I want to quit before year 7 of this shit

[Cannaday]

Stay strong bro. Im quitting with you. Im brand new here, and serious about ending the most destructive thing ive ever done. Im 32 and have been going through a can a day for years. If you need anything message me.

[hippy]

Day 5 comes to a close. I came too damn near to caving this morning.

The sarcastic, smug voice of addiction from days 1-3, the voice that had slyly proffered "just one last dip for old time's sake", had suddenly developed into an outraged, incessant, bellowing thug by yesterday evening (day 4). I was scared, so I went to sleep. When I woke up the next morning, it was still there in the same spot at the foot of my bed, yelling, threatening and fulminating. I guess you could call it a good cop/bad cop routine.

So I was basically flipping out.

Anyways, I wouldn't say I quit the dip on a lark, but I didn't exactly plan this shit out either. I just became disgusted with myself, ended up surfing to this site and its advocacy of a decisive, cold turkey approach, and dived right in. So I had no fake stuff at hand.

So now, I was in the thick of a crave, I couldn't just place an order for some on the Internet and sit back and relax. So, I start dialing up local smoke shops, and seeing if they carry Smokey Mountain or something similar. These places are typically sleazy, and run by sleazy people. After all, they don't just sell pipe tobacco and cigarettes, but also drug paraphernalia, "bath salts", and the like. They must have thought I was insane: "I'm looking for herbal dip. Fake snuff. Fake dip. No, not like Skoal. Made out of mint. No, not shisha, no tobacco, mint!!"

Finally, I found a smoke shop that carried fake stuff about 30 miles away. So I fought through 45 minutes of traffic to go get some. They had 2 kinds, Oregon Mint and Smokey Mountain. I've tried Oregon Mint before and didn't get a lot out of it, so I got some cans of Smokey Mountain, 3 Wintergreen and 1 "Arctic Mint". I actually like Arctic Mint more, even though I was a Kodiak person, I think it's because their Wintergreen is supposed to be more like Skoal or Grizzly?

I've been dipping this fake stuff since I came home, and that combined with an hard workout seems to have calmed me down quite a bit. Around 10 AM today I would have wagered 50/50 on not making it through the day. But now I feel good again about pledging another day tobacco free.

Also, I drank beer last night, and there is something about it that makes me want to dip the next day, not just during the drinking. So, I'm not going to drink much beer for a while.

[srans]

Day 1 almost done.  I will make it through day 1.  My gumline and jaw feels funny.  I've had a stick of big red in my mouth all day.  Been thinking about the nature of denial and addiction.  Addiction is like, at first a projection of a deeper problem -- it's not the "primary" issue, at least at first.  It's real as hell for me right now though!

Thanks all.

Remeber this suffering, lest ye be destined to endure it all over again.

You will feel all sorts of changes in your gums, tongue, and throat. That is generally your body repairing itself and we all experienced it. Next you'll notice the rest of your body changing. Constipation, lack of sleep, energy swings, and headaches are probably the most common. These are just the physical issues. Drinking lots of water helps speed the cleansing. Excercise also helps. There are some positive things that will happen. I won't spoil those surprises, though. ;)

Congrats on day one. Rinse and repeat, bro. I quit with you again today.

5 days ago i was on day 2 like you should be on right now. this is when satan comes in like a flood. he will hit you with his best shot. nocotine has a voice. it will talk to you, lure you, depress, you. it's wants you back and it's determined. stay quit today and know that this was the worst day i've went through. it you make it today, it's all down hill from here.

[Radman]

Day 1 almost done. I will make it through day 1. My gumline and jaw feels funny. I've had a stick of big red in my mouth all day. Been thinking about the nature of denial and addiction. Addiction is like, at first a projection of a deeper problem -- it's not the "primary" issue, at least at first. It's real as hell for me right now though!

Thanks all.

Remeber this suffering, lest ye be destined to endure it all over again.

You will feel all sorts of changes in your gums, tongue, and throat. That is generally your body repairing itself and we all experienced it. Next you'll notice the rest of your body changing. Constipation, lack of sleep, energy swings, and headaches are probably the most common. These are just the physical issues. Drinking lots of water helps speed the cleansing. Excercise also helps. There are some positive things that will happen. I won't spoil those surprises, though. ;)

Congrats on day one. Rinse and repeat, bro. I quit with you again today.

