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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #212 on: Today at 07:30:23 AM »
I was having a discussion with my wife and some of her friends that never chewed/smoked about the vaping crisis. I explained the problem with nic gum and vaping.

I hide chew from everyone, it was frowned upon.  Sneaking chews, away from family and friends.  When I couldn't chew, I had nic gum (trying to quit), in between.  the nicotine flowing through my veins had to be off the charts.

Smoking; also frowned upon but also 2nd hand smoke, so people would removed themselves from work/friends/family, etc.  But now, get a vape deal, you can do it anywhere discretely, there is no break, just 24/7 and that has to be hard on your body and lungs.

just thinking and sharing, stay quit!
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Yep... it's getting close to epidemic status, especially amongst young folks. I've always been more of a libertarian but I'm glad we're taking action against this now.

If only similar action would have been taken against Big Tobacco back in the day before smoking / smokeless became what it did... Think of the lives that could have been saved.
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17th Floor - 3.19.11 / 18th Floor - 6.27.11 / 19th Floor - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st Floor - 4.22.12 / 22nd Floor - 7.31.12 / 23rd Floor - 11.8.12 / 24th Floor - 2.16.13 / 25th Floor - 5.27.13
26th Floor - 9.4.13 / 27th Floor - 12.12.13 / 28th Floor - 3.24.14 / 29th Floor - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st Floor - 1.17.15 / 32nd Floor - 4.27.15 / 33rd Floor - 8.5.15 / 34th Floor - 9.13.15
35th Floor - 2.21.16 / 36th Floor - 5.31.16 / 37th Floor - 9.8.16 / 38th Floor - 12.17.16 / 39th Floor - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st Floor - 10.13.17 / 42nd Floor - 1.21.18 / 43rd Floor - 5.1.18
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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #211 on: Today at 07:29:39 AM »
I was having a discussion with my wife and some of her friends that never chewed/smoked about the vaping crisis. I explained the problem with nic gum and vaping.

I hide chew from everyone, it was frowned upon.  Sneaking chews, away from family and friends.  When I couldn't chew, I had nic gum (trying to quit), in between.  the nicotine flowing through my veins had to be off the charts.

Smoking; also frowned upon but also 2nd hand smoke, so people would removed themselves from work/friends/family, etc.  But now, get a vape deal, you can do it anywhere discretely, there is no break, just 24/7 and that has to be hard on your body and lungs.

just thinking and sharing, stay quit!
ID Spuds

Yep... it's getting close to epidemic status, especially amongst young folks. I've always been more of a libertarian but I'm glad we're taking action against this now.
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

QD - 7.24.06 / HOF - 10.31.06 / 2nd Floor - 2.08.07 / 3rd Floor - 5.19.07 / 4th Floor - 8.27.07 / 5th Floor - 12.05.07 / 6th Floor - 3.14.08 / 7th Floor - 6.22.08 / 8th Floor - 9.30.08
9th Floor - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th Floor - 7.27.09 / 12th Floor - 11.04.09 / 13th Floor - 2.12.10 / 14th Floor - 05.23.10 / 15th Floor - 08.31.2010 / 16th Floor - 12.9.10
17th Floor - 3.19.11 / 18th Floor - 6.27.11 / 19th Floor - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st Floor - 4.22.12 / 22nd Floor - 7.31.12 / 23rd Floor - 11.8.12 / 24th Floor - 2.16.13 / 25th Floor - 5.27.13
26th Floor - 9.4.13 / 27th Floor - 12.12.13 / 28th Floor - 3.24.14 / 29th Floor - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st Floor - 1.17.15 / 32nd Floor - 4.27.15 / 33rd Floor - 8.5.15 / 34th Floor - 9.13.15
35th Floor - 2.21.16 / 36th Floor - 5.31.16 / 37th Floor - 9.8.16 / 38th Floor - 12.17.16 / 39th Floor - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st Floor - 10.13.17 / 42nd Floor - 1.21.18 / 43rd Floor - 5.1.18
44th Floor - 8.9.18 / 45th Floor - 11.17.18 / 46th Floor - 2.25.19 / 47th Floor - 6.5.19 / 48th Floor - 9.13.19
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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #210 on: September 16, 2019, 06:31:56 PM »
I was having a discussion with my wife and some of her friends that never chewed/smoked about the vaping crisis. I explained the problem with nic gum and vaping.

