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Offline Mikey

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Re: Can anxiety disorder be caused by dipping
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 07:58:00 AM »
Congrats on quitting!!

Looking at your symptoms it can easily be cause by a serious sensitivity to nicotine:

Brain fog - Nicotine increases dopamine, effects the brain

Anxiety and excessive sweating - Nicotine increases epinephrine in the body resulting in a rise in blood pressure, heart rate, etc.

Insomnia and fatigue - Nicotine suppresses insulin. Effects the nervous system, acting as a sedative.
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Re: Can anxiety disorder be caused by dipping
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 04:22:00 AM »
I left a post back in May asking if dipping caused anxiety, excessive sweating and brain fog for anyone else. No one else seemed to have the same problems that I had from dipping but everyone just was saying just give it up anyways so I didn't die. But that didn't motivate because I couldn't go snowboarding like I used to. I lost interest in stuff I loved. I couldn't even hang out with my friends because of my anxiety. My brain fog or dispersonalization made me stupid to the point that I couldn't put together a sentence. So I didn't care if I died, I almost was pushing it so I wouldn't have to deal with this any longer. I had every test in the book ran and checked out healthy in every aspect. Was put on antidepressants for years. Nothing helped. I did finally quit just to see what happened anyways and it has been over 4 months and yes anxiety, brain fog, insomnia and fatigue can all be caused by dipping or at least it caused it for me. After 4 months quit, I am back to my old happy, anxiety free self. I had worsened anxiety the first 6 weeks and then it slowly started decreasing but after 10 weeks I noticed it was really going away and by week 18 I was back to my old self. NO MORE ANXIETY/PANIC ATTACKS, BRAIN FOG or excessive sweating issues for the first time in 7 years!!! I don't know why it affected me this way and not any others on this forum but it did. Their must be some chemical in the dip that I was allergic to or was extremely toxic to me. I didn't change anything in my diet or exercise but just quit dipping. If you are experiencing anxiety problems then give up the dip for 13 weeks at least to see if it makes a difference for you. What can it hurt.

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Re: Can anxiety disorder be caused by dipping
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2009, 02:23:00 PM »
Quote from: brandon28139
Thanks for all the replies. This is my 4th time tring to stopping dipping in the last 2 years and the thought of me quitting dipping getting rid of my anxiety was my biggest motivator. I guess I was really hoping someone would have said after 8 weeks or so dip free their anxiety went away, to give a little push. Oh well, this time quitting feels like it will be the time I will quit for good.
Maybe you should look at this way.....
If you have anxiety right now imagine how anxious you'll be if you get cancer. Quit dipping to save your life.

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Re: Can anxiety disorder be caused by dipping
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2009, 07:26:00 PM »
Thanks for all the replies. This is my 4th time tring to stopping dipping in the last 2 years and the thought of me quitting dipping getting rid of my anxiety was my biggest motivator. I guess I was really hoping someone would have said after 8 weeks or so dip free their anxiety went away, to give a little push. Oh well, this time quitting feels like it will be the time I will quit for good.

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Re: Can anxiety disorder be caused by dipping
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2009, 04:50:00 PM »
Brandon,

To put it plainly: I'm all sorts of fucked up, in terms of anxiety. And I can say that it isn't the dip. Rather, your anxiety kicked in right when it almost always does: early 20s.

But quit so you don't die, OK? Good.

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Re: Can anxiety disorder be caused by dipping
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2009, 06:55:00 AM »
Ask cigarette smokers why they light up and one answer you're likely to hear is that it relieves stress.1

But if that's the goal, it's not at all clear that cigarettes deliver the goods. Half (50%) of all smokers say they "frequently" experience stress in their daily lives, compared with just 35% of those who once smoked and have now quit and 31% of those who never smoked, according to a Pew Research Center Social  Demographic Trends survey conducted June 16-July16, 2008 among a nationally representative sample of 2,250 adults.

The finding raises as many questions as answers. Does it mean that the kinds of people who smoke are pre-disposed to stress? Does it mean that the stress relief smokers get while smoking doesn't last once they don't have a cigarette in hand? Or might it mean that the whole idea that smoking relieves stress is illusory?

Psychologists, physiologists and neuroscientists are better situated than public opinion researchers to supply answers. Nevertheless, the Pew Research survey sheds some new light on the subject by allowing for a range of comparisons among current smokers, former smokers and non-smokers on matters related to stress, happiness, health and life satisfaction.

