Howdy - here I go ...

[traumagnet]

I really do hate the drama of this site.Ã,  You hear people talk about it's your quit, ever quit is different and shit like that but then when someone feels they are ready to face the world and not post every day they all go ape shit.Ã,  Hey just because some one leaves or takes a break or just slows down their posting doesn't mean they will fail.Ã,  I feel I need to stay here a while but that doesn't mean I will stay here forever.Ã,  I may be her a year or five or 10 or I may just opt out next week.Ã,  It is my quit and I feel that I should stay right now and keep supporting others and being supported by others.Ã,  It's my quit so stay the fuck out of it.Ã,  I will be proud to post 200 days and post 300 days and post 365 days.Ã,  And when I feel I don't need to post daily I will slow down.Ã,  When I feel somewhere down the road I don't need to post at all any more I won't.Ã,  One thing I have learned here over the last 191 day is don't tell anyone your intensions ... OH MY GOD ... then the losers come out of the closest and start hating on you.Ã,  Hey if you are one of those who need this site for the rest of your life more power to you but stop hating on those who move on with their lives.Ã,  I am stay quit and stay here ... for now.Ã,  Thank you my friends and my brothers and thank you to all you others who may be hating right now.Ã,  You are all part of my quit and I will always be thankful for that.Ã,  But to the haters of my brothersÃ,  'Finger'

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Guess I either missed the drama you are talking about or we have very different definitions of hate...
One of the cornerstones of this site is peer accountability. When someone who has been so active on the board posts addict babble, it should get called out. Everyone here has a different style (and some I'm not fond of), but in my book they are all trying to do the same thing. Hold the quitter accountable.
At least for me the issue isn't about leaving the site, its about the addict babble excuses as to why. Good on you for defending your brother, but don't be blinded by loyalty and allow addict behaviors and words to be acceptable.

I believe that the majority of the messages being conveyed yesterday were just that calling him out on the verbiage he was using and asking if he was ok. Most of the talk yesterday was corrective you can't make blanket statements and not expect to have your ass bit especially when stating that you take your quit more seriously than others. That will get fur raised. Also you don't know what may or may not have happened in the background. There were many people here that recognized the behavior and pointed out that he is hurting fogged out or in a bad funk. You may ask LHG how many texts she received yesterday in reference to her brother. Also like I stated yesterday this site is a flick of the switch and its gone no need for swan songs or drama. I do agree its your quit but history has repeated time and time again when brothers/sisters drift from the site they are throating the bitch as soon as they leave the door open. I hate bringing LHG up again but did you read her post in her brothers thread. She said she saw a huge amount of support and not a dog pile.

I know it perspective and perspective is each one of our realities but I don't think it was terrible. If the thread is really examined there are tons of lessons be taught for free just have to read it objectively.

[Derk40]

Call me self centered, call me an asshole, call me anything but late to supper and I'm gonna be almost alright with that as long as I stay quit. Fuck a bunch of weak willed and weak minded dumbasses who think they can lick the nic bitch on their own. I tried that a lot of times and it didn't work. So call me a man in need of a crutch ... that's damn right and that crutch is KTC and posting role.

Way to go my brothers. Keep the quit strong, no caves!

Where did this Bearhawk guy go? This guy makes sense to me. Recent posts... Not so much.

[T-Cell]

I really do hate the drama of this site. You hear people talk about it's your quit, ever quit is different and shit like that but then when someone feels they are ready to face the world and not post every day they all go ape shit. Hey just because some one leaves or takes a break or just slows down their posting doesn't mean they will fail. I feel I need to stay here a while but that doesn't mean I will stay here forever. I may be her a year or five or 10 or I may just opt out next week. It is my quit and I feel that I should stay right now and keep supporting others and being supported by others. It's my quit so stay the fuck out of it. I will be proud to post 200 days and post 300 days and post 365 days. And when I feel I don't need to post daily I will slow down. When I feel somewhere down the road I don't need to post at all any more I won't. One thing I have learned here over the last 191 day is don't tell anyone your intensions ... OH MY GOD ... then the losers come out of the closest and start hating on you. Hey if you are one of those who need this site for the rest of your life more power to you but stop hating on those who move on with their lives. I am stay quit and stay here ... for now. Thank you my friends and my brothers and thank you to all you others who may be hating right now. You are all part of my quit and I will always be thankful for that. But to the haters of my brothers 'Finger'

