Today's The Day

[Leahy16]

Well, what was the verdict? On your client facing life? Did he walk or is he doin' time???

[SirDerek]

I appreciate the encouragement.  I'm starting to see a pattern as was pointed out.  Everytime I get stressed at work I want to put one in.  I see the obvious error of that thinking but it appears it's something I'm going to have to be on guard for.  Thanks y'all.

Stop believing that chew is your courage and helps you deal with stress, it does not fill the void, it creates it. Non nic users do not feel this way. Nic is a powerful posion that over time destroys your nerves. One of the greatest benefits of kicking nicotine is the return of your confidence and self assurance. Just have to give it time and stick with it. I know that sounds easier said then done but its the truth. You can do this and we are all here to help you do it!!!

I have to agree with Diesel there as to a return of feeling strong for yourself as just had a nice situation the other day that I posted in my intro.

Therefore it my have been a pattern, but that pattern has been cut, ripped, torn, burned never to be used again. The mold is broken and you are forming a new one with your quit

stay strong

[Diesel2112]

I appreciate the encouragement. I'm starting to see a pattern as was pointed out. Everytime I get stressed at work I want to put one in. I see the obvious error of that thinking but it appears it's something I'm going to have to be on guard for. Thanks y'all.

Stop believing that chew is your courage and helps you deal with stress, it does not fill the void, it creates it. Non nic users do not feel this way. Nic is a powerful posion that over time destroys your nerves. One of the greatest benefits of kicking nicotine is the return of your confidence and self assurance. Just have to give it time and stick with it. I know that sounds easier said then done but its the truth. You can do this and we are all here to help you do it!!!

[eric71]

I appreciate the encouragement. I'm starting to see a pattern as was pointed out. Everytime I get stressed at work I want to put one in. I see the obvious error of that thinking but it appears it's something I'm going to have to be on guard for. Thanks y'all.

Do some reading and learn to control the impulsive nature of your brain. You had it wired that when stress occurred it triggered a reaction to grab a chew. This has to be re-learned by your brain. Instead of reacting to stress in a hurtful way (dip), you need to train your brain to react in a positive manner. You don't keep your hand on an open flame, you do something positive to relieve the stress of a burn. So you must do with this as well.

[greg2011]

I appreciate the encouragement. I'm starting to see a pattern as was pointed out. Everytime I get stressed at work I want to put one in. I see the obvious error of that thinking but it appears it's something I'm going to have to be on guard for. Thanks y'all.

[dchogs]

Today is very difficult.  I am having a very difficult time and can feel the urge in my brain and face and lips.  I went in to work for five hours and had some bullshit to deal with.  More bullshit came up and just wanted my can to be in that drawer.  Just wanted to put music on, put my fucking bare feet on the desk, put a dip in, and tell every client and supervisor in a fifty mile radius to kick rocks and suck cocks.  I swear it feels like second dayagain.  WTF?  I remember this getting easier!

Dude. Eat a dick. You do NOT want a dip. You want assholes to NOT be assholes.

Dip fixes...NOTHING

You will never regret Quitting. You will ALWAYS regret caving.

Don't be a pussy.

Do that, and you'll be dealing with those motherfuckers in the morning, and you will not be quit.

My wife and kids were going out shopping yesterday with me home alone with college football. I got that familiar tingle of being able to dip wide open. At 489 days. Shit happens, and you need to be strong.

You cave once, it can be a mistake; do it twice, and it is a pattern.

You know better. Suck it up. Be a man. Stay quit.

[Nolaq]

Today is very difficult. I am having a very difficult time and can feel the urge in my brain and face and lips. I went in to work for five hours and had some bullshit to deal with. More bullshit came up and just wanted my can to be in that drawer. Just wanted to put music on, put my fucking bare feet on the desk, put a dip in, and tell every client and supervisor in a fifty mile radius to kick rocks and suck cocks. I swear it feels like second dayagain. WTF? I remember this getting easier!

Dude. Eat a dick. You do NOT want a dip. You want assholes to NOT be assholes.

Dip fixes...NOTHING

You will never regret Quitting. You will ALWAYS regret caving.

Don't be a pussy.

[greg2011]

Today is very difficult. I am having a very difficult time and can feel the urge in my brain and face and lips. I went in to work for five hours and had some bullshit to deal with. More bullshit came up and just wanted my can to be in that drawer. Just wanted to put music on, put my fucking bare feet on the desk, put a dip in, and tell every client and supervisor in a fifty mile radius to kick rocks and suck cocks. I swear it feels like second dayagain. WTF? I remember this getting easier!

[eric71]

I don't think you have this.

You know why?

Because I don't have this.  It's why i've come here everyday for the last 435 days.  When left to our own devices, we will fail.  I had a comma once and I didn't know it.

This happened because you are an addict that still thinks he "has this". 

In order to be quit, you have to want this more than anything else in your life.  You need to remember what you are in times of good and bad, and you need to embrace it. 

Want this.  Own this.

This happened because you are an addict that still thinks he "has this".

This is why I'm back. I'm not trying to sound casual, because I'm miserable right now. My head's on fire, I've got the fog as bad as ever and that's not a good thing for me to have at work. I just know that I can get through this really shit part, because I've done it before (with the support here). I got feeling good after a miserable couple of weeks and stopped thinking I need the daily accountability. Nearly a year later I think I'm fine to handle a couple and I'm not. I can't tolerate any level of tobacco usage or I'm going to be back hooked immediately.

Anyway, people can be pissed if they want, but I'm only here when I'm serious. I didn't make excuses last time and kept my word while I was here. And when I screwed up, I stayed away.

So....you don't plan on staying here full time? You have times when you AREN'T serious about quitting? If you aren't planning on sticking around and posting roll everyday, stop wasting our time and go litigate somewhere else.