The survey findings come at a time when the share of adults in the United States who smoke appears to have stabilized following a half-century decline. The most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control show that for the period of January through June 2008, the share of current smokers in the adult population was 20.8%, a bit higher than in 2007, when it was 19.7%.

Moreover, the one-in-five adults who smoke now have a new reason to feel stressed. On April 1, the U.S. government imposed its largest-ever tax increase on cigarettes; Uncle Sam's take on a pack of cigarettes shot up to $1.01 from 39 cents. (The Pew Research survey was taken well before these taxes went up.)

The Pew Research finding of a strong correlation between smoking and stress raises an obvious question: Is the stress a by-product of the smoking or of other unrelated factors?

One way to look for answers is by conducting a multivariate regression analysis.2 Ours finds that, even after controlling for the basic demographic characteristics of respondents -- including gender, age, race, education, income, marital status, and parental status -- current smokers are still more likely than non-smokers and quitters to report being frequently stressed.

However, our survey did not ask respondents about their psychological characteristics, so we were unable to weigh the impact of those traits on stress levels. Had we done so, it is possible we would have found that the independent effect of smoking on stress was weak or non-existent.
Happiness, Health, Life Satisfaction

The survey also finds that smokers are less happy and less healthy than both non-smokers and quitters.

About a quarter of current smokers say that they are very happy, compared with more than a third of quitters and almost four-in-ten non-smokers.

Consistent with what decades of public health research shows, smokers also report being in poorer health than non-smokers and quitters. Fewer than half of smokers (45%) say that their health is excellent or very good, compared with 63% of non-smokers and 55% of former smokers.

When asked whether they are satisfied with their family life, smokers are less likely than non-smokers and quitters to say that they are "very satisfied": About six-in-ten current smokers say they are very satisfied, compared with about seven-in-ten non-smokers and quitters. Smokers' satisfaction level with their job is also lower than that of non-smokers, and their satisfaction with their standard of living is lower than that of both quitters and non-smokers.
Who Smokes and Who Doesn't?

According to the Pew Research survey, more than half of adults (54%) have either never smoked or smoked fewer than 100 cigarettes in their lifetime. Another 22% are former smokers or "quitters," and 24% are currently smoking. (This 24% figure is slightly higher than the 2l% figure for 2008 reported by the CDC.3)

Women are more likely than men to be non-smokers (59% vs. 49%), the Pew survey finds. However, a quarter of men have quit smoking, compared with just 18% of women, which explains the nearly equal rates of current smoking within each gender.

Older adults are less likely than younger adults to be current smokers. Some 31% of 18-29 year olds are smokers, compared with just 11% of those ages 65 and older.

However, the younger age group also has a bigger share of people who never smoked. Six-in-ten adults under age 30 have never smoked or have not smoked more than 100 cigarettes in their lives. But among people who are ages 50 or older, only somewhere between four-in-ten and half never smoked.

Hispanics and blacks are both more likely than whites to be non-smokers. More than six-in-ten Hispanics and blacks have never smoked, compared with about half of whites.
High family income and high levels of education are associated with a low occurrence of smoking, and so is being married. Also, conservatives are more likely than liberals to be non-smokers (56% vs. 50%).

Region matters too. Compared with other regions of the country, the Midwest has the highest rate of smoking. Nearly three-in-ten (28%) Midwesterners are currently smoking, compared with only one in five Westerners.
Who Are the Quitters?

Nearly half of Americans have smoked at some time in their lives. But once a smoker, not always a smoker: Half of the men and 45% of women who have ever smoked have now quit.

Age is strongly related to whether a smoker continues or stops. At ages 18 to 29, about eight-in-ten smokers are still smoking. But the rate of current smoking goes down sharply as smokers grow older. By ages 65 and above, only about two-in-ten smokers are still smoking, which means that the rest have quit.

Whites are more likely to start smoking than are blacks or Hispanics. But among all smokers, whites are also more likely than blacks or Hispanics to quit. More than half of white smokers are no longer smoking, compared with about a quarter of black smokers and more than a third of Hispanics smokers.

Higher education and higher family income are related to a higher rate of quitting smoking. Married people also are more likely to quit than are those who are not married.

Liberals are more likely than conservatives to continue smoking once they become a smoker. About 63% of liberal smokers still smoke, compared with fewer than half of conservatives.

