Ok so I'm way new here, but maybe an outside perspective will focus this. I see a lot of people posting like "they need the site to quit," " none of us could quit without the site" almost like replacing the dip habit with a website habit. I would say it's fine to use the site for support, but please don't become dependent on it....that's just trading one crutch for another.
...or then again maybe I'm way off base. Either way too much stress for people in the middle of quits
That said, the resources here are great, and should be used to aid in the quit process.
You are way off base, and back in the day a bad ass quitter like Srans would have told you so........
Thumble, aren't YOU supposed to be a bad ass? And the best you have is, "Srans might have been able to do it if he wasn't too busy getting fingered by Marty Barrington?" If you think ILQuitter is off base, tell him why, or SDFU and go cry alone in the dark because srans left a skid mark when he mentored you then he left you behind.
ILquitter, welcome. In the long game ktc is the path to far less stress. Many come here to get their rage and frustrations out so it doesn't come out toward their loved ones (myself included). If you think dependence on ktc is a problem compared to dependence on nicotine, you are a fucking idiot. Try committing fully to your quit group and the methods for a while. See what it does for your life before you try to analyze it because this is not an analytical exercise, it's a fucking real life quit.
Fair point NMCB. I'll try and answer that question.
ILQuitter - you are off base because you still think of dip as a bad habit, which is what years and years of big tobacco marketing has convinced the general public to believe. In fact, it is a nicotine addiction. Addiction is not something that just goes away...you keep it for life. Science has shown that just one dose of (drugs, alcohol, nicotine, etc) even after years and years, reverts the brain chemistry to the exact state it was in when it was in maximum use.
We post every day, and stay active on this site, because we know that this is something that just doesn't go away. We have seen really great quitters come back after years of quit, only to post a day 1 again. We know that our best chance of being free from the bonds of that evil nic bitch, is to fully and firmly grab a hold of the mindset of hating nicotine, realizing it is a poison and that just one is all it takes to do us in.
There are countless stories of fear of the diagnosis. We have people in here that are going through cancer diagnosis in fact. The addict mindset wants to continue to put the belief in us that its really no big deal, its not as bad as X, and any other excuse you want to use. The reality is that it is a very toxic poison that completely alters your brain chemistry and is known to increase your chance of certain cancers.
Brotherhood and Accountability are the keys to staying quit. We find this place to be our best chance of success. So it's not just "trading one bad habit for another", it's realizing you have a really bad disease that will kill you and doesn't go away but it's antidote is a daily dose of brotherhood and accountability.
I also just have my own history to look back at. 28 years of trying to "stop a bad habit" by myself or with the support of my family and friends that never lasted longer than 3 weeks and 256 days of quitting. I'll go with the method I know keeps me quit.
