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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: eschmit04 on January 30, 2019, 01:12:57 PM
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Hi all Looking forward to talking and hearing from all of you. I quite on Monday Jan 21st at about 6:00pm. But not knowing any better I did use a few pieces of nicorette gum on friday and saturday so at this point I can really only say I'm 4 days into my quit.
That said it is horrible. The fog is brutal and has stuck with me almost the entire time. Reading a lot of post on here about the "medical anxiety" helped a lot. Pretty much since the day I quite I have not felt healthy, and I have to tell myself "I'm fine, its the nicotine trying to win".
I had quit once before that lasted for around 90 days and it was a CAKE walk compared to this. When I made the decision to quite this go around I never though it would be this hard, or have this much physical/mental control over me.
Well anyway I'm hear cause I want to talk with people that truly understand what I'm going though and don't just look at me like I"m crazy.
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Hi all Looking forward to talking and hearing from all of you. I quite on Monday Jan 21st at about 6:00pm. But not knowing any better I did use a few pieces of nicorette gum on friday and saturday so at this point I can really only say I'm 4 days into my quit.
That said it is horrible. The fog is brutal and has stuck with me almost the entire time. Reading a lot of post on here about the "medical anxiety" helped a lot. Pretty much since the day I quite I have not felt healthy, and I have to tell myself "I'm fine, its the nicotine trying to win".
I had quit once before that lasted for around 90 days and it was a CAKE walk compared to this. When I made the decision to quite this go around I never though it would be this hard, or have this much physical/mental control over me.
Well anyway I'm hear cause I want to talk with people that truly understand what I'm going though and don't just look at me like I"m crazy.
Hi eschmit04,
Welcome to the best decision of your life. The reason it is harder is because your brain knows that you are actually quitting this time not stopping for spell. If you dive in to this forum and drink all the koolaid, you will succeed.
First off, we need to get you in to your quit group. You are absolutely correct in that you are 4 days quit and not 9. No nicotine is allowed in this site. If you ingest nicotine while posting here, you go back to Day 1. Trust me, you do not want to go back to day 1.
Click Here (https://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?topic=1015.450) for your quit group. This is the May 2019 Quit Group. May is the month that everyone in this group will reach their HOF or 100 days quit.
Go there and post your promise to not use nicotine for the next 24 hours. We quit One Day at a Time here. We don't worry about tomorrow or next week or next year or forever. We can't control those. We can control today.
Post your promise early in your day, every day, keep your word and repeat daily. The process is simple. Actually doing it is hard. That is why the accountability and brotherhood are so important. Start exchanging digits (phone numbers) with other quitters in your group as well as some vets. This will begin to build your web of accountability, it also gives you instant access to support if you need it. Accountability is a two-way street so be sure to reciprocate with your digits when someone sends you theirs. AS you begin receiving and sending texts or phone calls with other quitters, the bonds of brotherhood begin to develop.
I chewed for over 31 years and was up to 3 cans a day when I quit 378 days ago. If I can do this, so can you. You just need to admit to yourself that you are an addict and you will be for the rest of your life.
Check your messages for my digits.
Proud to quit with you today,
Chris
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It sounds weird but wife has been telling me my snoring has gotten significantly worse. I am not sure if this is a coincidence or what?
About a year ago I got my tonsils removed and it pretty much eliminated my snoring. So it was re disheartening ti hear that it is coming back.. Hoping it goes away
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Hi all Looking forward to talking and hearing from all of you. I quite on Monday Jan 21st at about 6:00pm. But not knowing any better I did use a few pieces of nicorette gum on friday and saturday so at this point I can really only say I'm 4 days into my quit.
That said it is horrible. The fog is brutal and has stuck with me almost the entire time. Reading a lot of post on here about the "medical anxiety" helped a lot. Pretty much since the day I quite I have not felt healthy, and I have to tell myself "I'm fine, its the nicotine trying to win".
I had quit once before that lasted for around 90 days and it was a CAKE walk compared to this. When I made the decision to quite this go around I never though it would be this hard, or have this much physical/mental control over me.
