Quit This Morning On Way Into Work

[Martin]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds?  The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background.  I am at Day 5 of my quit.  One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper.  I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew.  I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency.  I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit.  In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup.  Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!!  I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco.  I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it.  So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal.  Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans.  I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well.  Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

I sometimes still spit with gum in my mouth....crazy huh?

It's why I believe in doing NOTHING! I hear what you are saying.

A few pen caps here and there, but no seeds, fake stuff, etc for me.

I still ninja dip the fake stuff. To a kid there is no difference. If he sees you spit, he is going to spit.

I understand where you're comming from, but I gotta disagree. First...the title of the thread...YES, VIRGINIA, THERE'S A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEEDS AND DIP. Seeds don't contain nicotine, which is the substance to which you and I are addicted.

I'm about a year + half quit now, and don't use any crutches anymore, except sugar free gum while driving. I quit craving about six months ago.

BUT...I was a seed monster for the first six months or so. Learned to load up one cheek, and feed 'em over to the teeth, one at a time, and spit out the shell. My 10-year-old daughter learned to eat seeds at the same time, and we'd have shell-spitting contests sometimes. It was great fun, and I don't regret it one bit. We haven't shared a bag of seeds since last summer, but I expect that we will do so again some day, and I don't harbor any fears that it'll lead her to a life of nic addiction. None.

Seeds are not a gateway drug.

You know at some point, wheather you like it or not, you'd do well to tell you boy about the dangers of chewing tobacco, by showing him your struggles with it, could make the difference on wheather he follows your advice and stays away from it or falls into being a ninja dipper like you used to be.....I say enjoy thie time with you boy...

That is something to consider Dr. Banner. Although at 6 yrs old, I'm not sure if it would have the impact I would want it too. But it's a conversation I might want to consider someday. Thanks for the advice.

my boy is eight and he knows.......has known for quite awhile,,at five, he wanted his mom to quit smoking and still does.....at five he knew that i put stuff in my lip, and wanted to smell it,,,, your damn skippy they need to know, but see we didn't hide it from him, but it made him upset that we did it...now when I'm haveing a bad day, I tell him if I ever catch him chewing " " he's heard it enough he can fill in the blank....you understand?

Yeah, I agree with Theo. The only thing dip and seeds have in common is the spitting. There are huge differences between the two! I think you are overreacting a little. I do not see how kids can make an association between seeds and dip. Does someone go "Hmmm, these seeds just aren't doing it for me. I'm not getting that spitting satisfaction. Maybe I should try dip? That involves spitting. They're almost the same, right?" Can't see it happening. How many of us started dipping due to seed influence?

So does this mean you are going to be a ninja watermelon eater as well?

'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'

[mordecai]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds?  The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background.  I am at Day 5 of my quit.  One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper.  I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew.  I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency.  I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit.  In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup.  Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!!  I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco.  I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it.  So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal.  Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans.  I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well.  Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

I sometimes still spit with gum in my mouth....crazy huh?

It's why I believe in doing NOTHING! I hear what you are saying.

A few pen caps here and there, but no seeds, fake stuff, etc for me.

I still ninja dip the fake stuff. To a kid there is no difference. If he sees you spit, he is going to spit.

I understand where you're comming from, but I gotta disagree. First...the title of the thread...YES, VIRGINIA, THERE'S A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEEDS AND DIP. Seeds don't contain nicotine, which is the substance to which you and I are addicted.

I'm about a year + half quit now, and don't use any crutches anymore, except sugar free gum while driving. I quit craving about six months ago.

BUT...I was a seed monster for the first six months or so. Learned to load up one cheek, and feed 'em over to the teeth, one at a time, and spit out the shell. My 10-year-old daughter learned to eat seeds at the same time, and we'd have shell-spitting contests sometimes. It was great fun, and I don't regret it one bit. We haven't shared a bag of seeds since last summer, but I expect that we will do so again some day, and I don't harbor any fears that it'll lead her to a life of nic addiction. None.

