What's up fellas?

[Porter]

First of all I will be the first to say we are one of the world's most medicated nations and that's sad. I don't believe drugs should be the only/first alternative to quitting. I didn't mean to snub anyone on this topic. Here's my thought on it. I feel like I would be doing a disservice to everyone on this site without at least sharing different methods of helping people quit. From there, each person has to decide. Sure quitting cold turkey is the best way; but for some it doesn't shake the cravings. I always encourage complete abstinence from dip and nicotine. Also, I don't remember saying that it works 100% of the time or that you should take it; only to check it out because it's 100% nicotine free. I've never believed in the patch bullshit by fighting nicotine with nicotine.

One other thing about the suicide disclaimer - with these types of drugs, the suicide risk usually only affects teenagers through people in their early twenties and it's not a 100% risk either. As a matter of fact it's a very low risk. But because America is one of the most paranoid, we've-got-to-blame-someone nations, when someone does take their own life, and they happened to be taking medication, almost everyone concludes the drugs did it.

Lastly here's a great resource for quitters that is completely, 100%, medication free, and risk free - bibliotherapy. Get a copy of "Feeling Good" by Dr. David Burns or "The Feeling Good Handbook" by Dr. David Burns. That shouldn't get anyone's panties in a bunch. Now fellas, enjoy some boob shakin' fun 'boob'

Pyrovalin, There is no easy pill to this thing called nicotine addiction. I would not endorse exchanging one drug for another, you have one addiction licked, and begin a new one. Maybe cold turkey is not for everyone, but why wait. If you really want to quit, you will do it. Fuck, how much does that shit cost!! How 'bout those cute little nicorrettes you can get at wally's for $45.00+. What a waste of money for something that's still pumping that Nic-bitch into your blood stream. Where is your competiveness???? Fuck , this is for anyone considering an easy fix to a bitch of a problem as this chewing addiction. When you really decide to quit chewing, You will get your ass on this site, read it, and read it again , everything. Quit . One hour at a time. One day at a time. One week at time. and so on. Challenge yourself. You are a hell of lot tougher than you think you are. If your worried about the extra weight you will put on the next 2 months , so what , and who gives a shit!! You will lose it again about the 3 month mark, just get to the 3 month mark. What about sleepless night's the first 2 week's, soooo fucking what, it is only temporary. In closing , I am damn proud of my hardcore, badassin quit, made possible by my own determination, and support from my badass, hardcore quit buddies from this site. I would feel like a real pussy if I had to take an easy pill for any adversity. booya.

[GlennFtheKodiak]

I feel like I would be doing a disservice to everyone on this site without at least sharing different methods of helping people quit. From there, each person has to decide. Sure quitting cold turkey is the best way; but for some it doesn't shake the cravings. I always encourage complete abstinence from dip and nicotine.

Goddamn it, the more you open your mouth, the more you sound like a fucking salesman!!!

sounds like something else....

[jaydisco]

I feel like I would be doing a disservice to everyone on this site without at least sharing different methods of helping people quit. From there, each person has to decide. Sure quitting cold turkey is the best way; but for some it doesn't shake the cravings. I always encourage complete abstinence from dip and nicotine.

Goddamn it, the more you open your mouth, the more you sound like a fucking salesman!!!

[Pyrovalin]

First of all I will be the first to say we are one of the world's most medicated nations and that's sad. I don't believe drugs should be the only/first alternative to quitting. I didn't mean to snub anyone on this topic. Here's my thought on it. I feel like I would be doing a disservice to everyone on this site without at least sharing different methods of helping people quit. From there, each person has to decide. Sure quitting cold turkey is the best way; but for some it doesn't shake the cravings. I always encourage complete abstinence from dip and nicotine. Also, I don't remember saying that it works 100% of the time or that you should take it; only to check it out because it's 100% nicotine free. I've never believed in the patch bullshit by fighting nicotine with nicotine.

One other thing about the suicide disclaimer - with these types of drugs, the suicide risk usually only affects teenagers through people in their early twenties and it's not a 100% risk either. As a matter of fact it's a very low risk. But because America is one of the most paranoid, we've-got-to-blame-someone nations, when someone does take their own life, and they happened to be taking medication, almost everyone concludes the drugs did it.

Lastly here's a great resource for quitters that is completely, 100%, medication free, and risk free - bibliotherapy. Get a copy of "Feeling Good" by Dr. David Burns or "The Feeling Good Handbook" by Dr. David Burns. That shouldn't get anyone's panties in a bunch. Now fellas, enjoy some boob shakin' fun 'boob'

[GlennFtheKodiak]

Like tony montana in scarface said...

"...all I have in this world is my word and my balls..."

That's how to quit...

And I don't break them for anyone!

[bearattack]

Like tony montana in scarface said...

"...all I have in this world is my word and my balls..."

That's how to quit...

[LDIDDY]

I will apologize ahead of time to anyone who's already started a thread about this.

I was in a meeting with my therapist several weeks ago and she told me about a quit aid called Chantix. It's supposed to be very effective. Now I know the site says it's for smokers but dippers can use it too and it's nic free. In the past I've tried all forms of patches, etc., and they never worked for me. I haven't tried this but it sounds promising and the patients my therapist sees couldn't say enough about how effective it is.

