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Offline 30isEnuff

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #75 on: December 17, 2013, 03:17:00 PM »
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: jake
Quote from: JRizzle
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Dougie
Posting this from the September 13 Page... I bumped Duathman's reply so they are both copied in here- might look a bit confusing!
Quote from: JRizzle
Good Afternoon Slutes,

I realize that I haven't posted since Saturday afternoon and I also realize that up to that point my posting had become more and more erratic.  I haven't caved.  I just have continued to be very busy between my job, the farm, and my dad's health. 

This isn't an excuse.  Perhaps it suffices to say that posting roll has not been a priority for me.  I still have occasional craves and am constantly reminded that I'm an addict.  I also recognize that not posting roll going forward could put me at higher risk for relapse.  But I want to be fair to you all.  Your comraderie has allowed me to quit and stay quit; your accountability has meant the world to me.  If you feel strongly about this, please contact me directly.  But I don't think that it's fair to you all for me to post inconsistently. 

Some of you may call me out and call me a "wimp" or a "pussy" or "non-committal".  But I've proven over the last few weeks that I either cannot or will not post consistently, and if that's the case then I think it's better that I not post at all rather than having me post in a random and infrequent manner.  And so you know, I have several other committments.  I am able to have accountability at a local level with someone who is in a Bible study that I lead, so I'm not going about this alone, and having a "shared experience" with him will be more time efficient for me.


I want to thank you all for all that you've done and I would love to stay in contact with you if you so desire.  Feel free to message me for personal contact information.  If you want to vent or give push-back, feel free to do so; I will still visit the site.  But I don't want to be inconsistent in my commitment to all of you, which is why I think that it would be better for me to not post at all.
Duathman-
Jesse I hope you understand the risk you are taking. Just today I went back and reread what Jake (you do know he caved?) Frawley wrote up about me when he introduced me to the HOF train. One thing stuck out about that intro, "Always remember why you are here and that is because your way of quitting sucked and needed this site." This site brings more accountability and brotherhood than I could ever get from even my wife. See other people have no idea of what we struggle with on a daily basis.

That is why we feel that EDD means so much to us. We understand that we can never forget what our common interest is and we will support each other any and everyway we can. I never think its OK for someone to leave the site, but I really don't care that much when they do.

See I am a caver and right around this time in my "stop" around 180 days last time I caved. I say around 180 days because I quit posting. Back on day 1 again after I decided I never needed this site.

I can be reached anytime you have my digits. Please reach out if you need anything and I pray for you and your family with your dad's health.

NAFAR

Dougie-

Well. I hope I dont see you in a few weeks/months/years posting another day 1... I say weeks, months, and years because I plan on keeping KTC part of my daily ritual. It worked for me day 3 - now, therefore I have to assume that it will keep working for me for years to come.

I am not willing to risk my life to save a couple of minutes each day. Posting roll is the easiest, cheapest, and safest insurance a quitter can get.


Good Luck.
When you were dipping did you have time in your busy schedule to buy a can?

You were very active in KTC and I think I might understand what happened... If you can't be "all in" you feel guilty. Look, if all you can do for a season is put your name and number on one board, that's okay. One day you might get more active again. That little act is okay for a season if that's all you can do.

You can do that. Don't turn your back on your quit. No one will keep you accountable like we will. You know that.
We all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC.

Sheesh. Another one....

Razd turns and walks back to his rocker on his porch shaking his head in disgust thinking, will they ever learn.................
Raz, do you know how many times I tried to quit before I joined KTC? Do you know if I found accountability and failed before, or whether I've found accountability now? Have you and I EVER interacted on this site before? If we haven't, do you think it's appropriate to assume something about the way I was or the way I am?

In your defense, I orginally put this post on the Sep site and not on the intro page because I wanted to explain to the September Slutes the "why" behind missing post 2 days in a row and the "why" I thought that not posting would be more fair to my quit group. Someone else put it here, so it's not like you went to the Sep quit page and started making assumptions about me.

You have the right, I guess, to make comments on my intro page, but I have the right to retort. My quit is something that is very intimate to me, very important, and that's true both when I'm at this site and away from this site. I know that many of my peers in the Sep group take it personally when there is variation in someone's roll posts, and as a Six Sigma student I understand that concern. However, I also understand that accountability can come from multiple avenues; it's not limited to just a website. I am not on my computer all that often and sometimes go a day or two without getting on, especially during weekends on the farm. If I have a busy Monday hitting the road after a weekend feeding cattle (like I've had the last two weekends and last two Mondays) then often won't get on a computer at all, and when I do I flat-out forget to post roll because I have other email work to catch up on. I do spend time with the local accountability people in my life.

Like I said to the Sep group, I recognize that these are excuses, and I didn't want to be unreliable to them, especially because I knew them better than you know me and knew that the inconsistency would frustrate them. Which is why I suggested that I not post roll in the Sep group. Nobody really argued with that except for one fellow Slute; to be honest, the majority of the responses that I got were about what I got from you. On some level this is a little bit disheartening: here I was, esentially apologizing for missing two days' worth of roll and suggesting that I not post in Sep while simultaneously sharing the fact that I'd found fellow quitters locally, and what I got was a lot of disbelief, some degree of animosity, and a couple "tough guys" who didn't really know me but had no problem making claims about my actions without engaging me on a personal level at any point.

I'm all about the peer pressure. I'm all about the high level of accountability. This website started my quit, helped my quit grow, and I will never quit this website. I will always thank the Duathmans, Dougies, and Derks and will always respect their opinion. But when people start calling out a HOFer without ever talking to them, without listening to what they're saying and just start giving canned responses, there needs to be some self-reflection.

So, in short RazD, I don't know what you mean when you say "we all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC" because I don't know who you refer to when you say "we" and I don't think you know any details about my life, either pre-KTC or post-KTC.
It was around 160 days that I started thinking that I don't need to post. I started missing days, stopped talking with people. Maybe you are better then me, but I caution you...... its a slippery slope. Even at 1000 days I think most of us need to post roll. Even if its only for a 30 second reminder of what we fight for. I like you have tried to quit hundreds of times. Ktc is the only way I have found to be committed. When I start to think I can do it on my own, I fail! I've proven that. I'd rather see you miss a few days and still post then not post at all. Think about it. I can't preach, but this sounds like things I have said to myself. And then failed.
Hey Drizzle, we have not spoken on the site. But I followed your early quit and am sorry to see you go. I am glad that you have some guys that you trust, and accountability beyond the site, etc, etc, etc, BUT.................................you stock definitely went down a bit today. I do not think you have improved your chances of STAYING quit by coming to this conclusion, if fact the opposite is likely true.

Razd wrote about 30-40 words on your thread, it appears that he struck a nerve. So much so that you felt compelled to write a book back in response. That tells me that you know he is probably onto something. The guy has watched more than a few quitters walk the halls of KTC since 2009. I would pay a little head if I were you. There is my 2 cents, even though you didn't ask. Best of luck man.

Ryan
Do you use the internet daily? If so, then you have the 2 minutes or less to login and post roll.

