I need to quit, but don't want to

[Parputt]

Personally, I don't give two shits about 99.9% of you.

Well, there is the nail in the coffin. You don't fucking get it smart ass. We ARE all in this together, that is what makes it work.

I was just about to jump in your corner until I got to that line. Have a good life.

[_oz]

Answer me these two simple questions. Since you just want to quit to save money, what will you do if you get a big raise or win the lottery? Will you go back to dipping since you have money?

If your answer is "yes, I will go back to dipping", I can promise you that you are not serious and will not make it. You will go to drastic lengths in other areas just to feed your addiction.

If I get money - I won't go back. It was something I enjoyed and something that I have known for a while I needed to stop. Money was the push, but it was something that I have actually wanted to do in the past year or so.



I understand and see where a lot of you are coming from - but go back to when you were at day 1 or a few days before. If you came to a site where the people are there to help you, and you get shit spewed at you, what does that say? There's not much support. I'm sure there are those that have come and gone, there always will. If you continue to shit on people when they get here - why would they change? They don't want to end the way you are coming across. Hell, Joe Blow stops in, posts he wants to quit, and you treat him like he's a failure -- guess what.... he's gonna fail because he doesn't want to be a dick like some of you.


Personally, I don't give two shits about 99.9% of you. I will never meet you, never talk to you, have no interaction with you. But for the other .1%, it will be a hard time, but we will get through it together. Ya, it's gonna be difficult. Ya, it's gonna be painful - especially at the poker games each month where 75% of the guys dip (but I won't) - but roll call will have my name on it - and each day will have 1 extra number. You don't know me, so feel free to judge me. I'm just gonna go through each day - 1 at a time - and stay strong.

[magnum9]

Its a choice, and you have made it clear you don't WANT to make that choice. By that statment alone you have already failed before you even start. Get your mind right and the addiction will follow.

Skoal Monster

Really? Because it's an addiction and I admitted it --- I have failed? Whatever. I'm on day 1 --- I'm a quitter.

Oz,

If you make it to day 30 or so, you will then know what it is to be quit. Your attitude will completely change and you will look back at your posts here and get embarrassed by them. It does happen to a lot of folks who had the same mentality as you.

Notice I said "If" you make it to day 30 or so... with many of the people posting their introductions I would say "when" you make it to day 30 or so.

Some quitters have the right attitude and you know they will succeed from the start. Some, like yourself, sound completely uncommitted.


Answer me these two simple questions. Since you just want to quit to save money, what will you do if you get a big raise or win the lottery? Will you go back to dipping since you have money?

If your answer is "yes, I will go back to dipping", I can promise you that you are not serious and will not make it. You will go to drastic lengths in other areas just to feed your addiction.

[The Lone Dipper]

Its a choice, and you have made it clear you don't WANT to make that choice. By that statment alone you have already failed before you even start. Get your mind right and the addiction will follow.

Skoal Monster

Really? Because it's an addiction and I admitted it --- I have failed? Whatever. I'm on day 1 --- I'm a quitter.

Welcome aboard this crazy fuckin train of ours. We are here to help, just keep your word and we will keep ours...that simple!

[Parputt]

Its a choice, and you have made it clear you don't WANT to make that choice. By that statment alone you have already failed before you even start. Get your mind right and the addiction will follow.

Skoal Monster

Really? Because it's an addiction and I admitted it --- I have failed? Whatever. I'm on day 1 --- I'm a quitter.

Look man, you have to understand something here. We have seen "you" come and go. You- the guy that is on the fence about quitting- is a constant source of amusement and anger for those of us that are 1000% committed to our quit.

Maybe you did not fully express your commitment in your first post, maybe you will be the best quitter to ever log into this site, but until then you are being judged by your first post. Keep in mind that this is the internet so we can not see your facial expression etc. when we read your words.

Quitting dip is not something to be taken lightly. I went through hell my first three days and someone like you comes in and basically spits on my quit it pisses me the fuck off. I went through hell to show you the fucking way.

As the monster said, this is not a touchy feely place. This place is about quitting an addiction that most of us have had for 20-30 years. If you do not go into it with everything you have you WILL FAIL!

So, you wanna quit, prove us wrong. You wanna try to change us and how we deal with our quits, ain't gonna happen.

[_oz]

Its a choice, and you have made it clear you don't WANT to make that choice. By that statment alone you have already failed before you even start. Get your mind right and the addiction will follow.

Skoal Monster

Really? Because it's an addiction and I admitted it --- I have failed? Whatever. I'm on day 1 --- I'm a quitter.

[Skoal Monster]

Goo luck..........I HOPE your successful........Give it a good TRY oz !!