In studies, 44% of CHANTIX users were quit during weeks 9 to 12 of treatment (compared to 18% on sugar pill). CHANTIX also helped reduce the urge...

Please go here if you're having a hard time staying quit.

http://www.chantix.com

Doesn't the FDA require disclaimers when you push your drugs?

Thought so.... especially when they are now suspected of inducing multiple suicides.

Suicide Warning Issued For Chantix  Zyban

[jaydisco]

I will apologize ahead of time to anyone who's already started a thread about this.

I was in a meeting with my therapist several weeks ago and she told me about a quit aid called Chantix. It's supposed to be very effective. Now I know the site says it's for smokers but dippers can use it too and it's nic free. In the past I've tried all forms of patches, etc., and they never worked for me. I haven't tried this but it sounds promising and the patients my therapist sees couldn't say enough about how effective it is.

In studies, 44% of CHANTIX users were quit during weeks 9 to 12 of treatment (compared to 18% on sugar pill). CHANTIX also helped reduce the urge...

Please go here if you're having a hard time staying quit.

http://www.chantix.com

Doesn't the FDA require disclaimers when you push your drugs?

[JpCrew]

In the past I've tried all forms of patches, etc., and they never worked for me.

Have you tried being a man, pulling yourself up by your boot straps and quitting?

Usually that works 99.9% of the time if you want to quit.

The other .01% are people that meet the above criteria, but want it, .01% less. But still stay quit anyway.

So based on my calculations, and I'm not a mathmatecian, that's means, 100% of the people that truly want to quit. Will. They just have to have the WILL part first.

You can do this without the support of aids... people here do it all the time.

[11X4]

I'm going to pile on here with my 2 cents too so take it for what it's worth. Go back and read what you wrote. "In the past I've tried..." "I haven't tried this but it sounds promising..." This is EXACTLY what Chewie is talking about. try this, try that. The reason that there were 56% and 88% failure rates respectively is because folks were just trying it out. I was a victim of my own mentality that way for a long time. Even at the beginning of this quit I was "giving it another shot". I was very lucky that I found a site that taught me up front that I have to draw a line in the sand and stick to it.

No matter if someone is going to use NRT, Chantix, the little red pill from the Matrix, or goes cold turkey. It all comes down to want and desire. Kind of like when you started dipping and had to fight through that feeling of holding down lunch. Unless you are prepared to do what is necessary, nothing will make a quit just happen.

Also, there have been some that have said that Chantix causes severe depression in some. So if anyone taking this starts to have bad feelings or dumbass thoughts about taking care of things, get your ass to your doctor.

Like Chewie mentioned, there are some that have had success by using Chantix and their quit is no less than anyone else's. I've said before and I'll say it again, whatever it takes to keep your body rid of nicotine.

[chewie]

The general consensus around here is this stuff isn't worth the trouble.

There are definitely some success stories out there (and here as well) but please don't paint the picture that this is the "magic pill" when it comes to quit success....

it's not.

chewie

[GlennFtheKodiak]

I will apologize ahead of time to anyone who's already started a thread about this.

I was in a meeting with my therapist several weeks ago and she told me about a quit aid called Chantix. It's supposed to be very effective. Now I know the site says it's for smokers but dippers can use it too and it's nic free. In the past I've tried all forms of patches, etc., and they never worked for me. I haven't tried this but it sounds promising and the patients my therapist sees couldn't say enough about how effective it is.

In studies, 44% of CHANTIX users were quit during weeks 9 to 12 of treatment (compared to 18% on sugar pill). CHANTIX also helped reduce the urge...

Please go here if you're having a hard time staying quit.

http://www.chantix.com

why use it if you are already quit? That shit will give u nightmares too. Sales for Pfizer have been disappointing.

[Pyrovalin]

I will apologize ahead of time to anyone who's already started a thread about this.

I was in a meeting with my therapist several weeks ago and she told me about a quit aid called Chantix. It's supposed to be very effective. Now I know the site says it's for smokers but dippers can use it too and it's nic free. In the past I've tried all forms of patches, etc., and they never worked for me. I haven't tried this but it sounds promising and the patients my therapist sees couldn't say enough about how effective it is.

In studies, 44% of CHANTIX users were quit during weeks 9 to 12 of treatment (compared to 18% on sugar pill). CHANTIX also helped reduce the urge...

Please go here if you're having a hard time staying quit.

http://www.chantix.com

[larrymc911]

Larry. I laid off the caffeine big time. I was only drinking a cup of coffee a day but I heard that shit can build up in your system.

By the way I feel fucking great. 5 days in a row. Thank you God!

...and FUCK YOU KODIAK!!!

Great !! Caffeine can be a killer just like Nicotine......Not sure how long it stays in your system though.

Glad you are feeling better.

[HuckleBuck357]

You know what is fucked up? I was a die hard Cope man and I had a cave dream about cherry fucking skoal. Never tried it before. Go figure! 'na na'