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Re: Element's introduction
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2015, 02:29:00 PM »
I see a roll post, so we both quit today. Good stuff!
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Re: Element's introduction
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2015, 12:23:00 PM »
Thanks Mr. Cope! This morning has been tough! It's encouraging to know I am supported by you.

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Re: Element's introduction
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2015, 09:59:00 AM »
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: Element
Charlotte, NC area
Today I choose to quit nicotine. I will not focus on tomorrow. Today I promise and will have the integrity to keep my promise.

Last dip was yesterday morning. Skoal mint Extra, long cut. 11 years. Started when a roomate in college said that it helped him focus and study. It helped me because I would buzz like a hornet, even on skoal bandits (pouches). I can't remember the last time I had a positive feeling from tobacco. At this point I only use it so I don't get irritable and because it is so ingrained in my daily activities, like driving, showering, and relaxing. Which means I am a slave.

I work in a corporate office and canÂ’t go putting a hillybilly dip in my lip at work. And now, thanks to dip, I have (had) to chew nic gum at work just so I wouldnÂ’t get all pissy when I need to be professional. Slave? Yep. ItÂ’s so ridiculous. I am such a closet dipper.

I have kidded myself in the past thinking I can quit whenever I want. I have even quit for a few days before and say “see! I can do it” and then go back. What a fuckin’ joke, all the rationalization, lies, and bargaining is such absolute bullshit. I’m sick of it. I hate how I feel right now. Tense, achey, this is not natural. I should not be sitting here pissed off for no reason, but this is what you get when you use poison for 11 years and this is where the quit begins.

Alcohol must also be abstained from if I am to maintain the will necessary to battle the nic demon.

My dad is an excellent role model. He has never been addicted to anything. Why? Because his father was an abusive alcoholic and smoker. Died at 60. My dad said, nope, hell no will I do that to my body and my kids. So how dare I, after being given such a gift of a father and example, start to repeat the sins of his father. My dad had an excuse to be an addict to alcohol and tobacco in the role model he had. I sure as hell donÂ’t and yet here I am on the path to addiction and early death. No longer. This ends now and today, until I die of causes other than those from alcohol and tobacco.

My work is cool enough to offer a Quitline program but that is geared towards smokers and the operators are honestly way to mamsy-pamsy for me. I have been reading the KTC forums and the whole site today and it’s clear that you don’t fuck with your quit. Some sorry ass folks come cryin’ back like oh I was weak oh I bought a can. They get hell and in a lot of cases get kicked out. Shit, that’s for real. And guess what? I fucking need that kind of pressure! Because I’m a fucking slave and all this touchy feely bullshit doesn’t work. Quiting fucking sucks, it will fucking suck, embrace it if you want to live. Otherwise, slap them shackles back on and enjoy your demise. I read that quit contract and I was like, uhm, exactly. “I wish I would have started tobacco earlier.” Is what got me. Uh, hell no I don’t. I wish I had never started. But here we are.

More on why I want to quit: It keeps me indoors because I'm ashamed of it. It keeps me sedentary because it's not something I like to do while moving around and I have associated it (hopefully not permanently) with video games. I'm a big gamer and I do nothing to relax except play games. (I own 200+ games on Steam, play mainly Blizzard/Valve titles). Very little TV, almost only games. Not healthy either but we'll tackle that after I get rid of the poison I keep putting in my lip. I think the addiction of games goes hand in hand with the nic. I'm not ready to quit games yet because I don't think games are evil but I am aware it is a major trigger.

The other problem is that I freakinÂ’ love it. I have it so associated with the pleasure of relaxation. And not having it, with absolute stress. Part of this 100 day transformation has to be to come to despise dip. Loathe it. Puke when I see and smell it. IÂ’ve refreshed myself with the scare-straight stories of folks losing their jaws, their lives, painful cancers that leave behind loved ones. ThatÂ’s really helped me today.