Well anyway I'm hear cause I want to talk with people that truly understand what I'm going though and don't just look at me like I"m crazy.
The May Crew Grows! Welcome Brother. Chris said it all brother, Remember you are not a lone in this and yes we understand! I'm 9 Days in so I am still in the suck with you. I promise to never let you down and stay Quit with you! If you want my digits send me a PM, it really does help, Use that help anytime! Glad to have you with us, lets get through it together. I like to say Day by Day, Hour by Hour, Minute by Minute, Second by Second. Keep moving forward and Never Quit (The Quit) We are all dealing with what you are, we Understand, and you are not crazy!
Try to burn all these shitty feelings you are having, Embrace them, Beat them, but don't forget them! I never want to go through this hell again! Together we will kick the Nic bitch for good!
Proud to quit with you today!
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It sounds weird but wife has been telling me my snoring has gotten significantly worse. I am not sure if this is a coincidence or what?
About a year ago I got my tonsils removed and it pretty much eliminated my snoring. So it was re disheartening ti hear that it is coming back.. Hoping it goes away
Only thing I can tell you is that since quitting, I’m finally sleeping more soundly and deeply and that I do snore a bit more than before. I don’t have any scientific evidence to back it up but that’s the only thing I can attribute it too. That and I’m not staying up late trying to get one last dip in before bed.
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I think it affects everyone differently. My wife says I have quit snoring and I sleep way more now than I have in recent memory. Hang in there and keep up the quit. We are all in this together.
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It sounds weird but wife has been telling me my snoring has gotten significantly worse. I am not sure if this is a coincidence or what?
About a year ago I got my tonsils removed and it pretty much eliminated my snoring. So it was re disheartening ti hear that it is coming back.. Hoping it goes away
Yup! Especially early in my quit. Wanna know what I did to fix it? I went down to Walmart and bought her a box of ear plugs. Problem solved
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It sounds weird but wife has been telling me my snoring has gotten significantly worse. I am not sure if this is a coincidence or what?
About a year ago I got my tonsils removed and it pretty much eliminated my snoring. So it was re disheartening ti hear that it is coming back.. Hoping it goes away
Without the constant nicotine stimulation in your body I would imagine the muscles in your throat are entirely relaxed which would explain the increased snoring. Also, if you gained any weight ( I gained 15lbs) after your quit, that would add to the problem. You might try a anti snoring mouth guard that positions the lower jaw outward slightly and keeps the airway from relaxing shut during sleep.
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Hey all I've heard it mentioned here a few times. But some days I have horrible anxiety which turnes into heart burn and the two symptoms can last all day sometimes.
From what I have read from here this can come and go for a LONG time. My question does anyone have any advice, tips, tricks?
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What is your form of anxiety? You'd have to describe what you're feeling a little in order to get some accurate advice/tips.....I've struggled with anxiety for around two years now. Would be happy to talk about it. PM me
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I too have had and still struggle with anxiety. I personally think the dip hid it for years, but I am not going to test that theory. My anxiety stems from stresses of work and life balance. Here to help, if needed.
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Hey all I've heard it mentioned here a few times. But some days I have horrible anxiety which turnes into heart burn and the two symptoms can last all day sometimes.
From what I have read from here this can come and go for a LONG time. My question does anyone have any advice, tips, tricks?
Anxiety sucks big floppy donkey dick. I dealt with it for a long time and stayed quit. Here’s what I can add:
- it comes and goes. Learn to see it coming and what to do next. Early on it was pharmaceutical, a 0.5 mg Xanax, prescribed. Now it is step back, go for a drive, coffee or a walk. Still have the script, but haven’t filled it in over a year.
- Stress about what you control. My anxiety was caused by me becoming overwhelmed by everything. Things in my control and things that aren’t. Now I have developed a way of sorting through the daily crap and putting things into the fuk it bucket or the to do list.