I hide chew from everyone, it was frowned upon.  Sneaking chews, away from family and friends.  When I couldn't chew, I had nic gum (trying to quit), in between.  the nicotine flowing through my veins had to be off the charts.

Smoking; also frowned upon but also 2nd hand smoke, so people would removed themselves from work/friends/family, etc.  But now, get a vape deal, you can do it anywhere discretely, there is no break, just 24/7 and that has to be hard on your body and lungs.

just thinking and sharing, stay quit!
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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #209 on: September 11, 2019, 01:58:26 PM »
Controlling urges

I've learned that if you ignore the craving, it just goes away, sometimes immediately. If you take even step towards giving in or don't dismiss the thought right then, your mind takes advantage and that's when the excuse making and justifications start coming.

With that in mind, how do you guys deal with the sudden urges? I've got sunflower seeds and Grinds to keep my mouth busy. I also reward myself with food or candy. You can't quit dip and lose weight at the same time.

Another strategy is I go play with my kids, take them out somewhere or sit down in my studio with my guitar ( lead singer of a band, working on a solo album ).

I've been fortunate, it's been a pretty easy road for me the past few weeks by using lessons I learned from previous failures. Let's here from you guys.
  Couldn'y agree more on the hobbies Dan..  Have aGuitar myself, a great alternate focus....

With your history and experiences, I bet you could write some great blues or country songs!!

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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #208 on: September 11, 2019, 12:00:36 PM »
well fellas...  here goes my day three...   and i haven't told a soul i work with or any family...   it's a private thing for me...  i live alone and family all grown..   

I quit ten years ago, for one year....  i don't wanna scare anybody but in that year i lost my marriage, our farm property, and i also lost a full-time government job....   

I'm thinking, was it them or was it me??   Hmmm   quitting again, I know it can be done....   (Just trying not to be an arse hole to everyone i care about this time)....

Lot of people lost a lot of things 10 years ago. Thems were hard times and it seems like we're out of the woods. Be glad you didn't lose your jaw, you didn't lose your larynx or your tongue .........the job, wife and farm can be replaced.

Follow Chris's advice. Post in your quit group and get some people other than yourself to be accountable to.

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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #207 on: September 10, 2019, 10:48:10 AM »
well fellas...  here goes my day three...   and i haven't told a soul i work with or any family...   it's a private thing for me...  i live alone and family all grown..   

I quit ten years ago, for one year....  i don't wanna scare anybody but in that year i lost my marriage, our farm property, and i also lost a full-time government job....   

I'm thinking, was it them or was it me??   Hmmm   quitting again, I know it can be done....   (Just trying not to be an arse hole to everyone i care about this time)....

Hi Uncle Pat,

Here at KTC we quit One Day at a Time (ODAAT) posting our promise in our respective quit groups early each day to abstain from any form of nicotine for the next 24 hours.  If you believe you can keep your word to remain nicotine free for 24 hours and you are doing this for you and you alone, then you are in the right place.

Your Quit Group is December 2019 Pre-HOF Quit Group.  You can click that and it will take you right to it.  Posting roll consists of you typing your name, day count and your promise to remain nicotine free.  Find the most recent roll post, hit quote in the top right corner of the post, go to the last name under the header "New Bad Ass Quitters Post your promise here", click under the last person and type your name, day count and promise and then hit "Post" in the bottom right corner.