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Guess I either missed the drama you are talking about or we have very different definitions of hate...
One of the cornerstones of this site is peer accountability. When someone who has been so active on the board posts addict babble, it should get called out. Everyone here has a different style (and some I'm not fond of), but in my book they are all trying to do the same thing. Hold the quitter accountable.
At least for me the issue isn't about leaving the site, its about the addict babble excuses as to why. Good on you for defending your brother, but don't be blinded by loyalty and allow addict behaviors and words to be acceptable.

[BearHawk]

I really do hate the drama of this site. You hear people talk about it's your quit, ever quit is different and shit like that but then when someone feels they are ready to face the world and not post every day they all go ape shit. Hey just because some one leaves or takes a break or just slows down their posting doesn't mean they will fail. I feel I need to stay here a while but that doesn't mean I will stay here forever. I may be her a year or five or 10 or I may just opt out next week. It is my quit and I feel that I should stay right now and keep supporting others and being supported by others. It's my quit so stay the fuck out of it. I will be proud to post 200 days and post 300 days and post 365 days. And when I feel I don't need to post daily I will slow down. When I feel somewhere down the road I don't need to post at all any more I won't. One thing I have learned here over the last 191 day is don't tell anyone your intensions ... OH MY GOD ... then the losers come out of the closest and start hating on you. Hey if you are one of those who need this site for the rest of your life more power to you but stop hating on those who move on with their lives. I am stay quit and stay here ... for now. Thank you my friends and my brothers and thank you to all you others who may be hating right now. You are all part of my quit and I will always be thankful for that. But to the haters of my brothers 'Finger'

[slug.go]

As my daughter would says HOLY WOW ... 6 months nicotine free; who would have thought that hanging out with a bunch of nut cases would have gotten me to be nic free for 6 months. Let me tell you back at day 1 I wouldn't have thought it possible to honestly be quit this long and now I have a whole new outlook and I know for certain as long as I keep hanging here with all you mad nut jobs I'm going to remain nic free.

Thank you all for hangin' with me and letting me help y'all along too.

Hang Loose bros ... oh and sis' too.

I'll have some of what he is having.

[rdad]

As my daughter would says HOLY WOW ... 6 months nicotine free; who would have thought that hanging out with a bunch of nut cases would have gotten me to be nic free for 6 months.Ã,  Let me tell you back at day 1 I wouldn't have thought it possible to honestly be quit this long and now I have a whole new outlook and I know for certain as long as I keep hanging here with all you mad nut jobs I'm going to remain nic free.Ã, 

Thank you all for hangin' with me and letting me help y'all along too.Ã, 

Hang Loose bros ... oh and sis' too.

Holy Wow, Holy Cow, and Holy S%*T ! That is some nice quitting BearHawk. Glad you are stickin' around.

[BearHawk]

As my daughter would says HOLY WOW ... 6 months nicotine free; who would have thought that hanging out with a bunch of nut cases would have gotten me to be nic free for 6 months. Let me tell you back at day 1 I wouldn't have thought it possible to honestly be quit this long and now I have a whole new outlook and I know for certain as long as I keep hanging here with all you mad nut jobs I'm going to remain nic free.

Thank you all for hangin' with me and letting me help y'all along too.

Hang Loose bros ... oh and sis' too.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

So last weekend I went out and did my favorite redneck pass time ... I went to MONSTER JAM. Now I come from Texas as you all know but I now live in Chula Vista CA south of San Diego. The event is held in the football stadium and you would be surprised at how many rednecks there are here in SOCAL. We had that stadium near full.

This is the first time since I quit that I was out there with all those rowdy people without a dip. You know what? It didn't bother me at all to not spit gobs of tobacco spit on the ground under my seat or have a spit bottle. I completely enjoyed the night and didn't crave a dip at all.