It takes very little time out of a busy day to do. I find the "I'm too busy" excuse to be particularly weak.
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Lots of us are busier than you. Lots of us are not as busy as you.
Who did all of your farm work when you posted roll consectively? ummmm
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No miracles for this brother, just post roll, keep your word, wake and repeat.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #74 on: December 17, 2013, 11:41:00 AM »
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: jake
Quote from: JRizzle
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Dougie
Posting this from the September 13 Page... I bumped Duathman's reply so they are both copied in here- might look a bit confusing!
Quote from: JRizzle
Good Afternoon Slutes,

I realize that I haven't posted since Saturday afternoon and I also realize that up to that point my posting had become more and more erratic.  I haven't caved.  I just have continued to be very busy between my job, the farm, and my dad's health. 

This isn't an excuse.  Perhaps it suffices to say that posting roll has not been a priority for me.  I still have occasional craves and am constantly reminded that I'm an addict.  I also recognize that not posting roll going forward could put me at higher risk for relapse.  But I want to be fair to you all.  Your comraderie has allowed me to quit and stay quit; your accountability has meant the world to me.  If you feel strongly about this, please contact me directly.  But I don't think that it's fair to you all for me to post inconsistently. 

Some of you may call me out and call me a "wimp" or a "pussy" or "non-committal".  But I've proven over the last few weeks that I either cannot or will not post consistently, and if that's the case then I think it's better that I not post at all rather than having me post in a random and infrequent manner.  And so you know, I have several other committments.  I am able to have accountability at a local level with someone who is in a Bible study that I lead, so I'm not going about this alone, and having a "shared experience" with him will be more time efficient for me.


I want to thank you all for all that you've done and I would love to stay in contact with you if you so desire.  Feel free to message me for personal contact information.  If you want to vent or give push-back, feel free to do so; I will still visit the site.  But I don't want to be inconsistent in my commitment to all of you, which is why I think that it would be better for me to not post at all.
Duathman-
Jesse I hope you understand the risk you are taking. Just today I went back and reread what Jake (you do know he caved?) Frawley wrote up about me when he introduced me to the HOF train. One thing stuck out about that intro, "Always remember why you are here and that is because your way of quitting sucked and needed this site." This site brings more accountability and brotherhood than I could ever get from even my wife. See other people have no idea of what we struggle with on a daily basis.

That is why we feel that EDD means so much to us. We understand that we can never forget what our common interest is and we will support each other any and everyway we can. I never think its OK for someone to leave the site, but I really don't care that much when they do.

See I am a caver and right around this time in my "stop" around 180 days last time I caved. I say around 180 days because I quit posting. Back on day 1 again after I decided I never needed this site.

I can be reached anytime you have my digits. Please reach out if you need anything and I pray for you and your family with your dad's health.

NAFAR

Dougie-

Well. I hope I dont see you in a few weeks/months/years posting another day 1... I say weeks, months, and years because I plan on keeping KTC part of my daily ritual. It worked for me day 3 - now, therefore I have to assume that it will keep working for me for years to come.

I am not willing to risk my life to save a couple of minutes each day. Posting roll is the easiest, cheapest, and safest insurance a quitter can get.


Good Luck.
When you were dipping did you have time in your busy schedule to buy a can?

You were very active in KTC and I think I might understand what happened... If you can't be "all in" you feel guilty. Look, if all you can do for a season is put your name and number on one board, that's okay. One day you might get more active again. That little act is okay for a season if that's all you can do.

You can do that. Don't turn your back on your quit. No one will keep you accountable like we will. You know that.
We all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC.

Sheesh. Another one....

Razd turns and walks back to his rocker on his porch shaking his head in disgust thinking, will they ever learn.................
Raz, do you know how many times I tried to quit before I joined KTC? Do you know if I found accountability and failed before, or whether I've found accountability now? Have you and I EVER interacted on this site before? If we haven't, do you think it's appropriate to assume something about the way I was or the way I am?

In your defense, I orginally put this post on the Sep site and not on the intro page because I wanted to explain to the September Slutes the "why" behind missing post 2 days in a row and the "why" I thought that not posting would be more fair to my quit group. Someone else put it here, so it's not like you went to the Sep quit page and started making assumptions about me.

You have the right, I guess, to make comments on my intro page, but I have the right to retort. My quit is something that is very intimate to me, very important, and that's true both when I'm at this site and away from this site. I know that many of my peers in the Sep group take it personally when there is variation in someone's roll posts, and as a Six Sigma student I understand that concern. However, I also understand that accountability can come from multiple avenues; it's not limited to just a website. I am not on my computer all that often and sometimes go a day or two without getting on, especially during weekends on the farm. If I have a busy Monday hitting the road after a weekend feeding cattle (like I've had the last two weekends and last two Mondays) then often won't get on a computer at all, and when I do I flat-out forget to post roll because I have other email work to catch up on. I do spend time with the local accountability people in my life.

Like I said to the Sep group, I recognize that these are excuses, and I didn't want to be unreliable to them, especially because I knew them better than you know me and knew that the inconsistency would frustrate them. Which is why I suggested that I not post roll in the Sep group. Nobody really argued with that except for one fellow Slute; to be honest, the majority of the responses that I got were about what I got from you. On some level this is a little bit disheartening: here I was, esentially apologizing for missing two days' worth of roll and suggesting that I not post in Sep while simultaneously sharing the fact that I'd found fellow quitters locally, and what I got was a lot of disbelief, some degree of animosity, and a couple "tough guys" who didn't really know me but had no problem making claims about my actions without engaging me on a personal level at any point.

I'm all about the peer pressure. I'm all about the high level of accountability. This website started my quit, helped my quit grow, and I will never quit this website. I will always thank the Duathmans, Dougies, and Derks and will always respect their opinion. But when people start calling out a HOFer without ever talking to them, without listening to what they're saying and just start giving canned responses, there needs to be some self-reflection.

So, in short RazD, I don't know what you mean when you say "we all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC" because I don't know who you refer to when you say "we" and I don't think you know any details about my life, either pre-KTC or post-KTC.
It was around 160 days that I started thinking that I don't need to post. I started missing days, stopped talking with people. Maybe you are better then me, but I caution you...... its a slippery slope. Even at 1000 days I think most of us need to post roll. Even if its only for a 30 second reminder of what we fight for. I like you have tried to quit hundreds of times. Ktc is the only way I have found to be committed. When I start to think I can do it on my own, I fail! I've proven that. I'd rather see you miss a few days and still post then not post at all. Think about it. I can't preach, but this sounds like things I have said to myself. And then failed.
Hey Drizzle, we have not spoken on the site. But I followed your early quit and am sorry to see you go. I am glad that you have some guys that you trust, and accountability beyond the site, etc, etc, etc, BUT.................................you stock definitely went down a bit today. I do not think you have improved your chances of STAYING quit by coming to this conclusion, if fact the opposite is likely true.

Razd wrote about 30-40 words on your thread, it appears that he struck a nerve. So much so that you felt compelled to write a book back in response. That tells me that you know he is probably onto something. The guy has watched more than a few quitters walk the halls of KTC since 2009. I would pay a little head if I were you. There is my 2 cents, even though you didn't ask. Best of luck man.

