New Member - My Story

[wastepanel]

Patches do not make quitting suck less.
Nicorette does not make quitting suck less.
Changing vehicles does not make quitting suck less.

All of these things merely prolonge that shitty feeling of quitting. Think about it. Would you like to be fucking miserable for a week and no longer physically dependent, or irratable, scared, foul tempered for months because you are feeding your addiction just enough to keep it alive?

Starve the bitch. Rip that bandaid off instead of slowing pulling it.

You'll thank us later.

We rip you because you're weak.

I'll make you a challenge. Rip off that patch, and don't put another one on today. Don't smoke, chew, or use nicotine in any way until tomorrow morning. Surely you can quit for less than 24 hours.

[Mcbeevee]

Dice, you are really using your supposed "intellect" to the max in order to buy a little more time with your addiction with nicotine. Using the terms "logical" and "analyze" in order to justify your weakness to quit is very lame. Be real logical and analytical and do some research on the effects of using this drug and then come to the only valid conclusion that you need to just "Quit"! Don't use any security blanket or binkies, just make the logical decision to leave it behind.

[raiderx]

I second mthomas comments

[Wedge]

Dice,

I work with my family. My father, mother, and wife. That's it. The 4 of us. I love all of them to death, but like a typical family things get contentious. Not just once a week or every now and then, but pretty much every day. I get irritated with my dad and his old school ways or my mother for not doing something the way I feel it should be done. There's also the times where they get pissy with each other and it drives me nuts.

My point is that I work in a high stress environment just like you do. When I found this site, I wasn't ready to quit either. I planned my quit, ordered some fake stuff off the web, and was going to quit when it arrived a few days later. But then it hit me....

I'm an addict. I didn't realize that I was. I knew I was addicted to nicotine and that I couldn't put it down, but I didn't put two and two together to realize I was an actual ADDICT. Sounded foreign to me because I thought of addicts and meth. Addicts and coke. Addicts and crack. Addicts and heroin. But you know what? It's addicts and nicotine just the same as the rest.

That pissed me off. I got mad. I didn't want to be an addict. I was willing to stop being an addict so bad that I didn't care what happened in my daily life. If my job sucked, so what? I wasn't going to continue to let my dipping crutch me through it. It wasn't worth it. My lips, tongue, gums, teeth, and life were worth more than the miniscule increase in stress i'd get from not dipping.

Turns out I can survive working with my family just fine. I don't need a dip to take the edge off to make it to 5pm. I'm sure you can too. GET IN HERE. TOSS YOUR CANS. OWN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE AN ADDICT. DEAL WITH YOUR LIFE WITHOUT NICOTINE SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A LIFE AT ALL.

[Wt57]

Has anyone had success with patches? Any advice? I have found that the effectiveness wears off throughout the day (sweat maybe?) and changing the patch is the only thing that works for me. I am using the highest level right now, but would ideally like to slowly drop down. One thing I noticed last night was the vivid dreams I had throughout the night. I also tossed and turned all night long and woke up in the night in a trance a few times....

1. Patches don't work. They help with some of the physical withdrawels, but in the late teens, you won't know who the fuck you are or what the fuck you're doing. They are bullshit, and just another way for the tobacco companies to make money. Take the 40 bucks you spent on them and flush it. That's experience talking.

2. You're not used to having nicotine while you sleep, that's why you're so effed at night. Still think that shit is helpful or needed? IT'S SCREWING WITH YOU!

3. You need to quit something today. Nic, or this site. Cuz this place ain't for scardies. You got balls??? SHOW EM!

That is all.

Miami,

I get it, you are not ready to quit for you. Fair enough. There are two things that brought me to the point knowing that I wanted to quit for me.

1. I hated it. I really just got bored and tired of it.

2. Looking at this can and wondering why I still had to have one more when I didn't
Want it anymore. I couldn't turn away the seductive call but I hated it all the more.

Conclusion: Addiction. When you realize this simple thing, you are an addict, you will be humble, motivated and ready to be free.

I welcome you to linger on the site. It has helped me. I just ask one thing, never ever come to this site with any of the nicotine in, on or around you. Please.

This is my church or sanctuary of quit. Please respect that this place is a healing ground for me and my addiction and using nic while on this site is disrespectful. You can read and gain insight here. Just please show courtesy and respect and it will come back in kind.

