Going to be a tough road

[GlennFtheKodiak]

we are now on day 4... Stil going well, can't say I have it licked, but I am a work in progress and three full days plus, is really something for me. Now when I get to the week milestone, that is when I will say I have acheived something... :)

one day at a time Gspot

I agree, one day at a time... I guess I am at day 5 now... Still a work in progress, especially since I work in an industry where I see guys do it all the time (Construction), but I haven't asked anyone, nor have I even thought about it. In fact, I was pretty proud of myself today at the Dayton International Airport Project we have going on when I told one of our carpenters I thought he should quit and explained my scare. I think it hit home, especially when I mentioned his wife and kids needing him...

I will say though, I felt like a hypocrit saying it, I mean I chewed for 26 years and have just given it up 5 days ago and already preaching? I just don't want to see anyone else get the scare I did, but I meant it that I didn't want him to have to go through what I did, especially the tests for cancer and the not knowing until the results come...

I like that "G Spot" since there can only be one Glenn.

[gsize19]

we are now on day 4... Stil going well, can't say I have it licked, but I am a work in progress and three full days plus, is really something for me. Now when I get to the week milestone, that is when I will say I have acheived something... :)

one day at a time Gspot

I agree, one day at a time... I guess I am at day 5 now... Still a work in progress, especially since I work in an industry where I see guys do it all the time (Construction), but I haven't asked anyone, nor have I even thought about it. In fact, I was pretty proud of myself today at the Dayton International Airport Project we have going on when I told one of our carpenters I thought he should quit and explained my scare. I think it hit home, especially when I mentioned his wife and kids needing him...

I will say though, I felt like a hypocrit saying it, I mean I chewed for 26 years and have just given it up 5 days ago and already preaching? I just don't want to see anyone else get the scare I did, but I meant it that I didn't want him to have to go through what I did, especially the tests for cancer and the not knowing until the results come...

[Skoal Monster]

we are now on day 4... Stil going well, can't say I have it licked, but I am a work in progress and three full days plus, is really something for me. Now when I get to the week milestone, that is when I will say I have acheived something... :)

one day at a time Gspot

[gsize19]

we are now on day 4... Stil going well, can't say I have it licked, but I am a work in progress and three full days plus, is really something for me. Now when I get to the week milestone, that is when I will say I have acheived something... :)

[PlasticForks]

Hi everyone, I'm new to this, to any forum actually, so apologies if I do something wrong. I'm on my 4th day of quitting - i've chewed for the last 2.5 years. I went to the doc about 2 months ago, they checked out my mouth, said I was okay, and then I started again. In the last couple of days, before i quit, I had friends tell me (and I've noticed myself) that my lower lip looks swollen, almost like I have a dip in even when i don't. I can also definitely "notice" my lower lip and the areas where I used to put the dip.

Has anyone else had this problem? And will my lower lip eventually go back to the way it looked before I started chewing?

thx to anyone for any advice, tips, same experiences etc. I'm pretty paranoid about this right now.

[Skoal Monster]

Ok, I was just worried it was still around somewhere.  Empty works for me.

Officially now is 29 hours... Haven't craved it... Cleaned out my car of any spit cans, etc., just disgusted me.

I also had to see a Ear nose and throat specialist today. Unlike the family doctor, he felt there was absolutely no issues with any of the lesions in my mouth, though because of pain in the lymph node area, won't rule it out. I just do not need a biopsy. I was asked to come back in two weeks, after I would have been done chewing Skoal for two weeks and a day, so he can ensure his suspicions about the areas in my mouth were correct, that no further treatment would be needed.

My wife asked when we were leaving, with the good news, would I be tempted to chew again. I told her no way, this time, I was literally scared more than I have ever been in my life...

See no tough love needed, a cancer scare was all I needed. I know I am just hours in to a quit, but I suspect days will go very quickly, into months and moving on to years!!! :D

congrats g-rated.

I once packed a dip as I walked out of the office after my 2nd biopsy. This will sound odd but the fear of cancer will not infact keep you quit. Even in some of Jenny Kerns writings she tells how after surgery and chemo etc Tom told her he still craved. Your quit needs to be deeper than that. Your wife is no dummy. My guess is she's heard alot of shit about quitting before. Just a guess. But in any case I'm sure she was scared as hell too, so I'm happy for you both.

