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Offline Erussell

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2013, 04:40:00 PM »
Man you gotta just keep on keeping on. Your brain is gonna play tricks on you every way it can. It wants you to poison it. Or at least it thinks it does. You are healing believe it or not. And believe this or not it gets better. I am only on day 43 and it seems like every day is a huge improvement now. It also feels like I have been quit longer than I have. It still has its moments but as many below said it gets better. Keep your head in the game, keep your word, remember you posted roll and can't dip that day. One day at a time bro . One day at a time.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 04:25:00 PM »
Quote from: dkite
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: cdmavs41
Quote from: JRizzle
1) People struggle and even cave with this even YEARS after they originally quit
2) I'm missing out on all the things that I enjoy, or better put I'm not enjoying them as much as I would if I had access to tobacco

I'm familiar with these 2 lies. They've come and gone more times than I can count during my quit. My grandfather was 89 when he passed, and he dipped and smoked. During bad craves, I would actually fantasize about making it to my 80's just so I could cave and not care at all. Like having a final victory cigar (no nic pun intended) while riding off into the sunset. That's fucking morbid and wierd.

The second lie, about things being less enjoyable without dip, plagues everyone early in their quit. I dipped for about the same amount of time as you, 11 years, from 14 to 25. It's pretty damn hard to remember how things were when you were a young teen, so essentially all you know is life with dip. What you'll realize is, dip doesn't make anything better. Actually, not only have the things I did with dip been better, I now do more things because I don't dip.

It's crazy how many more things I can do now that my blood pressure isn't always high, I'm not always anxious, and I'm not hiding alone somewhere because I'm embarrassed about having shit in my mouth. It's a beautiful moment in your quit when you realize that the world is a gigantic place with so many opportunities you've been missing out on because of this addiction. That's when the phrase "the world is your oyster" starts to not seem so cheesy. Go out and live life to the fullest man! Leave the poison behind.
He is right. The bitch is whispering in your ear. DON'T Listen!!!
I had these come to mind when I first started my quit dont listen.... you can do this just one day at a time keep on quiting.
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This is hard work and well worth it, if you value your tongue and jaw.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2013, 04:10:00 PM »
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Quote from: cdmavs41
Quote from: JRizzle
1) People struggle and even cave with this even YEARS after they originally quit
2) I'm missing out on all the things that I enjoy, or better put I'm not enjoying them as much as I would if I had access to tobacco

I'm familiar with these 2 lies. They've come and gone more times than I can count during my quit. My grandfather was 89 when he passed, and he dipped and smoked. During bad craves, I would actually fantasize about making it to my 80's just so I could cave and not care at all. Like having a final victory cigar (no nic pun intended) while riding off into the sunset. That's fucking morbid and wierd.

The second lie, about things being less enjoyable without dip, plagues everyone early in their quit. I dipped for about the same amount of time as you, 11 years, from 14 to 25. It's pretty damn hard to remember how things were when you were a young teen, so essentially all you know is life with dip. What you'll realize is, dip doesn't make anything better. Actually, not only have the things I did with dip been better, I now do more things because I don't dip.

It's crazy how many more things I can do now that my blood pressure isn't always high, I'm not always anxious, and I'm not hiding alone somewhere because I'm embarrassed about having shit in my mouth. It's a beautiful moment in your quit when you realize that the world is a gigantic place with so many opportunities you've been missing out on because of this addiction. That's when the phrase "the world is your oyster" starts to not seem so cheesy. Go out and live life to the fullest man! Leave the poison behind.
He is right. The bitch is whispering in your ear. DON'T Listen!!!
I had these come to mind when I first started my quit dont listen.... you can do this just one day at a time keep on quiting.
dkite

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2013, 03:56:00 PM »
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Quote from: JRizzle
1) People struggle and even cave with this even YEARS after they originally quit
2) I'm missing out on all the things that I enjoy, or better put I'm not enjoying them as much as I would if I had access to tobacco

I'm familiar with these 2 lies. They've come and gone more times than I can count during my quit. My grandfather was 89 when he passed, and he dipped and smoked. During bad craves, I would actually fantasize about making it to my 80's just so I could cave and not care at all. Like having a final victory cigar (no nic pun intended) while riding off into the sunset. That's fucking morbid and wierd.