- Don’t be afraid to let it all out. Crying because your overwhelmed is healthy as long as the tears don’t fall in your beer. Talking... Writing.... are also two good ways. I used my intro (see KTC archives, this time is for real) there is also an anxiety and depression in the getting my act together. *Not sure if they created one at KTC 3.0, but go to the archives and read.
- I found God. I spend most of my 2 hrs commute listing to sermons, worship music, a daily devotional and the Bible. This I know has been the greatest asset in me overcoming my anxiety. There is NOTHING that Jesus hasn’t paid the price for. We are to lay our worries at his feet and lean into him.
Dealing with anxiety and Quit is an extremely emotional and personal journey. But that’s why it has highs and lows. It’s a journey. You can only stumble if your moving forward. When our kids learned to walk, we didn’t call them failures if the fell after two steps, we picked them back up and encouraged them with a bright smiling face with pride in our eyes. Realize that is how our Father looks at us.
Find the encouragement anywhere you can get it and treat this like your quit, ODAAT. Also don’t forget that there isn’t one situation in which nicotine will improve the outcome.
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eschmit04
The only thing I can add to this conversation is that anxiety is very real and perhaps you should seek out the help of a medical counselor. I was dealing with anxiety and rage and my workouts and meditation helped a great deal. I know others that sought out a counselor who them referred them to get medication.
Make sure you are eating three square meals a day, getting plenty of rest, are on a regular exercise program and give yourself at least 15 minutes quiet time to just sit and meditate.
My lifting workout of 5 sets of 5 makes me feel very calm and tranquil. Perhaps some type of workout can make you feel that way as well.
If not, do not hesitate to seek professional advice.
Living with anxiety is like living with pain - you can do it but if you can find a way to relieve it that is healthy then do it.
Much success.
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Many Many years ago I suffered from depression/anxiety. A few years on medication, a lot of learning about myself and depression and I was back off the medication. I have been off any kind of medication like that for atleast 8 years now.
With that being said this is different. It has me thinking it is just another side affect of leaning to live without nicotine. Depression left me helpless, overwhelmed etc.
This is different Like I cant stop thinking... about everything.. its not like I'm worried about bills, or my family, etc... Its like I'm excited almost short of breath but not quite. Sometimes it seems that daily triggers kick off the feeling that can last the rest of the day.
It also seems to be paired with a less intense version of the "fog"but hard to focus, sometimes almost groggy. I'm only 16 days in so I feel like its gotta be the nicotine.. I have no other reason to feel like this. Dr says I'm in good health, I have a beautiful wife, two amazing children, good job that supports us well, and live in one of the most beautiful places in the country.
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I was really hoping you guys would have a little more input on this. I figured this was kinda normal when quit?
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The anxiety thing is real. If you are really struggling with it I would suggest you talk with your doctor about it. There is no shame in asking your doctor for help. Nicotine is a highly addictive drug and you just quit it cold turkey. Yes, it is going to have an affect on you.
I can't call what I experienced anxiety, but I definitely had trouble controlling my emotions for a couple months. I actually felt myself tearing up a few times over stupid crap like sad movies. I flipped a lot of people off while I was driving. I had zero patience with everybody at work. But, I eventually leveled off and returned to normal. I read somewhere that it can take about 4 months for your brain to rewire itself after you quit nicotine. I don't remember where I read it and I don't know if that is true. But, I do think that quitting got much easier for me around that 4 month mark.
I didn't have any problems with heartburn when I quit, but I did used to suffer greatly from acid reflux many years ago. I actually went to the doctor because I thought something inside my throat felt odd. He took a look inside my throat and asked me how many days a week I had heartburn. My answer to him was zero. He laughed and told me that I appeared to have an eroded esophagus and put me on some medication. Within a week after starting the medication I felt fantastic and realized that I had been suffering from heartburn for years but was so used to it that I didn't realize I had it. Years later I switched doctors and the new doctor wanted me to get off of the proton pump inhibitors. So, he wanted me to change my diet and make a few other changes. I hate to age myself here but as soon as I got rid of my waterbed my heartburn went completely away. The doctor said when I slept on the waterbed my esophagus was below my stomach because my body was top heavy. I haven't had a problem with heartburn since.