As if thatÂ’s not enough, I have a child on the way (due early November). My first one. If I canÂ’t muster the blood, guts, and nuts necessary to quit and stay quit this time then I am a sorry sack of shit that deserves to die young with half a jaw. I refuse to accept that path. As if I donÂ’t have ultimate control, free will in this equation. A lot of what I have read on the site has helped me see that I am not alone in how people can literally resign themselves to death, for a weed. A FUCKING WEED, in the lip. Are you fucking kidding me. ItÂ’s madness. Not me. Not anymore.
Until I came to this site and read the rules of joining a group I had planned to quit the can but keep on with the nic gum (like previous bouts of dip-free life). Not anymore. I have finally come around and see that the problem is not dip perse, but nicotine.

IÂ’m a Christ-follower, even if the language is currently nic-bitch controlled. I apologize. Pray for me. I want to go back to the joy-filled, encouraging, person I was before tobacco stole that from me. I want that for me. I want to come out of the shadows and not feel like IÂ’m hiding anything about me. I want this for my wife, who deserves a loving partner who doesnÂ’t get snappy when he hasnÂ’t had his little weedgame time, and for my future child, who needs to have a good role model who isnÂ’t a slave to any substance and above all IS ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THEM GROW OLD.

Cmark called me just now and said the first 3 days are the worst. ItÂ’s true, IÂ’ve done this before. I got my seeds and my water bottle. Thanks for all the support so far. ItÂ’s never felt as possible as it does now. IÂ’ve burned the ships. ThereÂ’s no going back. IÂ’m all piss and vinegar right now on day 1. I give you all the right to shove my nose in this message on Day 10, 50, 100, 1000 every day where I must admit IÂ’m an addict and will choose this day to not use nicotine.

Newly adopted mantras to close:
Stay quit. ItÂ’s life or death.
You donÂ’t have to be quit forever. YouÂ’ll be dead long before then.
Element, welcome to KTC, I see not only are you posting roll but you also commented on the thread of other fellow quitters. That is badass bud. It is great to have a brother a day away from your own, I too have that and he is not only a brother on KTC he is a damn fine friend of mine now. Come to think of it he is also in NC, you might try looking him up "JLud 007" from October 2013 Quit Group.

Keep on doing this and being a beast in quit and others will follow, be prepared though because some will fail.

Beyond finding an alternative exercise and lots of water helps. When I first quit I would drop and do pushups or burpees when a craving came on. I kept going until the craving faded away. Not only did the craving leave so did my belly fat.

Welcome brother,
P
One of the greatest gifts of this site is knowing that you aren't alone.

Ninja dipper? Tons of us. Long long showers, driving to nowhere for hours, hiding in shame? Tons of us. Believed (past tense) that nicotine helped us relax/achieve/focus? Most of us.

That last part is bullshit. Nicotine takes. Money. Health. And time. Ridiculous really. You will grow to hate that part of your intro in time - and anger will fuel your quit. If I can do this, trust me you can.

You won't believe how many non hillbillies are on this site by the way. Lol.

(I'm from the ozarks originally, so I don't count)

Welcome aboard. If I can help - shoot me a pm.

-wtw
Hey Element. Mr. Cope here. I too am from the Charlotte area. Lived in South Charlotte for 2.5 years but just recently (last December) built a house on Lake Wylie over in SC. Sent you a PM with my contact info. If you need local support hit me up, we can text, talk, meet, whatever man.

Today I quit with you brother!
KISS MY ASS, I DON'T NEED YOU ANY LONGER.

ACTUALLY I NEVER NEEDED YOU, I WAS JUST TO FUCKING WEAK TO REALIZE I WAS ADDICTED TO YOUR FUCKING SHIT!

NOW I KNOW!


I use to use Cope to Cope for over 30 years, now I have to Cope without Cope just to Cope.

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Re: Element's introduction
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2015, 07:58:00 AM »
DL56, Diesel. Thank you! Off to post role on Day 2.

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Re: Element's introduction
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2015, 10:41:00 PM »
You don't love it. You don't need it and you never did.

You had everything you needed to be relaxed and focused until you introduced nicotine to your system.

