Hello. New feller here.

[traumagnet]

This will sound dumb but u wanna clear fog cranberry juice by the jug full. Days I skipped my drank yep my drank of cranberry juice I slipped back into the fog

[CaliforniaSlim]

Thanks Mike for the reply. I'm doing a little better today. Seems like the fog has lifted some. I entertained my kids and another kid friend last night, so that helped keep my mind occupied. Not to mention they wore my old ass down!
Today is day six. I did get a decent nights sleep last night. I didn't even feel that crappy at 0445. I'm just totally amazed at how bad it physically made me feel to get those toxins out of my system. I think it was good for me to feel so bad. I don't want to go through this crap again!!
Well, that's my update for today. How is everyone else?

Great attitude. Yes, it is weird how miserable that detox part can be, and yes, lick that misery into your memory banks to pull out whenever the craves show up. You don't want to do that again.

Stay strong and stay quit.

[Bigtuna77]

Thanks Mike for the reply. I'm doing a little better today. Seems like the fog has lifted some. I entertained my kids and another kid friend last night, so that helped keep my mind occupied. Not to mention they wore my old ass down!
Today is day six. I did get a decent nights sleep last night. I didn't even feel that crappy at 0445. I'm just totally amazed at how bad it physically made me feel to get those toxins out of my system. I think it was good for me to feel so bad. I don't want to go through this crap again!!
Well, that's my update for today. How is everyone else?

[Mike from AB]

Welcome Russ, just getting caught up on your quit here, congrats on 5 days quit! Awesome work so far. The symptoms sound pretty normal, all round. If it gets to be too much just get that TransAm out again  burn through some gas! There's a healthy release. My 89 5.0 hasn't burnt through so much gas as in the last month :D

[PATRONSAINT]

Day 5. Still doing okay. Cravings are not bad. I just feel like a big turd I've searched for some advice on this and I should probably post it somewhere other than my intro, but here goes:

Can't sleep. Maybe 4 hours total the last two nights. Stomach feels like I'm hungry, but I had plenty to eat.

Have to piss about 6 times a night. Definitely killing the sleeping. I guess it's because I'm not filling up 6 spit bottles a day!

I read on here that nicotine is a laxative. Well by now I should be nic free and I got the "through the screen door" poopies. Maybe just nerves.

Still a little blue but feeling some better. I always cheer up when the kids get home from school.

Well thanks. How are you all doing? I'm being selfish here.

Russ

Hang in there Russ, this is day 5 for me as well!! I've had some serious heartburn and throwing up...and I know it's from the Copenhagen. Sure, I still have cravings; but I'm in this to QUIT, not give up. You can make it Russ, I believe in you! You tell that garbage can of crap YOU'RE DONE!! I QUIT WITH YOU TODAY!!

[dunlapsig]

Day 5. Still doing okay. Cravings are not bad. I just feel like a big turd I've searched for some advice on this and I should probably post it somewhere other than my intro, but here goes:

Can't sleep. Maybe 4 hours total the last two nights. Stomach feels like I'm hungry, but I had plenty to eat.

Have to piss about 6 times a night. Definitely killing the sleeping. I guess it's because I'm not filling up 6 spit bottles a day!

I read on here that nicotine is a laxative. Well by now I should be nic free and I got the "through the screen door" poopies. Maybe just nerves.

Still a little blue but feeling some better. I always cheer up when the kids get home from school.

Well thanks. How are you all doing? I'm being selfish here.

Russ

Tuna,
Nothing selfish about what you are doing. That is exactly what your thread is for. Document your thoughts and feelings, so you have it recorded for posterity, remember the misery you are going through so as not to do it again, and perhaps most importantly, put it out there for the KTC brothers to nudge, push, or kick you if you are veering off the path.

GOod news for you brother. You are walking right along the path. Yep, it's muddy and hard to get a foothold at the beginning, but you are heading the right direction. Keep moving.

Read intros. I think I posted 2 or 3 times about my not being able to sleep. It is part of the process.

Bowels get weird in the beginning of the quit. Some folks get stopped up, I was like you, what I like to call extra-regular.