Frankly if a guy caves he can go kill himself somewhere besides this board. Caves fuck with all of us and are not welcome here. This IS a support group, but it is support for quitters, not for half assed wanna be attempts, and certainly not for cavers. If you want a hug after you fall off the wagon your in the wrong place.

I really do wish you succeed Oz ,but the simple fact is that just wanting to be quit isnt going to do it. You have to decide that your going to be quit.

Its a choice, and you have made it clear you don't WANT to make that choice. By that statment alone you have already failed before you even start. Get your mind right and the addiction will follow.Skoal Monster

[Parputt]

Welcome to the team, (pat on the back, slap on the ass, high 5's all around). Good now everyone feel all warm and fuzzy inside? Great, now let's get to quittin'!!!!!!

[per034]

You know Oz, on Day One I thought the same EXACT thing you did. I thought some people here think they've earned the right to be complete assholes because they've been here for years. That thier quit was the toughest and all us newbies need to grow a pair and man up.

I quit 18 days ago. Reading all the bullshit people wrote on this site made me think there were too many pricks to keep me sticking around. But then I kept reading and found the voices that mattered to ME.

You gotta realize, there are over 8,000 members on this site. There are going to be people who are complete douchebags. And usually the ones who are the douchebags are the loudest. But sometimes those douchebags can provide those one or two words that make you say "yep, today's another day of quit." The words of wisdom that will make you stick with the quit are not the same words of wisdom that will work for someone else, and vice versa. That's why they make Chocalate and vanilla.

Today's going to be tough - don't kid yourself. And tomorrow's going to be MUCH tougher. The best thing I learned in my quit - and I've been dipping since I was 12 - is that you can never think about quitting "forever." Quit for today. Tomorrow will take care of itself.

I know this post won't be a popular post. I know some of the vets will think I'm a douchebag. But I also know for a FACT that some people who caved refuse to come back becuase of the vitriol they would receive by posting a new "Day 1." And that's pretty fucking sad, if you ask me. This isn't a fraternity where new people should be getting hazed. This is - like it or not - a support group.

I don't care what your reason is. Out of Money? Kids? Vishnu told you to quit? Whatever - you're here to quit. Granted, "want to quit" will be infinitely more successful than "have to quit" - but a quit is a quit. Let me know if you need anything.

Go post roll.

Now I'll stop being a dick (for today, anyway)

[bigbamadan]

Great choice Oz....quitting today is 1000x better than "planning to quit tomorrow." Read 1-4 below and then head on over to August and post roll.

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[BTM99]

You know, I was going to post a reply last night after reading the first few responses - but glad I waited. If this were a suicide hot line, I would have killed myself from the first 6 or so responses. I was thinking those guys were on days 1-3 with the great responses of support (sarcasm).

I read the "come back when you serious" bullshit replies, and the "we are here because we chose to" and thought how hypocritical after reading some of the introductions. There are guys on here who 'HAD TO' because the dentist informed them they had no choice. There are guys on here who were going to lose their spouse / girlfriend. Not all guys on here 'chose to quit, just to quit' --- so please quit trying to push that shit.

After reading the responses from yesterday, I was not going to come back. Ya, who cares? I'm just another person that you will never meet, so who gives a crap. There are a few of you who really should not be posting on here, as your words are not doing what this site is designed for. Think about why you are here, and why others come here -- it's the same thing. If people post in the introduction section (like I did), it's for a reason. It's the same reason everyone else posted in it --- to QUIT. Ya, it might be for different reasons, but in the end it's the same. Do you really think I (or anyone else) would post in there that didn't realize they had an addiction --- and needed to quit? I could have lied and said I woke up and realized I needed to quit for my daughter and my wife, but I have 1 can left --- what to do, what to do? No! I don't play games and I will be honest about my life no matter what the outcome!



I am glad I waited til this morning to do anything about posting in here --- those that took the under win.

To the past few guys who "get it" --- THANKS! I just threw my can and spitter away (yes - 3/4 of a can). I needed the encouragement, the words of wisdom, the right thing to see --- and you guys showed me what I needed to do.

So --- as of 15 minutes ago on Friday the 13th 2011 --- I am a quitter.



Now to the rest of you at the beginning - Seriously? Think about what you could have said that would have done a better job at helping me quit than what you did say. You want to help people? Then help people!

Has Grumpy assumed a new identity? A lot of similarities here (lack of accountability, shifting the blame from onesself). However, the sentence structure and grammar used here throws that theory out the window.

[jaygib]

I used to think that some of the people on this forum were a-holes. Then I decided that most of the people on this forum were a-holes. Then I figured that most of the other folks on this site probably think I'm an a-hole. But we all want to see ourselves and others quit using forever so it does have a place.

