My real quit

[worktowin]

KTC Community - One of our own from August quit group was in a single car crash in Oregon. Littlelebowski was airlifted to a nearby hospital and has been in a coma since last Wed. LL and his wife had their first kid 12 days prior. Lots of upheaval and uncertainty in their world and lots of unknown costs. If you would like to contribute to John and Annie, please see paypal instructions below. Collectively our $5, $10, whatever amount you contribute will go a long way. Conbud has already printed the vortex of well wishes and sent to his home address with a KTC Quit On shirt.

LL Current status: John is doing well. They turned down his sedation today to try and wake him up. Apparently it can take a while for the drugs to clear his system so he hasn't woken up yet. Hopefully tomorrow. The last CT of his head looked really good. His lungs are still very bruised so he will not be off the ventilator as soon as we had originally thought. But the lungs will heal, it just takes time. Hope that helps. Thanks again to the KTC community for all the support.

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What this site is really about.

[Thumblewort]

KTC Community - One of our own from August quit group was in a single car crash in Oregon. Littlelebowski was airlifted to a nearby hospital and has been in a coma since last Wed. LL and his wife had their first kid 12 days prior. Lots of upheaval and uncertainty in their world and lots of unknown costs. If you would like to contribute to John and Annie, please see paypal instructions below. Collectively our $5, $10, whatever amount you contribute will go a long way. Conbud has already printed the vortex of well wishes and sent to his home address with a KTC Quit On shirt.

LL Current status: John is doing well. They turned down his sedation today to try and wake him up. Apparently it can take a while for the drugs to clear his system so he hasn't woken up yet. Hopefully tomorrow. The last CT of his head looked really good. His lungs are still very bruised so he will not be off the ventilator as soon as we had originally thought. But the lungs will heal, it just takes time. Hope that helps. Thanks again to the KTC community for all the support.

Paypal Instructions to donate:
Go to Paypal.
1. Type the following for Annie's email: baumannas@gmail.com
2. Type the amount to donate, then click CONTINUE.
3. Complete the information for billing, contact info, and password. You need to have/create a PayPal account, but you can either delete or not use it in the future, then select the AGREE AND SETUP ACCOUNT button.
4. You will then be on the review page where you can add a special note at the bottom (optional). Once reviewed, click the SEND MONEY button.

Let's do what we can to keep this one at the top of the intros, thanks.

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[Done4Me]

KTC Community - One of our own from August quit group was in a single car crash in Oregon. Littlelebowski was airlifted to a nearby hospital and has been in a coma since last Wed. LL and his wife had their first kid 12 days prior. Lots of upheaval and uncertainty in their world and lots of unknown costs. If you would like to contribute to John and Annie, please see paypal instructions below. Collectively our $5, $10, whatever amount you contribute will go a long way. Conbud has already printed the vortex of well wishes and sent to his home address with a KTC Quit On shirt.

LL Current status: John is doing well. They turned down his sedation today to try and wake him up. Apparently it can take a while for the drugs to clear his system so he hasn't woken up yet. Hopefully tomorrow. The last CT of his head looked really good. His lungs are still very bruised so he will not be off the ventilator as soon as we had originally thought. But the lungs will heal, it just takes time. Hope that helps. Thanks again to the KTC community for all the support.

Paypal Instructions to donate:
Go to Paypal.
1. Type the following for Annie's email: baumannas@gmail.com
2. Type the amount to donate, then click CONTINUE.
3. Complete the information for billing, contact info, and password. You need to have/create a PayPal account, but you can either delete or not use it in the future, then select the AGREE AND SETUP ACCOUNT button.
4. You will then be on the review page where you can add a special note at the bottom (optional). Once reviewed, click the SEND MONEY button.

Let's do what we can to keep this one at the top of the intros, thanks.

[Diesel2112]

What happened - my other addiction (alcohol) got the best of me and I decided it was a good idea to go grab a dip, I actually didn't remember it until the next morning, which sort of sent me into a downward spiral from there.

