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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2011, 08:34:00 AM »
Writing stuff down is good evo, well done.

If you got something to say in your April group, just hit add reply and type until your heart's content. That way, it won't get lost in the roll call bumpage.

If what you have to say helps one but just one other quitter, then its worth putting it out there.

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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2011, 06:26:00 AM »
good stuff man! keep it up.
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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2011, 10:42:00 PM »
Proud to be quit with you ev! I may be in the March group but this is inspiring to me to read your story nonetheless. Keep up the good work!

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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2011, 03:22:00 PM »
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Well, I guess it’s time to finally have an introduction. I am on Day 53 with no nicotine (55 of no dip). It has actually been a fairly smooth run so far. I dipped for about 22 years, since I was 15. Always Kodiak. I would drive around from store to store until I found it. I had some brief times when I stopped but I would usually just start smoking. The last 8 years or so, I haven’t even really bothered to try to quit dipping. I usually went 2-3 days per can but I would have a dip in most of the day and evening because I would keep a dip in my mouth up to 2 hours. I haven’t spent nearly as much money on dip as a lot of people here because whenever I could I would go to Costco and pay about $14 for a log (gotta love Virginia). Like others I have read about on here, I kept my dipping away from my kids (13, 10, 6) and did not blatantly dip around my wife. We had a “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” policy about dipping. She knew I did it some but it would only get discussed every couple of months, and I would always downplay the amount I used.
I honestly donÂ’t do much on the site other than post roll every day and scan message threads. Being in the April quit group, I canÂ’t afford to post many thought provoking comments while posting roll, or else I would have bumped 3-4 other people.
I think the best advice I've seen on here is take out of this site what you want and forget about the rest. There are honestly a lot of things I donÂ’t particularly care for here, but in the grand scheme of things they donÂ’t matter for shit as long as you donÂ’t use nicotine. IÂ’m not going to get into heated discussions with the straight edge guys on here about whether or not IÂ’m committed enough; I donÂ’t like blaming the tobacco companies for my addiction. I feel like I knew exactly what I was doing; IÂ’m certainly not going to get dragged into any political discussion on here; If IÂ’m not near a phone or computer for 1 day, it's not the end of world if I miss posting roll once (I think IÂ’ve missed 2 so far).
What I am going to do is affirm that I will not dip today, whether you see my post or not.
I said that itÂ’s been pretty smooth for me which is actually pretty surprising. I have many triggers that I have been able to control. I drive around by myself for work, when I would always have a dip in. I have meetings outside on construction sites (another ridiculously easy excuse to dip). I stay up late by myself (always had to have the late night fatty). In addition, IÂ’ve had some unbelievable stress the last few months. I work for myself in real estate development and have had trouble finding enough work. My wife is in nursing school until May. I work a job on nights and weekends to help out. Life is just begging me to give up my quit but it ain't gonna happen.
There are several reasons I will give as to my success as of today:
•   Fake Stuff: I ordered some Hooch and bought Smokey Mountain from Wal Mart. Addressing the oral fixation has been an absolute lifesaver. I was worried for the first few weeks about not being able to stop using it but I have dropped down to taking about 6 fake dips a week.
•   Gum – Orbitz 18 pack of mint varieties from Costco. My jaw hurts some days but my breath is kick-ass!
• Support – I have a very good friend who quit 2 weeks after I did. He is going through a state government employee cessation program that has him on the patch and shit but we still can talk with each other about cravings and making sure we are staying true. My best friend since kindergarten quit last year and he provided some great perspective. And reading the message boards and stories on this site help me appreciate that I am not the only person going through this fight. If these jokers that post on here can do it then I know I sure as hell can!
•   Desire – This is the most important reason. Other times I tried to quit I did it because someone else told me I was supposed to. I really wasnÂ’t interested in quitting. This time, I knew I was ready and I could own the quit. I didnÂ’t even tell my wife for about a week.

Sorry for the length of this post. I realize IÂ’m only 7+ weeks quit, but I really wanted to write down some of my thoughts of how I am progressing, if for nothing else than for me to look at later and if I posted it in my quit group it would get swallowed up by all the roll posts.
Progress journals are a good accountability building strategy, in my opinion. I learn a lot from them. I hope you keep it up, if you enjoy it.

April is an awesome bunch of quitters. May has almost as many. After around 14:00 EST we can post comments without worrying much about bumping.