There will still be trials ahead, stay resolute and keep at it one day at a time.

See, no tough love...... just love 'Kiss' 'loot01'

[gsize19]

Ok, I was just worried it was still around somewhere. Empty works for me.

Officially now is 29 hours... Haven't craved it... Cleaned out my car of any spit cans, etc., just disgusted me.

I also had to see a Ear nose and throat specialist today. Unlike the family doctor, he felt there was absolutely no issues with any of the lesions in my mouth, though because of pain in the lymph node area, won't rule it out. I just do not need a biopsy. I was asked to come back in two weeks, after I would have been done chewing Skoal for two weeks and a day, so he can ensure his suspicions about the areas in my mouth were correct, that no further treatment would be needed.

My wife asked when we were leaving, with the good news, would I be tempted to chew again. I told her no way, this time, I was literally scared more than I have ever been in my life...

See no tough love needed, a cancer scare was all I needed. I know I am just hours in to a quit, but I suspect days will go very quickly, into months and moving on to years!!! :D

[Jeeper]

Ok, I was just worried it was still around somewhere. Empty works for me.

[gsize19]

I too am a new quitter on the board. 1 thing troubles me about your post.
You said you did not dump it but you no longer have it. Is it in the trash can,
did you throw it away at a commercial establishment?

If it is in the trash can you have access to, go get it right now and empty the can.
Do not give yourself an out. I am on day 6 and would have caved if I had put a can in the trash. It is bad to say but I would have gone through the trash to retrieve it.

Drop the NIC bitch right now with all of us on here. Read up on here, there is a wealth of information. Listen to the vets, they know what we are going through. They have already gone through it. Make YOURSELF a promise, this is the last time you will quit because you will not cave.

I'm here for you brother.

No, it was empty... It was done, over, finished... No access to it because it was done... It has been nearly 24 hours, I have had absolutely no craving, where as I generally would have had 6 in that time. I know the tough love works for some, and I appreciate the efforts. I said it was hard, but because of the fear of death, i never said I wouldn't do it. I set a date and time, which was actually my way of closure. It didn't have to be anyone elses way, but it was mine.

There is nothing troubling really about what I said. It is gone, over , no more. FINISHED!!! when I hit 24 hours of not chewing, that is milestone number one of many to come. I am not turning back, and honestly, I don't need tough love to tell me that... :D

[Ready]

I too am a new quitter on the board. 1 thing troubles me about your post.
You said you did not dump it but you no longer have it. Is it in the trash can,
did you throw it away at a commercial establishment?

If it is in the trash can you have access to, go get it right now and empty the can.
Do not give yourself an out. I am on day 6 and would have caved if I had put a can in the trash. It is bad to say but I would have gone through the trash to retrieve it.

Drop the NIC bitch right now with all of us on here. Read up on here, there is a wealth of information. Listen to the vets, they know what we are going through. They have already gone through it. Make YOURSELF a promise, this is the last time you will quit because you will not cave.

I'm here for you brother.

Thanks guys, I didn't dump it, but I know longer have it...

I agree... this is troublesome.

[Jeeper]

I too am a new quitter on the board. 1 thing troubles me about your post.
You said you did not dump it but you no longer have it. Is it in the trash can,
did you throw it away at a commercial establishment?

If it is in the trash can you have access to, go get it right now and empty the can.
Do not give yourself an out. I am on day 6 and would have caved if I had put a can in the trash. It is bad to say but I would have gone through the trash to retrieve it.

Drop the NIC bitch right now with all of us on here. Read up on here, there is a wealth of information. Listen to the vets, they know what we are going through. They have already gone through it. Make YOURSELF a promise, this is the last time you will quit because you will not cave.

I'm here for you brother.

[gsize19]

I am glad I found this site. I am looking for any resource to help me with what I consider a long road of recovery.

I have recently been going to doctor visits and now have been advised to see an Ear Nose and Throat specialist for the fear that my 26 year habit has potentially caused me a life threatneing condition, we all know as cancer.

I had hoped to face this later in life than sooner, as I am 37, but I knew the day would come sometime. So now I have two life altering things going to be happening at once. The treatment of what I fear, cancer, and the recovery from a can a day habit since for the last 15 years, and dipping a total of 26 years.