To be successful at quitting dip, I had to quit drinking as well. I'm giving it a 60 day window on the beers so around July 4th I'll be ripe for celebrating. Not sure if you are doing the same but highly recommended. Tends to help you actually keep your word. Welcome to August quit.

Agree with this 100%. Drinking is a big trigger for nearly all of us. If you're serious about your quit, you'd be smart to cut way back on the drinking until you've got some legs under your quit. Otherwise you're going to fall right back into the same trap again.

And while I'm at it... You yourself said that your "other addiction alcohol" got the best of you. I'm no saint so take this for what it's worth, but if you've identified that as an issue, perhaps you should be quitting that one too? We've got an Alcohol Quit Group here topic/1003099/ with some BAD ASS alcohol quitters that can help you.

Post roll... mean it... stick to it. Stop "trying". Fucking do it.

chewie

Disagree 100%. Being sober doesn't help you keep your word, being honest does.
If you have a drinking problem, go fucking deal with it somewhere else. This isn't AA, (thank the higher power).
You didn't chew because you were blacked out, you decided that you were blacked out enough to use it as an excuse to be weak.
If you were a man, you would just admit that you weren't ready to be quit yet.
Are you now?

Not sure why you kinda took a shit all over Chewie's advice Lipp. In this situation your quite wrong, alcohol affects our judgement and highly encouraged to be cautious when drinking early on in your quit. I personally do not understand the mindset of quitters that feel the need to get shitfaced and endanger their quit but to say alcohol itself isn't a danger is not true. It may still be a punk ass excuse to blow your quit, but many a cave can be attributed to an irresponsible bender.

Your statement to "go fucking deal with it somewhere else" ? As Chewie stated there is an alcohol quit and slow down groups here on the site. I'm all for taking the hard line and letting a caver know that excuses don't fly, but your just being an asshole in my opinion and not very helpful. Chewie's post was helpful and at the same time says, sack up and do it.

Riiight. Nobody's ever done anything dumb under the influence of alcohol. It doesn't impare your decision making at all.

Fat chicks wouldn't get laid if not for alcohol. Ever heard of the term, "beer goggles"? He'll I once took a dump in a shoebox because I was wasted.

If you don't think staying sober will help you keep your word, especially until you get your quit bearings, then you're not only a Jack Pole, then you've never read any of the cave stories on this site. A high percentage of them involve alcohol.

Does that make it ok? Absolutely not, but let's use some common sense here.

And my God, if my man's got an alcohol problem, and there are means on ktc to help, why not check them out?

I think you were wearing your dunce cap, when you came up with this retort, Lipi.

Yeah that post got away from me a bit. You know why? I was wasted. Somehow I got hammered and didn't cave.
I get sick of seeing people use alcohol as an excuse to cave. It is especially offensive and irritating to me when I have had a few too many drinks.
Somehow people manage to drink without making bad decisions like robbing a bank while they are wasted. How do they do that? Their judgement has been compromised! Seems like we would all be out robbing banks and murdering people while we are wasted, right? Cause we are powerless over our decision making process when we are wasted.
Anyway, didn't mean to offend chewie, just expressed myself poorly.
Dudes who cave after drinking are pussies.
Dudes who think they are alcoholics should go to AA.
None of my business though, I won't be mingling much anymore.

Robbing banks and killing people vs popping in a dip. Pretty big stretch, don't ya think?

You must be a spokesman for alcohol, you're very defensive of it. If I remember correctly, early in your quit, some people advised you to watch your alcohol intake and you went ape shit then, too.

It's just a suggestion for crying out loud, and another tool some (obviously not you), might find helpful.

Exercise, try fake, chew seeds, chew gum, suck on atomic fire balls, watch the alcohol....DING DING DING, lippo goes bananas.

I don't get it. Its just a suggestion.

Mexican food used to make me want to chew like a mother fucker. So when I first quit...I stayed away from it for awhile, because I thought it would improve my odds. Seemed like a smart move to me at the time...