I wish you luck and support, only you can quit for you. Once you cross that line and post roll, you will have great strength and support to succeed in freeing yourself from the shackles on you.

Thank you,
Mthomas3824

Miami I've tied everything!! KTC works I'm not sure why, but I feel my quit! May be it the KTC plan, maybe it's my time maybe it's a combination. All I do know is that I've had craving but I've had so much support here and could never let these faceless strangers down. That is really a messed up thought, sharing important life decisions with total strangers.

Hey don't put off untill tomorrow what you can do today!!

[Mthomas3824]

Has anyone had success with patches? Any advice? I have found that the effectiveness wears off throughout the day (sweat maybe?) and changing the patch is the only thing that works for me. I am using the highest level right now, but would ideally like to slowly drop down. One thing I noticed last night was the vivid dreams I had throughout the night. I also tossed and turned all night long and woke up in the night in a trance a few times....

1. Patches don't work. They help with some of the physical withdrawels, but in the late teens, you won't know who the fuck you are or what the fuck you're doing. They are bullshit, and just another way for the tobacco companies to make money. Take the 40 bucks you spent on them and flush it. That's experience talking.

2. You're not used to having nicotine while you sleep, that's why you're so effed at night. Still think that shit is helpful or needed? IT'S SCREWING WITH YOU!

3. You need to quit something today. Nic, or this site. Cuz this place ain't for scardies. You got balls??? SHOW EM!

That is all.

Miami,

I get it, you are not ready to quit for you. Fair enough. There are two things that brought me to the point knowing that I wanted to quit for me.

1. I hated it. I really just got bored and tired of it.

2. Looking at this can and wondering why I still had to have one more when I didn't
Want it anymore. I couldn't turn away the seductive call but I hated it all the more.

Conclusion: Addiction. When you realize this simple thing, you are an addict, you will be humble, motivated and ready to be free.

I welcome you to linger on the site. It has helped me. I just ask one thing, never ever come to this site with any of the nicotine in, on or around you. Please.

This is my church or sanctuary of quit. Please respect that this place is a healing ground for me and my addiction and using nic while on this site is disrespectful. You can read and gain insight here. Just please show courtesy and respect and it will come back in kind.

I wish you luck and support, only you can quit for you. Once you cross that line and post roll, you will have great strength and support to succeed in freeing yourself from the shackles on you.

Thank you,
Mthomas3824

[dgonseaux]

Has anyone had success with patches? Any advice? I have found that the effectiveness wears off throughout the day (sweat maybe?) and changing the patch is the only thing that works for me. I am using the highest level right now, but would ideally like to slowly drop down. One thing I noticed last night was the vivid dreams I had throughout the night. I also tossed and turned all night long and woke up in the night in a trance a few times....

1. Patches don't work. They help with some of the physical withdrawels, but in the late teens, you won't know who the fuck you are or what the fuck you're doing. They are bullshit, and just another way for the tobacco companies to make money. Take the 40 bucks you spent on them and flush it. That's experience talking.

2. You're not used to having nicotine while you sleep, that's why you're so effed at night. Still think that shit is helpful or needed? IT'S SCREWING WITH YOU!

3. You need to quit something today. Nic, or this site. Cuz this place ain't for scardies. You got balls??? SHOW EM!

That is all.

[Notdeadyet]

I just stumbled into this intro thread and saw that you don't want to quit . I also see miami dice sitting either logged on or watching for updates . So , dice are you still around just for the attention ? You already told us to fuck off by not quitting so why are you still lurking ? I quit for me coming up on a year ago . I didn't write a full page look at me intro like you managed to do . I jumped right in . I say take your cute name along with the other fuck nut , bullshit artists who didn't get their quit  off the ground . I saw many of them fall in my group alone I think 68 of them . Too bad for you and no dice here .          
              Good luck with your patches and gum ,
         brainsore

My story and intentions are both genuine. In fact, I have never spelled it out in that way to anyone in my life. Attention is the last thing I want from this group. I posted because I want to free myself from nicotine. I specifically came to the introductions forum because, well, that seemed to be the most logical starting point in discussing my habit with a group of people who have decided to quit.

I'm not sure if I should be taking the slights at me as a psychological tool for motivation...

Dice, you're not listening very well. You do not have a habit. Picking your nose is a habit. You are a fucking drug addict. You can only beat this by not using your drug. Go post roll call in the August group and promise not to use any form of nicotine for the rest of today. Keep your word. Wake up and promise again tomorrow. You will not fail if you post and keep your word.