Keep it up. I am quit with you today. You reminded me of the early misery and how great it is to be quit.

Russ I'm on Day 10 here so i'm a little ahead but still have some of the effects as well. If you search my intro I was just the opposite. Completely backed up for what felt like an eternity. I've never heard the description of "through the screen door" but will go on record and say i'll probably use it before the end of the week.

Cali's descpription of muddy sounds like it applies in more ways then one... 'arse'

I felt the same way about food though. I've just been chewing gum and trying to eat the same amount I was eating before to tough it out. I had cravings for sweets at night and I don't eat sweets... ever.

Keep the quit going and reach out to me if you need any help. Sounds like you are making it but we all know this isn't easy. I quit with you today.

[CaliforniaSlim]

Day 5. Still doing okay. Cravings are not bad. I just feel like a big turd I've searched for some advice on this and I should probably post it somewhere other than my intro, but here goes:

Can't sleep. Maybe 4 hours total the last two nights. Stomach feels like I'm hungry, but I had plenty to eat.

Have to piss about 6 times a night. Definitely killing the sleeping. I guess it's because I'm not filling up 6 spit bottles a day!

I read on here that nicotine is a laxative. Well by now I should be nic free and I got the "through the screen door" poopies. Maybe just nerves.

Still a little blue but feeling some better. I always cheer up when the kids get home from school.

Well thanks. How are you all doing? I'm being selfish here.

Russ

Tuna,
Nothing selfish about what you are doing. That is exactly what your thread is for. Document your thoughts and feelings, so you have it recorded for posterity, remember the misery you are going through so as not to do it again, and perhaps most importantly, put it out there for the KTC brothers to nudge, push, or kick you if you are veering off the path.

GOod news for you brother. You are walking right along the path. Yep, it's muddy and hard to get a foothold at the beginning, but you are heading the right direction. Keep moving.

Read intros. I think I posted 2 or 3 times about my not being able to sleep. It is part of the process.

Bowels get weird in the beginning of the quit. Some folks get stopped up, I was like you, what I like to call extra-regular.

Keep it up. I am quit with you today. You reminded me of the early misery and how great it is to be quit.

[Bigtuna77]

Day 5. Still doing okay. Cravings are not bad. I just feel like a big turd I've searched for some advice on this and I should probably post it somewhere other than my intro, but here goes:

Can't sleep. Maybe 4 hours total the last two nights. Stomach feels like I'm hungry, but I had plenty to eat.

Have to piss about 6 times a night. Definitely killing the sleeping. I guess it's because I'm not filling up 6 spit bottles a day!

I read on here that nicotine is a laxative. Well by now I should be nic free and I got the "through the screen door" poopies. Maybe just nerves.

Still a little blue but feeling some better. I always cheer up when the kids get home from school.

Well thanks. How are you all doing? I'm being selfish here.

Russ

[30isEnuff]

I'd like to respond to each of you, but there's a lot of good stuff coming my way. And I really appreciate that.
I'll just say, this morning, day 3, was a little rough. Last night I felt like I was sleeping with my eyes open. Don't feel rested at all today. Still feel empty. Did some errands for the wife, took a walk, and had alot of water. That helped.
I go back to work tomorrow after being off for 14 days. That should keep me busy. I know it sounds strange, but after about 3 days alone, I really miss my family not being here. That's part of my slump today.
Anyhow, about the beers for lunch. That probably was a little risque. I used to smoke full time, but now the thought of it makes me queasy. I can't wait till the day the thought of dip makes me feel that way.
Just to let you all know, I did not drink the 18 pack last night. That will last me three weeks. I live in a dry county so had to stock up while I was out.
Otherwise I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for checking on me. The wife is being supportive now as well. She didn't think I was serious. After I told her I promised my son, she knows now it's no joke.
Did I mention I quit using dip from Jan 1st 2009 till Jan 1st 2010? Just quit on a whim. Started back only because I was tired of not dipping. What a dumbass!
Tuna

I was about 40 days quit and my wife made a statement that demonstrated her belief/sceptism. She stated "your really quitting aren't you". It will take time, but your wife's faith in your quit will grow as the days add. Quit on my friend.