Whatever you got to do to get your quit going, do it, littlebowski. Obviously your first "attempt" blew ass. Don't be doosh and make the same mistakes, twice.

[Lipizzaner]

What happened - my other addiction (alcohol) got the best of me and I decided it was a good idea to go grab a dip, I actually didn't remember it until the next morning, which sort of sent me into a downward spiral from there.

To be successful at quitting dip, I had to quit drinking as well. I'm giving it a 60 day window on the beers so around July 4th I'll be ripe for celebrating. Not sure if you are doing the same but highly recommended. Tends to help you actually keep your word. Welcome to August quit.

Agree with this 100%. Drinking is a big trigger for nearly all of us. If you're serious about your quit, you'd be smart to cut way back on the drinking until you've got some legs under your quit. Otherwise you're going to fall right back into the same trap again.

And while I'm at it... You yourself said that your "other addiction alcohol" got the best of you. I'm no saint so take this for what it's worth, but if you've identified that as an issue, perhaps you should be quitting that one too? We've got an Alcohol Quit Group here topic/1003099/ with some BAD ASS alcohol quitters that can help you.

Post roll... mean it... stick to it. Stop "trying". Fucking do it.

chewie

Disagree 100%. Being sober doesn't help you keep your word, being honest does.
If you have a drinking problem, go fucking deal with it somewhere else. This isn't AA, (thank the higher power).
You didn't chew because you were blacked out, you decided that you were blacked out enough to use it as an excuse to be weak.
If you were a man, you would just admit that you weren't ready to be quit yet.
Are you now?

Not sure why you kinda took a shit all over Chewie's advice Lipp. In this situation your quite wrong, alcohol affects our judgement and highly encouraged to be cautious when drinking early on in your quit. I personally do not understand the mindset of quitters that feel the need to get shitfaced and endanger their quit but to say alcohol itself isn't a danger is not true. It may still be a punk ass excuse to blow your quit, but many a cave can be attributed to an irresponsible bender.

Your statement to "go fucking deal with it somewhere else" ? As Chewie stated there is an alcohol quit and slow down groups here on the site. I'm all for taking the hard line and letting a caver know that excuses don't fly, but your just being an asshole in my opinion and not very helpful. Chewie's post was helpful and at the same time says, sack up and do it.

Riiight. Nobody's ever done anything dumb under the influence of alcohol. It doesn't impare your decision making at all.

Fat chicks wouldn't get laid if not for alcohol. Ever heard of the term, "beer goggles"? He'll I once took a dump in a shoebox because I was wasted.

If you don't think staying sober will help you keep your word, especially until you get your quit bearings, then you're not only a Jack Pole, then you've never read any of the cave stories on this site. A high percentage of them involve alcohol.

Does that make it ok? Absolutely not, but let's use some common sense here.

And my God, if my man's got an alcohol problem, and there are means on ktc to help, why not check them out?

I think you were wearing your dunce cap, when you came up with this retort, Lipi.

Yeah that post got away from me a bit. You know why? I was wasted. Somehow I got hammered and didn't cave.
I get sick of seeing people use alcohol as an excuse to cave. It is especially offensive and irritating to me when I have had a few too many drinks.
Somehow people manage to drink without making bad decisions like robbing a bank while they are wasted. How do they do that? Their judgement has been compromised! Seems like we would all be out robbing banks and murdering people while we are wasted, right? Cause we are powerless over our decision making process when we are wasted.
Anyway, didn't mean to offend chewie, just expressed myself poorly.
Dudes who cave after drinking are pussies.
Dudes who think they are alcoholics should go to AA.
None of my business though, I won't be mingling much anymore.

[Diesel2112]

What happened - my other addiction (alcohol) got the best of me and I decided it was a good idea to go grab a dip, I actually didn't remember it until the next morning, which sort of sent me into a downward spiral from there.