[Miami Dice]

I just stumbled into this intro thread and saw that you don't want to quit . I also see miami dice sitting either logged on or watching for updates . So , dice are you still around just for the attention ? You already told us to fuck off by not quitting so why are you still lurking ? I quit for me coming up on a year ago . I didn't write a full page look at me intro like you managed to do . I jumped right in . I say take your cute name along with the other fuck nut , bullshit artists who didn't get their quit off the ground . I saw many of them fall in my group alone I think 68 of them . Too bad for you and no dice here .
Good luck with your patches and gum ,
brainsore

My story and intentions are both genuine. In fact, I have never spelled it out in that way to anyone in my life. Attention is the last thing I want from this group. I posted because I want to free myself from nicotine. I specifically came to the introductions forum because, well, that seemed to be the most logical starting point in discussing my habit with a group of people who have decided to quit.

I'm not sure if I should be taking the slights at me as a psychological tool for motivation...

[brainsore]

I just stumbled into this intro thread and saw that you don't want to quit . I also see miami dice sitting either logged on or watching for updates . So , dice are you still around just for the attention ? You already told us to fuck off by not quitting so why are you still lurking ? I quit for me coming up on a year ago . I didn't write a full page look at me intro like you managed to do . I jumped right in . I say take your cute name along with the other fuck nut , bullshit artists who didn't get their quit off the ground . I saw many of them fall in my group alone I think 68 of them . Too bad for you and no dice here .
Good luck with your patches and gum ,
brainsore

[steve1357]

Thanks for the input guys. It seems like this a group I can really count on to keep me motivated when the time comes to quit nicotine altogether.

I know this NOT what you want to hear, but I am not mentally prepared to quit yet. I'm just not. If I do, I will fail.

As of today I have made a promise to myself to no longer dip or smoke, but I am going to begin with the patches. I want to take some time to really analyze my habits and work into the oral fixation replacement (seeds and gum). Today is the first day I haven't smoked or chewed in around 8 years. I would like to (aggressively) work my way down to only requiring the 7 mg patch a day, and if it is fine by the group here...use the support from the first day I no longer use the patch to get through the remaining 100 days.

I took a bike ride today and spent a lot of time thinking about how much of a slave I am to this addiction...and my attempts at hiding it make me feel awful inside. Not telling family, not telling co-workers, buying a coke bottle before a flight only so I can guzzle it half-way down and dip covertly on the plane...it's terrible. As I rode along I counted over a dozen people smoking and thought to myself the poor bastards are slaves just like me...but obey they obey their master like clockwork. I want to kill the Nic Bitch...I just feel the weening strategy is my best chance for success.

I don't think anyone here was "mentaly prepared" to quit. It is scary to imagine life without nicotine. But you have to take the step. We have the tools here to help you quit.

Just consider this. The first three days without nicotine in your system suck. Your brain goes haywired trying to get used to life with out nic. You will go through this, there is no doubt. You can start the process today, or you can strech it out over weeks. But the day you stop using NRT, you will go through this same withdrawl.

Quit today and take control of your life. I guarentee you that you can do it.

[Miami Dice]

Thanks for the input guys. It seems like this a group I can really count on to keep me motivated when the time comes to quit nicotine altogether.

I know this NOT what you want to hear, but I am not mentally prepared to quit yet. I'm just not. If I do, I will fail.

As of today I have made a promise to myself to no longer dip or smoke, but I am going to begin with the patches. I want to take some time to really analyze my habits and work into the oral fixation replacement (seeds and gum). Today is the first day I haven't smoked or chewed in around 8 years. I would like to (aggressively) work my way down to only requiring the 7 mg patch a day, and if it is fine by the group here...use the support from the first day I no longer use the patch to get through the remaining 100 days.

I took a bike ride today and spent a lot of time thinking about how much of a slave I am to this addiction...and my attempts at hiding it make me feel awful inside. Not telling family, not telling co-workers, buying a coke bottle before a flight only so I can guzzle it half-way down and dip covertly on the plane...it's terrible. As I rode along I counted over a dozen people smoking and thought to myself the poor bastards are slaves just like me...but obey they obey their master like clockwork. I want to kill the Nic Bitch...I just feel the weening strategy is my best chance for success.