Seeds are not a gateway drug.

You know at some point, wheather you like it or not, you'd do well to tell you boy about the dangers of chewing tobacco, by showing him your struggles with it, could make the difference on wheather he follows your advice and stays away from it or falls into being a ninja dipper like you used to be.....I say enjoy thie time with you boy...

That is something to consider Dr. Banner. Although at 6 yrs old, I'm not sure if it would have the impact I would want it too. But it's a conversation I might want to consider someday. Thanks for the advice.

my boy is eight and he knows.......has known for quite awhile,,at five, he wanted his mom to quit smoking and still does.....at five he knew that i put stuff in my lip, and wanted to smell it,,,, your damn skippy they need to know, but see we didn't hide it from him, but it made him upset that we did it...now when I'm haveing a bad day, I tell him if I ever catch him chewing " " he's heard it enough he can fill in the blank....you understand?

Yeah, I agree with Theo. The only thing dip and seeds have in common is the spitting. There are huge differences between the two! I think you are overreacting a little. I do not see how kids can make an association between seeds and dip. Does someone go "Hmmm, these seeds just aren't doing it for me. I'm not getting that spitting satisfaction. Maybe I should try dip? That involves spitting. They're almost the same, right?" Can't see it happening. How many of us started dipping due to seed influence?

So does this mean you are going to be a ninja watermelon eater as well?

[Dr. Bruce Banner]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds?  The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background.  I am at Day 5 of my quit.  One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper.  I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew.  I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency.  I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit.  In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup.  Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!!  I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco.  I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it.  So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal.  Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans.  I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well.  Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

I sometimes still spit with gum in my mouth....crazy huh?

It's why I believe in doing NOTHING! I hear what you are saying.

A few pen caps here and there, but no seeds, fake stuff, etc for me.

I still ninja dip the fake stuff. To a kid there is no difference. If he sees you spit, he is going to spit.

I understand where you're comming from, but I gotta disagree. First...the title of the thread...YES, VIRGINIA, THERE'S A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEEDS AND DIP. Seeds don't contain nicotine, which is the substance to which you and I are addicted.

I'm about a year + half quit now, and don't use any crutches anymore, except sugar free gum while driving. I quit craving about six months ago.

BUT...I was a seed monster for the first six months or so. Learned to load up one cheek, and feed 'em over to the teeth, one at a time, and spit out the shell. My 10-year-old daughter learned to eat seeds at the same time, and we'd have shell-spitting contests sometimes. It was great fun, and I don't regret it one bit. We haven't shared a bag of seeds since last summer, but I expect that we will do so again some day, and I don't harbor any fears that it'll lead her to a life of nic addiction. None.

Seeds are not a gateway drug.

You know at some point, wheather you like it or not, you'd do well to tell you boy about the dangers of chewing tobacco, by showing him your struggles with it, could make the difference on wheather he follows your advice and stays away from it or falls into being a ninja dipper like you used to be.....I say enjoy thie time with you boy...

That is something to consider Dr. Banner. Although at 6 yrs old, I'm not sure if it would have the impact I would want it too. But it's a conversation I might want to consider someday. Thanks for the advice.

my boy is eight and he knows.......has known for quite awhile,,at five, he wanted his mom to quit smoking and still does.....at five he knew that i put stuff in my lip, and wanted to smell it,,,, your damn skippy they need to know, but see we didn't hide it from him, but it made him upset that we did it...now when I'm haveing a bad day, I tell him if I ever catch him chewing " " he's heard it enough he can fill in the blank....you understand?

[Lochi21]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds?  The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background.  I am at Day 5 of my quit.  One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper.  I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew.  I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency.  I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit.  In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup.  Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!!  I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco.  I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it.  So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal.  Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans.  I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well.  Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

I sometimes still spit with gum in my mouth....crazy huh?

It's why I believe in doing NOTHING! I hear what you are saying.

