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Offline randy2134

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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 07:33:00 PM »
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Knoffy - where are you bro? We are all here pulling for you. I hope you are doing ok, if not - let's get back on this bitch.

Let us know how you are doing... There are a bunch of guys here who are interested in YOUR quit. Give us an update!!!
Knoffy - As a marine myself - (although I'm Air Force now) I respect your take charge attitude that you showed in your initial post on this thread. I'm quitting with you right now, your motivation helps my motivation.

I hope to see you back on the thread soon - I'm guessing by the tone of your last post you were on your way soon out the door on another deployment - So maybe you don't have internet access. Post back as soon as you can bro! were all here to help! PM me id you need anything.

FYI - little deployment tip - DOD internet in centcom blocks all forum websites (including KTC).. So set up the forum to email you with all posts in your quit group. You can reply to one of the emails every day - it wont be in the right format, but it will post, I'm sure your group will understand..
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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2013, 12:25:00 PM »
Knoffy -

Well, since you haven't posted, I have to assume that you are no longer quit. If you happen to log back on and read this, let me assure you that we are STILL here to support your quit.
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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 10:24:00 AM »
Knoffy - where are you bro? We are all here pulling for you. I hope you are doing ok, if not - let's get back on this bitch.

Let us know how you are doing... There are a bunch of guys here who are interested in YOUR quit. Give us an update!!!
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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2013, 11:37:00 AM »
Hey Knoffy - Where are you? How are things going? PM me if you need anything.
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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2013, 12:04:00 AM »
You already have a good handle on what 'can be' a successful game plan.

I was very similar to you on your short time vs. long time thoughts. I knew I could suffer through the hard physical part as I suffer almost daily on my bike rides. Heck, I am good a suffering and I actually like it so as tough as that part was, it left a weird smile on my face.

Once past that, I became scared for awhile, that I couldn't really quit for good. A few things happened next such getting really mad at my addiction, getting disgusted when I would see someone dip and realizing that I got a lot out of trying to help other's beat this thing.

Get involved on here, meet some people and hold each other accountable and you can and will gain your freedom back.

I quit with you.
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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2013, 12:06:00 PM »
Doing GREAT Knoffy... Day 10 Already

Keep up the good work am proud to be QUIT with ya
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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2013, 08:17:00 AM »
Knoffy - just noticed we have the same quit date (Nov.5). I, like you, have had temporary stoppages in the past. I've been an on/off smoker and chewer (Cope Wintergreen) for many years. It's time to put this thing down for good.

Hang tough every day my friend. We can do this!

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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 01:54:00 PM »
Knoffy, welcome to KTC. You have been given some sound advice from some pretty bad ass quitters already, so I wont add much to their recommendations. Nice job of posting roll today...that is the benchmark of our day. It is our promise not to use nicotine that day. Simple. It is also the price of admission to KTC. Welcome again and PM me if I can help you in any way. Wayne
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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2013, 10:12:00 AM »
Right on bro. One day at a time. You got this.

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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 10:03:00 AM »
Welcome and congratulations. As Traumag said, you havn't yet begun to quit! All you did before was temporary. It sounds like you have put the thought in and are bracing yourself for a long siege. While I admire it - just remember this one simple thing. You must focus on the very SHORT term.

You commit to us by posting roll that you quit TODAY. Then, you do whatever you have to do to fight that battle second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, until you wake-up and do it again.

Don't loose sight of the long term. That is good. But, be victorious in the minutes you conquer dip. Celebrate the hours. Be a champion each day you kick that cans ass. Then, do it again.

Sounds like you have some experience with the fog. So, you know what's coming. Just like basic training - it's just a kick in the balls. Get over it. Embrace it. Own it. You know what to do.

Let me know if I can help you. I am at 177 days without dip. I am 40. My first dip was when I was 5 or 6 years old. No shit - older brother thought it would be funny to give it to me. I really started dipping about 16 or 17. I have had my temporary stoppages in the past as well. I chewed Copenhagen snuff at a rate of a can per day. My fog was brutal. I am missing about 2 1/2 months of my life from the fog - I don't remember shit other than not being able to sleep or focus.

Congratulations on your decision. Thank you for your service to this country. I am a veteran as well - US Army. If I can do this, so can you. Follow me.

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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 07:23:00 AM »
Welcome,
My advice is read read read listen learn. Read everything this place has to offer from HOF speeches to threads. There is a vast amount of info here. If for some reason you are able to read it all re read it after the fog has gone.

Now Marine lets tighten up your verbiage you never quit before you had a stoppage. Make this your quit. We quit here ODAAT one day at a time we don't worry bout next week. Post roll it is the single most important thing we do here.
Posting roll is the cornerstone of your quit by posting roll you promise Yourself first then us that YOU will not use today only. Wake tomorrow n repeat.

Go to the welcome center and let the suck begin.