Ryan
Do you use the internet daily? If so, then you have the 2 minutes or less to login and post roll.

It takes very little time out of a busy day to do. I find the "I'm too busy" excuse to be particularly weak.
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HOF date 07/01/2012

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2013, 08:58:00 PM »
Quote from: jake
Quote from: JRizzle
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Dougie
Posting this from the September 13 Page... I bumped Duathman's reply so they are both copied in here- might look a bit confusing!
Quote from: JRizzle
Good Afternoon Slutes,

I realize that I haven't posted since Saturday afternoon and I also realize that up to that point my posting had become more and more erratic.  I haven't caved.  I just have continued to be very busy between my job, the farm, and my dad's health. 

This isn't an excuse.  Perhaps it suffices to say that posting roll has not been a priority for me.  I still have occasional craves and am constantly reminded that I'm an addict.  I also recognize that not posting roll going forward could put me at higher risk for relapse.  But I want to be fair to you all.  Your comraderie has allowed me to quit and stay quit; your accountability has meant the world to me.  If you feel strongly about this, please contact me directly.  But I don't think that it's fair to you all for me to post inconsistently. 

Some of you may call me out and call me a "wimp" or a "pussy" or "non-committal".  But I've proven over the last few weeks that I either cannot or will not post consistently, and if that's the case then I think it's better that I not post at all rather than having me post in a random and infrequent manner.  And so you know, I have several other committments.  I am able to have accountability at a local level with someone who is in a Bible study that I lead, so I'm not going about this alone, and having a "shared experience" with him will be more time efficient for me.


I want to thank you all for all that you've done and I would love to stay in contact with you if you so desire.  Feel free to message me for personal contact information.  If you want to vent or give push-back, feel free to do so; I will still visit the site.  But I don't want to be inconsistent in my commitment to all of you, which is why I think that it would be better for me to not post at all.
Duathman-
Jesse I hope you understand the risk you are taking. Just today I went back and reread what Jake (you do know he caved?) Frawley wrote up about me when he introduced me to the HOF train. One thing stuck out about that intro, "Always remember why you are here and that is because your way of quitting sucked and needed this site." This site brings more accountability and brotherhood than I could ever get from even my wife. See other people have no idea of what we struggle with on a daily basis.

That is why we feel that EDD means so much to us. We understand that we can never forget what our common interest is and we will support each other any and everyway we can. I never think its OK for someone to leave the site, but I really don't care that much when they do.

See I am a caver and right around this time in my "stop" around 180 days last time I caved. I say around 180 days because I quit posting. Back on day 1 again after I decided I never needed this site.

I can be reached anytime you have my digits. Please reach out if you need anything and I pray for you and your family with your dad's health.

NAFAR

Dougie-

Well. I hope I dont see you in a few weeks/months/years posting another day 1... I say weeks, months, and years because I plan on keeping KTC part of my daily ritual. It worked for me day 3 - now, therefore I have to assume that it will keep working for me for years to come.

I am not willing to risk my life to save a couple of minutes each day. Posting roll is the easiest, cheapest, and safest insurance a quitter can get.


Good Luck.
When you were dipping did you have time in your busy schedule to buy a can?

You were very active in KTC and I think I might understand what happened... If you can't be "all in" you feel guilty. Look, if all you can do for a season is put your name and number on one board, that's okay. One day you might get more active again. That little act is okay for a season if that's all you can do.

You can do that. Don't turn your back on your quit. No one will keep you accountable like we will. You know that.
We all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC.

Sheesh. Another one....

Razd turns and walks back to his rocker on his porch shaking his head in disgust thinking, will they ever learn.................
Raz, do you know how many times I tried to quit before I joined KTC? Do you know if I found accountability and failed before, or whether I've found accountability now? Have you and I EVER interacted on this site before? If we haven't, do you think it's appropriate to assume something about the way I was or the way I am?

In your defense, I orginally put this post on the Sep site and not on the intro page because I wanted to explain to the September Slutes the "why" behind missing post 2 days in a row and the "why" I thought that not posting would be more fair to my quit group. Someone else put it here, so it's not like you went to the Sep quit page and started making assumptions about me.

You have the right, I guess, to make comments on my intro page, but I have the right to retort. My quit is something that is very intimate to me, very important, and that's true both when I'm at this site and away from this site. I know that many of my peers in the Sep group take it personally when there is variation in someone's roll posts, and as a Six Sigma student I understand that concern. However, I also understand that accountability can come from multiple avenues; it's not limited to just a website. I am not on my computer all that often and sometimes go a day or two without getting on, especially during weekends on the farm. If I have a busy Monday hitting the road after a weekend feeding cattle (like I've had the last two weekends and last two Mondays) then often won't get on a computer at all, and when I do I flat-out forget to post roll because I have other email work to catch up on. I do spend time with the local accountability people in my life.

Like I said to the Sep group, I recognize that these are excuses, and I didn't want to be unreliable to them, especially because I knew them better than you know me and knew that the inconsistency would frustrate them. Which is why I suggested that I not post roll in the Sep group. Nobody really argued with that except for one fellow Slute; to be honest, the majority of the responses that I got were about what I got from you. On some level this is a little bit disheartening: here I was, esentially apologizing for missing two days' worth of roll and suggesting that I not post in Sep while simultaneously sharing the fact that I'd found fellow quitters locally, and what I got was a lot of disbelief, some degree of animosity, and a couple "tough guys" who didn't really know me but had no problem making claims about my actions without engaging me on a personal level at any point.

I'm all about the peer pressure. I'm all about the high level of accountability. This website started my quit, helped my quit grow, and I will never quit this website. I will always thank the Duathmans, Dougies, and Derks and will always respect their opinion. But when people start calling out a HOFer without ever talking to them, without listening to what they're saying and just start giving canned responses, there needs to be some self-reflection.

So, in short RazD, I don't know what you mean when you say "we all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC" because I don't know who you refer to when you say "we" and I don't think you know any details about my life, either pre-KTC or post-KTC.
It was around 160 days that I started thinking that I don't need to post. I started missing days, stopped talking with people. Maybe you are better then me, but I caution you...... its a slippery slope. Even at 1000 days I think most of us need to post roll. Even if its only for a 30 second reminder of what we fight for. I like you have tried to quit hundreds of times. Ktc is the only way I have found to be committed. When I start to think I can do it on my own, I fail! I've proven that. I'd rather see you miss a few days and still post then not post at all. Think about it. I can't preach, but this sounds like things I have said to myself. And then failed.
Hey Drizzle, we have not spoken on the site. But I followed your early quit and am sorry to see you go. I am glad that you have some guys that you trust, and accountability beyond the site, etc, etc, etc, BUT.................................you stock definitely went down a bit today. I do not think you have improved your chances of STAYING quit by coming to this conclusion, if fact the opposite is likely true.