I sit here in fear, fear for my life, fear of quitting as it has been my only outlet for nerves, stress. I have never smoked, I haven't drank since I was 24 years old, I chewed, that was my vice. I am now scared, of two different things, the treatment and the quitting.

Any advice will be very welcome. My last "dip" will be tomorrow, 5/23, probably around 8PM as I swore to myself, I will only finish this can. Now tomorrow, I am on a mission to find the fake stuff, and have nicotine patches to help that chemical craving. Is this enough? Or do I need other things, that some of you have tried that seems to have been successful?

Thanks,

Glenn

DUMP THE REST OF THAT CAN IMMEDIATELY!!!!

There is no other option. Your life depends on it. Whether you die tomorrow or 100 years from now, there is absolutely no point to dipping. Fuck putting an '8PM deadline' on it. DO IT NOW!!! Take control of your life and dump the rest of that fucking poison immediately!

Nicotine Patches are just delaying the inevitable. If you want to be successful quitting then you have to do it COLD TURKEY. No dip, no patches, no nic gum, no nothing. You just tough it out everyday and stay close to this site. Visit the quit groups and get into the August group once you decide that you aren't going to dip.

Glenn,

This all comes down to one question - what's more important to you? helping yourself recover or helping yourself die?

Personally, I hold my life in a very high regard. I deserve every bit of freedom that I have earned. I would throw that can out RIGHT NOW and start the healing process RIGHT NOW. But that's just me.

You identify two life altering things in your post: the treatment of cancer and the process of quitting. I'm happy to see that cancer is what you fear the most. If you find that you don't have cancer, that this is all just a big scare not requiring aggressive treatment, is the process of quitting still worth it? Is it a must? Or will you fulfill your "hope" of being diagnosed with cancer later in life? Is putting up with the withdrawals now worth the potential health benefits later? After all, you could quit now and you could still find cancer later. We all could. Is it worth it? Are you worth it?

It's OK to fear the quit now, but you must fully commit yourself to this quit. You must not quit solely out of fear - you must see the positives as well. How will your life change for the better if you throw that can out RIGHT NOW? No safety can, no outs, no patches. Just you, your balls and your self-worth.

Thanks guys, I didn't dump it, but I know longer have it... It will be a tough road, and I will not consider this day one, as I have only been without for less than 2 hours, but it certainly is the start of the rest of my life.

As for patches and fake stuff. I have to say that I quit cold turkey eight years ago and after two weeks, I was treated for depression. This was after a serious auto accident and I was in the hospital forced to quit really. After two weeks, the doctors even recommended the alternatives and that helped until I started playing baseball again. Now at 37, with alternatives and no baseball in my sights, I am 100% positive that I will be tobacco free as of 2:56PM 5/23/10 for the remainder of my time on this earth.

I do appreciate input as for the "F em" approach with even no alternatives, but knowing what I went through last time, and then there are other issues, such as weight gain, depression, etc., I feel I am taking a step in the right direction today.

[Smokeyg]

I am glad I found this site. I am looking for any resource to help me with what I consider a long road of recovery.

I have recently been going to doctor visits and now have been advised to see an Ear Nose and Throat specialist for the fear that my 26 year habit has potentially caused me a life threatneing condition, we all know as cancer.

I had hoped to face this later in life than sooner, as I am 37, but I knew the day would come sometime. So now I have two life altering things going to be happening at once. The treatment of what I fear, cancer, and the recovery from a can a day habit since for the last 15 years, and dipping a total of 26 years.

I sit here in fear, fear for my life, fear of quitting as it has been my only outlet for nerves, stress. I have never smoked, I haven't drank since I was 24 years old, I chewed, that was my vice. I am now scared, of two different things, the treatment and the quitting.

Any advice will be very welcome. My last "dip" will be tomorrow, 5/23, probably around 8PM as I swore to myself, I will only finish this can. Now tomorrow, I am on a mission to find the fake stuff, and have nicotine patches to help that chemical craving. Is this enough? Or do I need other things, that some of you have tried that seems to have been successful?

Thanks,

Glenn

DUMP THE REST OF THAT CAN IMMEDIATELY!!!!