The myth didnt start when you put that first dip in, it started when you spit it out. Once you spit that dip and that nicotine leaves your system, you are left with an empty and insecure feeling. When you introduce nicotine back into your system you might actually feel more relaxed and secure than you did a moment prior but really your brain is being tricked into believing you have received some kind of pleasure prop. That's simply not true.

The only thing you are doing is relieving withdrawal pang between dips. Nicotine fills NO voids in your life. It only creates more.

Hard concept to grasp? Sure. But it's the truth.

One of the hardest aspects of quitting is coming to terms with the FACT that nioctine does NOTHING for you. It's just that we've poisoned and brainwashed ourselves for so long, we start to believe the lies nicotine creates. I used to think I could never enjoy golf again without a dip in until my wife said, "my uncles golfed 3 times a week for 20 years and doesn't smoke or dip and he loves golf".

Duhhhh.

You're brain needs a lot of rewiring and while it won't be easy it certainly will be worth it.

This place will help you rewire. Stick around.

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Re: Element's introduction
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2015, 09:43:00 PM »
Welcome, Element! Great intro. Sounds like you have a good grasp on how terrible it is to have nicotine in your life. I'm on day 15 and that first week was definitely a battle. Hang in there and live on this site -- it's helped me out a TON, especially during the first few days.

One night I was having a killer craving, just absolutely brutal fog and withdrawal-related depression, and hopped on chat. Hearing people tell me that it was completely normal and that they could relate to what I was going through made me feel a ton better. Get on over to the August quit group and post roll every damn day. You have a support group now that will hold you accountable and will make sure you hold us accountable too.

Let's kick nicotine's ass together today.

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Re: Element's introduction
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2015, 09:21:00 PM »
Thanks everyone for the quick replies!

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Re: Element's introduction
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2015, 09:13:00 PM »
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: Element
Charlotte, NC area
Today I choose to quit nicotine. I will not focus on tomorrow. Today I promise and will have the integrity to keep my promise.

Last dip was yesterday morning. Skoal mint Extra, long cut. 11 years. Started when a roomate in college said that it helped him focus and study. It helped me because I would buzz like a hornet, even on skoal bandits (pouches). I can't remember the last time I had a positive feeling from tobacco. At this point I only use it so I don't get irritable and because it is so ingrained in my daily activities, like driving, showering, and relaxing. Which means I am a slave.

I work in a corporate office and canÂ’t go putting a hillybilly dip in my lip at work. And now, thanks to dip, I have (had) to chew nic gum at work just so I wouldnÂ’t get all pissy when I need to be professional. Slave? Yep. ItÂ’s so ridiculous. I am such a closet dipper.

I have kidded myself in the past thinking I can quit whenever I want. I have even quit for a few days before and say “see! I can do it” and then go back. What a fuckin’ joke, all the rationalization, lies, and bargaining is such absolute bullshit. I’m sick of it. I hate how I feel right now. Tense, achey, this is not natural. I should not be sitting here pissed off for no reason, but this is what you get when you use poison for 11 years and this is where the quit begins.

Alcohol must also be abstained from if I am to maintain the will necessary to battle the nic demon.

My dad is an excellent role model. He has never been addicted to anything. Why? Because his father was an abusive alcoholic and smoker. Died at 60. My dad said, nope, hell no will I do that to my body and my kids. So how dare I, after being given such a gift of a father and example, start to repeat the sins of his father. My dad had an excuse to be an addict to alcohol and tobacco in the role model he had. I sure as hell donÂ’t and yet here I am on the path to addiction and early death. No longer. This ends now and today, until I die of causes other than those from alcohol and tobacco.

My work is cool enough to offer a Quitline program but that is geared towards smokers and the operators are honestly way to mamsy-pamsy for me. I have been reading the KTC forums and the whole site today and it’s clear that you don’t fuck with your quit. Some sorry ass folks come cryin’ back like oh I was weak oh I bought a can. They get hell and in a lot of cases get kicked out. Shit, that’s for real. And guess what? I fucking need that kind of pressure! Because I’m a fucking slave and all this touchy feely bullshit doesn’t work. Quiting fucking sucks, it will fucking suck, embrace it if you want to live. Otherwise, slap them shackles back on and enjoy your demise. I read that quit contract and I was like, uhm, exactly. “I wish I would have started tobacco earlier.” Is what got me. Uh, hell no I don’t. I wish I had never started. But here we are.