A few pen caps here and there, but no seeds, fake stuff, etc for me.

I still ninja dip the fake stuff. To a kid there is no difference. If he sees you spit, he is going to spit.

I understand where you're comming from, but I gotta disagree. First...the title of the thread...YES, VIRGINIA, THERE'S A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEEDS AND DIP. Seeds don't contain nicotine, which is the substance to which you and I are addicted.

I'm about a year + half quit now, and don't use any crutches anymore, except sugar free gum while driving. I quit craving about six months ago.

BUT...I was a seed monster for the first six months or so. Learned to load up one cheek, and feed 'em over to the teeth, one at a time, and spit out the shell. My 10-year-old daughter learned to eat seeds at the same time, and we'd have shell-spitting contests sometimes. It was great fun, and I don't regret it one bit. We haven't shared a bag of seeds since last summer, but I expect that we will do so again some day, and I don't harbor any fears that it'll lead her to a life of nic addiction. None.

Seeds are not a gateway drug.

You know at some point, wheather you like it or not, you'd do well to tell you boy about the dangers of chewing tobacco, by showing him your struggles with it, could make the difference on wheather he follows your advice and stays away from it or falls into being a ninja dipper like you used to be.....I say enjoy thie time with you boy...

That is something to consider Dr. Banner. Although at 6 yrs old, I'm not sure if it would have the impact I would want it too. But it's a conversation I might want to consider someday. Thanks for the advice.

[Dr. Bruce Banner]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds?  The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background.  I am at Day 5 of my quit.  One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper.  I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew.  I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency.  I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit.  In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup.  Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!!  I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco.  I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it.  So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal.  Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans.  I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well.  Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

I sometimes still spit with gum in my mouth....crazy huh?

It's why I believe in doing NOTHING! I hear what you are saying.

A few pen caps here and there, but no seeds, fake stuff, etc for me.

I still ninja dip the fake stuff. To a kid there is no difference. If he sees you spit, he is going to spit.

I understand where you're comming from, but I gotta disagree. First...the title of the thread...YES, VIRGINIA, THERE'S A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEEDS AND DIP. Seeds don't contain nicotine, which is the substance to which you and I are addicted.

I'm about a year + half quit now, and don't use any crutches anymore, except sugar free gum while driving. I quit craving about six months ago.

BUT...I was a seed monster for the first six months or so. Learned to load up one cheek, and feed 'em over to the teeth, one at a time, and spit out the shell. My 10-year-old daughter learned to eat seeds at the same time, and we'd have shell-spitting contests sometimes. It was great fun, and I don't regret it one bit. We haven't shared a bag of seeds since last summer, but I expect that we will do so again some day, and I don't harbor any fears that it'll lead her to a life of nic addiction. None.

Seeds are not a gateway drug.

You know at some point, wheather you like it or not, you'd do well to tell you boy about the dangers of chewing tobacco, by showing him your struggles with it, could make the difference on wheather he follows your advice and stays away from it or falls into being a ninja dipper like you used to be.....I say enjoy thie time with you boy...

[theo3wood]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds?  The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background.  I am at Day 5 of my quit.  One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper.  I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew.  I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency.  I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit.  In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup.  Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!!  I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco.  I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it.  So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal.  Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans.  I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well.  Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

I sometimes still spit with gum in my mouth....crazy huh?

It's why I believe in doing NOTHING! I hear what you are saying.

A few pen caps here and there, but no seeds, fake stuff, etc for me.

I still ninja dip the fake stuff. To a kid there is no difference. If he sees you spit, he is going to spit.

I understand where you're comming from, but I gotta disagree. First...the title of the thread...YES, VIRGINIA, THERE'S A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEEDS AND DIP. Seeds don't contain nicotine, which is the substance to which you and I are addicted.

I'm about a year + half quit now, and don't use any crutches anymore, except sugar free gum while driving. I quit craving about six months ago.