To be successful at quitting dip, I had to quit drinking as well. I'm giving it a 60 day window on the beers so around July 4th I'll be ripe for celebrating. Not sure if you are doing the same but highly recommended. Tends to help you actually keep your word. Welcome to August quit.

Agree with this 100%. Drinking is a big trigger for nearly all of us. If you're serious about your quit, you'd be smart to cut way back on the drinking until you've got some legs under your quit. Otherwise you're going to fall right back into the same trap again.

And while I'm at it... You yourself said that your "other addiction alcohol" got the best of you. I'm no saint so take this for what it's worth, but if you've identified that as an issue, perhaps you should be quitting that one too? We've got an Alcohol Quit Group here topic/1003099/ with some BAD ASS alcohol quitters that can help you.

Post roll... mean it... stick to it. Stop "trying". Fucking do it.

chewie

Disagree 100%. Being sober doesn't help you keep your word, being honest does.
If you have a drinking problem, go fucking deal with it somewhere else. This isn't AA, (thank the higher power).
You didn't chew because you were blacked out, you decided that you were blacked out enough to use it as an excuse to be weak.
If you were a man, you would just admit that you weren't ready to be quit yet.
Are you now?

Not sure why you kinda took a shit all over Chewie's advice Lipp. In this situation your quite wrong, alcohol affects our judgement and highly encouraged to be cautious when drinking early on in your quit. I personally do not understand the mindset of quitters that feel the need to get shitfaced and endanger their quit but to say alcohol itself isn't a danger is not true. It may still be a punk ass excuse to blow your quit, but many a cave can be attributed to an irresponsible bender.

Your statement to "go fucking deal with it somewhere else" ? As Chewie stated there is an alcohol quit and slow down groups here on the site. I'm all for taking the hard line and letting a caver know that excuses don't fly, but your just being an asshole in my opinion and not very helpful. Chewie's post was helpful and at the same time says, sack up and do it.

Riiight. Nobody's ever done anything dumb under the influence of alcohol. It doesn't impare your decision making at all.

Fat chicks wouldn't get laid if not for alcohol. Ever heard of the term, "beer goggles"? He'll I once took a dump in a shoebox because I was wasted.

If you don't think staying sober will help you keep your word, especially until you get your quit bearings, then you're not only a Jack Pole, then you've never read any of the cave stories on this site. A high percentage of them involve alcohol.

Does that make it ok? Absolutely not, but let's use some common sense here.

And my God, if my man's got an alcohol problem, and there are means on ktc to help, why not check them out?

I think you were wearing your dunce cap, when you came up with this retort, Lipi.

[Jlud007]

What happened - my other addiction (alcohol) got the best of me and I decided it was a good idea to go grab a dip, I actually didn't remember it until the next morning, which sort of sent me into a downward spiral from there.

To be successful at quitting dip, I had to quit drinking as well. I'm giving it a 60 day window on the beers so around July 4th I'll be ripe for celebrating. Not sure if you are doing the same but highly recommended. Tends to help you actually keep your word. Welcome to August quit.

Agree with this 100%. Drinking is a big trigger for nearly all of us. If you're serious about your quit, you'd be smart to cut way back on the drinking until you've got some legs under your quit. Otherwise you're going to fall right back into the same trap again.

And while I'm at it... You yourself said that your "other addiction alcohol" got the best of you. I'm no saint so take this for what it's worth, but if you've identified that as an issue, perhaps you should be quitting that one too? We've got an Alcohol Quit Group here topic/1003099/ with some BAD ASS alcohol quitters that can help you.

Post roll... mean it... stick to it. Stop "trying". Fucking do it.

chewie

Disagree 100%. Being sober doesn't help you keep your word, being honest does.
If you have a drinking problem, go fucking deal with it somewhere else. This isn't AA, (thank the higher power).
You didn't chew because you were blacked out, you decided that you were blacked out enough to use it as an excuse to be weak.
If you were a man, you would just admit that you weren't ready to be quit yet.
Are you now?