Need anything PM me I am here.
Complacency sucks, one moment of it is the difference between being a user and a quitter....OIB

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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 05:39:00 AM »
Oh one more thing. You don't need to quit quitting, you need to quit quitting quitting. Or just quit every day, keep it simple.
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Re: I'm quitting quitting
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 05:35:00 AM »
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I'm done quitting. I have dipped since I was a freshman in high school. Dip of choice: dip, as long as it's in a can and you can grab a pinch. Mostly I dipped cope straight. I am a US marine who has decided that it is time to quit. In previous quits, I would last a few months until my next big deployment or field exercise, where, despite having quit for the past 5 months, would allow myself to be convinced that the stress of the situation I was in overpowered or was more important than my quit. My problem was that at the start of these quits, I did not include accountability, foresight and planning, personal integrity, and commitment into the quit.

For example, each time I quit, I stocked up on seeds, gum, and fake chew, and then just toughed out the next 2-8 weeks. I almost appreciated and enjoyed the challenge, and while it was difficult, the quit was fresh on my mind and I wasn't cracking. As time went on, and the physical urges of cessation were less frequent, my grasp slackened. As James Mattis once said, "complacency kills." I became complacent about my quit. After a while, a stressful enough situation would come about and, the quit having melted away in my mind, I would break my quit and the cycle would slowly continue.

Why should this time be any different? First off, I have killthecan.org. I know it is not a panacea by any means, but there's something about daily, regimented involvement that seems appealing. I'm also not putting all my eggs in one basket, however. I think the most telling sign that my quits weren't permanent before was that I kept them to myself. I didn't tell my fellow marines that dip, I didn't tell my parents or sister, and I didn't tell my girlfriend. I think not telling them served as a safety net for me, for if I failed my quit, I would only let myself down, rather than all of the others I mentioned before. I sat down with all of those people and presented them with my plan (short-term, mid-term, long-term) as well as a contract of my quit. It says that I am pledging to them that I will stay quit (not for 2 weeks, 5 weeks, or a year. that I will stay quit, period.) This lack of prior accountability had me living a total lie man. Quit after quit and all I was doing was full of shit. I think that's the thing that I never anticipated. The hardest part of quitting is not the first two weeks: that's the shit that involves physical urges. The hard part is when the physical urges die off, and you're left with your brain, as it's fucking wily. I'm done with all of this bullshit. My girlfriend is in. My family is in. My buddies are in.

At the end of the day, all of these contracts and pledges are just words and talk. Actions, rather, are the true measure of progress and success, and I have completed day 1 of the rest of my life without nicotine and dip. Measly in comparison to some of you vets out there, but I'm proud nonetheless, and I will continue making my pledge day by day. As always, I am willing to take any advice you all might have to make my quit more successful. Thanks and sorry for the long post!
Quit every day brother! I tried like you before (granted my stress was not war). This place is smart if you just do the roll call. It's good to see new people posting roll. Keeps me going.
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I'm quitting quitting
« on: November 06, 2013, 12:18:00 AM »
I'm done quitting. I have dipped since I was a freshman in high school. Dip of choice: dip, as long as it's in a can and you can grab a pinch. Mostly I dipped cope straight. I am a US marine who has decided that it is time to quit. In previous quits, I would last a few months until my next big deployment or field exercise, where, despite having quit for the past 5 months, would allow myself to be convinced that the stress of the situation I was in overpowered or was more important than my quit. My problem was that at the start of these quits, I did not include accountability, foresight and planning, personal integrity, and commitment into the quit.

For example, each time I quit, I stocked up on seeds, gum, and fake chew, and then just toughed out the next 2-8 weeks. I almost appreciated and enjoyed the challenge, and while it was difficult, the quit was fresh on my mind and I wasn't cracking. As time went on, and the physical urges of cessation were less frequent, my grasp slackened. As James Mattis once said, "complacency kills." I became complacent about my quit. After a while, a stressful enough situation would come about and, the quit having melted away in my mind, I would break my quit and the cycle would slowly continue.

Why should this time be any different? First off, I have killthecan.org. I know it is not a panacea by any means, but there's something about daily, regimented involvement that seems appealing. I'm also not putting all my eggs in one basket, however. I think the most telling sign that my quits weren't permanent before was that I kept them to myself. I didn't tell my fellow marines that dip, I didn't tell my parents or sister, and I didn't tell my girlfriend. I think not telling them served as a safety net for me, for if I failed my quit, I would only let myself down, rather than all of the others I mentioned before. I sat down with all of those people and presented them with my plan (short-term, mid-term, long-term) as well as a contract of my quit. It says that I am pledging to them that I will stay quit (not for 2 weeks, 5 weeks, or a year. that I will stay quit, period.) This lack of prior accountability had me living a total lie man. Quit after quit and all I was doing was full of shit. I think that's the thing that I never anticipated. The hardest part of quitting is not the first two weeks: that's the shit that involves physical urges. The hard part is when the physical urges die off, and you're left with your brain, as it's fucking wily. I'm done with all of this bullshit. My girlfriend is in. My family is in. My buddies are in.

At the end of the day, all of these contracts and pledges are just words and talk. Actions, rather, are the true measure of progress and success, and I have completed day 1 of the rest of my life without nicotine and dip. Measly in comparison to some of you vets out there, but I'm proud nonetheless, and I will continue making my pledge day by day. As always, I am willing to take any advice you all might have to make my quit more successful. Thanks and sorry for the long post!