Razd wrote about 30-40 words on your thread, it appears that he struck a nerve. So much so that you felt compelled to write a book back in response. That tells me that you know he is probably onto something. The guy has watched more than a few quitters walk the halls of KTC since 2009. I would pay a little head if I were you. There is my 2 cents, even though you didn't ask. Best of luck man.

Ryan

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2013, 08:47:00 PM »
Quote from: JRizzle
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Dougie
Posting this from the September 13 Page... I bumped Duathman's reply so they are both copied in here- might look a bit confusing!
Quote from: JRizzle
Good Afternoon Slutes,

I realize that I haven't posted since Saturday afternoon and I also realize that up to that point my posting had become more and more erratic.  I haven't caved.  I just have continued to be very busy between my job, the farm, and my dad's health. 

This isn't an excuse.  Perhaps it suffices to say that posting roll has not been a priority for me.  I still have occasional craves and am constantly reminded that I'm an addict.  I also recognize that not posting roll going forward could put me at higher risk for relapse.  But I want to be fair to you all.  Your comraderie has allowed me to quit and stay quit; your accountability has meant the world to me.  If you feel strongly about this, please contact me directly.  But I don't think that it's fair to you all for me to post inconsistently. 

Some of you may call me out and call me a "wimp" or a "pussy" or "non-committal".  But I've proven over the last few weeks that I either cannot or will not post consistently, and if that's the case then I think it's better that I not post at all rather than having me post in a random and infrequent manner.  And so you know, I have several other committments.  I am able to have accountability at a local level with someone who is in a Bible study that I lead, so I'm not going about this alone, and having a "shared experience" with him will be more time efficient for me.


I want to thank you all for all that you've done and I would love to stay in contact with you if you so desire.  Feel free to message me for personal contact information.  If you want to vent or give push-back, feel free to do so; I will still visit the site.  But I don't want to be inconsistent in my commitment to all of you, which is why I think that it would be better for me to not post at all.
Duathman-
Jesse I hope you understand the risk you are taking. Just today I went back and reread what Jake (you do know he caved?) Frawley wrote up about me when he introduced me to the HOF train. One thing stuck out about that intro, "Always remember why you are here and that is because your way of quitting sucked and needed this site." This site brings more accountability and brotherhood than I could ever get from even my wife. See other people have no idea of what we struggle with on a daily basis.

That is why we feel that EDD means so much to us. We understand that we can never forget what our common interest is and we will support each other any and everyway we can. I never think its OK for someone to leave the site, but I really don't care that much when they do.

See I am a caver and right around this time in my "stop" around 180 days last time I caved. I say around 180 days because I quit posting. Back on day 1 again after I decided I never needed this site.

I can be reached anytime you have my digits. Please reach out if you need anything and I pray for you and your family with your dad's health.

NAFAR

Dougie-

Well. I hope I dont see you in a few weeks/months/years posting another day 1... I say weeks, months, and years because I plan on keeping KTC part of my daily ritual. It worked for me day 3 - now, therefore I have to assume that it will keep working for me for years to come.

I am not willing to risk my life to save a couple of minutes each day. Posting roll is the easiest, cheapest, and safest insurance a quitter can get.


Good Luck.
When you were dipping did you have time in your busy schedule to buy a can?

You were very active in KTC and I think I might understand what happened... If you can't be "all in" you feel guilty. Look, if all you can do for a season is put your name and number on one board, that's okay. One day you might get more active again. That little act is okay for a season if that's all you can do.

You can do that. Don't turn your back on your quit. No one will keep you accountable like we will. You know that.
We all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC.

Sheesh. Another one....

Razd turns and walks back to his rocker on his porch shaking his head in disgust thinking, will they ever learn.................
Raz, do you know how many times I tried to quit before I joined KTC? Do you know if I found accountability and failed before, or whether I've found accountability now? Have you and I EVER interacted on this site before? If we haven't, do you think it's appropriate to assume something about the way I was or the way I am?

In your defense, I orginally put this post on the Sep site and not on the intro page because I wanted to explain to the September Slutes the "why" behind missing post 2 days in a row and the "why" I thought that not posting would be more fair to my quit group. Someone else put it here, so it's not like you went to the Sep quit page and started making assumptions about me.

You have the right, I guess, to make comments on my intro page, but I have the right to retort. My quit is something that is very intimate to me, very important, and that's true both when I'm at this site and away from this site. I know that many of my peers in the Sep group take it personally when there is variation in someone's roll posts, and as a Six Sigma student I understand that concern. However, I also understand that accountability can come from multiple avenues; it's not limited to just a website. I am not on my computer all that often and sometimes go a day or two without getting on, especially during weekends on the farm. If I have a busy Monday hitting the road after a weekend feeding cattle (like I've had the last two weekends and last two Mondays) then often won't get on a computer at all, and when I do I flat-out forget to post roll because I have other email work to catch up on. I do spend time with the local accountability people in my life.

Like I said to the Sep group, I recognize that these are excuses, and I didn't want to be unreliable to them, especially because I knew them better than you know me and knew that the inconsistency would frustrate them. Which is why I suggested that I not post roll in the Sep group. Nobody really argued with that except for one fellow Slute; to be honest, the majority of the responses that I got were about what I got from you. On some level this is a little bit disheartening: here I was, esentially apologizing for missing two days' worth of roll and suggesting that I not post in Sep while simultaneously sharing the fact that I'd found fellow quitters locally, and what I got was a lot of disbelief, some degree of animosity, and a couple "tough guys" who didn't really know me but had no problem making claims about my actions without engaging me on a personal level at any point.

I'm all about the peer pressure. I'm all about the high level of accountability. This website started my quit, helped my quit grow, and I will never quit this website. I will always thank the Duathmans, Dougies, and Derks and will always respect their opinion. But when people start calling out a HOFer without ever talking to them, without listening to what they're saying and just start giving canned responses, there needs to be some self-reflection.

So, in short RazD, I don't know what you mean when you say "we all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC" because I don't know who you refer to when you say "we" and I don't think you know any details about my life, either pre-KTC or post-KTC.
It was around 160 days that I started thinking that I don't need to post. I started missing days, stopped talking with people. Maybe you are better then me, but I caution you...... its a slippery slope. Even at 1000 days I think most of us need to post roll. Even if its only for a 30 second reminder of what we fight for. I like you have tried to quit hundreds of times. Ktc is the only way I have found to be committed. When I start to think I can do it on my own, I fail! I've proven that. I'd rather see you miss a few days and still post then not post at all. Think about it. I can't preach, but this sounds like things I have said to myself. And then failed.

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2013, 08:37:00 PM »
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Posting this from the September 13 Page... I bumped Duathman's reply so they are both copied in here- might look a bit confusing!
Quote from: JRizzle
Good Afternoon Slutes,

I realize that I haven't posted since Saturday afternoon and I also realize that up to that point my posting had become more and more erratic.  I haven't caved.  I just have continued to be very busy between my job, the farm, and my dad's health. 