You can come in here and vent all you want.  We can take, we've been where you are at.  No reason to take it out on family, friends or co-workers, they did not do this to you, you did.  Learn about your addiction in these halls, there is a wealth of knowledge and knowledge is power.  Reach out to fellow quitters for support in times if need (this means exchanging phone numbers with other people on this forum and using those numbers to actually talk to people and build the bonds of brotherhood.  Exchanging numbers also helps keep you and your brothers accountable as now, we can get a hold of you if you forget to post one morning.

One more thing, you didn't quit ten years ago.  You had a stoppage of nicotine use for a while.  Now is the time you are quitting, and your addict brain will now that you are serious too, because it will fight you all the way.  You must be stronger than the addict in you.  Your addict brain will come up with the best damn excuses for you to use nicotine, but that is all they are, excuses and excuses are like ass holes, everyone has one and they all stink.

So go post roll, then start getting to know your quit brothers and sisters.  Exchange numbers through the Private Message feature of this forum only.  If you want my digits, send me a PM ans they will be yours, but I expect your in return.

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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #206 on: September 10, 2019, 10:45:47 AM »
Controlling urges

I've learned that if you ignore the craving, it just goes away, sometimes immediately. If you take even step towards giving in or don't dismiss the thought right then, your mind takes advantage and that's when the excuse making and justifications start coming.

With that in mind, how do you guys deal with the sudden urges? I've got sunflower seeds and Grinds to keep my mouth busy. I also reward myself with food or candy. You can't quit dip and lose weight at the same time.

Another strategy is I go play with my kids, take them out somewhere or sit down in my studio with my guitar ( lead singer of a band, working on a solo album ).

I've been fortunate, it's been a pretty easy road for me the past few weeks by using lessons I learned from previous failures. Let's here from you guys.
  Couldn'y agree more on the hobbies Dan..  Have aGuitar myself, a great alternate focus....

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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #205 on: September 10, 2019, 10:28:19 AM »
well fellas...  here goes my day three...   and i haven't told a soul i work with or any family...   it's a private thing for me...  i live alone and family all grown..   

I quit ten years ago, for one year....  i don't wanna scare anybody but in that year i lost my marriage, our farm property, and i also lost a full-time government job....   

I'm thinking, was it them or was it me??   Hmmm   quitting again, I know it can be done....   (Just trying not to be an arse hole to everyone i care about this time).... 

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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #204 on: September 03, 2019, 01:52:56 PM »
Hello -

I'm sorry if this has already been asked at some point in the past, but I've looked around and couldn't find anything related to the subject.  I'm 7 days quit, which is very early in the process and HOF.  Prior to quitting I had chewed probably about a can every 1 or 2 days (sometimes more) for about 20 years. 

Long story short, I've been having little to no desire to do anything, and by anything, I mean everything.  I feel very depressed in the mornings and most of the day, have to work through the fog, and my desire to live life is little to none.  What worries me the most is I'm 35 years young and happily married, yet I find my self with little desire to even have sex.  Has anyone else ever had issues with their sex life during quitting (or even while they were dipping)? 

I've seen a therapist and a doctor about depression, and I just started taking lexapro for anxiety, which is probably why I dipped in the first place - to mask my anxiety/depression.  Anyway, I wanted to pose this question because I'm curious if it's related to quitting or something else. 

Thanks and I'm glad I found this forum.

Try exercising and being more active, it has always helped me through my problems whether nic related or not. As for the sex I had lost a bit of initiative with my girl when I quit initially but it has come back to me since then, I’m sure this will pass just like the fog if you need anyone to talk or vent to pm me or any of the guys here for our numbers

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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #203 on: September 03, 2019, 09:56:54 AM »
This topic is so awesome and well to read.

Oh boy... this smells spammy. I hope I'm wrong.