Come on Tuna Dude.
You want a medal for Jan 1st 2009 till Jan 1st 2010?

Really? You Started back only because You were tired of not dipping?

I'm tired of not having a month long vacation...think I'll take it now.
I'm tired of not being a millionaire...think I'll be one now.
I'm tired of not setting a world record for bench pressing...I'll do it now.

Duuuuuuuuudddddeeeee, You're an addict to "nicotine" or you would not be here.
Please, you have taken breaks from dipping...you NEVER quit. There is a HUGE difference.
When you realize that it is poison and learn to hate every aspect of it like you would hate putting cat shit in your mouth, then you're on your way to being quit! Til then brother...you gotta lay off anything that will weaken your resolve...we are human, not superman. If we were superman we would have never became addicted to the poison, period.
Read for 2 hours here daily. Get your quit on!
Post roll...the earlier the better for your quit.
Keep your word...your word is good, right?
Get to bed, wake and repeat!

Works for me and 10,000 other quitters here.
One day at a time...just do today.
Cheers.

[srans]

I'd like to respond to each of you, but there's a lot of good stuff coming my way. And I really appreciate that.
I'll just say, this morning, day 3, was a little rough. Last night I felt like I was sleeping with my eyes open. Don't feel rested at all today. Still feel empty. Did some errands for the wife, took a walk, and had alot of water. That helped.
I go back to work tomorrow after being off for 14 days. That should keep me busy. I know it sounds strange, but after about 3 days alone, I really miss my family not being here. That's part of my slump today.
Anyhow, about the beers for lunch. That probably was a little risque. I used to smoke full time, but now the thought of it makes me queasy. I can't wait till the day the thought of dip makes me feel that way.
Just to let you all know, I did not drink the 18 pack last night. That will last me three weeks. I live in a dry county so had to stock up while I was out.
Otherwise I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for checking on me. The wife is being supportive now as well. She didn't think I was serious. After I told her I promised my son, she knows now it's no joke.
Did I mention I quit using dip from Jan 1st 2009 till Jan 1st 2010? Just quit on a whim. Started back only because I was tired of not dipping. What a dumbass!
Tuna

I was about 40 days quit and my wife made a statement that demonstrated her belief/sceptism. She stated "your really quitting aren't you". It will take time, but your wife's faith in your quit will grow as the days add. Quit on my friend.

[Bigtuna77]

I'd like to respond to each of you, but there's a lot of good stuff coming my way. And I really appreciate that.
I'll just say, this morning, day 3, was a little rough. Last night I felt like I was sleeping with my eyes open. Don't feel rested at all today. Still feel empty. Did some errands for the wife, took a walk, and had alot of water. That helped.
I go back to work tomorrow after being off for 14 days. That should keep me busy. I know it sounds strange, but after about 3 days alone, I really miss my family not being here. That's part of my slump today.
Anyhow, about the beers for lunch. That probably was a little risque. I used to smoke full time, but now the thought of it makes me queasy. I can't wait till the day the thought of dip makes me feel that way.
Just to let you all know, I did not drink the 18 pack last night. That will last me three weeks. I live in a dry county so had to stock up while I was out.
Otherwise I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for checking on me. The wife is being supportive now as well. She didn't think I was serious. After I told her I promised my son, she knows now it's no joke.
Did I mention I quit using dip from Jan 1st 2009 till Jan 1st 2010? Just quit on a whim. Started back only because I was tired of not dipping. What a dumbass!
Tuna

[B-loMatt]

You are getting good advice here, but it is up to you to listen. Sounds to me like you could benefit from a little reading in the welcome center and words of wisdom sections. Getting drunk and romanticizing the poison is a big time danger to your quit no matter how many days quit you are. This is no joke and one cave can make you a slave again...

[srans]

Congrats on your quit so far my friend. I'm sorry but i've got to be real with you for a second. It's time to began getting that mind right!!

couple of beers while he smoked away on his cigs.