Not sure why you kinda took a shit all over Chewie's advice Lipp. In this situation your quite wrong, alcohol affects our judgement and highly encouraged to be cautious when drinking early on in your quit. I personally do not understand the mindset of quitters that feel the need to get shitfaced and endanger their quit but to say alcohol itself isn't a danger is not true. It may still be a punk ass excuse to blow your quit, but many a cave can be attributed to an irresponsible bender.

Your statement to "go fucking deal with it somewhere else" ? As Chewie stated there is an alcohol quit and slow down groups here on the site. I'm all for taking the hard line and letting a caver know that excuses don't fly, but your just being an asshole in my opinion and not very helpful. Chewie's post was helpful and at the same time says, sack up and do it.

[Lipizzaner]

What happened - my other addiction (alcohol) got the best of me and I decided it was a good idea to go grab a dip, I actually didn't remember it until the next morning, which sort of sent me into a downward spiral from there.

To be successful at quitting dip, I had to quit drinking as well. I'm giving it a 60 day window on the beers so around July 4th I'll be ripe for celebrating. Not sure if you are doing the same but highly recommended. Tends to help you actually keep your word. Welcome to August quit.

Agree with this 100%. Drinking is a big trigger for nearly all of us. If you're serious about your quit, you'd be smart to cut way back on the drinking until you've got some legs under your quit. Otherwise you're going to fall right back into the same trap again.

And while I'm at it... You yourself said that your "other addiction alcohol" got the best of you. I'm no saint so take this for what it's worth, but if you've identified that as an issue, perhaps you should be quitting that one too? We've got an Alcohol Quit Group here topic/1003099/ with some BAD ASS alcohol quitters that can help you.

Post roll... mean it... stick to it. Stop "trying". Fucking do it.

chewie

Disagree 100%. Being sober doesn't help you keep your word, being honest does.
If you have a drinking problem, go fucking deal with it somewhere else. This isn't AA, (thank the higher power).
You didn't chew because you were blacked out, you decided that you were blacked out enough to use it as an excuse to be weak.
If you were a man, you would just admit that you weren't ready to be quit yet.
Are you now?

[chewie]

What happened - my other addiction (alcohol) got the best of me and I decided it was a good idea to go grab a dip, I actually didn't remember it until the next morning, which sort of sent me into a downward spiral from there.

To be successful at quitting dip, I had to quit drinking as well. I'm giving it a 60 day window on the beers so around July 4th I'll be ripe for celebrating. Not sure if you are doing the same but highly recommended. Tends to help you actually keep your word. Welcome to August quit.

Agree with this 100%. Drinking is a big trigger for nearly all of us. If you're serious about your quit, you'd be smart to cut way back on the drinking until you've got some legs under your quit. Otherwise you're going to fall right back into the same trap again.

And while I'm at it... You yourself said that your "other addiction alcohol" got the best of you. I'm no saint so take this for what it's worth, but if you've identified that as an issue, perhaps you should be quitting that one too? We've got an Alcohol Quit Group here topic/1003099/ with some BAD ASS alcohol quitters that can help you.

Post roll... mean it... stick to it. Stop "trying". Fucking do it.

chewie

[Done4Me]

What happened - my other addiction (alcohol) got the best of me and I decided it was a good idea to go grab a dip, I actually didn't remember it until the next morning, which sort of sent me into a downward spiral from there.

To be successful at quitting dip, I had to quit drinking as well. I'm giving it a 60 day window on the beers so around July 4th I'll be ripe for celebrating. Not sure if you are doing the same but highly recommended. Tends to help you actually keep your word. Welcome to August quit.

[Grady]

Fair enough everyone, I can take the heat. I quit today and will remain quit. Still not sure if I'm supposed to join a new group for August or move back to July.

As for the questions:

What happened - my other addiction (alcohol) got the best of me and I decided it was a good idea to go grab a dip, I actually didn't remember it until the next morning, which sort of sent me into a downward spiral from there.

Why did it happen - my lack of control while drinking got the best of me.