Maybe you had heartburn before but didn't realize it. Maybe your diet has changed since you quit nicotine (I know mine did). I drank a ton more coffee when I quit and coffee can definitely cause heartburn. There are several things related to your eating habits that you might be doing different now that could be causing the heartburn. I am just stabbing in the dark here. If it concerns you, go see your doctor.
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None of us are doctors here...and if you are really worried, please go see the doc...but anxiety and heartburn and inability to focus? All extremely common complaints after quitting. You are only 16 days in, you have a lot of healing to do. A lot.
Couple things...if you drink coffee or anything else with caffeine...cut back. Any caffeine you take in will have 2x the affect on your body now as it did without nicotine in your body. Strange but true.
I have found Ashwagandha and Rhodiola Rosea to help me with stress and mental clarity, respectively. They both reduce cortisol levels in the body which helps to reduce the body's response to stress naturally.
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Thank you both for the replys. I would not say I'm worried as much as curious and trying to understand. The 4 month mark is atleast something for me to look forward to.
Today was much better. I walked about a mile and a half on my breaks. And drank less coffee only about a half a cup compaired to my 2+ cups. That is an interesting point fllipout about the caffine being more effective.
I will not hesitate to ask my doctor if I feel it is getting out of control. The only reason I come to you guys (I know your not doctor's) but I also know there are a lot of bad ass quitters here that have first hand experienced the effects of quitting chewing A LOT of nicotine. Some things most Drs would not understand.
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That's great, eschmit! Keep it up. It will get better. Then you'll have some crappy days again. Then much better again. It really is a journey, but you are definitely on your way.
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1 intro per quitter please!
I merged the 3 you had into 1
Thanks and keep quitting!!
-batdad
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3 weeks is badass! Congrats. You might be having sleep issues, and if so that is normal. How are your anxiety issues? Just remember that most of us addicts used nic to help with anxiety and stressful situations. Until we work out how to deal with life without nic, you might feel stressed out in certain situations. Most important thing is to post roll every day like your life depended on it, well, because it does! Anyways, you have my digits, I'll see ya on roll!
mayfly
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I said some other stuff, but decided I didn’t like the way sounded. Bottom line, you’re kicking ass, and doing it right by being involved here. I’ve had similar issues with anxiety, during my quit there have been moments where I’m having to really buckle down.
Honestly did really well at first, day 30ish had some of the things you described, short of breath, mind moving a lot.
I know I Pmd you this already, but in case anyone else can relate I’ll put it here to. Alcohol really seemed to intensify my anxiety, not just when drinking but the next day also. I’ve decided to not drink for a while because of that.
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Thanks guys! I woke up this morning pretty proud of how far I have come in my Quit! I know there is no going back for me.
Anxiety has been a lot better. A little bit of exercise goes a long way for me. Also I cut back on my caffeine intake and I think that helped as well.
I generally don't drink much during the week, But I did drink a fair amount over the weekend with the family while we were painting. I will be curious if the anxiety creeps up today.
It is so nice to be able to come to a place like this and talk to so many people that have experienced quitting chewing.
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God I hate nicotine. I hate Copenhagen. I hate that I thought I was ever tougher than it is. I hate lashing out at my family especially my two year old because I can't handle my own temper during this quit. I'm still quit. I'll never go back but I hate this part.
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God I hate nicotine. I hate Copenhagen. I hate that I thought I was ever tougher than it is. I hate lashing out at my family especially my two year old because I can't handle my own temper during this quit. I'm still quit. I'll never go back but I hate this part.
I know exactly what you mean. 4 and 1 for me and can’t stand myself sometimes. I know it will pass but it sure poses me off. Stay strong.
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God I hate nicotine. I hate Copenhagen. I hate that I thought I was ever tougher than it is. I hate lashing out at my family especially my two year old because I can't handle my own temper during this quit. I'm still quit. I'll never go back but I hate this part.