Dammit... I hate when I'm right.  >:(
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9th Floor - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th Floor - 7.27.09 / 12th Floor - 11.04.09 / 13th Floor - 2.12.10 / 14th Floor - 05.23.10 / 15th Floor - 08.31.2010 / 16th Floor - 12.9.10
17th Floor - 3.19.11 / 18th Floor - 6.27.11 / 19th Floor - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st Floor - 4.22.12 / 22nd Floor - 7.31.12 / 23rd Floor - 11.8.12 / 24th Floor - 2.16.13 / 25th Floor - 5.27.13
26th Floor - 9.4.13 / 27th Floor - 12.12.13 / 28th Floor - 3.24.14 / 29th Floor - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st Floor - 1.17.15 / 32nd Floor - 4.27.15 / 33rd Floor - 8.5.15 / 34th Floor - 9.13.15
35th Floor - 2.21.16 / 36th Floor - 5.31.16 / 37th Floor - 9.8.16 / 38th Floor - 12.17.16 / 39th Floor - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st Floor - 10.13.17 / 42nd Floor - 1.21.18 / 43rd Floor - 5.1.18
44th Floor - 8.9.18 / 45th Floor - 11.17.18 / 46th Floor - 2.25.19 / 47th Floor - 6.5.19 / 48th Floor - 9.13.19
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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #202 on: September 03, 2019, 09:53:58 AM »
This topic is so awesome and well to read.

Oh boy... this smells spammy. I hope I'm wrong.
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

QD - 7.24.06 / HOF - 10.31.06 / 2nd Floor - 2.08.07 / 3rd Floor - 5.19.07 / 4th Floor - 8.27.07 / 5th Floor - 12.05.07 / 6th Floor - 3.14.08 / 7th Floor - 6.22.08 / 8th Floor - 9.30.08
9th Floor - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th Floor - 7.27.09 / 12th Floor - 11.04.09 / 13th Floor - 2.12.10 / 14th Floor - 05.23.10 / 15th Floor - 08.31.2010 / 16th Floor - 12.9.10
17th Floor - 3.19.11 / 18th Floor - 6.27.11 / 19th Floor - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st Floor - 4.22.12 / 22nd Floor - 7.31.12 / 23rd Floor - 11.8.12 / 24th Floor - 2.16.13 / 25th Floor - 5.27.13
26th Floor - 9.4.13 / 27th Floor - 12.12.13 / 28th Floor - 3.24.14 / 29th Floor - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st Floor - 1.17.15 / 32nd Floor - 4.27.15 / 33rd Floor - 8.5.15 / 34th Floor - 9.13.15
35th Floor - 2.21.16 / 36th Floor - 5.31.16 / 37th Floor - 9.8.16 / 38th Floor - 12.17.16 / 39th Floor - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st Floor - 10.13.17 / 42nd Floor - 1.21.18 / 43rd Floor - 5.1.18
44th Floor - 8.9.18 / 45th Floor - 11.17.18 / 46th Floor - 2.25.19 / 47th Floor - 6.5.19 / 48th Floor - 9.13.19
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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #201 on: September 03, 2019, 08:21:43 AM »
This topic is so awesome and well to read.

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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #200 on: September 01, 2019, 07:50:00 AM »
I can't even remember what it's like to not dip everyday, or what my attitude is like without tobacco.  I'm looking forward to experiencing things without it.  I think this forum will be super helpful.

This right here stood out to me...

1) It'll take a LONG time for you to forget dipping... but it WILL happen.

2) It'll take a LONG time for you to learn to live again without dipping... but it WILL happen.

3) Getting here daily, developing relationships and posting daily WILL be super helpful.

Proud to be quit with you today!