BUT...I was a seed monster for the first six months or so. Learned to load up one cheek, and feed 'em over to the teeth, one at a time, and spit out the shell. My 10-year-old daughter learned to eat seeds at the same time, and we'd have shell-spitting contests sometimes. It was great fun, and I don't regret it one bit. We haven't shared a bag of seeds since last summer, but I expect that we will do so again some day, and I don't harbor any fears that it'll lead her to a life of nic addiction. None.

Seeds are not a gateway drug.

[MikeA]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds?  The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background.  I am at Day 5 of my quit.  One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper.  I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew.  I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency.  I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit.  In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup.  Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!!  I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco.  I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it.  So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal.  Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans.  I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well.  Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

I sometimes still spit with gum in my mouth....crazy huh?

It's why I believe in doing NOTHING! I hear what you are saying.

A few pen caps here and there, but no seeds, fake stuff, etc for me.

I still ninja dip the fake stuff. To a kid there is no difference. If he sees you spit, he is going to spit.

[GlennFtheKodiak]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds?  The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background.  I am at Day 5 of my quit.  One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper.  I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew.  I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency.  I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit.  In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup.  Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!!  I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco.  I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it.  So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal.  Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans.  I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well.  Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

I sometimes still spit with gum in my mouth....crazy huh?

It's why I believe in doing NOTHING! I hear what you are saying.

A few pen caps here and there, but no seeds, fake stuff, etc for me.

[cubs204]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds? The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background. I am at Day 5 of my quit. One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper. I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew. I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency. I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit. In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup. Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!! I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco. I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it. So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal. Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans. I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well. Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

I sometimes still spit with gum in my mouth....crazy huh?

[MSHowell]

This is an interesting observation I have never considered before. There are hugh differences I my mind between the two.

If my son came in spitting sunflower seeds into a cup, I may think it is a little un-cultured and suggest to him he buy jars of already shelled seeds. If either one came in spitting tobacco juice, I would lose control quickly.

Another big difference is this. If your son develops a seed habit, they can stop it fairly easily, won't likely cause cancer (not that I know of today), and will cost him much less money during the habit.

That said, I understand the concern you have and say to you, if you don't feel comfortable doing anything around your son, don't do it period (except for the obvious with wifey). Personally, I used hard pretzels and canned nuts (peanuts, pastacios, peacans, cashews) so as to avoid too much sugar or aspartame from sugarless. Now, nearly 4 weeks into my quit, I'm starting to just not want pretzels, et. al. nearly as much.

Most important thing is to do whatever it takes today to not be a nic user. Other issues we can work on later when we're farther along in our quits.

Good job on surviving your first weekend of your quit. 'party2'

[Lochi21]

This weekend I had to ask myself the question is there really a difference between chewing tobacco and eating sunflower seeds? The conclusion I came to...for me, there isn't.

Let me give you a little background. I am at Day 5 of my quit. One of my major personal reasons for quitting is I hated having 2 different lives - father/husband and 1 can/day ninja dipper. I have alway hid my chewing from my wife and son - sneaking off to the basement to "watch TV" but of course it was to chew. I certainly did not want my son to see me chewing because of the example it would set.

So, when I decided to quit last week, I figured I would not go with the HOOCH or mint because I wouldn't do this in front of my family and I wanted complete transparency. I decided instead to go with sunflower seeds, gum and hard candy.

It was while chewing the seeds in front of my son yesterday, I noticed that I was spitting the shells into a cup just like my chew spit. In fact, my son was sitting right there with me spitting shells into the same cup. Once it hit me what it was I was doing I panicked!! I told him to spit out the seeds immediately and I escaped to the basement so I could eat my seeds in private.

After about 5 minutes in the basement, I realized eating seeds is no different from chewing tobacco. I would need to do both in secrecy and I was having none of it. So, I have decided that the only oral substitute acceptable for me is gum and hard candy because I can do these guilt free in front of my family.