The second lie, about things being less enjoyable without dip, plagues everyone early in their quit. I dipped for about the same amount of time as you, 11 years, from 14 to 25. It's pretty damn hard to remember how things were when you were a young teen, so essentially all you know is life with dip. What you'll realize is, dip doesn't make anything better. Actually, not only have the things I did with dip been better, I now do more things because I don't dip.

It's crazy how many more things I can do now that my blood pressure isn't always high, I'm not always anxious, and I'm not hiding alone somewhere because I'm embarrassed about having shit in my mouth. It's a beautiful moment in your quit when you realize that the world is a gigantic place with so many opportunities you've been missing out on because of this addiction. That's when the phrase "the world is your oyster" starts to not seem so cheesy. Go out and live life to the fullest man! Leave the poison behind.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2013, 03:42:00 PM »
Quote from: JRizzle
1) People struggle and even cave with this even YEARS after they originally quit
2) I'm missing out on all the things that I enjoy, or better put I'm not enjoying them as much as I would if I had access to tobacco

I'm familiar with these 2 lies. They've come and gone more times than I can count during my quit. My grandfather was 89 when he passed, and he dipped and smoked. During bad craves, I would actually fantasize about making it to my 80's just so I could cave and not care at all. Like having a final victory cigar (no nic pun intended) while riding off into the sunset. That's fucking morbid and wierd.

The second lie, about things being less enjoyable without dip, plagues everyone early in their quit. I dipped for about the same amount of time as you, 11 years, from 14 to 25. It's pretty damn hard to remember how things were when you were a young teen, so essentially all you know is life with dip. What you'll realize is, dip doesn't make anything better. Actually, not only have the things I did with dip been better, I now do more things because I don't dip.

It's crazy how many more things I can do now that my blood pressure isn't always high, I'm not always anxious, and I'm not hiding alone somewhere because I'm embarrassed about having shit in my mouth. It's a beautiful moment in your quit when you realize that the world is a gigantic place with so many opportunities you've been missing out on because of this addiction. That's when the phrase "the world is your oyster" starts to not seem so cheesy. Go out and live life to the fullest man! Leave the poison behind.
Mr. Skoal, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2013, 01:30:00 PM »
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Yesterday and today were a little harder than the 1st couple days.  I fought insomnia overnight and had my first dip dream.  Wow, who woulda thought that a poisonous, heavily addictive substance like nicotine could cause issues like that??

There are two main justifications my mind goes through:

1) People struggle and even cave with this even YEARS after they originally quit
2) I'm missing out on all the things that I enjoy, or better put I'm not enjoying them as much as I would if I had access to tobacco


First, this journey is a day at a time.  I quit today.  As Christ instructed, I will let tomorrow worry about itself. 

Second, there is truth that I got a buzz from dip.  But did I enjoy golfing more because I had a dip??  When I laughed with my dad on the farm over some joke, was that moment more enjoyable because I was chewing??  So much of life is moment-to-moment emotions, and as soon as we're distracted then the non-essentials (nicotine cravings) fade to the background.  Furthermore, my brain has to re-wire some of its memories/associations, which will take time.

Finally, I remember when I first started chewing.  It helped pass the time in the tractor or in my car on the way to college.  But it wouldn't stop.  Soon it was demanding more and more of my time, energy, thoughts, and money, and it was giving me less and less in return.  It was giving me anxiety to think about how I would survive without it and making me run around ensuring a supply without any pleasure whatsoever.  By the end it owned me, defined me, and it had cost me so many leisurely, social, and professional experiences because it controlled me. 

In that way it reminds me so much of the nature of sin.  Sin promises pleasure but only provides despair.  And all I can do now is admit I am a sinner, I am an addict, and that I can only move on by relying on God and fellowship by taking it one day at a time.
Well put JRizz. The whole re-wiring of the brain is so true. EVERYTHING that I do has at one time or another been associated with a pinch of Skoal. Not no more. Time to make some new memories without the bitch. Starting tonight fixing the riding lawnmower. I'll have my 7 year old boy help me and not have to stop mid sentence to walk out of the garage to spit before I continue....

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 01:26:00 PM »
Quote from: JRizzle
Yesterday and today were a little harder than the 1st couple days.  I fought insomnia overnight and had my first dip dream.  Wow, who woulda thought that a poisonous, heavily addictive substance like nicotine could cause issues like that??

