Hi All

[brettlees]

If you want it, you'll get it. If you don't, you won't. It's up to you- who wins, your addiction or you?

It will be hard. It's gonna suck. Really bad at times. And you can get through it. And then it will start to back off. But you have to earn your freedom.

I didn't start at age 4, but I did by 5th grade. That was 1975. I gutted it. I've been clean since joining this site, and following support, game plan, and advice I got here made all the difference. It sucked. Bad! Then it didn't suck so much. It still sucks sometimes, then it goes away. I am doing this, and you can too!

Join me in this freedom! I loved the holidays without being a slave to getting my fix. You can have that too- it will require you to give it all you have at times, and to let others help you when its too hard. The men and women here will do that for you but you have to hold up your end of it all.

[Steakbomb18]

HOF'er srans has hit the nail on the head with his last question, "how bad do you want it." If you cave in to the crave, then I would say that I guess you didn't want it bad enough. These are some words I have been living by for the past 2 months and I read it first from a bodybuilder's blog.

He wrote, "People ask me, how do you find time to work out and everyday when you have a full-time job, a wife, and 2 kids? I replied that I want it that bad. When people tell me that they can't fit it in due to these huge life demands, I simply tell them that they don't want it bad enough. If you want it bad enough, you'll figure out how to make it happen.

I'm no bodybuilder by any means, and this guy is someone whom I know personally and was reading his blog. Ever since I read that entry, I realized it was a way of life. Here at KTC, we take it one day at a time (ODAAT) and every day you need to want to quit so badly, that you'll do anything and everything to quit and stay quit. Once you get past that critical 72 hour mark, it won't take every bit of will power to stay quit, but every day you will need to want it bad enough in order to stay quit. I stay quit because I want it bad enough. Srans stays quit because he wants it bad enough. Please afford yourself the pleasure of saying, I wanted it bad enough and I'm quit.

[srans]

I've never met anyone with quite the same habit as me.

1000,s have used this site to quit. Everyone that has given advice below and myself included. You have now met several with the same ADDICTION as you. There is nothing special about you on this site. If I can do it you can. I don't care if your mother gave you your first bottle with the poison included,,, You can do it!

I was weak and couldn't manage.

This ^^^ will keep you failing. Quitting comes from deep brother. Reach deep and take your life back. Stop listening to your addicted brain.

On top of it all, my girlfriend told me she'd leave me if I chewed anymore

Are you quitting for yourself or your girlfriend? If your quitting for her it won't work.

I'm tempted to not take any with me, where I'll be forced to quit but it is a little scary to me.

Are you quitting or not? This tells me your still dangling your feet in the quit pool. Jump the hell in man! All the way. NO,,, your not going to purchase any more of the poison,, not now , not ever. Not for a trip to japan, porto rico, germany, italy,, no effin where. Wake up bro,, HOW BAD DO YOU WANT IT!?!?

[Phil16]

I gutted Copenhagen for 23 years. Today is my 367th day of nicotine freedom. It can be done. You are an addict. Everything you wrote below is what is called addict talk. It's the drug doing your thinking for you. Nicotine has had you by the short hairs for 37 years, and you are correct it won't be easy. Here is the reality, in 72 hours all the nicotine will be out of your body, you can find support and tools here that will help. Here is another reality, if you keep listening to your addict brain, you'll keep doing what you've always done. One day there will be a visit to the dentist or doctor or a discovery you make on your own...it's called cancer. Check out the pictures on this site, I personally know a man who died in April 2013 of esophageal cancer. The guy was an absolute warrior, but cancer won. Nicotine controls you, it dictates how you relate to people and how you deal with anger. The biggest lie you are telling yourself is that nicotine helps you cope. Nicotine doesn't help you, never has. Nicotine is killing you.

Cool...I encourage you to quit today. Let us help. Check your inbox(1).

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

Didn't want to quit, huh?

[wastepanel]

Thanks for all the posts. Ok, I realize that even though I completely decided to quit, and completely had it in my mind that I was going to do it, I was weak and couldn't manage. I've never met anyone with quite the same habit as me. For example, I started when I was 4. My brother did it, and thought it was funny to see the face I'd make. Here's the bad part. I never spit. I always swallow, like chasing it with iced tea or something. Therefore, this devil weed is flowing through my veins and has been since I can remember.