Keep at it brother, somewhere somebody smarter than me said “this too shall pass”. It was good to chat with you today, hit me up anytime.
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Thanks for the support guys. And I know it will pass eventually. Just so hard to upset the people that are trying to support you. Especially when my two year old came into my room, said sorry and asked if I was ready to come finish my dinner....
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The struggle is odaat, that's all. Some days will be good, some bad. Remember, this is a marathon and life will go on so we need to learn to cope with what life throws at us. You're doing great! IQWYT
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This too shall pass.
You’re creating a new normal and... that’s not normal. Nicotine fucked normal up and left it bleeding in the dirt.
Power through, man. This place is the right place to hunker down and get through this initial suck. Pretty soon... I can’t say when because it’s waaaaaay different for everyone... you’ll start getting glimpses of your new freedom. Then more. Then more. Before you know it, you’ll realize it’s been days/hours/weeks since you had a legit craving.
It gets better.
And it keeps getting better.
That’s no bullshit, man.
Freedom comes at a cost so pay the price right now AND the payoff is its evolution... it gets better with age.
Trust me.
2,137 days and I’m thankful and love it every damn day.
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One day at at time. One foot in front of the other. Everyday it gets better. As many have said I will have a string off great days then wake up one morning to a familiar foggy or anxious feeling. But it seems to pass a little faster than the last time.
Irritability seems to be getting better, or I'm getting better at controlling it.
37 days in and I realize what everyone means when they say you brain has to learn the new normal. Some days, some situations, hobbies, other habits (good or bad) all are "different" than they used to be.
Stressful situations are challenging to me. I used to handle stress well. Used to fight fire, rescue etc. I find myself having to work harder to stay calm, and also find myself having to think harder or focus more then in the past.
I want to say thank you to EVERYONE here. For the support, for sharing you quits, for sharing your experience. It means a lot. I know I'm not the most active member but I have reached out to a few as a needed, shared some digits, and am always here for anyone.
Side note* am I allowed to change the subject of my post? Seems kinda irrelevant at this point.
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I am damn proud of you and honored to be in the Masters of Mayhem with you. Every day seems to get better, yes we all have those bad days but we work though them.
Keep up the awesome work Brother. Proud to quit with you today and every damn day.
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One day at at time. One foot in front of the other. Everyday it gets better. As many have said I will have a string off great days then wake up one morning to a familiar foggy or anxious feeling. But it seems to pass a little faster than the last time.
Irritability seems to be getting better, or I'm getting better at controlling it.
37 days in and I realize what everyone means when they say you brain has to learn the new normal. Some days, some situations, hobbies, other habits (good or bad) all are "different" than they used to be.
Stressful situations are challenging to me. I used to handle stress well. Used to fight fire, rescue etc. I find myself having to work harder to stay calm, and also find myself having to think harder or focus more then in the past.
I want to say thank you to EVERYONE here. For the support, for sharing you quits, for sharing your experience. It means a lot. I know I'm not the most active member but I have reached out to a few as a needed, shared some digits, and am always here for anyone.
Side note* am I allowed to change the subject of my post? Seems kinda irrelevant at this point.
You can do whatever you want in your intro.
Your calmness will improve over time as well as your ability to focus and concentrate. You're doing great. Keep it up.
Proud to quit with you,
Chris
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Hey all who has tried Ashwagandha? I hate pills, especially when people say anti anxiety/depression. I'm looking for real life experience. I have heard it mentioned on this forum multiple times and encouraged.
This fog, dizzy, anxiety, distracted, tight chest that comes out of nowhere is really getting to me. I have never been this guy. I don't like it. It generally passes in 1-4 days.
The good days are great. These days are brutal. Had a two hour drive taking my two year old to the Dr for a check-up. I didn't even like driving the way I felt today.
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Hey all who has tried Ashwagandha? I hate pills, especially when people say anti anxiety/depression. I'm looking for real life experience. I have heard it mentioned on this forum multiple times and encouraged.