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9th Floor - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th Floor - 7.27.09 / 12th Floor - 11.04.09 / 13th Floor - 2.12.10 / 14th Floor - 05.23.10 / 15th Floor - 08.31.2010 / 16th Floor - 12.9.10
17th Floor - 3.19.11 / 18th Floor - 6.27.11 / 19th Floor - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st Floor - 4.22.12 / 22nd Floor - 7.31.12 / 23rd Floor - 11.8.12 / 24th Floor - 2.16.13 / 25th Floor - 5.27.13
26th Floor - 9.4.13 / 27th Floor - 12.12.13 / 28th Floor - 3.24.14 / 29th Floor - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st Floor - 1.17.15 / 32nd Floor - 4.27.15 / 33rd Floor - 8.5.15 / 34th Floor - 9.13.15
35th Floor - 2.21.16 / 36th Floor - 5.31.16 / 37th Floor - 9.8.16 / 38th Floor - 12.17.16 / 39th Floor - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st Floor - 10.13.17 / 42nd Floor - 1.21.18 / 43rd Floor - 5.1.18
44th Floor - 8.9.18 / 45th Floor - 11.17.18 / 46th Floor - 2.25.19 / 47th Floor - 6.5.19 / 48th Floor - 9.13.19
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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #199 on: August 29, 2019, 11:42:15 AM »
Hello -

I'm sorry if this has already been asked at some point in the past, but I've looked around and couldn't find anything related to the subject.  I'm 7 days quit, which is very early in the process and HOF.  Prior to quitting I had chewed probably about a can every 1 or 2 days (sometimes more) for about 20 years. 

Long story short, I've been having little to no desire to do anything, and by anything, I mean everything.  I feel very depressed in the mornings and most of the day, have to work through the fog, and my desire to live life is little to none.  What worries me the most is I'm 35 years young and happily married, yet I find my self with little desire to even have sex.  Has anyone else ever had issues with their sex life during quitting (or even while they were dipping)? 

I've seen a therapist and a doctor about depression, and I just started taking lexapro for anxiety, which is probably why I dipped in the first place - to mask my anxiety/depression.  Anyway, I wanted to pose this question because I'm curious if it's related to quitting or something else. 

Thanks and I'm glad I found this forum.

Try to keep yourself busy. Force yourself to do things.

Not sure what to tell you about depression other than it will likely wane at some point. Another poster said the nicotine high could have been covering up underlying depression.

What I can promise you for sure is this: In 2 years or 5 years or 10 years, a dip free version of you will be much happier than a version who decided to go back to the can. Hang tough, make a list of shit to do and keep busy.

Thanks for the responses.  I actually feel a little better today.  I appreciate the advice and will be checking in here each morning for roll call.  I can't even remember what it's like to not dip everyday, or what my attitude is like without tobacco.  I'm looking forward to experiencing things without it.  I think this forum will be super helpful.

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Re: General Discussion - 2019
« Reply #198 on: August 29, 2019, 09:00:16 AM »
Hello -

I'm sorry if this has already been asked at some point in the past, but I've looked around and couldn't find anything related to the subject.  I'm 7 days quit, which is very early in the process and HOF.  Prior to quitting I had chewed probably about a can every 1 or 2 days (sometimes more) for about 20 years. 

Long story short, I've been having little to no desire to do anything, and by anything, I mean everything.  I feel very depressed in the mornings and most of the day, have to work through the fog, and my desire to live life is little to none.  What worries me the most is I'm 35 years young and happily married, yet I find my self with little desire to even have sex.  Has anyone else ever had issues with their sex life during quitting (or even while they were dipping)? 

I've seen a therapist and a doctor about depression, and I just started taking lexapro for anxiety, which is probably why I dipped in the first place - to mask my anxiety/depression.  Anyway, I wanted to pose this question because I'm curious if it's related to quitting or something else. 

Thanks and I'm glad I found this forum.

Try to keep yourself busy. Force yourself to do things.

Not sure what to tell you about depression other than it will likely wane at some point. Another poster said the nicotine high could have been covering up underlying depression.

What I can promise you for sure is this: In 2 years or 5 years or 10 years, a dip free version of you will be much happier than a version who decided to go back to the can. Hang tough, make a list of shit to do and keep busy.