With that said, this day has been quite enlightening. The first couple of hours were fairly normal, except I was eating a little more than normal. By the 4th or 5th hour, I was having little things cause anger in me that I didn't know could exist. By hour 7, I couldn't tell you what my name was. On top of it all, my girlfriend told me she'd leave me if I chewed anymore (She was with me for 7 years while I did it, so it may have just been a tactic that She thought She was helping me with). When I heard that, I felt like breaking everything in the house and ended up walking a mile down the road for a can.

So here I am. I knew it will be difficult. However, I thought it would be better since I really decided I was going to do it in my mind. But my god, I have never experienced such anger before. I like this site, because I feel bad thinking I let someone down.

I'm leaving the country in January, and they don't sell chewing tobacco over there. I'm tempted to not take any with me, where I'll be forced to quit but it is a little scary to me. I know I'm not supposed to post anything on here if I'm not officially "quit", but I have under estimated exactly how hard this would be, and what it would do to my body, mind, and temperament

My body and mind was put through the ringer today, and I guess I'm trying to figure out if anyone else has swallowed for years and got over the habit, and what happened to them.

Thanks!

Weak sauce man.

How long did it take for you to make the decision this time? How hard is it going to be tomorrow? You can do. You just need to want it more than anything else in this world.

I guarantee there will be hard times, but those hard times will be overshadowed by all the good of being quit. Pain is temporary. Quit is forever.

[cooldht]

Thanks for all the posts. Ok, I realize that even though I completely decided to quit, and completely had it in my mind that I was going to do it, I was weak and couldn't manage. I've never met anyone with quite the same habit as me. For example, I started when I was 4. My brother did it, and thought it was funny to see the face I'd make. Here's the bad part. I never spit. I always swallow, like chasing it with iced tea or something. Therefore, this devil weed is flowing through my veins and has been since I can remember.

With that said, this day has been quite enlightening. The first couple of hours were fairly normal, except I was eating a little more than normal. By the 4th or 5th hour, I was having little things cause anger in me that I didn't know could exist. By hour 7, I couldn't tell you what my name was. On top of it all, my girlfriend told me she'd leave me if I chewed anymore (She was with me for 7 years while I did it, so it may have just been a tactic that She thought She was helping me with). When I heard that, I felt like breaking everything in the house and ended up walking a mile down the road for a can.

So here I am. I knew it will be difficult. However, I thought it would be better since I really decided I was going to do it in my mind. But my god, I have never experienced such anger before. I like this site, because I feel bad thinking I let someone down.

I'm leaving the country in January, and they don't sell chewing tobacco over there. I'm tempted to not take any with me, where I'll be forced to quit but it is a little scary to me. I know I'm not supposed to post anything on here if I'm not officially "quit", but I have under estimated exactly how hard this would be, and what it would do to my body, mind, and temperament

My body and mind was put through the ringer today, and I guess I'm trying to figure out if anyone else has swallowed for years and got over the habit, and what happened to them.

Thanks!

[Dave1903]

I am glad to see that you have joined KTC now get on here read everything and anything on here. You need to find your group get to posting roll with them get as many phone numbers as you can in your group and outside of your group and start making some friends for when times are tough trust me you will have some fog but it will lift after a while. I seen where you said you would try we don't try we do
P.S. Check your inbox

[wastepanel]

so it's pretty much part of who I am.

I think just about everyone in here thought this. I know I did.

It's not true. It's not a part of you. Never has been. Never.

Nicotine is that crazy bitch you dated in high school.

Yeah...she was your first. Yeah...she's got an ass that just don't quit. Yeah...there's a part of you that will always want her.

But, she's also run train with the football team behind your back and given you the clap twice and you're getting itchy down there now. She's abusive and she empties you wallet every chance she gets.

Trust me...those memories of the good times will haunt you but the reality is that you are so much better without her. She's stolen your soul. Take it the fuck back. Own this, and do whatever you really want to do.

Yes. It's a change.

But there's a reason we quit (and it's not because of all the good, but more because of the lack of good). You can do this man. Got your back.