Proof is in the pudding. How many times does it have to be laid out here, there is no just one, not for an addict.

None is the key to the life you desire. One is the key to addiction and death. Don't tempt it. Sorry, I just don't get retread talk when they make no concerted effort to do above and beyond what they attempted to do before.

[jrws]

Thought Ianswered all three but here it is.  I failed because in a moment of stress I decided on the easy path, rationalizing that it had been so long that a few wouldn't matter, rather than checking in here.  The how it happened is clear.  The plan going forward is to check in here more than ladt time and for longer rather than spacing when the quit got easy.

Yes, this is a succinct answer that avoids telling the reader very much, and allows them to infer what they might want to or need to from it.

I expect, for myself at least, some particulars here, especially about the new quit plan. I am not sure what your quit plan was the last time, so comparing your new one to it isn't very useful to me, but in any case I know it did not work for you, so maybe you can just explain the details of a new one.

"The plan going forward is to check in here more than ladt time and for longer rather than spacing when the quit got easy."

That could mean you are going to post roll every morning, putting your quit first a day at a time, every day. If that is the case, you might keep that promise throughout the day, and you might understand what kind of loss it is if you do not.

It might also mean you have this KTC thing going on, and you feel you can post on it when it is convenient for you. Maybe that makes you feel better: you are doing something about tobacco addiction.

Trouble is, doing something might not be a thing that works. It might even be in the way of doing something that does work, for a lot of people. That something, is pretty much laid out in each of these 7 threads.

The last part is kinda strange - "...more often and longer"? The periodicity that seems to work is pretty constant: daily. The duration is not fixed, but most people go for a minimum of 100 consecutive days. Sorry if my brain is spongy, but can clear up what you meant?

Sorry if I am coming across as a hardass, I just want to see you do what you said today you wanted to do, and if there is a kinder gentler way you have discovered, I would like to learn that myself.

[Wedge]

I don't think you have this.

You know why?

Because I don't have this.  It's why i've come here everyday for the last 435 days.  When left to our own devices, we will fail.  I had a comma once and I didn't know it.

This happened because you are an addict that still thinks he "has this". 

In order to be quit, you have to want this more than anything else in your life.  You need to remember what you are in times of good and bad, and you need to embrace it. 

Want this.  Own this.

This happened because you are an addict that still thinks he "has this".

This is why I'm back. I'm not trying to sound casual, because I'm miserable right now. My head's on fire, I've got the fog as bad as ever and that's not a good thing for me to have at work. I just know that I can get through this really shit part, because I've done it before (with the support here). I got feeling good after a miserable couple of weeks and stopped thinking I need the daily accountability. Nearly a year later I think I'm fine to handle a couple and I'm not. I can't tolerate any level of tobacco usage or I'm going to be back hooked immediately.

Anyway, people can be pissed if they want, but I'm only here when I'm serious. I didn't make excuses last time and kept my word while I was here. And when I screwed up, I stayed away.

So....you don't plan on staying here full time? You have times when you AREN'T serious about quitting? If you aren't planning on sticking around and posting roll everyday, stop wasting our time and go litigate somewhere else.

[greg2011]

I don't think you have this.

You know why?

Because I don't have this. It's why i've come here everyday for the last 435 days. When left to our own devices, we will fail. I had a comma once and I didn't know it.

This happened because you are an addict that still thinks he "has this".

In order to be quit, you have to want this more than anything else in your life. You need to remember what you are in times of good and bad, and you need to embrace it.

Want this. Own this.

This happened because you are an addict that still thinks he "has this".

This is why I'm back. I'm not trying to sound casual, because I'm miserable right now. My head's on fire, I've got the fog as bad as ever and that's not a good thing for me to have at work. I just know that I can get through this really shit part, because I've done it before (with the support here). I got feeling good after a miserable couple of weeks and stopped thinking I need the daily accountability. Nearly a year later I think I'm fine to handle a couple and I'm not. I can't tolerate any level of tobacco usage or I'm going to be back hooked immediately.

Anyway, people can be pissed if they want, but I'm only here when I'm serious. I didn't make excuses last time and kept my word while I was here. And when I screwed up, I stayed away.

[wastepanel]

I don't think you have this.

You know why?

Because I don't have this. It's why i've come here everyday for the last 435 days. When left to our own devices, we will fail. I had a comma once and I didn't know it.

This happened because you are an addict that still thinks he "has this".

In order to be quit, you have to want this more than anything else in your life. You need to remember what you are in times of good and bad, and you need to embrace it.

Want this. Own this.

[Bean]

There is no justification for caving...none. Greg knows that. The important thing is that he is back here posting roll. I'm not apologizing for him...he was an arrogant dumbass for not posting roll and thinking that he could go it alone. But Greg knows that, too.

I'm not saying to take it light on him. But, in my opnion, he gave us his justification/excuse. Excuses are like assholes...everyone's got one and they all stink. No bones about it...he failed. He knows it. Maybe he'll buy into the whole program this time instead of foolishly thinking that he can be a checker-inner and not have to post roll each day. Maybe he learned from this? If he didn't, he can go finger-fuck himself in the mouth. But now it is time for him to become a daily roll poster and take this shit a little more seriously. I think we can help him do that if he meets us half way and posts roll every day.

[Deleted User (sccrockett)]

Thought Ianswered all three but here it is. I failed because in a moment of stress I decided on the easy path, rationalizing that it had been so long that a few wouldn't matter, rather than checking in here. The how it happened is clear. The plan going forward is to check in here more than ladt time and for longer rather than spacing when the quit got easy.

How about posting roll and promising everyday instead of "checking in" every now and then to let us know how good you've been doing on your own? Maybe some accountability thrown in there? Just a thought. Because I really don't give a shit about people that "check in."