[Kubrick]

Hey Dice,

My deal was always I could never have just one. I can't tell you how many times I bought my "last can". Drinking the cold turkey koolaid was the only way for me. I'm 7 days in and if I can do it so can you. I spent 16 plus hours a day with one in my lip. Can't get any more addicted than me and again, if I can pull it off so can you.

There are a lot of great people here to help. Like one of my new brothers said to me: 'Do me a favor and take that can and flush it'. I stared at those words for an hour and I did it (plus threw all that bullshit gum out). I feel so good right now because of that one little symbolic act.

FM

And just think, that nicotine is out of your system now. The physical withdrawal symptoms are gone. No need to prolong it by "weaning" yourself off. Nicotine withdrawals aren't going to kill you. It aint heroin or alcohol where a graduated detox is needed.

It's certainly not easy to deal with cravings, but that's what this place is for. Accountability. The 3-4 days of suck are the easy part. The lifelong addiction to nicotine isn't easy, but it's so rewarding to not be a slave anymore.

Grats on your 7 days man, you quit like fuck!

[Freeme2012]

Hey Dice,

My deal was always I could never have just one. I can't tell you how many times I bought my "last can". Drinking the cold turkey koolaid was the only way for me. I'm 7 days in and if I can do it so can you. I spent 16 plus hours a day with one in my lip. Can't get any more addicted than me and again, if I can pull it off so can you.

There are a lot of great people here to help. Like one of my new brothers said to me: 'Do me a favor and take that can and flush it'. I stared at those words for an hour and I did it (plus threw all that bullshit gum out). I feel so good right now because of that one little symbolic act.

FM

[ERDVM]

I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.

This is fear talking.

Many others with much tougher situations in life than you have quit cold turkey. I'm talking about quitting while relatives are dying or marriages are failing. Your moody colleagues don't hold a candle to that shit.

So get rid of the excuses, get rid of the patches, get rid of the nicotine gum, and man up.

You can do it. The thousands of pure quiters here are proof.

Oh man! This is the fun part.

Miami Dice, true quitters of tobacco stepped up and told you what you need to do. They drew a line in the sand. Join us and be free, or go to the nic bitch and remain shackled and bound to your nicotine addiction.

This isn't just talk, this is do it or don't. These men will walk through hell with you but they won't waste their time with a talker. You have to walk.

What's it going to be?

Oh shit this is fun to watch. Do you quit or do you not. Only you decide so I'm going to see what you do.

YOUR MOVE

This is like the matrixx. Red pill or Blue pill. No its better than the matirxx, this is for your life Dice. Its your time to divorce nicotine once and for all. Freedom or vice???

Good show.  Can't wait to see how it turns out.... 'Popcorn'

Getting interesting.......

Will he .... man-up and toss the nicotene and become a bad ass quiter???????

Will he ..... continue to use nicotene and try to be the special butterfly .........

tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock

'Popcorn'

Tune in tomorrow 'Finger'

Dice - not anything to add, but I thought I would answer your question.

Has anyone had success with patches?

Depends on your definition of success. If success is defined as being able to live without the Nic Bitch holding your scrotum, then the answer would be no. None of "us" have had success including you.

For the past few months I have been trying patches. I would have a dip in the morning, wear the patch until work was over, then dip as much as I want after work.

Successfully quitting involves ..... quitting.
You don't help alcoholics by giving them beer vs vodka.
You don't help heroine addicts by giving them oxycontin pills.
You don't help porn addicts by having them only look at AF and JCP catalogs.
You don't help nicotine addicts by giving them nicotine.


If your definition of success is to not dip for a while, then the NRT may help. My story involves 2 decades of nicotine and I used the lozenges and the patch. While on the patch, I went "cold turkey" and didn't lip. You do have some fucked up dreams (it says that on the box, as well as, not to use other forms of nicotine BTW). I stretched my "patch phase" from the recommended 12 weeks to 20 weeks, cause I "was really addicted". Tore my last patch off in January of 2011 after a dentist appointment. 2 days later i bought another can. 2 fucking days! I went right back to gagging em in 24/7 until I found KTC 118 days ago.

Miami, I hope this helps some. I think it is ok for you to post your "NRT quit plan" in your introduction thread. You can not use tobacco, and you are not free to post in any quit groups or wildcard sections, just your intro.

Vadge