg nkt  SKOALMONSTER YOU ARE MAKING  THINK I CAN DO THIS
I CANT LIE TO YOU I AM NOW CHEWING AS I WORITE THIS POSTEEE TONIGHT AND FEEL HORRI BLE TO SAY THAT BUT I WONT LIE !!!! I HAVE NOT POSTED YET BUT PROMISED SKOAL MONSTER I WOULD IN MY MIND IM ALREADYY PLANNING ANOTHER CHEW AT THE CARDS IM GOING TO  BE PLAYING ON SAT AND I DID DO  GOOD TODAY FOR ME CUT OUT 2 TINS I NORMALLYY DO 3 TINS THATS AMAZ
INGG FOR ME BUT IVE GOT TO TELL YOU   IM TEERRRIFIDE TO PLAN A QUIT D
AY AND GO TO PLAY CARDS SO  I WILL SIGN OFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY HELPING ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON THIS WEBSTIE YOU ARE
AWESOME   I CANT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY NICE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ADDICTION I HAVE   LOVE YOU ALL  HOPE TO POST TOMMOROW THANKYOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOUR GREAT

See you when you're quit. Otherwise, post up in the cafe where the testicularly challenged hang out.

Or go to chat. Introduce yourself as a quitter next time you start a thread.

just because you sucked one dick instead of three doesn't mean your straight.

I dont need to hear about you planning your next dose , nor do I appreciate you shitting on my doorstep by dipping while you post anything in here. Thats disrespectful at the very least.

Hmmmmmnnn= cards or cancer ? tough call

Your not different, your not a bigger addict, your not some special case. YOu don't have it any worse than any of us here.

The only difference between you and a heroin addict is your choice of drugs.

Don't be a spineless jellytard get it done or go die somewhere else.

Skoal Monster ( Im not so great) but I still hope you quit

[Smokeyg]

thank you tapa theos 3 wood johhny lasw mule retrain 14 skoal monster smokeyyg nkt SKOALMONSTER YOU ARE MAKING THINK I CAN DO THIS
I CANT LIE TO YOU I AM NOW CHEWING AS I WORITE THIS POSTEEE TONIGHT AND FEEL HORRI BLE TO SAY THAT BUT I WONT LIE !!!! I HAVE NOT POSTED YET BUT PROMISED SKOAL MONSTER I WOULD IN MY MIND IM ALREADYY PLANNING ANOTHER CHEW AT THE CARDS IM GOING TO BE PLAYING ON SAT AND I DID DO GOOD TODAY FOR ME CUT OUT 2 TINS I NORMALLYY DO 3 TINS THATS AMAZ
INGG FOR ME BUT IVE GOT TO TELL YOU IM TEERRRIFIDE TO PLAN A QUIT D
AY AND GO TO PLAY CARDS SO I WILL SIGN OFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY HELPING ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON THIS WEBSTIE YOU ARE
AWESOME I CANT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY NICE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ADDICTION I HAVE LOVE YOU ALL HOPE TO POST TOMMOROW THANKYOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOUR GREAT

See you when you're quit. Otherwise, post up in the cafe where the testicularly challenged hang out.

Or go to chat. Introduce yourself as a quitter next time you start a thread.

[workinprogress]

thank you tapa theos 3 wood johhny lasw mule retrain 14 skoal monster smokeyyg nkt SKOALMONSTER YOU ARE MAKING THINK I CAN DO THIS
I CANT LIE TO YOU I AM NOW CHEWING AS I WORITE THIS POSTEEE TONIGHT AND FEEL HORRI BLE TO SAY THAT BUT I WONT LIE !!!! I HAVE NOT POSTED YET BUT PROMISED SKOAL MONSTER I WOULD IN MY MIND IM ALREADYY PLANNING ANOTHER CHEW AT THE CARDS IM GOING TO BE PLAYING ON SAT AND I DID DO GOOD TODAY FOR ME CUT OUT 2 TINS I NORMALLYY DO 3 TINS THATS AMAZ
INGG FOR ME BUT IVE GOT TO TELL YOU IM TEERRRIFIDE TO PLAN A QUIT D
AY AND GO TO PLAY CARDS SO I WILL SIGN OFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY HELPING ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON THIS WEBSTIE YOU ARE
AWESOME I CANT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY NICE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ADDICTION I HAVE LOVE YOU ALL HOPE TO POST TOMMOROW THANKYOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOUR GREAT

[SeattleCJ]

Come on WIP. Where are you? Go post up in April now, and lets get this started. Start saving your life today. You are getting some great advice and support from some great quitters. Now make them proud and get in there and quit. All of us will be with you every step of the way.

Or if you already have and I am just blind just ignore my post.

[theo3wood]

i  chew 3 tins a  day I KNOW THATS ALOT EVEN FOR THIS SITE myquestion is how can i quit this like all of you people have ?  what should i do  im lost in a world of chew  every night i say never again then the morning hits and im right back to it I want to post but i dont want to be a poser  cant post if you fail  any help would be graitfully  appreciated

I was chewing two cans every day, easy, and on bad days, it was easy for me to make that third tin disappear.

If I had a dollar for every night I said, "I'm done with this shit," and then started up when I was showering the next morning, I'd be living a hell of a lot higher on the hog.

I HAVE BEEN NICOTINE FREE FOR THREE DAYS NOW.

I made a personal decision to fight the can of Skoal. I sat there and thought about all the reasons I wanted to quit, and then threw my can into the trash and moved on with my day. For me, it sucked the first day, sucked really bad the second day, and now it's sucking, just not as bad as it had. The people here on KTC are here to help you.

I am so damn glad I found Kill The Can and the forums. If I hadn't found them, I'd be back giving US Tobacco Company $10/day to feed my addiction.

'worship' 'worship' 'worship'

[JonnyLaw]

i chew 3 tins a day I KNOW THATS ALOT EVEN FOR THIS SITE myquestion is how can i quit this like all of you people have ? what should i do im lost in a world of chew every night i say never again then the morning hits and im right back to it I want to post but i dont want to be a poser cant post if you fail any help would be graitfully appreciated

I was chewing two cans every day, easy, and on bad days, it was easy for me to make that third tin disappear.

If I had a dollar for every night I said, "I'm done with this shit," and then started up when I was showering the next morning, I'd be living a hell of a lot higher on the hog.

I HAVE BEEN NICOTINE FREE FOR THREE DAYS NOW.

I made a personal decision to fight the can of Skoal. I sat there and thought about all the reasons I wanted to quit, and then threw my can into the trash and moved on with my day. For me, it sucked the first day, sucked really bad the second day, and now it's sucking, just not as bad as it had. The people here on KTC are here to help you.

I am so damn glad I found Kill The Can and the forums. If I hadn't found them, I'd be back giving US Tobacco Company $10/day to feed my addiction.