@emoney each quitter only gets one introduction. Feel free to use your intro to journal, ask questions, share victories and reach out to members who have yet to sign up.
But please do not create additional topics in this section of the forum.
Quit on.
Looks like this is in my thread. Either the message was moved manually or moved automatically.
@MNxEngineer
Consider sending these types of messages over PM instead of diluting my thread with administrative /logistical concerns. These types of messages get in the way of the mission here.
If you could, go ahead and remove these last two messages between you and I.
KTC is built on such tenants as honesty, integrity and transparency. As addicts we love to lie, bend the truth and hide things. Because we are fighting an addiction and transparency is important here, we only remove posts on rare occasion, i.e. they stem from a spam account.
@MNxEngineer
The message posted actually does resemble spam. Again, take or leave my recommendation to handle this over a PM in the future, but It seems like the mission of spreading the quit should be the priority without interleaved spam messages. This is adding fuel to my suspicions that ego sometimes trumps the mission with some on this board.
You are free to interpret it how you wish but you don't get to come (back) and dictate the way the site is run.
Instead of arguing with me in here, why don't you take that energy and passion and engage your fellow quitters.
And if by ego you mean me trying to kindly explain why I addressed this here publicly, than so be it. Addicts are a funny bunch I tell ya.
I gave a suggestion. I’m not dictating anything, just pointing out that is likely the reason for a lot of the behavior I see with some. This is one example, another would be members who seem to really enjoy the part about going after cavers then ghost once the caver explains themselves.
Hopefully there isn’t too much “addict speak” in here, that seems to be the favorite fail safe for some to win their arguments. As shown in your last passive aggressive sentence, “addicts are a funny bunch I tell ya”.
So yes, the behavior I am observing right now is an elevated ego that has probably gone unchecked, along with a few others. I’m actually surprised some of your buddies haven’t come to your aid and piled on yet to validate you more.
So quit then.
Show us how bad ass of a quitter you are.
Question though: you left ktc and failed? Then you tried on your own and failed? Maybe you need to slow down, listen to others, and get your quit on.
I'm sorry you miss your friends from last time. Make more or move on. Although I'll have every quitters back here any time they need me, I do it so they'll have mine. That's why I post still...even when my feelings are hurt or I think I'm right.
Why did you leave?
What ya doing differently this time?
Pointing out nonsense from people with large egos who may have lost sight of the goals here is not mutually exclusive to listening to what people have to say.
I will continue to do that at the same time as quitting.
This is not a blaring example, but @wastepanel ‘s post is definitely a slight pile on. Again, trying to invalidate any legitimate criticism of a vet/mod/admins action by attacking my previous cave.
To answer your questions, authentic or not, I left because I felt I didn’t need it anymore. I felt like it was a reminder of dip rather than a reminder not to dip.
What am I doing differently? I plan to keep posting roll here or atleast have someone I’m accountable to make this promise not to use nicotine every day. Not having that is what slowly eroded my mindset.
Not piling on man. I pointed out the flaw in your logic in that thinking you are more successful on your own. Spoiler....you're not.
In fact, you know what the success rate (6 months quit) of doing it on your own? 5%. With group therapy (or ya know...posting roll and making friends and staying quit), it still only rises 30%. You know why? There's no fucking magic pill and we are all doing our best to stay quit. I've done it now for over 10 years. You know how? Quitters here help me and I help others. I ain't guessing what my best way of being quit. I fucking know.
You think it's a pile on because it stings. Hard truths do that. Yeah...there are the assholes that only come out when there's blood and looking to destroy another. But assholes are everywhere.
You deserve to be quit. Be quit.
I asked you why it happened and what you are doing differently now. I did that because it's what we ask after failure. If you Dont learn from your mistakes, you are bound to repeat them. You have failed twice now. Don't make it a third because of pride.
Fucking grab a hand, walk with somebody, and be quit. If you're here for followers, go away now. Quitters are all peers. Nobody is more quit than anybody else here.