Among city dwellers, 57% of people who have ever smoked continue smoking, while only 48% of their suburban counterparts do so.

The findings about who is most likely to quit smoking are further confirmed by a multivariate regression analysis.4 Holding all other variables constant, men are more likely than women to quit smoking. Being older, married and a college graduate are also independently related to a higher probability of quitting cigarettes, as is being a conservative rather than a liberal.
More about Stress

Just as there are demographic differences in who smokes, there are demographic differences in who is more likely to feel stressed in their daily lives. In terms of age cohorts, the 30-to-49-year-olds are the most stressed: almost half report that they are "frequently" stressed. Nearly four-in-ten 50-to-64-year-olds say they are frequently stressed. Those over age 65 are the least stressed age group: only about one-in-five report being frequently stressed.

Apparently, money doesn't bring relief from stress, nor does higher education. Those with an annual family income of $100,000 or more are more likely to be frequently stressed (44%) than are adults with lower annual incomes. And compared with people with a high school education or less, college grads are less likely to report "rarely" or "never" experiencing stress.

The survey finds no linkage between marital status and daily stress. However, it does find a linkage between parenting status and daily stress. More than four-in-ten parents who have children under age 18 say they frequently experience stress in their daily life, compared with about one third of those who have no children or who only have adult children.

Men and women are equally likely to say they are frequently stressed. However, the share of women who say they never or rarely experience stress (22%) is smaller than the share of men who say the same thing (31%). Whites are more likely to report being frequently stressed than are blacks or Hispanics.

Finally, people's ideology (but not their party ID) is linked to stress. Liberals are more likely than conservatives or moderates to report being frequently stressed in daily life.
Background: Smoking in America

According to Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), cigarette smoking has decreased substantially since the 1960s. However, the rate of current smoking among adults has stabilized since 2004, averaging about 20%-21%. The most recent CDC data show that for the period of January through June 2008, the percentage of current smokers is 20.8, a bit higher than in 2007, when 19.7% of adults smoked.

While the rate of current smoking is lower among women than men, this gender gap has narrowed over time. In 1965, 34% of adult women smoked, compared with 52% of adult men. This gap gradually narrowed until reaching about 5% in the mid-1980s; it has remained in that range ever since. It's not that women are smoking more: rates of smoking for both men and women have declined since the 1960s. The narrowing gender gap since 1965 is mainly due to the fact that smoking has declined at a faster rate among men than among women.
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Re: Can anxiety disorder be caused by dipping
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2009, 06:48:00 AM »
I would guess the two go hand in hand, that is if you give a shit about living,,,,because every time you dip or smoke, you're taking time off your life. Don't over think it. Quit using nicotine.
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Re: Can anxiety disorder be caused by dipping
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 04:22:00 AM »
It sounds like my life. I have been coping with anxiety for ever it seems, but I cannot say it was due to the dip. I have only been quit for 7 days, so I am holding off on making any claims about how different i feel "now". I can say that even with the physical withdrawal I have been going through, I have not has any panic attacks - which for me is almost an every day occurrence. I started dipping at 18, but was a smoker since 14 (now 33yrs old) and although I dont think I was as anxious as a kid, who knows. I didn't have the perspective back then. So jury is out for me.

Interesting side note - I kicked dairy for a couple of months last year, I mean hardcore, no milk derived ingredients or proteins in anything I ate - and I felt dramatically better - like the clouds had lifted. If your symptoms don't get better, talk with your doctor, and maybe investigate other potential culprits as well: environmental triggers, food, medication.

Have you checked over this site? This has been for me a huge help in getting through this past week without dipping. You might want to stick around, join a quit group, and get to know some of the other guys. It's a good thing going on here...

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Can anxiety disorder be caused by dipping
« on: May 09, 2009, 02:57:00 AM »
I started dipping when I was 18. I used to be a very outgoing, calm, talkative person. I could get up in front of a croud of people and talk without a bit of nervousness. Around the age of 20, I developed an anxiety disorder where I became nervous around others and had a constant foggyheaded feeling. I have been looking all over for a link between dipping and anxiety and can't find one. I was wondering if anyone else developed anxiety trouble and/or a constant foggy feeling after a few years of dipping. I have quit and am now at the three week mark. I'm getting palpations and shortness of breath at night, but I am struggling through. My anxiety does seem to have lessened for the most part but now I have bad days where I am really nervous with no reason. Just wondering if dipping caused anxiety for anyone and if it went away when they quit.