D-Day 02/01/08 2:45 PST

[bubblehed668]

I won't forget what you did.

.a letter written a long time ago

"Dear Madam: I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant-General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any words of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering to you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom. Yours very sincerely and respectfully, Abraham Lincoln."~

We have lost our way

I love/hate that first clip. Never fails to bring tears, and when he steps back and salutes.... WoW 'army'

[Ready]

I won't forget what you did.

.a letter written a long time ago

"Dear Madam: I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant-General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any words of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering to you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom. Yours very sincerely and respectfully, Abraham Lincoln."~

We have lost our way

[Ready]

Ready - 8fortysumpin

Your wondering if you can do this. I don't know if you can. That is entirely up to you. What I can tell you is that I would not be here and quit without this site and these fine folks here.

Your word of Honor means something here, until you prove it doesn't. I will not use nicotine today. In any way, shape, or form. Just for today. I can do that. Can you say the same.

I see our fine young men and women in uniform from time to time. They serve with pride, honor and integrity. For those who serve, Thank you. For those who have made the ultimate sacrifice, I have no words.

Semper Fi

[Greg5280]

I understand what posting roll means.

Ready - 825

I will not use nic today.

Period.

Life or death? Life or death?

I choose Life

Me too !!!

[Ready]

I understand what posting roll means.

Ready - 825

I will not use nic today.

Period.

Life or death? Life or death?

I choose Life

[Ready]

Ready - Day 800

I'm here.Ã,  I'm quit.Ã,  I plan on staying that way.

It's a fine day indeed.

Congrats on 800! Wahoo for quit!

Excellent Work !!! Congrats on the 800 !!!

Thanks for all the support !!

Ready is a pillar of quit!

Congratulations, that's a great looking quit you got there.

Nice job Ready!

'worship'

Some Bad Ass quitters up in here ^^^^^^^^

Thanks Gents.

[RAZD611]

Ready - Day 800

I'm here.Ã,  I'm quit.Ã,  I plan on staying that way.

It's a fine day indeed.

Congrats on 800! Wahoo for quit!

Excellent Work !!! Congrats on the 800 !!!

Thanks for all the support !!

Ready is a pillar of quit!

Congratulations, that's a great looking quit you got there.

Nice job Ready!

'worship'

[redyota]

Ready - Day 800

I'm here.Ã,  I'm quit.Ã,  I plan on staying that way.

It's a fine day indeed.

Congrats on 800! Wahoo for quit!

Excellent Work !!! Congrats on the 800 !!!

Thanks for all the support !!

Ready is a pillar of quit!

Congratulations, that's a great looking quit you got there.

Nice job Ready!

[sensei]

Ready - Day 800

I'm here.Ã,  I'm quit.Ã,  I plan on staying that way.

It's a fine day indeed.

Congrats on 800! Wahoo for quit!

Excellent Work !!! Congrats on the 800 !!!

Thanks for all the support !!

Ready is a pillar of quit!

Congratulations, that's a great looking quit you got there.

[niwot]

Ready - Day 800

I'm here.Ã,  I'm quit.Ã,  I plan on staying that way.

It's a fine day indeed.

Congrats on 800! Wahoo for quit!

Excellent Work !!! Congrats on the 800 !!!

Thanks for all the support !!

Ready is a pillar of quit!

[Greg5280]

Ready - Day 800

I'm here.Ã,  I'm quit.Ã,  I plan on staying that way.

It's a fine day indeed.

Congrats on 800! Wahoo for quit!

Excellent Work !!! Congrats on the 800 !!!

Thanks for all the support !!

[Smokeyg]

Ready - Day 800

I'm here. I'm quit. I plan on staying that way.

It's a fine day indeed.

Congrats on 800! Wahoo for quit!

[Ready]

Ready - Day 800

I'm here. I'm quit. I plan on staying that way.

It's a fine day indeed.

[Ready]

Ready - Day 789

I needed to bring this over before it got lost in the shuffle. There really does come a point when everything becomes crystal clear. Enjoy that moment. Then act on the revelation. Until it happens, trust the people that came before. They will help you.

Haven't posted in this since day 4 which I kind of regret, since there were definitely some memorable issues (progression of sleep issues from severely shitty to getting a full nights uninterrupted lastÃ,  night day 11-12, craves getting lighter, but still getting a couple strong ones per day, overall mood is evening out some, though).

Anyway, the point I want to talk to my future self about here are two KTC concepts I've wrapped my head around this time that I don't think I really did before. Of course, there are many, many other things that help here (roll call, knowing what's coming, support from bro's and vets, inspiration from others getting it done, information, accountability, etc), but in terms of basic, elemental mindset, these two following two thoughts keep me in line to start with:

1. Caving is not an option.
2. Not dipping is the most important thing I'll do today.

I may have said number one before, but I didn't mean it. It's the combo with number two that seems to make it work. I don't think I had truly convinced myself that quitting was the most important thing before, and now I have.

What results is an entirely different internal battle than the one before.

Before, caving always occupied one side of the vs. and some seemingly important thing minus dip occupied the other:

1. Just take a dip beforehand and make that work presentation smooth vs. muddle through it, filled with anxiety.
2. Cave in and dip at the party after drinking vs. being pissed off at the party and not having any fun.

These are all the wrong questions and battles. If I believe one and two above, caving is never even part of the fight. Instead now they read more like:

1. Muddle through the work presentation filled with anxiety vs. drink a glass of water, take a deep breath, realize it's not really that bad, and know the next presentation will be even easier than this one since I'll have more distance between me and the nicbitch.
2. Be pissed off and not have any fun at the party vs. staying home in the first place because I know it's early in my quit vs. going to the party and beginning to learn how to enjoy without dip and calling it early if a crave starts to creep up.

"Caving is not an option" is the foundation of this thing, not part of an internal argument once something else "important" shows up. It IS the important thing and preceeds everything else. The only remaining arguments involving important things number 2, 3, 4, etc. is HOW I'm going to deal with them since nicotine isn't even in the picture.

I may seem simple to many, but it's a stark difference to my mindset before when I "tried" to quit or even talked myself out of trying.

[Ready]

Welcome. You have found the best place to quit and stay that way. All of the tools and support required can be found here. You can do this. We will help. Remember, when you post roll, you are giving your word of honor not to use nicotine in any way shape or form, one day at a time. Keep your word.

Here are some links you may find helpful...

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A how to get started by Remy:

index.php?showtopic=1360

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Quit Groups, What do they mean, by SOS

index.php?showtopic=88

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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.

index.php?showtopic=120

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What to Expect when you quit.

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp

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Symptoms of Quitting dip and chew

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp

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Contract to give up...

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp

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Smokeless alternatives

http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp

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How to post roll.

index.php?showtopic=50

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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last (MOST RECENT) Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, check to see that the last few people to post are still on your roll call. Keep your word.

You can do this.