There is no other option. Your life depends on it. Whether you die tomorrow or 100 years from now, there is absolutely no point to dipping. Fuck putting an '8PM deadline' on it. DO IT NOW!!! Take control of your life and dump the rest of that fucking poison immediately!

Nicotine Patches are just delaying the inevitable. If you want to be successful quitting then you have to do it COLD TURKEY. No dip, no patches, no nic gum, no nothing. You just tough it out everyday and stay close to this site. Visit the quit groups and get into the August group once you decide that you aren't going to dip.

Glenn,

This all comes down to one question - what's more important to you? helping yourself recover or helping yourself die?

Personally, I hold my life in a very high regard. I deserve every bit of freedom that I have earned. I would throw that can out RIGHT NOW and start the healing process RIGHT NOW. But that's just me.

You identify two life altering things in your post: the treatment of cancer and the process of quitting. I'm happy to see that cancer is what you fear the most. If you find that you don't have cancer, that this is all just a big scare not requiring aggressive treatment, is the process of quitting still worth it? Is it a must? Or will you fulfill your "hope" of being diagnosed with cancer later in life? Is putting up with the withdrawals now worth the potential health benefits later? After all, you could quit now and you could still find cancer later. We all could. Is it worth it? Are you worth it?

It's OK to fear the quit now, but you must fully commit yourself to this quit. You must not quit solely out of fear - you must see the positives as well. How will your life change for the better if you throw that can out RIGHT NOW? No safety can, no outs, no patches. Just you, your balls and your self-worth.

[jdferguson07]

I am glad I found this site. I am looking for any resource to help me with what I consider a long road of recovery.

I have recently been going to doctor visits and now have been advised to see an Ear Nose and Throat specialist for the fear that my 26 year habit has potentially caused me a life threatneing condition, we all know as cancer.

I had hoped to face this later in life than sooner, as I am 37, but I knew the day would come sometime. So now I have two life altering things going to be happening at once. The treatment of what I fear, cancer, and the recovery from a can a day habit since for the last 15 years, and dipping a total of 26 years.

I sit here in fear, fear for my life, fear of quitting as it has been my only outlet for nerves, stress. I have never smoked, I haven't drank since I was 24 years old, I chewed, that was my vice. I am now scared, of two different things, the treatment and the quitting.

Any advice will be very welcome. My last "dip" will be tomorrow, 5/23, probably around 8PM as I swore to myself, I will only finish this can. Now tomorrow, I am on a mission to find the fake stuff, and have nicotine patches to help that chemical craving. Is this enough? Or do I need other things, that some of you have tried that seems to have been successful?

Thanks,

Glenn

DUMP THE REST OF THAT CAN IMMEDIATELY!!!!

There is no other option. Your life depends on it. Whether you die tomorrow or 100 years from now, there is absolutely no point to dipping. Fuck putting an '8PM deadline' on it. DO IT NOW!!! Take control of your life and dump the rest of that fucking poison immediately!

Nicotine Patches are just delaying the inevitable. If you want to be successful quitting then you have to do it COLD TURKEY. No dip, no patches, no nic gum, no nothing. You just tough it out everyday and stay close to this site. Visit the quit groups and get into the August group once you decide that you aren't going to dip.

[gsize19]

I am glad I found this site. I am looking for any resource to help me with what I consider a long road of recovery.

I have recently been going to doctor visits and now have been advised to see an Ear Nose and Throat specialist for the fear that my 26 year habit has potentially caused me a life threatneing condition, we all know as cancer.

I had hoped to face this later in life than sooner, as I am 37, but I knew the day would come sometime. So now I have two life altering things going to be happening at once. The treatment of what I fear, cancer, and the recovery from a can a day habit since for the last 15 years, and dipping a total of 26 years.

I sit here in fear, fear for my life, fear of quitting as it has been my only outlet for nerves, stress. I have never smoked, I haven't drank since I was 24 years old, I chewed, that was my vice. I am now scared, of two different things, the treatment and the quitting.

Any advice will be very welcome. My last "dip" will be tomorrow, 5/23, probably around 8PM as I swore to myself, I will only finish this can. Now tomorrow, I am on a mission to find the fake stuff, and have nicotine patches to help that chemical craving. Is this enough? Or do I need other things, that some of you have tried that seems to have been successful?

Thanks,

Glenn