[hippy]

Day 1 almost done. I will make it through day 1. My gumline and jaw feels funny. I've had a stick of big red in my mouth all day. Been thinking about the nature of denial and addiction. Addiction is like, at first a projection of a deeper problem -- it's not the "primary" issue, at least at first. It's real as hell for me right now though!

Thanks all.

[syndrome]

Welcome long hair. Being a northerner from the hippy heaven of Vermont let me send you sunshine daydreams and candy wishes brother.

first man i'm tryin to picksure soul as a long haird hippy freek. 'Crazy'

seckind i gess he coodn't be cuz it looks like hippys and balls a steel wood be 2 diffrint circels and miles a part on a venn diagram.

[Scowick65]

Well Hippy,

Your message for help has brought out the heavy hitters. You will not find better support. I think what you wrote resonated with us all. We all knew dipping sucked and we all felt it was insurmountable. The good news: This thread already comprises what I estimate to be about 3,000 days quit.

We were all like you. We are you. Your first step is to toss the can and post roll.

Whether nicotine dependency was established and/or maintained by being chewed, smoked, drank, snuffed, sprayed, swallowed, sucked, licked or patched, in the end there is only one way out - no nicotine today.

[Parputt]

You seem to be a pretty intelligent individual. Throw the can down and quit NOW!

[Radman]

WP and Soul have laid down the gospel. That's really all you need to know for now other than the fact that there is support out here in cyberworld. This place is not built of a bunch of posers hiding behind keyboards, we are all here to help. Reach out to folks here and make some contacts, both new quitters in your group and crusty old quitters. Anybody here will help you and they're just a PM away.

I'm about your age.... 38 to be exact. I dipped for somewhere around 19 years. If I can do it, so can you. I'm on day 889 today. Why am I still here? Three reasons:

1. To pay it forward. Hopefully I can pass on the help that was given me.
2. To make my daily promise.
3. I can't think of anything more important than spending a few minutes to save my life.

[Souliman]

Welcome long hair. Being a northerner from the hippy heaven of Vermont let me send you sunshine daydreams and candy wishes brother.

The cojones you speak of are in your shorts. If there is quit in you at all its in you right now. Listen to WP. Dump your shit. Find it all and dump it. Then follow the advice in his post. There's a smart kid around here with a tag line that says

"Its amazing what a man can see by the light of his burning boat."

That there is brilliance to me. It forces you to look inside and see who the fuck you want to be. You don't want the bullshit anymore? Make it happen. How far are you willing to go to get it? That's the thing.

Read through WP's words. Execute. Question? Ask. Need motivation? Go look in the mirror and see if that fucker is worth it. I know the guy I see is. He's all I got.

[Libertynow]

Hi all,

I am 37 and I've been dipping for the past 6 and a half years and definitely addicted for at least 5 years. At first it took me about a week to go through a can but now I go through at least 2 or 3 a week if not more. I realize that's nothing compared to some of the folks on here but I have an addictive personality and there is no real difference between me and them except time. I'm very good at lying to myself about the hold nicotine has on me, let alone my wife who is the only one who knows about this embarrassing habit. I told her I stopped it already, but she knows I'm lying and I know that she knows I'm lying. Bullshitting each other like this is not good for any relationship. I am not the first and I won't be the last to be in nicotine's stranglehold.

The real talk is refreshing here, but also terrifying. I thought the cold turkey method was bullshit because I go crazy when I'm suddenly cut off from my dip. My mouth hurts, I grind my teeth, my head feels heavy, I snap at people. I tried to quit before gradually, I tried mixing it up with non-tobacco alternatives, I tried nicotine gum, I tried switching to a brand I don't like as much as my preferred Kodiak. I recognize now I was bullshitting myself throughout it all.

Tobacco is fucking disgusting. Dip is the most disgusting method of taking tobacco. A mouth full of disgusting shit, carrying a soda can around, fucking bullshit. I want to be healthy, I eat right, I exercise, but its all meaningless if I'm stuffing my face with carcinogens, right? :wacko:

Thats it, a typical story I'm sure, now I need to get the cojones to take the first step from shedding this unwanted burden in my life.

Hippy, Glad to see you made the decision to take your life back. I am 42 yrs old and chewed that disgusting crap since I was 14 yrs old. You made the right decision to quit. Do it for yourself first of all, and your family will reap the benefits as well. I am only beginning my journey of quit, I am in my 3rd day! It sucks, but it is a good suck as in the long run its good for me and my family.