There are two main justifications my mind goes through:

1) People struggle and even cave with this even YEARS after they originally quit
2) I'm missing out on all the things that I enjoy, or better put I'm not enjoying them as much as I would if I had access to tobacco


First, this journey is a day at a time.  I quit today.  As Christ instructed, I will let tomorrow worry about itself. 

Second, there is truth that I got a buzz from dip.  But did I enjoy golfing more because I had a dip??  When I laughed with my dad on the farm over some joke, was that moment more enjoyable because I was chewing??  So much of life is moment-to-moment emotions, and as soon as we're distracted then the non-essentials (nicotine cravings) fade to the background.  Furthermore, my brain has to re-wire some of its memories/associations, which will take time.

Finally, I remember when I first started chewing.  It helped pass the time in the tractor or in my car on the way to college.  But it wouldn't stop.  Soon it was demanding more and more of my time, energy, thoughts, and money, and it was giving me less and less in return.  It was giving me anxiety to think about how I would survive without it and making me run around ensuring a supply without any pleasure whatsoever.  By the end it owned me, defined me, and it had cost me so many leisurely, social, and professional experiences because it controlled me. 

In that way it reminds me so much of the nature of sin.  Sin promises pleasure but only provides despair.  And all I can do now is admit I am a sinner, I am an addict, and that I can only move on by relying on God and fellowship by taking it one day at a time.
JR, you got a few more days of the crap, it will continue to get worse before it gets better.

I like you was in love with my dip. It was my savior, to stressful day, or my companion on a long drive. My buddy, that watched me sink that 30 foot birdie putt. My hunting partner, and my fishing companion. My office mate, my bed mate at times.
All of this love right? But she was trying to kill me! The Nic bitch had me so blind, that I did not see the true her. As the years pressed on my dependence grew. She then started to turn ugly, and the light was shown. She did not make any of those things better, she blinded me with POISON!

I can promise you this, hang in there, it gets better. Also, the 30' birdie putt, feels better when you are not strained and tied by an addiction.

Own it, I quit with you.

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 01:04:00 PM »
Yesterday and today were a little harder than the 1st couple days. I fought insomnia overnight and had my first dip dream. Wow, who woulda thought that a poisonous, heavily addictive substance like nicotine could cause issues like that??

There are two main justifications my mind goes through:

1) People struggle and even cave with this even YEARS after they originally quit
2) I'm missing out on all the things that I enjoy, or better put I'm not enjoying them as much as I would if I had access to tobacco


First, this journey is a day at a time. I quit today. As Christ instructed, I will let tomorrow worry about itself.

Second, there is truth that I got a buzz from dip. But did I enjoy golfing more because I had a dip?? When I laughed with my dad on the farm over some joke, was that moment more enjoyable because I was chewing?? So much of life is moment-to-moment emotions, and as soon as we're distracted then the non-essentials (nicotine cravings) fade to the background. Furthermore, my brain has to re-wire some of its memories/associations, which will take time.

Finally, I remember when I first started chewing. It helped pass the time in the tractor or in my car on the way to college. But it wouldn't stop. Soon it was demanding more and more of my time, energy, thoughts, and money, and it was giving me less and less in return. It was giving me anxiety to think about how I would survive without it and making me run around ensuring a supply without any pleasure whatsoever. By the end it owned me, defined me, and it had cost me so many leisurely, social, and professional experiences because it controlled me.

In that way it reminds me so much of the nature of sin. Sin promises pleasure but only provides despair. And all I can do now is admit I am a sinner, I am an addict, and that I can only move on by relying on God and fellowship by taking it one day at a time.
We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

Has tobacco been so kind to you that you should leave it with regret? There are far better things ahead than any we leave behind.

Come join us. Come be quit with us. Rather than slowly commit suicide, slowly regain your health. It might hurt at first, but it won't kill you. And once the birthing process is done you'll find yourself a free man. With friends. And health. And wealth. Come drink at the fountain of quit.