This fog, dizzy, anxiety, distracted, tight chest that comes out of nowhere is really getting to me. I have never been this guy. I don't like it. It generally passes in 1-4 days.
The good days are great. These days are brutal. Had a two hour drive taking my two year old to the Dr for a check-up. I didn't even like driving the way I felt today.
So—I haven’t tried it. But I have researched it a little. There are no proven uses for it. However, that isn’t to say it can’t have some benefit. One thing that is known about it is that it’s GRAS..acronym for Generally Regarded As Safe. In the healthcare world, that means it’s about as safe as possible, very few, if any, side effects. All that to say, it’s worth a shot. I haven’t had that severe of a feeling. But I have had some rough ones. The worst that can happen is you blow a few bucks on it for nothing. At best? You find something that helps you get through this part of it. You are continuing to power through it though...not caving....I am proud as hell of you. I am proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with my Mayhem brother. You have my digits...feel free ANYTIME, day or night, to holler when this is happening. Hang in there brother.
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Thanks for the reply brother! That day that prompted that post has past and that feeling has not been near as severe since. I still might give it a try.
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How are you holding up man? I see you posting in roll, I've been reading your intro.
If you need anything let me know...
We're quitting together brother.....
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Hey all who has tried Ashwagandha? I hate pills, especially when people say anti anxiety/depression. I'm looking for real life experience. I have heard it mentioned on this forum multiple times and encouraged.
This fog, dizzy, anxiety, distracted, tight chest that comes out of nowhere is really getting to me. I have never been this guy. I don't like it. It generally passes in 1-4 days.
The good days are great. These days are brutal. Had a two hour drive taking my two year old to the Dr for a check-up. I didn't even like driving the way I felt today.
So—I haven’t tried it. But I have researched it a little. There are no proven uses for it. However, that isn’t to say it can’t have some benefit. One thing that is known about it is that it’s GRAS..acronym for Generally Regarded As Safe. In the healthcare world, that means it’s about as safe as possible, very few, if any, side effects. All that to say, it’s worth a shot. I haven’t had that severe of a feeling. But I have had some rough ones. The worst that can happen is you blow a few bucks on it for nothing. At best? You find something that helps you get through this part of it. You are continuing to power through it though...not caving....I am proud as hell of you. I am proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with my Mayhem brother. You have my digits...feel free ANYTIME, day or night, to holler when this is happening. Hang in there brother.
Yeahhhh....i didn’t pay attention to the time lapse there.....but either way, I’ve got your back. Hit me up anytime you need.
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Thanks for the replys guys. All in all doing good. Everyday seems to get a little better, a little easier. All my friends chew and it doesn't seem to bother me anymore.
I did order some of the ashwagandha. I plan to try it for a bit and if I like it.
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Hey all, here to document as well as vent. Almost two weeks ago since my last post about the bad anxiety. Ashwagandha has not arrived yet but having another one of those brutal couple day spells.
What gets me the most is that I have just never been this way before. I have always been able to improve my mood, mind over matter was taught to me at a young age. It's frustrating, it's exhausting, it's actually embarrassing.
Is it all because I'm re wiring my brain? Is this really from nicotine? The brain is a powerful tool, I usually use it to my advantage. Now at times it's like I am fighting against my own brain.
I am setting a goal. Or a maybe milestone is a better word. At my 90 day mark I will be going back to talk to the Dr. I am tired of feeling like this. I'm tired of not being myself. These days make me think, was it nicotine that made me that happy care free person?
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This site is an amazing place.
Let me explain. It is full of brothers and sisters that share ATLEAST one thing in common. They want to quit nicotine, to be more specific they want to quit chewing. Something no one fully understands unless they have been though it. Hell I'm going through it and I don't even understand it lol. And among these people you connect with you get a group of folks that are open to complete strangers. Talk about things some cant/wont even share with their wives, friends, or family.