More on why I want to quit: It keeps me indoors because I'm ashamed of it. It keeps me sedentary because it's not something I like to do while moving around and I have associated it (hopefully not permanently) with video games. I'm a big gamer and I do nothing to relax except play games. (I own 200+ games on Steam, play mainly Blizzard/Valve titles). Very little TV, almost only games. Not healthy either but we'll tackle that after I get rid of the poison I keep putting in my lip. I think the addiction of games goes hand in hand with the nic. I'm not ready to quit games yet because I don't think games are evil but I am aware it is a major trigger.

The other problem is that I freakinÂ’ love it. I have it so associated with the pleasure of relaxation. And not having it, with absolute stress. Part of this 100 day transformation has to be to come to despise dip. Loathe it. Puke when I see and smell it. IÂ’ve refreshed myself with the scare-straight stories of folks losing their jaws, their lives, painful cancers that leave behind loved ones. ThatÂ’s really helped me today.

As if thatÂ’s not enough, I have a child on the way (due early November). My first one. If I canÂ’t muster the blood, guts, and nuts necessary to quit and stay quit this time then I am a sorry sack of shit that deserves to die young with half a jaw. I refuse to accept that path. As if I donÂ’t have ultimate control, free will in this equation. A lot of what I have read on the site has helped me see that I am not alone in how people can literally resign themselves to death, for a weed. A FUCKING WEED, in the lip. Are you fucking kidding me. ItÂ’s madness. Not me. Not anymore.
Until I came to this site and read the rules of joining a group I had planned to quit the can but keep on with the nic gum (like previous bouts of dip-free life). Not anymore. I have finally come around and see that the problem is not dip perse, but nicotine.

IÂ’m a Christ-follower, even if the language is currently nic-bitch controlled. I apologize. Pray for me. I want to go back to the joy-filled, encouraging, person I was before tobacco stole that from me. I want that for me. I want to come out of the shadows and not feel like IÂ’m hiding anything about me. I want this for my wife, who deserves a loving partner who doesnÂ’t get snappy when he hasnÂ’t had his little weedgame time, and for my future child, who needs to have a good role model who isnÂ’t a slave to any substance and above all IS ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THEM GROW OLD.

Cmark called me just now and said the first 3 days are the worst. ItÂ’s true, IÂ’ve done this before. I got my seeds and my water bottle. Thanks for all the support so far. ItÂ’s never felt as possible as it does now. IÂ’ve burned the ships. ThereÂ’s no going back. IÂ’m all piss and vinegar right now on day 1. I give you all the right to shove my nose in this message on Day 10, 50, 100, 1000 every day where I must admit IÂ’m an addict and will choose this day to not use nicotine.

Newly adopted mantras to close:
Stay quit. ItÂ’s life or death.
You donÂ’t have to be quit forever. YouÂ’ll be dead long before then.
Element, welcome to KTC, I see not only are you posting roll but you also commented on the thread of other fellow quitters. That is badass bud. It is great to have a brother a day away from your own, I too have that and he is not only a brother on KTC he is a damn fine friend of mine now. Come to think of it he is also in NC, you might try looking him up "JLud 007" from October 2013 Quit Group.

Keep on doing this and being a beast in quit and others will follow, be prepared though because some will fail.

Beyond finding an alternative exercise and lots of water helps. When I first quit I would drop and do pushups or burpees when a craving came on. I kept going until the craving faded away. Not only did the craving leave so did my belly fat.

Welcome brother,
P
One of the greatest gifts of this site is knowing that you aren't alone.

Ninja dipper? Tons of us. Long long showers, driving to nowhere for hours, hiding in shame? Tons of us. Believed (past tense) that nicotine helped us relax/achieve/focus? Most of us.