[pbrain04]

so it's pretty much part of who I am.

I think just about everyone in here thought this. I know I did.

It's not true. It's not a part of you. Never has been. Never.

[Erussell]

Congrats on the best thing you will ever do for yourself. Go to the welcome center and read all you can. There is way more to this site besides just this potion. Such as posting roll which is the most important IMO. I agree with the others before me in your thread we don't try, we DO! Read all you can and go post roll, we will quit with you.

[NeonPanther]

Hi all, I'm just trying to quit for the first time in my life. I'm 41 now, but started dipping when I was 4 years old, so it's pretty much part of who I am. Anyway, I was a little confused with this site. Is it pretty much just an online message board where you rant every once in a while, or is there more to it than that?

The first couple hours were pretty normal, now I can't remember what I'm going to the next room for. :(

GOOD NEWS!!!

You are in the right place. This site has one purpose, to help to deal with the consequences of quitting, one day at a time. We aren't here so much to help you quit as to help to stay quit.

It may seem incomprehensible, but you cannot try to quit. It is not a process or a date to wait for or a goal to set.
You quit, or you don't.
The nicotine convinces us that quitting is the hardest part. That quitting is impossible. But it is the easiest impossible thing I have ever done.

Once you quit, the point of this site is to provide a place for you to hold yourself accountable and to build a support system of people that know exactly what you are going through, because they have done it. This isn't empathy, or charity, it is concrete knowledge and experience from successful quitters. You might already have cell numbers in your private message box. If not they will be arriving soon. I recommend you reply with your cell number right back. Then click their name, follow their profile to see their posts and read their intro's and hall of fame posts. You will get to know the people that are reaching out to save your life. They reach out to you just like others reached out just to them.

The point of this site? Personal accountability. Really important, we keep a daily roll call, you just post in your roll group each morning, and promise to not use nicotine for 24 hours. Every day. That's it. I knew when I quit that I was done forever, because I promised myself I quit. But I also knew that I have made that promise a thousand times before and broken it every time. So I promise one day at a time by posting roll, and take it one day at a time.
Welcome center, this will tell you what you need to get started, let me know how else I can help!
index.php?showforum=13

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

Your single solitary mission right now is to quit!!!!! Got it??

You need to do whatever you can to get through the next few days of physical withdrawals. It's gonna be a total bitch. Be strong and do not cave into temptation. You need to get this poison out of your system. It will take you at least 72 hours before you start feeling better. Hunker down and get through this shit. You can do it!!!! You will be so proud and feel so much better. You will be re-born and nicotine free. You just need to get through the next few days. Stay strong and let me know if you need help. I sent you a PM with my number. I'm sure you'll get a bunch of other numbers as well. Use them and let people text and call you as you go through this. Also, let your family know what you are going through and that they need to be supportive.

Congratulations!!! It is a great thing that you are quitting nicotine. KTC will keep you quit if you work the program and if you, yourself, really want to quit. There is a little bit to it, such as posting roll in your quit group (April 2014) and honoring your promise not to use nicotine for that day.

There are thousands of nicotine addicts here that will help you along the quit path. We do it one day at a time because that is easier.



The next couple of days are going to be the gauntlet of your life. After that the new way of clean living will begin, and then it's all mind games and not listening to the nic bitch as she whispers in your ear. This website has tons of reading for you to do, read every bit of it. It will keep you clean and nicotine free! That is the goal, to kick nicotine's ass. Be a man and get through this shit. The brotherhood is here to help you. Don't be afraid to ask for help. And then the beautiful thing is, once you get through that part, we help you each day by promising to one another that we won't use nicotine for that one day. We do it one day at a time.

Call me if you have questions or need help navigating the site and the program. More than happy to help.

Congrats on your great decision. We are here to help you be successful and to stay quit. We are here to save each other's lives.

[cooldht]

Hi all, I'm just trying to quit for the first time in my life. I'm 41 now, but started dipping when I was 4 years old, so it's pretty much part of who I am. Anyway, I was a little confused with this site. Is it pretty much just an online message board where you rant every once in a while, or is there more to it than that?

The first couple hours were pretty normal, now I can't remember what I'm going to the next room for. :(