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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2011, 02:52:00 PM »
Well, I guess it’s time to finally have an introduction. I am on Day 53 with no nicotine (55 of no dip). It has actually been a fairly smooth run so far. I dipped for about 22 years, since I was 15. Always Kodiak. I would drive around from store to store until I found it. I had some brief times when I stopped but I would usually just start smoking. The last 8 years or so, I haven’t even really bothered to try to quit dipping. I usually went 2-3 days per can but I would have a dip in most of the day and evening because I would keep a dip in my mouth up to 2 hours. I haven’t spent nearly as much money on dip as a lot of people here because whenever I could I would go to Costco and pay about $14 for a log (gotta love Virginia). Like others I have read about on here, I kept my dipping away from my kids (13, 10, 6) and did not blatantly dip around my wife. We had a “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” policy about dipping. She knew I did it some but it would only get discussed every couple of months, and I would always downplay the amount I used.
I honestly donÂ’t do much on the site other than post roll every day and scan message threads. Being in the April quit group, I canÂ’t afford to post many thought provoking comments while posting roll, or else I would have bumped 3-4 other people.
I think the best advice I've seen on here is take out of this site what you want and forget about the rest. There are honestly a lot of things I donÂ’t particularly care for here, but in the grand scheme of things they donÂ’t matter for shit as long as you donÂ’t use nicotine. IÂ’m not going to get into heated discussions with the straight edge guys on here about whether or not IÂ’m committed enough; I donÂ’t like blaming the tobacco companies for my addiction. I feel like I knew exactly what I was doing; IÂ’m certainly not going to get dragged into any political discussion on here; If IÂ’m not near a phone or computer for 1 day, it's not the end of world if I miss posting roll once (I think IÂ’ve missed 2 so far).
What I am going to do is affirm that I will not dip today, whether you see my post or not.
I said that itÂ’s been pretty smooth for me which is actually pretty surprising. I have many triggers that I have been able to control. I drive around by myself for work, when I would always have a dip in. I have meetings outside on construction sites (another ridiculously easy excuse to dip). I stay up late by myself (always had to have the late night fatty). In addition, IÂ’ve had some unbelievable stress the last few months. I work for myself in real estate development and have had trouble finding enough work. My wife is in nursing school until May. I work a job on nights and weekends to help out. Life is just begging me to give up my quit but it ain't gonna happen.
There are several reasons I will give as to my success as of today:
•   Fake Stuff: I ordered some Hooch and bought Smokey Mountain from Wal Mart. Addressing the oral fixation has been an absolute lifesaver. I was worried for the first few weeks about not being able to stop using it but I have dropped down to taking about 6 fake dips a week.
•   Gum – Orbitz 18 pack of mint varieties from Costco. My jaw hurts some days but my breath is kick-ass!
• Support – I have a very good friend who quit 2 weeks after I did. He is going through a state government employee cessation program that has him on the patch and shit but we still can talk with each other about cravings and making sure we are staying true. My best friend since kindergarten quit last year and he provided some great perspective. And reading the message boards and stories on this site help me appreciate that I am not the only person going through this fight. If these jokers that post on here can do it then I know I sure as hell can!
•   Desire – This is the most important reason. Other times I tried to quit I did it because someone else told me I was supposed to. I really wasnÂ’t interested in quitting. This time, I knew I was ready and I could own the quit. I didnÂ’t even tell my wife for about a week.

Sorry for the length of this post. I realize IÂ’m only 7+ weeks quit, but I really wanted to write down some of my thoughts of how I am progressing, if for nothing else than for me to look at later and if I posted it in my quit group it would get swallowed up by all the roll posts.

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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 03:43:00 PM »
Awesome!!! Great choice.

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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 09:51:00 AM »
Done. I went day 3. Last gum was Saturday, last dip last Thursday.
Thanks guys.
Smokey and I may have some fun conversations down the line...

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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 09:41:00 AM »
Welcome, ev.

Post up some April roll call, get your quit on, brother!
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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 08:43:00 AM »
Welcome evo. Looks like you have a day 2 or 3...or 4. Post it up and get involved.

Evo...meet Smokey.

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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 08:14:00 AM »
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OK, I have sputtered trying to do right here and I keep screwing up so I'm looking to make sure I'm good to go. Last Thursday I posted for Day 1, but put it in the wrong part of the roll call. That got fixed but as I was reading more I saw where I shouldn't have posted roll call since I was chewing nicorette. My quit plan, working with a previous quitter, had me chewing a couple pieces of gum for a couple days after quitting dip.
Anyway, haven't had gum since Saturday night, haven't had dip since Thursday.
I'm planning to post roll tomorrow for Day 1. Probably could justify day 2 or 3 but I have no problem starting here. Besides, I want a little gap between all the new years resolution quitters hall of fame speeches and mine.

Quit going surprisingly well. Using the fake stuff a bunch. Will need to quit that but that's a problem for another day. have had better luck getting work since I quit than the 2 months before I quit. Karma is awesome.
Wait...probably could justify day 2 or 3? What does "probably justify" mean? You either quit or you didn't. I commend your decision to drop the gum prior to starting your official roll posting. However, if you quit using the gum Saturday night, then Saturday night is your official day one. Sunday - day two. Monday - day three. Tuesday - day four. If that's the way it went down, you should definitely post up a day 4 tomorrow (at least a day 3 if you don't want to count Saturday night).