This isn't an excuse.  Perhaps it suffices to say that posting roll has not been a priority for me.  I still have occasional craves and am constantly reminded that I'm an addict.  I also recognize that not posting roll going forward could put me at higher risk for relapse.  But I want to be fair to you all.  Your comraderie has allowed me to quit and stay quit; your accountability has meant the world to me.  If you feel strongly about this, please contact me directly.  But I don't think that it's fair to you all for me to post inconsistently. 

Some of you may call me out and call me a "wimp" or a "pussy" or "non-committal".  But I've proven over the last few weeks that I either cannot or will not post consistently, and if that's the case then I think it's better that I not post at all rather than having me post in a random and infrequent manner.  And so you know, I have several other committments.  I am able to have accountability at a local level with someone who is in a Bible study that I lead, so I'm not going about this alone, and having a "shared experience" with him will be more time efficient for me.


I want to thank you all for all that you've done and I would love to stay in contact with you if you so desire.  Feel free to message me for personal contact information.  If you want to vent or give push-back, feel free to do so; I will still visit the site.  But I don't want to be inconsistent in my commitment to all of you, which is why I think that it would be better for me to not post at all.
Duathman-
Jesse I hope you understand the risk you are taking. Just today I went back and reread what Jake (you do know he caved?) Frawley wrote up about me when he introduced me to the HOF train. One thing stuck out about that intro, "Always remember why you are here and that is because your way of quitting sucked and needed this site." This site brings more accountability and brotherhood than I could ever get from even my wife. See other people have no idea of what we struggle with on a daily basis.

That is why we feel that EDD means so much to us. We understand that we can never forget what our common interest is and we will support each other any and everyway we can. I never think its OK for someone to leave the site, but I really don't care that much when they do.

See I am a caver and right around this time in my "stop" around 180 days last time I caved. I say around 180 days because I quit posting. Back on day 1 again after I decided I never needed this site.

I can be reached anytime you have my digits. Please reach out if you need anything and I pray for you and your family with your dad's health.

NAFAR

Dougie-

Well. I hope I dont see you in a few weeks/months/years posting another day 1... I say weeks, months, and years because I plan on keeping KTC part of my daily ritual. It worked for me day 3 - now, therefore I have to assume that it will keep working for me for years to come.

I am not willing to risk my life to save a couple of minutes each day. Posting roll is the easiest, cheapest, and safest insurance a quitter can get.


Good Luck.
When you were dipping did you have time in your busy schedule to buy a can?

You were very active in KTC and I think I might understand what happened... If you can't be "all in" you feel guilty. Look, if all you can do for a season is put your name and number on one board, that's okay. One day you might get more active again. That little act is okay for a season if that's all you can do.

You can do that. Don't turn your back on your quit. No one will keep you accountable like we will. You know that.
We all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC.

Sheesh. Another one....

Razd turns and walks back to his rocker on his porch shaking his head in disgust thinking, will they ever learn.................
Raz, do you know how many times I tried to quit before I joined KTC? Do you know if I found accountability and failed before, or whether I've found accountability now? Have you and I EVER interacted on this site before? If we haven't, do you think it's appropriate to assume something about the way I was or the way I am?

In your defense, I orginally put this post on the Sep site and not on the intro page because I wanted to explain to the September Slutes the "why" behind missing post 2 days in a row and the "why" I thought that not posting would be more fair to my quit group. Someone else put it here, so it's not like you went to the Sep quit page and started making assumptions about me.

You have the right, I guess, to make comments on my intro page, but I have the right to retort. My quit is something that is very intimate to me, very important, and that's true both when I'm at this site and away from this site. I know that many of my peers in the Sep group take it personally when there is variation in someone's roll posts, and as a Six Sigma student I understand that concern. However, I also understand that accountability can come from multiple avenues; it's not limited to just a website. I am not on my computer all that often and sometimes go a day or two without getting on, especially during weekends on the farm. If I have a busy Monday hitting the road after a weekend feeding cattle (like I've had the last two weekends and last two Mondays) then often won't get on a computer at all, and when I do I flat-out forget to post roll because I have other email work to catch up on. I do spend time with the local accountability people in my life.

Like I said to the Sep group, I recognize that these are excuses, and I didn't want to be unreliable to them, especially because I knew them better than you know me and knew that the inconsistency would frustrate them. Which is why I suggested that I not post roll in the Sep group. Nobody really argued with that except for one fellow Slute; to be honest, the majority of the responses that I got were about what I got from you. On some level this is a little bit disheartening: here I was, esentially apologizing for missing two days' worth of roll and suggesting that I not post in Sep while simultaneously sharing the fact that I'd found fellow quitters locally, and what I got was a lot of disbelief, some degree of animosity, and a couple "tough guys" who didn't really know me but had no problem making claims about my actions without engaging me on a personal level at any point.

I'm all about the peer pressure. I'm all about the high level of accountability. This website started my quit, helped my quit grow, and I will never quit this website. I will always thank the Duathmans, Dougies, and Derks and will always respect their opinion. But when people start calling out a HOFer without ever talking to them, without listening to what they're saying and just start giving canned responses, there needs to be some self-reflection.

So, in short RazD, I don't know what you mean when you say "we all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC" because I don't know who you refer to when you say "we" and I don't think you know any details about my life, either pre-KTC or post-KTC.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #70 on: December 11, 2013, 07:00:00 PM »
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Dougie
Posting this from the September 13 Page... I bumped Duathman's reply so they are both copied in here- might look a bit confusing!
Quote from: JRizzle
Good Afternoon Slutes,

I realize that I haven't posted since Saturday afternoon and I also realize that up to that point my posting had become more and more erratic.  I haven't caved.  I just have continued to be very busy between my job, the farm, and my dad's health. 

This isn't an excuse.  Perhaps it suffices to say that posting roll has not been a priority for me.  I still have occasional craves and am constantly reminded that I'm an addict.  I also recognize that not posting roll going forward could put me at higher risk for relapse.  But I want to be fair to you all.  Your comraderie has allowed me to quit and stay quit; your accountability has meant the world to me.  If you feel strongly about this, please contact me directly.  But I don't think that it's fair to you all for me to post inconsistently. 

Some of you may call me out and call me a "wimp" or a "pussy" or "non-committal".  But I've proven over the last few weeks that I either cannot or will not post consistently, and if that's the case then I think it's better that I not post at all rather than having me post in a random and infrequent manner.  And so you know, I have several other committments.  I am able to have accountability at a local level with someone who is in a Bible study that I lead, so I'm not going about this alone, and having a "shared experience" with him will be more time efficient for me.


I want to thank you all for all that you've done and I would love to stay in contact with you if you so desire.  Feel free to message me for personal contact information.  If you want to vent or give push-back, feel free to do so; I will still visit the site.  But I don't want to be inconsistent in my commitment to all of you, which is why I think that it would be better for me to not post at all.
Duathman-
Jesse I hope you understand the risk you are taking. Just today I went back and reread what Jake (you do know he caved?) Frawley wrote up about me when he introduced me to the HOF train. One thing stuck out about that intro, "Always remember why you are here and that is because your way of quitting sucked and needed this site." This site brings more accountability and brotherhood than I could ever get from even my wife. See other people have no idea of what we struggle with on a daily basis.