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2013, 12:27:00 PM »
Welcome JR - congrats on your decision. You will not regret it. PM me for my number - this is all about accountability and getting involved. You have succeeded. The decision has been made and you're quit. Now it's all about doing whatever you need to do to post a +1 every damn day. Listen to the vets here, they are wiser than Confucius and can run faster than cheetahs with jet packs. Post roll, but come back here periodically to to log your journey.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 12:11:00 PM »
JR, remember everything you just wrote! Think of that potential cancer lurking in your gums. Skin Graphs? Sounds like fun NOT!!! Go own your quit. Be accountable, reach out and stay quit. Post roll, very damn day man, like your life depends on it. Because it does.

Ill quit with you today. Then we will do it again tomorrow!

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 12:10:00 PM »
Welcome to the SUCK my friend. It will be the worst but most rewarding days of your life. It will be your right of passage into this brotherhood. We all can tell stories about the SUCK!! ( First 3 days of quitting) Embrace it! Remember how bad it is so you will never do this shit to yourself again!! I quit with you today!!

Hydrate, Work out and stay quit!!! Post Roll, Keep your Word and Repeat daily my friend!!

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 12:04:00 PM »
Welcome JR. You are a member of the September, 2013 Quit group. Look in the upper right hand of your screen and you will see a box that says "Inbox". Open it and you will have a message (PM) from me. It is my telephone number. Please call me and I will help you out with the posting of roll and answer some questions you are sure to have. Best regards, Wayne
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2013, 12:00:00 PM »
Just wanted to offer a welcome. You sound ready. Don't be afraid to admit you're an addict. I'm a firm believer that those who can't embrace that they are addicts and not simply addicted are destined for a cave. The difference is this: if you are just addicted, you can beat that and then try a little when you're not addicted anymore. When you're an addict, it's for life and "just one" is too many.

So for today I promise not to use nicotine with you.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2013, 11:55:00 AM »
This site can help you kick your nicotine habit to the curb. We don't use words like try or hope as they are just another excuse for our addictive brains to tell us another lie. There are no short cuts, but here are some links that will help you navigate this site.

This a NO NICOTINE site. End of discussion. Why this Site Works

Biggest thing to do is get acquainted with this site.

Highly recommend you go here: Welcome Center, Getting Acclimated and What to Expect
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Introduction
« on: June 10, 2013, 11:51:00 AM »
Alright, this is day 3 of my quit; my last dip was Friday morning at 7:30. I started chewing when I was 16 (12 years ago) and since I started this is the longest I've gone without chewing. Honestly I was addicted very strong; during busy times on the farm I'd go through 1.5 cans/day, and even during the slow times I still generally went through 1 can/day.

I first tried quitting in January of 2012, but I pussed out. Then last November I found the killthecan.com website and managed to cut back substantially, which was capped by a single 24 hour period without chewing. Slowly, however, my consumption increased, and by this last planting season I was back to my maximum chewing levels.

In April I got a sore on a gum that had given me on-again, off-again pain for years. Although it hadn't really gotten worse, it hadn't gotten better either, and last week I finally sucked it up and scheduled an appointment to see my dentist. He said he is pretty sure it's not malignant and that my gum has simply eroded away in one spot so the root of the tooth is slightly exposed; not altogether uncommon, but if it can't heal itself then they will need to do a skin graft.

Coming into that appointment (which was last Thursday) I had put strong controls over my chewing (not bringing to my office job, nor in my vehicle, etc., essentially just dipping at home). Then, after talking to my dentist, I realized that I don't need the stuff at all. I had a dip that night, one Friday morning, and none since.

I thought the weekend would be really tough. It had its moments, but although I thought about dipping a bit I really never felt strongly compelled to cave. I know that every quit is different, that my fog might come after 2 weeks or even 2 months, but I'm encouraged that I've been able to stop thus far and have been able to choke off any fleeting urges. And guess what: my mouth feels great!! Although I have my doubts that my gum will completely heal itself without some grafting, in general the interior of my mouth feels smooth, clean, and it doesn't have a bunch of rough, white areas.

So, that's my story. I'm having trouble figuring out how to join my quit group/post roll, so if anyone can provide the link I need to go to in order to join you in posting roll that would be great!
We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

Has tobacco been so kind to you that you should leave it with regret? There are far better things ahead than any we leave behind.

Come join us. Come be quit with us. Rather than slowly commit suicide, slowly regain your health. It might hurt at first, but it won't kill you. And once the birthing process is done you'll find yourself a free man. With friends. And health. And wealth. Come drink at the fountain of quit.