Posting day one tomorrow is completely arbitrary and a disservice to yourself. It sells you short and will create trust issues right from the get-go. You'll post 97 and think to yourself, "Cool, day 100". And who gives a shit about the other quitter's HOF speeches compared to yours? You think you're better than a resolution quitter because you waited a few extra days to take the step? Worry about your quit and your quit alone. Help others as a means of helping yourself. You'll be amazed how effective complete honesty and accountability can be. But remember, it's not a popularity contest. If it was, I'd run this fucking show.

Go aks your mother.
One thing I know I need to catch on to here is the ultra seriousness. I am a bit of a smart ass (like the comment about having separation from the resolution quitters) and it doesn't seem to go over to well here.
"Probably Justify" meant that I had nicorette in my pocket the last few days and was ready to use them if I felt the need, as I had intended in my quit plan. The fact that i didn't use them didn't mean I wasn't planning to, hence it may be tough to call it day 3 of the quit when I really was planning on using nicorette.
What I know is that I am ultra serious about quitting and am fucking pumped about ending my 22 year addiction to it.
And I can't ask my mother because she passed away when I was 3 years old...
Actually she is alive and well and loving the fact that I have quit dipping. I just wanted to raise the serious level.
I don't care if you carried them or not, the fact remains that you didn't use them. So count the days. Also, quit carrying the gum around. Easy access increases the chance at failure.
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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 11:58:00 PM »
Quote from: evdog1919
Quote from: Smokeyg
Quote from: evdog1919
OK, I have sputtered trying to do right here and I keep screwing up so I'm looking to make sure I'm good to go. Last Thursday I posted for Day 1, but put it in the wrong part of the roll call. That got fixed but as I was reading more I saw where I shouldn't have posted roll call since I was chewing nicorette. My quit plan, working with a previous quitter, had me chewing a couple pieces of gum for a couple days after quitting dip.
Anyway, haven't had gum since Saturday night, haven't had dip since Thursday.
I'm planning to post roll tomorrow for Day 1. Probably could justify day 2 or 3 but I have no problem starting here. Besides, I want a little gap between all the new years resolution quitters hall of fame speeches and mine.

Quit going surprisingly well. Using the fake stuff a bunch. Will need to quit that but that's a problem for another day. have had better luck getting work since I quit than the 2 months before I quit. Karma is awesome.
Wait...probably could justify day 2 or 3? What does "probably justify" mean? You either quit or you didn't. I commend your decision to drop the gum prior to starting your official roll posting. However, if you quit using the gum Saturday night, then Saturday night is your official day one. Sunday - day two. Monday - day three. Tuesday - day four. If that's the way it went down, you should definitely post up a day 4 tomorrow (at least a day 3 if you don't want to count Saturday night).

Posting day one tomorrow is completely arbitrary and a disservice to yourself. It sells you short and will create trust issues right from the get-go. You'll post 97 and think to yourself, "Cool, day 100". And who gives a shit about the other quitter's HOF speeches compared to yours? You think you're better than a resolution quitter because you waited a few extra days to take the step? Worry about your quit and your quit alone. Help others as a means of helping yourself. You'll be amazed how effective complete honesty and accountability can be. But remember, it's not a popularity contest. If it was, I'd run this fucking show.

Go aks your mother.
One thing I know I need to catch on to here is the ultra seriousness. I am a bit of a smart ass (like the comment about having separation from the resolution quitters) and it doesn't seem to go over to well here.
"Probably Justify" meant that I had nicorette in my pocket the last few days and was ready to use them if I felt the need, as I had intended in my quit plan. The fact that i didn't use them didn't mean I wasn't planning to, hence it may be tough to call it day 3 of the quit when I really was planning on using nicorette.
What I know is that I am ultra serious about quitting and am fucking pumped about ending my 22 year addiction to it.
And I can't ask my mother because she passed away when I was 3 years old...
Actually she is alive and well and loving the fact that I have quit dipping. I just wanted to raise the serious level.
Humor has no place here. This is life or death. If you want to make haha hoohoo, you've come to the wrong place. If you want to live, stick with us.

I'm sorry to hear about your mother. I think she would have liked me.

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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 11:53:00 PM »
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Quote from: evdog1919
OK, I have sputtered trying to do right here and I keep screwing up so I'm looking to make sure I'm good to go. Last Thursday I posted for Day 1, but put it in the wrong part of the roll call. That got fixed but as I was reading more I saw where I shouldn't have posted roll call since I was chewing nicorette. My quit plan, working with a previous quitter, had me chewing a couple pieces of gum for a couple days after quitting dip.
Anyway, haven't had gum since Saturday night, haven't had dip since Thursday.
I'm planning to post roll tomorrow for Day 1. Probably could justify day 2 or 3 but I have no problem starting here. Besides, I want a little gap between all the new years resolution quitters hall of fame speeches and mine.