That is why we feel that EDD means so much to us. We understand that we can never forget what our common interest is and we will support each other any and everyway we can. I never think its OK for someone to leave the site, but I really don't care that much when they do.

See I am a caver and right around this time in my "stop" around 180 days last time I caved. I say around 180 days because I quit posting. Back on day 1 again after I decided I never needed this site.

I can be reached anytime you have my digits. Please reach out if you need anything and I pray for you and your family with your dad's health.

NAFAR

Dougie-

Well. I hope I dont see you in a few weeks/months/years posting another day 1... I say weeks, months, and years because I plan on keeping KTC part of my daily ritual. It worked for me day 3 - now, therefore I have to assume that it will keep working for me for years to come.

I am not willing to risk my life to save a couple of minutes each day. Posting roll is the easiest, cheapest, and safest insurance a quitter can get.


Good Luck.
When you were dipping did you have time in your busy schedule to buy a can?

You were very active in KTC and I think I might understand what happened... If you can't be "all in" you feel guilty. Look, if all you can do for a season is put your name and number on one board, that's okay. One day you might get more active again. That little act is okay for a season if that's all you can do.

You can do that. Don't turn your back on your quit. No one will keep you accountable like we will. You know that.
We all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC.

Sheesh. Another one....

Razd turns and walks back to his rocker on his porch shaking his head in disgust thinking, will they ever learn.................
Have a glass of lemonade Razd, I have been thinking the same thing lately....

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2013, 07:00:00 PM »
Jesse i know how it feels to be 180+ days quit and the idea and monotony of KTC is getting old. Myself and many others have learned that no matter what you still have to do some sort of daily accountability to others
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2013, 06:58:00 PM »
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Quote from: Dougie
Posting this from the September 13 Page... I bumped Duathman's reply so they are both copied in here- might look a bit confusing!
Quote from: JRizzle
Good Afternoon Slutes,

I realize that I haven't posted since Saturday afternoon and I also realize that up to that point my posting had become more and more erratic.  I haven't caved.  I just have continued to be very busy between my job, the farm, and my dad's health. 

This isn't an excuse.  Perhaps it suffices to say that posting roll has not been a priority for me.  I still have occasional craves and am constantly reminded that I'm an addict.  I also recognize that not posting roll going forward could put me at higher risk for relapse.  But I want to be fair to you all.  Your comraderie has allowed me to quit and stay quit; your accountability has meant the world to me.  If you feel strongly about this, please contact me directly.  But I don't think that it's fair to you all for me to post inconsistently. 

Some of you may call me out and call me a "wimp" or a "pussy" or "non-committal".  But I've proven over the last few weeks that I either cannot or will not post consistently, and if that's the case then I think it's better that I not post at all rather than having me post in a random and infrequent manner.  And so you know, I have several other committments.  I am able to have accountability at a local level with someone who is in a Bible study that I lead, so I'm not going about this alone, and having a "shared experience" with him will be more time efficient for me.


I want to thank you all for all that you've done and I would love to stay in contact with you if you so desire.  Feel free to message me for personal contact information.  If you want to vent or give push-back, feel free to do so; I will still visit the site.  But I don't want to be inconsistent in my commitment to all of you, which is why I think that it would be better for me to not post at all.
Duathman-
Jesse I hope you understand the risk you are taking. Just today I went back and reread what Jake (you do know he caved?) Frawley wrote up about me when he introduced me to the HOF train. One thing stuck out about that intro, "Always remember why you are here and that is because your way of quitting sucked and needed this site." This site brings more accountability and brotherhood than I could ever get from even my wife. See other people have no idea of what we struggle with on a daily basis.

That is why we feel that EDD means so much to us. We understand that we can never forget what our common interest is and we will support each other any and everyway we can. I never think its OK for someone to leave the site, but I really don't care that much when they do.

See I am a caver and right around this time in my "stop" around 180 days last time I caved. I say around 180 days because I quit posting. Back on day 1 again after I decided I never needed this site.

I can be reached anytime you have my digits. Please reach out if you need anything and I pray for you and your family with your dad's health.

NAFAR

Dougie-

Well. I hope I dont see you in a few weeks/months/years posting another day 1... I say weeks, months, and years because I plan on keeping KTC part of my daily ritual. It worked for me day 3 - now, therefore I have to assume that it will keep working for me for years to come.

I am not willing to risk my life to save a couple of minutes each day. Posting roll is the easiest, cheapest, and safest insurance a quitter can get.


Good Luck.
When you were dipping did you have time in your busy schedule to buy a can?

You were very active in KTC and I think I might understand what happened... If you can't be "all in" you feel guilty. Look, if all you can do for a season is put your name and number on one board, that's okay. One day you might get more active again. That little act is okay for a season if that's all you can do.

You can do that. Don't turn your back on your quit. No one will keep you accountable like we will. You know that.
We all know how well you kept yourself accountable before you found KTC.

Sheesh. Another one....

Razd turns and walks back to his rocker on his porch shaking his head in disgust thinking, will they ever learn.................
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #67 on: December 11, 2013, 06:26:00 PM »
Quote from: Dougie
Posting this from the September 13 Page... I bumped Duathman's reply so they are both copied in here- might look a bit confusing!
Quote from: JRizzle
Good Afternoon Slutes,

I realize that I haven't posted since Saturday afternoon and I also realize that up to that point my posting had become more and more erratic.  I haven't caved.  I just have continued to be very busy between my job, the farm, and my dad's health. 

This isn't an excuse.  Perhaps it suffices to say that posting roll has not been a priority for me.  I still have occasional craves and am constantly reminded that I'm an addict.  I also recognize that not posting roll going forward could put me at higher risk for relapse.  But I want to be fair to you all.  Your comraderie has allowed me to quit and stay quit; your accountability has meant the world to me.  If you feel strongly about this, please contact me directly.  But I don't think that it's fair to you all for me to post inconsistently. 

Some of you may call me out and call me a "wimp" or a "pussy" or "non-committal".  But I've proven over the last few weeks that I either cannot or will not post consistently, and if that's the case then I think it's better that I not post at all rather than having me post in a random and infrequent manner.  And so you know, I have several other committments.  I am able to have accountability at a local level with someone who is in a Bible study that I lead, so I'm not going about this alone, and having a "shared experience" with him will be more time efficient for me.


I want to thank you all for all that you've done and I would love to stay in contact with you if you so desire.  Feel free to message me for personal contact information.  If you want to vent or give push-back, feel free to do so; I will still visit the site.  But I don't want to be inconsistent in my commitment to all of you, which is why I think that it would be better for me to not post at all.
Duathman-
Jesse I hope you understand the risk you are taking. Just today I went back and reread what Jake (you do know he caved?) Frawley wrote up about me when he introduced me to the HOF train. One thing stuck out about that intro, "Always remember why you are here and that is because your way of quitting sucked and needed this site." This site brings more accountability and brotherhood than I could ever get from even my wife. See other people have no idea of what we struggle with on a daily basis.