Great choice oz. Let me know if I can help in any way. Jason

[_oz]

You know, I was going to post a reply last night after reading the first few responses - but glad I waited. If this were a suicide hot line, I would have killed myself from the first 6 or so responses. I was thinking those guys were on days 1-3 with the great responses of support (sarcasm).

I read the "come back when you serious" bullshit replies, and the "we are here because we chose to" and thought how hypocritical after reading some of the introductions. There are guys on here who 'HAD TO' because the dentist informed them they had no choice. There are guys on here who were going to lose their spouse / girlfriend. Not all guys on here 'chose to quit, just to quit' --- so please quit trying to push that shit.

After reading the responses from yesterday, I was not going to come back. Ya, who cares? I'm just another person that you will never meet, so who gives a crap. There are a few of you who really should not be posting on here, as your words are not doing what this site is designed for. Think about why you are here, and why others come here -- it's the same thing. If people post in the introduction section (like I did), it's for a reason. It's the same reason everyone else posted in it --- to QUIT. Ya, it might be for different reasons, but in the end it's the same. Do you really think I (or anyone else) would post in there that didn't realize they had an addiction --- and needed to quit? I could have lied and said I woke up and realized I needed to quit for my daughter and my wife, but I have 1 can left --- what to do, what to do? No! I don't play games and I will be honest about my life no matter what the outcome!



I am glad I waited til this morning to do anything about posting in here --- those that took the under win.

To the past few guys who "get it" --- THANKS! I just threw my can and spitter away (yes - 3/4 of a can). I needed the encouragement, the words of wisdom, the right thing to see --- and you guys showed me what I needed to do.

So --- as of 15 minutes ago on Friday the 13th 2011 --- I am a quitter.



Now to the rest of you at the beginning - Seriously? Think about what you could have said that would have done a better job at helping me quit than what you did say. You want to help people? Then help people!

[jaygib]

A buddy of mine gave me this site - and I am glad he did. My wife and I went through our budget this past weekend, and my habit (and her drinking hot chocolates) have been putting us over our income each month. We have decided we both NEED to stop.

But, I don't want to!

I read the top 100 reasons - and have to say there are about 30 to 35 that hit home. Some are actually kind of funny when you think about how true they are; "Dumping your spit cup out of your car as you are driving and having the spit sauce blow back up on your car" -- so true!

So here I am, hopefully starting something new ==== saving money and bettering my life. I know it will be hard, but I quit smoking a few years ago cold turkey and it wasn't too bad (ya - I had a dip for the nicotine fix 'Crazy' ).

The bad thing, as #20 states "Digging for change all over the house and car to have enough money to buy a can", this just happened at work (change jar, truck and desk drawers). I bought one last can. I was having fits knowing my last would be my last - and I found all my loose change to get the very very very last (I have no more loose change).

So....... I will be here on Saturday or Sunday to begin my new life. You ask why wait and not stop now - because it's no better time than the present time! Well, as I mentioned above - I don't want to stop! My wife doesn't mind - in fact she use to buy my rolls for me (she hated it - but it was cheaper across the state line by 10 bucks per roll). I think it's a good move to introduce myself and say I will be quitting --- and then have to honor that (since I am a man of my word).

I will see you all soon!

I hear you. Quitting ain't easy. It takes commitment and courage. It's hard...work!

You know who else doesn't want you to quit, your nicotine pushers--the gas station, the wholesaler, the giant tobacco firm that hopes you don't die early so they can get your money for another 20 or 30 years. All those folks are counting on you too keep paying bills for them for many years to come. Don't quit and don't die on them.

Sometimes I don't want to quit either. Like I could easily throw a dip in now and trade in 115 days of freedome. But then I remember that the next dip kills me. That's the one that'll give me cancer. That is the time nicotine will sink her talons of death in me for good and painfully bleed out my last days on this earth.

I didn't love dip 100% of the time as a user and I don't hate it 100% of the time as a quit addict. I chose not to use today, a year ago I chose to use. Rational thoughts (for better or worse) dictated my choice in both cases and I quit fully knowing that my quit could never be based just on want alone. Sometimes my emotion fails me and if it fails me today I am confident I've given my fellow quitters my word that I am chosing not to use today regardless of my wants. Same for every other man and woman here.

Hope you come back ready to quit regardless of your wants at the moment. Maybe it'll be this weekend, maybe next weekend, maybe a year from now. We'll still be here as quitters willing to walk the quit path with you.

[Radman]

There are a lot of us here that want to support you, but you have made it damn hard with this attitude. This battle is not about "want to" or "don't want to". It's about "have to", because we all have to quit; our lives depend on it. Can you really go look at the cancer pics and not want to quit? I wanted to for years, but failed until I found this site. It is tough, and you are setting yourself (and therefore, everyone trying to help you) up for failure before you even start. Make the decision, face the demon head-on, toss that can, and make us a promise. We're waiting.