Quit going surprisingly well. Using the fake stuff a bunch. Will need to quit that but that's a problem for another day. have had better luck getting work since I quit than the 2 months before I quit. Karma is awesome.
Wait...probably could justify day 2 or 3? What does "probably justify" mean? You either quit or you didn't. I commend your decision to drop the gum prior to starting your official roll posting. However, if you quit using the gum Saturday night, then Saturday night is your official day one. Sunday - day two. Monday - day three. Tuesday - day four. If that's the way it went down, you should definitely post up a day 4 tomorrow (at least a day 3 if you don't want to count Saturday night).

Posting day one tomorrow is completely arbitrary and a disservice to yourself. It sells you short and will create trust issues right from the get-go. You'll post 97 and think to yourself, "Cool, day 100". And who gives a shit about the other quitter's HOF speeches compared to yours? You think you're better than a resolution quitter because you waited a few extra days to take the step? Worry about your quit and your quit alone. Help others as a means of helping yourself. You'll be amazed how effective complete honesty and accountability can be. But remember, it's not a popularity contest. If it was, I'd run this fucking show.

Go aks your mother.
One thing I know I need to catch on to here is the ultra seriousness. I am a bit of a smart ass (like the comment about having separation from the resolution quitters) and it doesn't seem to go over to well here.
"Probably Justify" meant that I had nicorette in my pocket the last few days and was ready to use them if I felt the need, as I had intended in my quit plan. The fact that i didn't use them didn't mean I wasn't planning to, hence it may be tough to call it day 3 of the quit when I really was planning on using nicorette.
What I know is that I am ultra serious about quitting and am fucking pumped about ending my 22 year addiction to it.
And I can't ask my mother because she passed away when I was 3 years old...
Actually she is alive and well and loving the fact that I have quit dipping. I just wanted to raise the serious level.

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Re: Better late than never intro
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 11:31:00 PM »
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OK, I have sputtered trying to do right here and I keep screwing up so I'm looking to make sure I'm good to go. Last Thursday I posted for Day 1, but put it in the wrong part of the roll call. That got fixed but as I was reading more I saw where I shouldn't have posted roll call since I was chewing nicorette. My quit plan, working with a previous quitter, had me chewing a couple pieces of gum for a couple days after quitting dip.
Anyway, haven't had gum since Saturday night, haven't had dip since Thursday.
I'm planning to post roll tomorrow for Day 1. Probably could justify day 2 or 3 but I have no problem starting here. Besides, I want a little gap between all the new years resolution quitters hall of fame speeches and mine.

Quit going surprisingly well. Using the fake stuff a bunch. Will need to quit that but that's a problem for another day. have had better luck getting work since I quit than the 2 months before I quit. Karma is awesome.
Wait...probably could justify day 2 or 3? What does "probably justify" mean? You either quit or you didn't. I commend your decision to drop the gum prior to starting your official roll posting. However, if you quit using the gum Saturday night, then Saturday night is your official day one. Sunday - day two. Monday - day three. Tuesday - day four. If that's the way it went down, you should definitely post up a day 4 tomorrow (at least a day 3 if you don't want to count Saturday night).

Posting day one tomorrow is completely arbitrary and a disservice to yourself. It sells you short and will create trust issues right from the get-go. You'll post 97 and think to yourself, "Cool, day 100". And who gives a shit about the other quitter's HOF speeches compared to yours? You think you're better than a resolution quitter because you waited a few extra days to take the step? Worry about your quit and your quit alone. Help others as a means of helping yourself. You'll be amazed how effective complete honesty and accountability can be. But remember, it's not a popularity contest. If it was, I'd run this fucking show.

Go aks your mother.

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Better late than never intro
« on: January 10, 2011, 10:55:00 PM »
OK, I have sputtered trying to do right here and I keep screwing up so I'm looking to make sure I'm good to go. Last Thursday I posted for Day 1, but put it in the wrong part of the roll call. That got fixed but as I was reading more I saw where I shouldn't have posted roll call since I was chewing nicorette. My quit plan, working with a previous quitter, had me chewing a couple pieces of gum for a couple days after quitting dip.
Anyway, haven't had gum since Saturday night, haven't had dip since Thursday.
I'm planning to post roll tomorrow for Day 1. Probably could justify day 2 or 3 but I have no problem starting here. Besides, I want a little gap between all the new years resolution quitters hall of fame speeches and mine.

Quit going surprisingly well. Using the fake stuff a bunch. Will need to quit that but that's a problem for another day. have had better luck getting work since I quit than the 2 months before I quit. Karma is awesome.