That last part is bullshit. Nicotine takes. Money. Health. And time. Ridiculous really. You will grow to hate that part of your intro in time - and anger will fuel your quit. If I can do this, trust me you can.

You won't believe how many non hillbillies are on this site by the way. Lol.

(I'm from the ozarks originally, so I don't count)

Welcome aboard. If I can help - shoot me a pm.

-wtw

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Re: Element's introduction
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2015, 08:41:00 PM »
Quote from: Element
Charlotte, NC area
Today I choose to quit nicotine. I will not focus on tomorrow. Today I promise and will have the integrity to keep my promise.

Last dip was yesterday morning. Skoal mint Extra, long cut. 11 years. Started when a roomate in college said that it helped him focus and study. It helped me because I would buzz like a hornet, even on skoal bandits (pouches). I can't remember the last time I had a positive feeling from tobacco. At this point I only use it so I don't get irritable and because it is so ingrained in my daily activities, like driving, showering, and relaxing. Which means I am a slave.

I work in a corporate office and canÂ’t go putting a hillybilly dip in my lip at work. And now, thanks to dip, I have (had) to chew nic gum at work just so I wouldnÂ’t get all pissy when I need to be professional. Slave? Yep. ItÂ’s so ridiculous. I am such a closet dipper.

I have kidded myself in the past thinking I can quit whenever I want. I have even quit for a few days before and say “see! I can do it” and then go back. What a fuckin’ joke, all the rationalization, lies, and bargaining is such absolute bullshit. I’m sick of it. I hate how I feel right now. Tense, achey, this is not natural. I should not be sitting here pissed off for no reason, but this is what you get when you use poison for 11 years and this is where the quit begins.

Alcohol must also be abstained from if I am to maintain the will necessary to battle the nic demon.

My dad is an excellent role model. He has never been addicted to anything. Why? Because his father was an abusive alcoholic and smoker. Died at 60. My dad said, nope, hell no will I do that to my body and my kids. So how dare I, after being given such a gift of a father and example, start to repeat the sins of his father. My dad had an excuse to be an addict to alcohol and tobacco in the role model he had. I sure as hell donÂ’t and yet here I am on the path to addiction and early death. No longer. This ends now and today, until I die of causes other than those from alcohol and tobacco.

My work is cool enough to offer a Quitline program but that is geared towards smokers and the operators are honestly way to mamsy-pamsy for me. I have been reading the KTC forums and the whole site today and it’s clear that you don’t fuck with your quit. Some sorry ass folks come cryin’ back like oh I was weak oh I bought a can. They get hell and in a lot of cases get kicked out. Shit, that’s for real. And guess what? I fucking need that kind of pressure! Because I’m a fucking slave and all this touchy feely bullshit doesn’t work. Quiting fucking sucks, it will fucking suck, embrace it if you want to live. Otherwise, slap them shackles back on and enjoy your demise. I read that quit contract and I was like, uhm, exactly. “I wish I would have started tobacco earlier.” Is what got me. Uh, hell no I don’t. I wish I had never started. But here we are.

More on why I want to quit: It keeps me indoors because I'm ashamed of it. It keeps me sedentary because it's not something I like to do while moving around and I have associated it (hopefully not permanently) with video games. I'm a big gamer and I do nothing to relax except play games. (I own 200+ games on Steam, play mainly Blizzard/Valve titles). Very little TV, almost only games. Not healthy either but we'll tackle that after I get rid of the poison I keep putting in my lip. I think the addiction of games goes hand in hand with the nic. I'm not ready to quit games yet because I don't think games are evil but I am aware it is a major trigger.

The other problem is that I freakinÂ’ love it. I have it so associated with the pleasure of relaxation. And not having it, with absolute stress. Part of this 100 day transformation has to be to come to despise dip. Loathe it. Puke when I see and smell it. IÂ’ve refreshed myself with the scare-straight stories of folks losing their jaws, their lives, painful cancers that leave behind loved ones. ThatÂ’s really helped me today.