Then comes the most amazing part (to me atleast). I will go through phases where I am present here but not active. I post roll and move on with my day. Sometimes for a couple days maybe longer. I am still active with text and some PMs etc. Then one day you pop into the intros and see that your brothers are going through the exact same stuff that you have been thinking and not talking about. Hilltop and Mayflys powt about surviving the funk was perfect timing for me. Dela touching on being an addict I can 100% relate to. Gunner talking about feelin like hes just going though the motions of life and not really living. Its an instant sigh of relief for me and the reminder that I'm not alone, And more than anything THIS TOO SHALL PASS. I have come to realize that nicotine is FAR more powerful than I ever imagined.
I want to thank each and everyone of you that are here and battling with me. I want to throw out a special thanks to a few people that have had a major impact on my quit that may not even know how much they have helped me.
MAYFLY
HILLTOP
DAWGS
RICK JR.
GUNNER
CHRIS2ALASKA
DELAHUNT
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This site is an amazing place.
Let me explain. It is full of brothers and sisters that share ATLEAST one thing in common. They want to quit nicotine, to be more specific they want to quit chewing. Something no one fully understands unless they have been though it. Hell I'm going through it and I don't even understand it lol. And among these people you connect with you get a group of folks that are open to complete strangers. Talk about things some cant/wont even share with their wives, friends, or family.
Then comes the most amazing part (to me atleast). I will go through phases where I am present here but not active. I post roll and move on with my day. Sometimes for a couple days maybe longer. I am still active with text and some PMs etc. Then one day you pop into the intros and see that your brothers are going through the exact same stuff that you have been thinking and not talking about. Hilltop and Mayflys powt about surviving the funk was perfect timing for me. Dela touching on being an addict I can 100% relate to. Gunner talking about feelin like hes just going though the motions of life and not really living. Its an instant sigh of relief for me and the reminder that I'm not alone, And more than anything THIS TOO SHALL PASS. I have come to realize that nicotine is FAR more powerful than I ever imagined.
I want to thank each and everyone of you that are here and battling with me. I want to throw out a special thanks to a few people that have had a major impact on my quit that may not even know how much they have helped me.
MAYFLY
HILLTOP
DAWGS
RICK JR.
GUNNER
CHRIS2ALASKA
DELAHUNT
Right there with you Bro, it's been nice chatting with you and Dawgs today.
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Right on Ed! Things have definitely improved for me and I completely agree, it is comforting to see/know that we aren’t alone in what we are going through. Stay strong and feel free to reach out anytime, you’ve got my digits.....oh and if you happen to have any good spots to bow hunt out there in Idaho I’ll have to hit you up! ;D Just kidding.
Gunnar 67
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Depends what your hunting but I might have a couple.... Lol. Bear season opened yesterday!!!
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Depends what your hunting but I might have a couple.... Lol. Bear season opened yesterday!!!
My favorite is elk, but mule deer, speed goats, bear have all fallen victim. Bear is some of my favorite wild game, incredible backstraps.
Need to get a moose hunt in someday, but that’s getting tougher all the time.
And a spring spot and stalk bear hunt in the mountains would be a hell of an adventure.
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Feel free to call me anytime. I artchery elk hunt every year. I love it. Must agree bear is delicious! And one of my favorite animals to hunt.
Never hunted the mulies just cause I have not drawn the tag I want.
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Hey Badass! Just dropping in to say hi, Hope all is well! Proud to call you a Brother! Remember if you need anything, I'm here for ya! Keep up the Great work!
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Feel free to call me anytime. I artchery elk hunt every year. I love it. Must agree bear is delicious! And one of my favorite animals to hunt.
Never hunted the mulies just cause I have not drawn the tag I want.
Careful Ed I just may take you up on that! I drew a NM tag for the second straight year, which is just plain crazy so I’ll be making the long ass drive(26-28 hrs) from Minny again this fall. Absolutely stoked, and I’m going to be doing it nic free this year. Kind of scary but with all of you guys as supporters I know I’ll make it!
Gunnar 73