Listen to these people, they been where we are, I found out they will praise you and kick your ass when they need to! LOL Stay strong, you can do it! I will stay quit with you!!

[wastepanel]

Hi all,

I am 37 and I've been dipping for the past 6 and a half years and definitely addicted for at least 5 years. At first it took me about a week to go through a can but now I go through at least 2 or 3 a week if not more. I realize that's nothing compared to some of the folks on here but I have an addictive personality and there is no real difference between me and them except time. I'm very good at lying to myself about the hold nicotine has on me, let alone my wife who is the only one who knows about this embarrassing habit. I told her I stopped it already, but she knows I'm lying and I know that she knows I'm lying. Bullshitting each other like this is not good for any relationship. I am not the first and I won't be the last to be in nicotine's stranglehold.

The real talk is refreshing here, but also terrifying. I thought the cold turkey method was bullshit because I go crazy when I'm suddenly cut off from my dip. My mouth hurts, I grind my teeth, my head feels heavy, I snap at people. I tried to quit before gradually, I tried mixing it up with non-tobacco alternatives, I tried nicotine gum, I tried switching to a brand I don't like as much as my preferred Kodiak. I recognize now I was bullshitting myself throughout it all.

Tobacco is fucking disgusting. Dip is the most disgusting method of taking tobacco. A mouth full of disgusting shit, carrying a soda can around, fucking bullshit. I want to be healthy, I eat right, I exercise, but its all meaningless if I'm stuffing my face with carcinogens, right? :wacko:

Thats it, a typical story I'm sure, now I need to get the cojones to take the first step from shedding this unwanted burden in my life.

The thing is that you've already taken your first step by coming here.

The next step is easy: DUMP THE SHIT OUT. SAY GOOD RIDDANCE. BE QUIT.

It sounds harder than what it is, but I have done that step sooooo many times before this place. It's staying quit that usually gets people in the long run.

Luckily, we have a plan for that:

Post roll.-This is your promise that you won't use nicotine today. Say it loud. Say it proud. It tells us that you are quit, and that you want our help. Most importantly, it reminds you what your number 1 priority is. All we ask for is a commitment until tomorrow.

Keep your word.-Do whatever you have to do to stay quit. Punch yourself in the nuts. Beat off into egg salad sandwiches. Run 10 miles. Do hundreds of push-ups. Read every word written here. WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO

Repeat.-Come back tomorrow and we'll advise you what to do then.

For a better explanation, take a look up to the top of this screen to the black bar under the header. Look for the WELCOME CENTER and click there to see how and why we do these things.

Are you quit? (If so...keep reading. If not...quit.)

Post your roll. Proud to be quit with you.

PM me if you need anything, or just ask right here. There's thousands of quitters here willing to do the same just for little old you.

[hippy]

Hi all,

I am 37 and I've been dipping for the past 6 and a half years and definitely addicted for at least 5 years. At first it took me about a week to go through a can but now I go through at least 2 or 3 a week if not more. I realize that's nothing compared to some of the folks on here but I have an addictive personality and there is no real difference between me and them except time. I'm very good at lying to myself about the hold nicotine has on me, let alone my wife who is the only one who knows about this embarrassing habit. I told her I stopped it already, but she knows I'm lying and I know that she knows I'm lying. Bullshitting each other like this is not good for any relationship. I am not the first and I won't be the last to be in nicotine's stranglehold.

The real talk is refreshing here, but also terrifying. I thought the cold turkey method was bullshit because I go crazy when I'm suddenly cut off from my dip. My mouth hurts, I grind my teeth, my head feels heavy, I snap at people. I tried to quit before gradually, I tried mixing it up with non-tobacco alternatives, I tried nicotine gum, I tried switching to a brand I don't like as much as my preferred Kodiak. I recognize now I was bullshitting myself throughout it all.

Tobacco is fucking disgusting. Dip is the most disgusting method of taking tobacco. A mouth full of disgusting shit, carrying a soda can around, fucking bullshit. I want to be healthy, I eat right, I exercise, but its all meaningless if I'm stuffing my face with carcinogens, right? :wacko:

Thats it, a typical story I'm sure, now I need to get the cojones to take the first step from shedding this unwanted burden in my life.