As if thatÂ’s not enough, I have a child on the way (due early November). My first one. If I canÂ’t muster the blood, guts, and nuts necessary to quit and stay quit this time then I am a sorry sack of shit that deserves to die young with half a jaw. I refuse to accept that path. As if I donÂ’t have ultimate control, free will in this equation. A lot of what I have read on the site has helped me see that I am not alone in how people can literally resign themselves to death, for a weed. A FUCKING WEED, in the lip. Are you fucking kidding me. ItÂ’s madness. Not me. Not anymore.
Until I came to this site and read the rules of joining a group I had planned to quit the can but keep on with the nic gum (like previous bouts of dip-free life). Not anymore. I have finally come around and see that the problem is not dip perse, but nicotine.

IÂ’m a Christ-follower, even if the language is currently nic-bitch controlled. I apologize. Pray for me. I want to go back to the joy-filled, encouraging, person I was before tobacco stole that from me. I want that for me. I want to come out of the shadows and not feel like IÂ’m hiding anything about me. I want this for my wife, who deserves a loving partner who doesnÂ’t get snappy when he hasnÂ’t had his little weedgame time, and for my future child, who needs to have a good role model who isnÂ’t a slave to any substance and above all IS ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THEM GROW OLD.

Cmark called me just now and said the first 3 days are the worst. ItÂ’s true, IÂ’ve done this before. I got my seeds and my water bottle. Thanks for all the support so far. ItÂ’s never felt as possible as it does now. IÂ’ve burned the ships. ThereÂ’s no going back. IÂ’m all piss and vinegar right now on day 1. I give you all the right to shove my nose in this message on Day 10, 50, 100, 1000 every day where I must admit IÂ’m an addict and will choose this day to not use nicotine.

Newly adopted mantras to close:
Stay quit. ItÂ’s life or death.
You donÂ’t have to be quit forever. YouÂ’ll be dead long before then.
Element, welcome to KTC, I see not only are you posting roll but you also commented on the thread of other fellow quitters. That is badass bud. It is great to have a brother a day away from your own, I too have that and he is not only a brother on KTC he is a damn fine friend of mine now. Come to think of it he is also in NC, you might try looking him up "JLud 007" from October 2013 Quit Group.

Keep on doing this and being a beast in quit and others will follow, be prepared though because some will fail.

Beyond finding an alternative exercise and lots of water helps. When I first quit I would drop and do pushups or burpees when a craving came on. I kept going until the craving faded away. Not only did the craving leave so did my belly fat.

Welcome brother,
P
"If you want to quit then stop talking and just QUIT. If you want to kill yourself a bullet is cheaper and faster than a tin, plus it eliminates my hearing you whine and cry like a bitch."

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Element's introduction
« on: May 10, 2015, 07:53:00 PM »
Charlotte, NC area
Today I choose to quit nicotine. I will not focus on tomorrow. Today I promise and will have the integrity to keep my promise.

Last dip was yesterday morning. Skoal mint Extra, long cut. 11 years. Started when a roomate in college said that it helped him focus and study. It helped me because I would buzz like a hornet, even on skoal bandits (pouches). I can't remember the last time I had a positive feeling from tobacco. At this point I only use it so I don't get irritable and because it is so ingrained in my daily activities, like driving, showering, and relaxing. Which means I am a slave.

I work in a corporate office and canÂ’t go putting a hillybilly dip in my lip at work. And now, thanks to dip, I have (had) to chew nic gum at work just so I wouldnÂ’t get all pissy when I need to be professional. Slave? Yep. ItÂ’s so ridiculous. I am such a closet dipper.

I have kidded myself in the past thinking I can quit whenever I want. I have even quit for a few days before and say “see! I can do it” and then go back. What a fuckin’ joke, all the rationalization, lies, and bargaining is such absolute bullshit. I’m sick of it. I hate how I feel right now. Tense, achey, this is not natural. I should not be sitting here pissed off for no reason, but this is what you get when you use poison for 11 years and this is where the quit begins.

Alcohol must also be abstained from if I am to maintain the will necessary to battle the nic demon.