I know this isn't a huge deal. Each one of us has our own individual reason for quitting and our own individual quit plans. I just found it strange that I had to give up sunflower seeds as well. Has anyone else ever had this feeling???

Staying quit - one day at a time.

[Steelers]

chewie's 3 step cave plan

Feel free to copy and modify to fit your needs.

step 1: Take picture of son out of wallet.  Look my son in the face and tell him that I love dip more than I love him.

step 2: Take out KillTheCan.org business card, read the words and REALIZE that I'm letting each and every one of YOU down.

step 3: Call each of the 100+ KillTheCan.org phone numbers that I've got in my phone and get PERMISSION from each and every person to have a dip.

P.S.: I've never had to go past step 1

Chewie I like yours better than mine!

LOL.

This is classic, this should be posted everywhere. One of the best I have seen on this site.

[Lochi21]

OK everyone - thanks for the help.

I have 3 numbers programmed into my cell phone already. I have removed EVERYTHING chew related from my house and cars. I stopped at the grocery store on the way home and bought tons of oral substitutes (gum, seeds, candy, etc.). I am new to message boards but plan to be a pro by the end of the weekend.

I'm 13 hours nicotene free. My stomach feels like shit and my gas is terrrible. Headaches haven't started but I know I will have them tomorrow on day 2.

I am going to bed at 8pm - WITH MY WIFE. First time in over 3 yrs I will be sleeping with her. I always snuggled up to NICO BITCH on the couch in the basement. TV on like some fucking vagrant in my own house.

NO FUCKING WAY I AM CHEWING TODAY!

See you at roll call in the morning.

[M3 Man]

I quit chewing tobacco on the way into work this morning.  Last dip spit out at 6:30am - Chicago-time.  Actually, I have been seriously considering it for a couple of days.  The good news is, before I left the house this morning, I made sure I did a sweep of all my stash locations to grab tins and spin cups.  Everything has been thrown away and I just cut up my Sam's Club card at work (where I bought my 5-packs of Grizzly for $10).

I am only 2.5 hours into this so I'm doing OK right now -though starting to have some cravings.  I have chewed for 22 yrs and a tin a day habit for the past 18.  I quit once, a couple of years ago, for about 9 months and like an idiot, I rationalized I could limit it to one chew a day (at night before bed).  Within a week, I was back to chewing full-time.  That quit really depressed me because I thought I had kicked it.  I realize now, after reading this website, I was missing an important component.  Daily accountability.  I did you the 1-800 Tobacco Quit Line but I was leaving it up to them to call me.  I need to be the one to hold myself accountable.

Anyway, I am not very computer literate and I'm not really good at message boards like this.  I know I am going to need help so I am going to put my email address down in hopes someone can help me figure this all out?  I have no idea how to do roll call and I KNOW this is an important process.  I'm crying right now because I feel lost!  Help.

c_tom_21@yahoo.com

Tom, welcome to the rest of your life, and the best decision you could make. You will be in the same quit group as I am in, and I'll help you along the way.

Check your email and you'll have my contact information. Call me and I'll walk you though the roll posting process. (In real life, I'm a software consultant so I'm pretty good at computer user support).

Thanks for your help Mark. I'm a little less confused now.

Damn! Look how fucking cool your avatar is! You definitely have made the right decision. Not the easy one, but the right one.

Use the Old Jedi Mind trick on yourself! Keep this quit going. You are now my brother in the quit. Do not fail me. Do not fail yourself. Do not fail your brothers.

[GlennFtheKodiak]

chewie's 3 step cave plan

Feel free to copy and modify to fit your needs.

step 1: Take picture of son out of wallet. Look my son in the face and tell him that I love dip more than I love him.

step 2: Take out KillTheCan.org business card, read the words and REALIZE that I'm letting each and every one of YOU down.

step 3: Call each of the 100+ KillTheCan.org phone numbers that I've got in my phone and get PERMISSION from each and every person to have a dip.

P.S.: I've never had to go past step 1

Chewie I like yours better than mine!

LOL.