That is why we feel that EDD means so much to us. We understand that we can never forget what our common interest is and we will support each other any and everyway we can. I never think its OK for someone to leave the site, but I really don't care that much when they do.

See I am a caver and right around this time in my "stop" around 180 days last time I caved. I say around 180 days because I quit posting. Back on day 1 again after I decided I never needed this site.

I can be reached anytime you have my digits. Please reach out if you need anything and I pray for you and your family with your dad's health.

NAFAR

Dougie-

Well. I hope I dont see you in a few weeks/months/years posting another day 1... I say weeks, months, and years because I plan on keeping KTC part of my daily ritual. It worked for me day 3 - now, therefore I have to assume that it will keep working for me for years to come.

I am not willing to risk my life to save a couple of minutes each day. Posting roll is the easiest, cheapest, and safest insurance a quitter can get.


Good Luck.
When you were dipping did you have time in your busy schedule to buy a can?

You were very active in KTC and I think I might understand what happened... If you can't be "all in" you feel guilty. Look, if all you can do for a season is put your name and number on one board, that's okay. One day you might get more active again. That little act is okay for a season if that's all you can do.

You can do that. Don't turn your back on your quit. No one will keep you accountable like we will. You know that.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2013, 06:16:00 PM »
Posting this from the September 13 Page... I bumped Duathman's reply so they are both copied in here- might look a bit confusing!
Quote from: JRizzle
Good Afternoon Slutes,

I realize that I haven't posted since Saturday afternoon and I also realize that up to that point my posting had become more and more erratic.  I haven't caved.  I just have continued to be very busy between my job, the farm, and my dad's health. 

This isn't an excuse.  Perhaps it suffices to say that posting roll has not been a priority for me.  I still have occasional craves and am constantly reminded that I'm an addict.  I also recognize that not posting roll going forward could put me at higher risk for relapse.  But I want to be fair to you all.  Your comraderie has allowed me to quit and stay quit; your accountability has meant the world to me.  If you feel strongly about this, please contact me directly.  But I don't think that it's fair to you all for me to post inconsistently. 

Some of you may call me out and call me a "wimp" or a "pussy" or "non-committal".  But I've proven over the last few weeks that I either cannot or will not post consistently, and if that's the case then I think it's better that I not post at all rather than having me post in a random and infrequent manner.  And so you know, I have several other committments.  I am able to have accountability at a local level with someone who is in a Bible study that I lead, so I'm not going about this alone, and having a "shared experience" with him will be more time efficient for me.


I want to thank you all for all that you've done and I would love to stay in contact with you if you so desire.  Feel free to message me for personal contact information.  If you want to vent or give push-back, feel free to do so; I will still visit the site.  But I don't want to be inconsistent in my commitment to all of you, which is why I think that it would be better for me to not post at all.
Duathman-
Jesse I hope you understand the risk you are taking. Just today I went back and reread what Jake (you do know he caved?) Frawley wrote up about me when he introduced me to the HOF train. One thing stuck out about that intro, "Always remember why you are here and that is because your way of quitting sucked and needed this site." This site brings more accountability and brotherhood than I could ever get from even my wife. See other people have no idea of what we struggle with on a daily basis.

That is why we feel that EDD means so much to us. We understand that we can never forget what our common interest is and we will support each other any and everyway we can. I never think its OK for someone to leave the site, but I really don't care that much when they do.

See I am a caver and right around this time in my "stop" around 180 days last time I caved. I say around 180 days because I quit posting. Back on day 1 again after I decided I never needed this site.

I can be reached anytime you have my digits. Please reach out if you need anything and I pray for you and your family with your dad's health.

NAFAR

Dougie-

Well. I hope I dont see you in a few weeks/months/years posting another day 1... I say weeks, months, and years because I plan on keeping KTC part of my daily ritual. It worked for me day 3 - now, therefore I have to assume that it will keep working for me for years to come.

I am not willing to risk my life to save a couple of minutes each day. Posting roll is the easiest, cheapest, and safest insurance a quitter can get.


Good Luck.

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2013, 11:55:00 PM »
QUOTE:
Thank you all for your support, and my apologies for taking this long for acknowledging your support in this thread. You have all been such blessings in my life, as has this site, and I continually thank God for the opportunity to be sharpened by other iron, so to speak.

Mid-summer my participation on this website became limited to posting roll. There are a few reasons for this. First, I got a great new job that is awesome, but it demands a large portion of my time. I'm in front of customers a lot now instead of computers, and the limited computer time I have is generally spent completing office-related tasks necessary for my customers.

Second, my dad's health has continued to deteriorate throughout the summer, and what free time I have becomes more and more devoted to farm-related activities and trying to enjoy what time we have left together.

Finally, a sibling of mine is going through severe marital trouble, and this has required my involvement.

I can't help but get sentimental at times, and this website can definitely be a catalyst in that direction. 100+ days ago seems like eons. I remember being scared out of my mind when I started to quit. My world was changing, and my dad's health and the new job added to that change. For almost 6 weeks I didn't know what to do with myself, looking back on it, and even though I wasn't always craving a dip I recognized that a significant part of my life had ceased to be. It was liberating, exhilarating, stressful, and formative.

(For any newbies reading this post, I encourage you to work out, diet, etc. etc. during your initial days/weeks of quit, because as your neural system rewires itself you will unknowingly go through changes both physical and mental that will start to form the foundation of your post-quit self. Personally, I have definitely noticed a change in my metabolism since quitting. Unquestionably worth it.)

It can become easy to forget just how addicted I was to chew. Every now and then I remember it, and I still have the occasional dip dream or crave, but it's amazing that something that I, for 12 years, perceived to be a vital part of my day-to-day activities, that thought was absolutely necessary for my functionality and even survival, could be such a trivial thing. Maybe "trivial" is the wrong word. It cost me tens of thousands of dollars, put me at a significantly higher risk for cancer and other diseases, and in general dictated a lot of my "distracted" actions. But it was trivial in the sense that it was completely unnecessary and, once forgone, didn't seem near as powerful or demonizing as I once thought it was.

I'm still an addict. I always will be. Those words sucked when I first recognized them 3 years ago and first tried to quit. At the beginning of my quit they kinda sucked too. But one of the greatest things has happened to me: I'm honest with myself. Ultimately I think I started to self-evaluate and admit my addiction about two years ago, which was a vital prequel to my eventual cessation, but once you actually go through the quit process you become able to really speak truthfully to yourself and others. You've recognized the enemy (yourself) and you've overcome them.

My addictive nature will remain my enemy for the rest of my life. You can't go through something like 12 years of addiction and expect it to not have an impact on the rest of your life. But the impact isn't necessarily negative. Given the choice again, I probably would have chosen not to ever start chewing. But through the quit process I've learned a lot about myself. I've also learned a lot about others and learned to embrace people where they are rather than constantly judge them. I've learned about my strengths and also my limitations and learned about how much I'm capable of. And I've gotten to meet some great people through this process.