I know I'm not cured of my addiction but there is one thing I am ... I am quit. I am not a quitter ... I am quit. I'll be here posting forever and I will always know I am an addict but after 162 days I can say for certain I am QLF  NAFAR and feel confident that with the support of my brothers I will never dip again.

At the start I was keeping a quit log and writing in it a lot. I haven't even thought about it since new years. The nic bitch has been kicked to the curb and I don't even think of tobacco at all now. I come here and post and I'm here if anyone needs my support. I'm not craving at all any more and I laughed about my last dip dream. Thanks KTC, Thanks Brothers and Sisters.

I'm liking the way you sound. The future is bright.

[BearHawk]

So last weekend I went out and did my favorite redneck pass time ... I went to MONSTER JAM. Now I come from Texas as you all know but I now live in Chula Vista CA south of San Diego. The event is held in the football stadium and you would be surprised at how many rednecks there are here in SOCAL. We had that stadium near full.

This is the first time since I quit that I was out there with all those rowdy people without a dip. You know what? It didn't bother me at all to not spit gobs of tobacco spit on the ground under my seat or have a spit bottle. I completely enjoyed the night and didn't crave a dip at all.

I know I'm not cured of my addiction but there is one thing I am ... I am quit. I am not a quitter ... I am quit. I'll be here posting forever and I will always know I am an addict but after 162 days I can say for certain I am QLF  NAFAR and feel confident that with the support of my brothers I will never dip again.

At the start I was keeping a quit log and writing in it a lot. I haven't even thought about it since new years. The nic bitch has been kicked to the curb and I don't even think of tobacco at all now. I come here and post and I'm here if anyone needs my support. I'm not craving at all any more and I laughed about my last dip dream. Thanks KTC, Thanks Brothers and Sisters.

[dabean22]

This is the first NIC free New YEARS I can recall in forever. 140 days and still counting on my way up to the second floor. I never was one to make resolutions so I didn't have to add to the other lies by saying I was going to quit. But now that I am really quit I will make a resolution. I resolve the I will stay quit for 2014 and make it to day 505 for the next new year. I also resolve to be more active in helping other get quit and stay quit. HAPPY NEW YEAR to all my crazy whacked out nuts and side ways friends here at KTC.

Right back at'chya brother. I've been a bit busy with conducting duties but its nice to catch up with some of the intros here. Your words have been powerful and incitefull. I quit with you repeatedly ODAAT.

[BearHawk]

This is the first NIC free New YEARS I can recall in forever. 140 days and still counting on my way up to the second floor. I never was one to make resolutions so I didn't have to add to the other lies by saying I was going to quit. But now that I am really quit I will make a resolution. I resolve the I will stay quit for 2014 and make it to day 505 for the next new year. I also resolve to be more active in helping other get quit and stay quit. HAPPY NEW YEAR to all my crazy whacked out nuts and side ways friends here at KTC.

[SirDerek]

me as well.Ã,  If I am physically able, I will post roll, I will be quit.Ã,  If I am not physically able I will ask someone politely to post for me and I will be quit.Ã,  If I am not mentally able, well then I don't think it really matters.Ã,  As long as I can be a self centered, roll-posting asshole, I will be.Ã,  Thanks to KTC and all you fine people before me that keeps me quit.Ã, 

Mogul

Call me self centered, call me an asshole, call me anything but late to supper and I'm gonna be almost alright with that as long as I stay quit. Fuck a bunch of weak willed and weak minded dumbasses who think they can lick the nic bitch on their own. I tried that a lot of times and it didn't work. So call me a man in need of a crutch ... that's damn right and that crutch is KTC and posting role.

Way to go my brothers. Keep the quit strong, no caves!

Hey, not a crutch man. you just realized that you needed something additional to help, and that help came in the form of us whacked out personnel. 'Crazy'

So it is very wise that you came to the right decision....and never forget it....or never discount it....

I stand beside you today, so lets continue to quit.

[BearHawk]

me as well. If I am physically able, I will post roll, I will be quit. If I am not physically able I will ask someone politely to post for me and I will be quit. If I am not mentally able, well then I don't think it really matters. As long as I can be a self centered, roll-posting asshole, I will be. Thanks to KTC and all you fine people before me that keeps me quit.