My dad is an excellent role model. He has never been addicted to anything. Why? Because his father was an abusive alcoholic and smoker. Died at 60. My dad said, nope, hell no will I do that to my body and my kids. So how dare I, after being given such a gift of a father and example, start to repeat the sins of his father. My dad had an excuse to be an addict to alcohol and tobacco in the role model he had. I sure as hell donÂ’t and yet here I am on the path to addiction and early death. No longer. This ends now and today, until I die of causes other than those from alcohol and tobacco.

My work is cool enough to offer a Quitline program but that is geared towards smokers and the operators are honestly way to mamsy-pamsy for me. I have been reading the KTC forums and the whole site today and it’s clear that you don’t fuck with your quit. Some sorry ass folks come cryin’ back like oh I was weak oh I bought a can. They get hell and in a lot of cases get kicked out. Shit, that’s for real. And guess what? I fucking need that kind of pressure! Because I’m a fucking slave and all this touchy feely bullshit doesn’t work. Quiting fucking sucks, it will fucking suck, embrace it if you want to live. Otherwise, slap them shackles back on and enjoy your demise. I read that quit contract and I was like, uhm, exactly. “I wish I would have started tobacco earlier.” Is what got me. Uh, hell no I don’t. I wish I had never started. But here we are.

More on why I want to quit: It keeps me indoors because I'm ashamed of it. It keeps me sedentary because it's not something I like to do while moving around and I have associated it (hopefully not permanently) with video games. I'm a big gamer and I do nothing to relax except play games. (I own 200+ games on Steam, play mainly Blizzard/Valve titles). Very little TV, almost only games. Not healthy either but we'll tackle that after I get rid of the poison I keep putting in my lip. I think the addiction of games goes hand in hand with the nic. I'm not ready to quit games yet because I don't think games are evil but I am aware it is a major trigger.

The other problem is that I freakinÂ’ love it. I have it so associated with the pleasure of relaxation. And not having it, with absolute stress. Part of this 100 day transformation has to be to come to despise dip. Loathe it. Puke when I see and smell it. IÂ’ve refreshed myself with the scare-straight stories of folks losing their jaws, their lives, painful cancers that leave behind loved ones. ThatÂ’s really helped me today.

As if thatÂ’s not enough, I have a child on the way (due early November). My first one. If I canÂ’t muster the blood, guts, and nuts necessary to quit and stay quit this time then I am a sorry sack of shit that deserves to die young with half a jaw. I refuse to accept that path. As if I donÂ’t have ultimate control, free will in this equation. A lot of what I have read on the site has helped me see that I am not alone in how people can literally resign themselves to death, for a weed. A FUCKING WEED, in the lip. Are you fucking kidding me. ItÂ’s madness. Not me. Not anymore.
Until I came to this site and read the rules of joining a group I had planned to quit the can but keep on with the nic gum (like previous bouts of dip-free life). Not anymore. I have finally come around and see that the problem is not dip perse, but nicotine.

IÂ’m a Christ-follower, even if the language is currently nic-bitch controlled. I apologize. Pray for me. I want to go back to the joy-filled, encouraging, person I was before tobacco stole that from me. I want that for me. I want to come out of the shadows and not feel like IÂ’m hiding anything about me. I want this for my wife, who deserves a loving partner who doesnÂ’t get snappy when he hasnÂ’t had his little weedgame time, and for my future child, who needs to have a good role model who isnÂ’t a slave to any substance and above all IS ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THEM GROW OLD.

Cmark called me just now and said the first 3 days are the worst. ItÂ’s true, IÂ’ve done this before. I got my seeds and my water bottle. Thanks for all the support so far. ItÂ’s never felt as possible as it does now. IÂ’ve burned the ships. ThereÂ’s no going back. IÂ’m all piss and vinegar right now on day 1. I give you all the right to shove my nose in this message on Day 10, 50, 100, 1000 every day where I must admit IÂ’m an addict and will choose this day to not use nicotine.

Newly adopted mantras to close:
Stay quit. ItÂ’s life or death.
You donÂ’t have to be quit forever. YouÂ’ll be dead long before then.