What will I do different - I'm seeing a counselor now, primarily in response to my drinking and other related life events. I'm now on medication to help balance out my brain chemistry. My wife is on board as a support mechanism (I've tried to keep my habit hidden from her).

Not sure what else you want from me, but that's where I'm at. I'm not back to try again, there will be no trying only succeeding.

Oh fuck no. You are not welcome in July. When you quit for real, that's the group you join!

Man you got it all goin on. The booze did NOT get the best of you. YOU ALLOWED THE BOOZE TO GET THE BEST OF YOU! When you understand that statement completely, then and only then will you START understanding your addiction, until that time you will fail over and over and over again, PERIOD!

Counselor huh? FUCK THAT BULLSHIT! You take your ass to an AA meeting, you get yourself a sponsor, you LIVE the 12 steps. When you do all these things, then come back and join us. MAYBE someday you will understand what being an addict truly means and that you will live with both of these diseases every single day for the rest of your life.

[Braves360]

Brothers and Sisters,

I tried my first quit with July and failed. It was me that failed not "we" that failed. I appreciate the support I've already received and look forward to more. Tomorrow (may 14th) will be my official quit date. I look forward to joining y'all on this difficult but fulfilling journey. I will not let August down like I did July - I have figured out my triggers and now know how to avoid them, but will still need your help.

Thanks in advance.

LL

Dude I don't know that the fuck "I tried" means, but that is the biggest load of bullshit that I've seen in a long fucking time. There is no try here, there is no "I'll quit again tomorrow" here, if you don't want to fucking quit then don't fucking quit. I'm serious, don't waste your time posting over and over and over and over day 1 and trying to put up some pansy ass apology. You caved, you were a spineless puss who didn't lean on your quit brothers/sisters when you needed them and you caved. I hope you grew a set between the time you decided to cave and the time that you decided you were going to "try" another quit.

Before you do much in the way of roll posting you have some damn questions to answer and I think that we all deserve some real damn answers. I don't want to hear no "feel good" bullshit story about how your goldfish died and you couldn't handle the stress and that dip just jumped right in your lip to make you feel better.

I want to know what the fuck went through that piece of shit between you ears that made you think long enough to get to the gas station, ask the clerk for the nicodik, pay for the nicodik, and start sucking the nicodik that it was a good idea to cave?

Why did you think it was a grand idea to start sucking the nicodik again? I mean were the first 7 days of quit not enough of a challenge the first time around? You thought you would just give it another whirl and see if you could beat your previous high score? Let me tell you, this shit doesn't work that way. Day 1 sucks just as bad the second time you "try" as it did the first time.

What is it that you are going to "promise" us that you are going to do differently this time to make sure that this doesn't happen again? While you are telling us that, tell us why we should believe you since you posted roll, promised to stay quit, and then lied to us by caving. In my little part of the world a man's word is all he has, it's all he is worth and once he tarnishes his word, he is tarnished. You have a shit load of polishing to do in my book to even get a little bit of the shine that was on your word back.

If you want to really post roll, and you really want to quit, then get some fucking digits and start texting/calling people when you are on the edge. I'll be the first person to give you my digits if you PM me. I will be there to talk you through the tough times. There is no more of this "try" bullshit. Please do us all a favor, if you decide that August isn't the best month for you and you cave again, don't tell us how hard you "tried" not to drive to the gas station, how hard you "tried" not to ask the clerk for your favorite brand, how hard you "tried" not to pay for it, even as he/she handed you your favorite brand, and how hard you "tried" not to stick that nicodik right back where you had kicked it out of.

As Yoda would say, "do or do not, there is no try".

[littlelebowski]

Brothers and Sisters,

I tried my first quit with July and failed. It was me that failed not "we" that failed. I appreciate the support I've already received and look forward to more. Tomorrow (may 14th) will be my official quit date. I look forward to joining y'all on this difficult but fulfilling journey. I will not let August down like I did July - I have figured out my triggers and now know how to avoid them, but will still need your help.

Thanks in advance.