Mogul

Call me self centered, call me an asshole, call me anything but late to supper and I'm gonna be almost alright with that as long as I stay quit. Fuck a bunch of weak willed and weak minded dumbasses who think they can lick the nic bitch on their own. I tried that a lot of times and it didn't work. So call me a man in need of a crutch ... that's damn right and that crutch is KTC and posting role.

Way to go my brothers. Keep the quit strong, no caves!

[Mogul]

me as well. If I am physically able, I will post roll, I will be quit. If I am not physically able I will ask someone politely to post for me and I will be quit. If I am not mentally able, well then I don't think it really matters. As long as I can be a self centered, roll-posting asshole, I will be. Thanks to KTC and all you fine people before me that keeps me quit.

Mogul

[RAZD611]

Oh wow this last Friday night I had the most intense dip dream ever.Ã,  It felt so real that during the dream I felt so bad for dipping that I was wondering what I was going to say to all my brothers and sisters out about my cave.Ã,  However when I woke up I realized it was all a dream but it did shake me a little that I went to the bathroom and checked my teeth and gums to be sure.Ã,  I also immediately texted my bro DaBean and let him know I was still quit NAFAR!.Ã,  This is as far as I have ever been quit in a whole lot of years and I am staying strong but WOW that ol' Nic Witch sure snuck up into my dreams the other night.Ã,  Thanks bros for your support and this does strengthen my quit and my resolve to stay quit.Ã,  If the Nic Witch can't get to me in the real world and I can stay strong in the dream would I know I'm doing something right.

I figured it out ... when I'm bone ass tired the dip dreams come. Last night after working my ass off decorating my house for Christmas (After watching my Raiders fall once again) I went to be and fell asleep hard and sure enough I got a dip dream. It didn't bug me this time at all. I knew it was a dream the entire time. Funny how the brain works. I just laughed at myself and had a beer. I am really starting to love this being quit ... knowing I have to keep my promise daily and staying accountable is the best Christmas present I have given myself. ODAAT NAFAR keep me strong. Hangin' in with my KTC Bros and sis's

Well my hard work decorating the house paid off. The Kolar family won first place in our neighborhood decorating contest. So it was well worth the dip dream. Merry Christmas to you all.

Well having to work Christmas eve and Christmas with on one else around gave me lots of time to think. We all know that when BearHawk thinks it isn't always a good thing. So well I was thinking about how I'm not such a Asshole now that I've quit nicotine and I was wondering why that was. So it occurred to me that when you are so hooked on nic you spend over half your time on the verge of withdrawal and so you spend over half your time being an asshole. Think about it ... if you were like me and had a dip in your mouth all day long you were either thinking of your next fresh dip; then your can was running low so you were thinking about getting that next can and shit if you ran out before you got that can, heave help the people standing in the way. Then only time you are truly feeling good is when you opened that fresh can and took that fresh dip, everything else was about getting to the next one.

So at any rate this Christmas was awesome not having tobacco juice running down my chin as we opened our gifts. The only time I thought about snuff was when I was posting that I wouldn't use. I'm even going through the days without chewing gum at all or with just one or two sticks. I have never felt more quit. That is not to say that I have a thought that I am cured. Oh hell no. I know that I will always be a drooling snuff fiend. These are the times I know I need to be here the most.

I was reading here the other day and this ass wipe was saying that we who post daily are self-centered ass holes and I guess in a way he is right. I am centered on my quit and coming here is all about me staying quit so in a way in is all about me. But then of course the shit bag was all wrong too. I stay here and stay quit to encourage others to do the same and be just like me and the thousands of others who stay quit for life.

Reading the upcoming events and I see brothers who have been quit for 8 years and I think because of them I am going to stay here that long and I am going to stay here so other newbies can see how it goes, step by step, me at 134 days and the next guy at 200 and there is a sister at one year and then there are bothers at 1000 days and so on. Man this place amazes me and I am all for the power of quit.

I'll be more than happy to be called a self centered asshole for posting roll every day and expecting everyone else to do so as well.

See you at roll in the morning.