Take this quit serious brother. Don't think for one second you own this quit yet. I've seen to many with a lot more days than you cave. The poison is no joke. It will probe until it finds your weakness.

delicious can of Kodiak.

The taste of kodiak and any other form of poison is the taste of death. Think back to that first time you spent time with the poison. It turned your stomach inside out. It tastes like sh--T!! Start building a hate for the poison my friend. There is nothing delicious about it. It tastes, smells and looks like death. Read my signature line.

She doesn't understand and I can't explain it

My wife didn't understand neither. It was sometime in my quit before I began gaining control of my emotions. Get your wife involved in your quit. Have her read the spousal support link. She will be a very important part of your quit. My wife held me the most accountable and helped me. She knew when to give me space and when I needed help. You need another number let me know.

[Pinched]

Thanks again guys.  Believe it or not I'm still doing pretty good. Stopped by the convenience store and bought some more sugarless gum and other stuff to keep me occupied. Took my brother to the Mexican restaurant for his birthday. Even had a couple of beers while he smoked away on his cigs. Didn't cave. Went to the tobacco / beer store for an 18 pack. Didn't cave! Kinda proud of those two feats! The wife just doesn't understand. I can't hold that against her. She's Never had anything get a hold of her like a delicious can of Kodiak. She doesn't understand and I can't explain it, so F it. You all know where I'm coming from!! And for that I'm grateful.
Took out my Trans Am for some anxiety release. Gave her hell through 2nd,3rd, and 4th. 1st is too many rpms. Better than rubbing one out if you ask me! Thanks for letting me vent. I'll check in later!
Sincerely. Russ. "Big Tuna Vagina"

Tuna, way to hang tight  quit.

My recommendation is to take it ez on the booze intake early on here. Couple of beers at lunch  now an 18 pack... EZ big fella. Too much booze will lower your inhibitions  many folks have lost their quit  claimed the dreaded Alcohol did them in. There will be a time when you are ready, but this early in your quit -- I advise you severely limit intake.

Quit with you today BT!

Hey BigTuna, I highly recommend the following read for spousal support to help other identify with what you are experiencing:

KTC Spousal Support

[30isEnuff]

Thanks again guys.  Believe it or not I'm still doing pretty good. Stopped by the convenience store and bought some more sugarless gum and other stuff to keep me occupied. Took my brother to the Mexican restaurant for his birthday. Even had a couple of beers while he smoked away on his cigs. Didn't cave. Went to the tobacco / beer store for an 18 pack. Didn't cave! Kinda proud of those two feats! The wife just doesn't understand. I can't hold that against her. She's Never had anything get a hold of her like a delicious can of Kodiak. She doesn't understand and I can't explain it, so F it. You all know where I'm coming from!! And for that I'm grateful.
Took out my Trans Am for some anxiety release. Gave her hell through 2nd,3rd, and 4th. 1st is too many rpms. Better than rubbing one out if you ask me! Thanks for letting me vent. I'll check in later!
Sincerely. Russ. "Big Tuna Vagina"

Tuna, way to hang tight  quit.

My recommendation is to take it ez on the booze intake early on here. Couple of beers at lunch  now an 18 pack... EZ big fella. Too much booze will lower your inhibitions  many folks have lost their quit  claimed the dreaded Alcohol did them in. There will be a time when you are ready, but this early in your quit -- I advise you severely limit intake.

Quit with you today BT!

Big T,
You can do this...but you're gonna have to reeeeeaaaallllllyyyy want to be quit every damn day. We do this ODAAT (one day at a time).
We post roll between first piss of the day and shit shower and shave!
We don't fuck around cause we know we are addicts and cannot have one.
1 is too many and 10,000 dips is never enuff.
There are many powerful things to read here on this site. There are many powerful bad ass men of quit here at this site. Just remember 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
Do whatever it takes to "not" put the Poison in your mouth...candy, gum, water, exercise, scream, cuss, shoot cans, drive fast carefully, brush teeth a lot, get into chat and let it all out...One day at a time and the dumbass dipper becomes a smartass quitter!
Bring it on BigT. ODAAT and NAFAR!