100 days is just the start. And it will be a journey best taken one day at a time. But along the journey it's important to have moments of reflection and clarity. So I encourage all you quitters out there, whether newbies or seasoned vets. Remember that it's never worth it. I was as addicted as anyone on this site. Chewing tobacco OWNED my life. And over these last 100+ days I've had as many reasons to cave as any. I switched to a job that consists largely of a big trigger of mine (driving) and have had serious change in my life in my career as well as stress with family issues, the purchase of farm land, sibling issues, etc. It would have been very justifiable, in an addict's mind, to revert to an old familiar "habit" in these circumstances. But going through them dip-free was much more liberating, much more formative, much better. I experienced the events for what they were and at face value rather than self-medicating with dip. When I cried with my dad over disappointing test results, I didn't have to think about throwing out a salty dip. When I had the thrill of meeting a new customer, I didn't have to excuse myself to the bathroom to throw in a dip after dinner. When I saw a beautiful Midwest sunset I didn't have to hurry up to the next town to get a can of chew before the gas station closed.

In short, in the last 100+ days I've discovered chewing tobacco never treated me so well that I should regret leaving it behind. I encourage us all to have an appropriate amount of hatred for addiction and all the harm that it causes and for the rest of our hearts to be filled with the hope and satisfaction that exists when we no longer use addiction to fulfill whatever fundamental yearnings we have. There are far, far greater, beautiful, awesome things ahead of us than the broken, twisted, depraved path we leave behind.

That's enough of my novel. Thank you to all on this site for the encouragement and accountability.

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That was awesome, introspective and a must read for newbies. Think that one should go to the HOF.

Proud of you JRiz - continued success with your quit,  new job.
Will keep your Dad and sibling in my prayers
God Bless

Flynnie

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #64 on: September 21, 2013, 11:30:00 AM »
Thanks for the post brother! Congrats on your milestone. You are a quitting machine and I am proud to be quit with you today.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #63 on: September 21, 2013, 11:01:00 AM »
Always good stuff on your intro JRizzle, and this was awesome stuff. You pay it forward and back all the time. Congrates on 100+ of freedom, and I am glad to be quit with you EDD.

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« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2013, 10:47:00 AM »
Now that was one hell of a quit post. Congrats on hitting the Hall and thank you for posting your story and sharing your quit with us. You had a lot of things happen to you over the past 100 days but you kept your word. No tobacco. Well done bro. Well done.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2013, 12:27:00 AM »
Thank you all for your support, and my apologies for taking this long for acknowledging your support in this thread. You have all been such blessings in my life, as has this site, and I continually thank God for the opportunity to be sharpened by other iron, so to speak.

Mid-summer my participation on this website became limited to posting roll. There are a few reasons for this. First, I got a great new job that is awesome, but it demands a large portion of my time. I'm in front of customers a lot now instead of computers, and the limited computer time I have is generally spent completing office-related tasks necessary for my customers.

Second, my dad's health has continued to deteriorate throughout the summer, and what free time I have becomes more and more devoted to farm-related activities and trying to enjoy what time we have left together.

Finally, a sibling of mine is going through severe marital trouble, and this has required my involvement.

I can't help but get sentimental at times, and this website can definitely be a catalyst in that direction. 100+ days ago seems like eons. I remember being scared out of my mind when I started to quit. My world was changing, and my dad's health and the new job added to that change. For almost 6 weeks I didn't know what to do with myself, looking back on it, and even though I wasn't always craving a dip I recognized that a significant part of my life had ceased to be. It was liberating, exhilarating, stressful, and formative.

(For any newbies reading this post, I encourage you to work out, diet, etc. etc. during your initial days/weeks of quit, because as your neural system rewires itself you will unknowingly go through changes both physical and mental that will start to form the foundation of your post-quit self. Personally, I have definitely noticed a change in my metabolism since quitting. Unquestionably worth it.)

It can become easy to forget just how addicted I was to chew. Every now and then I remember it, and I still have the occasional dip dream or crave, but it's amazing that something that I, for 12 years, perceived to be a vital part of my day-to-day activities, that thought was absolutely necessary for my functionality and even survival, could be such a trivial thing. Maybe "trivial" is the wrong word. It cost me tens of thousands of dollars, put me at a significantly higher risk for cancer and other diseases, and in general dictated a lot of my "distracted" actions. But it was trivial in the sense that it was completely unnecessary and, once forgone, didn't seem near as powerful or demonizing as I once thought it was.

I'm still an addict. I always will be. Those words sucked when I first recognized them 3 years ago and first tried to quit. At the beginning of my quit they kinda sucked too. But one of the greatest things has happened to me: I'm honest with myself. Ultimately I think I started to self-evaluate and admit my addiction about two years ago, which was a vital prequel to my eventual cessation, but once you actually go through the quit process you become able to really speak truthfully to yourself and others. You've recognized the enemy (yourself) and you've overcome them.

My addictive nature will remain my enemy for the rest of my life. You can't go through something like 12 years of addiction and expect it to not have an impact on the rest of your life. But the impact isn't necessarily negative. Given the choice again, I probably would have chosen not to ever start chewing. But through the quit process I've learned a lot about myself. I've also learned a lot about others and learned to embrace people where they are rather than constantly judge them. I've learned about my strengths and also my limitations and learned about how much I'm capable of. And I've gotten to meet some great people through this process.

100 days is just the start. And it will be a journey best taken one day at a time. But along the journey it's important to have moments of reflection and clarity. So I encourage all you quitters out there, whether newbies or seasoned vets. Remember that it's never worth it. I was as addicted as anyone on this site. Chewing tobacco OWNED my life. And over these last 100+ days I've had as many reasons to cave as any. I switched to a job that consists largely of a big trigger of mine (driving) and have had serious change in my life in my career as well as stress with family issues, the purchase of farm land, sibling issues, etc. It would have been very justifiable, in an addict's mind, to revert to an old familiar "habit" in these circumstances. But going through them dip-free was much more liberating, much more formative, much better. I experienced the events for what they were and at face value rather than self-medicating with dip. When I cried with my dad over disappointing test results, I didn't have to think about throwing out a salty dip. When I had the thrill of meeting a new customer, I didn't have to excuse myself to the bathroom to throw in a dip after dinner. When I saw a beautiful Midwest sunset I didn't have to hurry up to the next town to get a can of chew before the gas station closed.

In short, in the last 100+ days I've discovered chewing tobacco never treated me so well that I should regret leaving it behind. I encourage us all to have an appropriate amount of hatred for addiction and all the harm that it causes and for the rest of our hearts to be filled with the hope and satisfaction that exists when we no longer use addiction to fulfill whatever fundamental yearnings we have. There are far, far greater, beautiful, awesome things ahead of us than the broken, twisted, depraved path we leave behind.

That's enough of my novel. Thank you to all on this site for the encouragement and accountability.
We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

Has tobacco been so kind to you that you should leave it with regret? There are far better things ahead than any we leave behind.

Come join us. Come be quit with us. Rather than slowly commit suicide, slowly regain your health. It might hurt at first, but it won't kill you. And once the birthing process is done you'll find yourself a free man. With friends. And health. And wealth. Come drink at the fountain of quit.