LL

Is this a new intro or a first or what? Seems to me some remedial training will need to be done here. Yes, I'm busting your balls, not because you caved but for your lack of inspiration. show us some quit, not some excuses.

You "tried" your first quit with July? WTF? This isn't a sampler tray bro. If it isn't to your liking you don't just give up and come back to a different month and "try" it out. This isn't an experiment... It's life and death. Don't be owned by that evil shit anymore. Own. Your. Quit.

Yes... It's not fun but it's the price of freedom and its worth it.

2 things...
1) stick to the original intro you started. You don't get 2
2) you have 3 questions to answer... What happened? Why did it happen? What are you going to do differently this time. Do NOT give us cheezy answers... Dig deep... Be real.

Tomorrow? Watch this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgfQ9o2-9BM

'libs2' He's missing the concept here!

It's tomorrow..... where you at sugar?

Fair enough everyone, I can take the heat. I quit today and will remain quit. Still not sure if I'm supposed to join a new group for August or move back to July.

As for the questions:

What happened - my other addiction (alcohol) got the best of me and I decided it was a good idea to go grab a dip, I actually didn't remember it until the next morning, which sort of sent me into a downward spiral from there.

Why did it happen - my lack of control while drinking got the best of me.

What will I do different - I'm seeing a counselor now, primarily in response to my drinking and other related life events. I'm now on medication to help balance out my brain chemistry. My wife is on board as a support mechanism (I've tried to keep my habit hidden from her).

Not sure what else you want from me, but that's where I'm at. I'm not back to try again, there will be no trying only succeeding.

[jake frawley]

Brothers and Sisters,

I tried my first quit with July and failed. It was me that failed not "we" that failed. I appreciate the support I've already received and look forward to more. Tomorrow (may 14th) will be my official quit date. I look forward to joining y'all on this difficult but fulfilling journey. I will not let August down like I did July - I have figured out my triggers and now know how to avoid them, but will still need your help.

Thanks in advance.

LL

Is this a new intro or a first or what? Seems to me some remedial training will need to be done here. Yes, I'm busting your balls, not because you caved but for your lack of inspiration. show us some quit, not some excuses.

You "tried" your first quit with July? WTF? This isn't a sampler tray bro. If it isn't to your liking you don't just give up and come back to a different month and "try" it out. This isn't an experiment... It's life and death. Don't be owned by that evil shit anymore. Own. Your. Quit.

Yes... It's not fun but it's the price of freedom and its worth it.

2 things...
1) stick to the original intro you started. You don't get 2
2) you have 3 questions to answer... What happened? Why did it happen? What are you going to do differently this time. Do NOT give us cheezy answers... Dig deep... Be real.

Tomorrow? Watch this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgfQ9o2-9BM

'libs2' He's missing the concept here!

It's tomorrow..... where you at sugar?

[E&C's Dad]

Brothers and Sisters,

I tried my first quit with July and failed. It was me that failed not "we" that failed. I appreciate the support I've already received and look forward to more. Tomorrow (may 14th) will be my official quit date. I look forward to joining y'all on this difficult but fulfilling journey. I will not let August down like I did July - I have figured out my triggers and now know how to avoid them, but will still need your help.

Thanks in advance.

LL

Is this a new intro or a first or what? Seems to me some remedial training will need to be done here. Yes, I'm busting your balls, not because you caved but for your lack of inspiration. show us some quit, not some excuses.

You "tried" your first quit with July? WTF? This isn't a sampler tray bro. If it isn't to your liking you don't just give up and come back to a different month and "try" it out. This isn't an experiment... It's life and death. Don't be owned by that evil shit anymore. Own. Your. Quit.

Yes... It's not fun but it's the price of freedom and its worth it.

2 things...
1) stick to the original intro you started. You don't get 2
2) you have 3 questions to answer... What happened? Why did it happen? What are you going to do differently this time. Do NOT give us cheezy answers... Dig deep... Be real.

Tomorrow? Watch this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgfQ9o2-9BM